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corestwo
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Posted - 2012.08.03 18:16:00 -
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Don't forget that you also adjusted their mineral requirements. At least if info from SiSi is any indication. 
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corestwo
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Posted - 2012.08.03 18:37:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:good work but could u at least increae the cargo hold in the hulk for the following reason . Hulks are designed by this for group op as such will chew through at least 3 types of diffrent ore so u want to be able to switch crystal sets for that . SO A hulk should be able to hold 12 crystals or 4 sets of crystals for these ops
As they're designed for group ops, group members - such as orcas or rorquals - will be able to carry the spare crystals for them.
Not to, you know, use your own argument against you or anything. 
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corestwo
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Posted - 2012.08.03 20:13:00 -
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Sho Menao wrote:Am I the only one noticing a 15% reduction in max ore and merc mining and a 20% reduction in max ice mining from current absolute maximums. Mining buff is actually a stealth nerf. \o/
Ore yield is unchanged, you're smoking something nasty. Likewise, ice yield (assuming orca bonuses because who the heck mines ice in nullsec) seems to be unchanged as well.
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corestwo
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Posted - 2012.08.03 20:22:00 -
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Jita Bloodtear wrote:How did you calculate ice yields, because as far as I can tell, your numbers are very off
Unless I did my math wrong 73 blocks/hr (on the hulk) is in line with what a perfect mackinaw with a perfect orca booster will get right now.
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corestwo
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Posted - 2012.08.03 20:28:00 -
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Jita Bloodtear wrote:corestwo wrote:Jita Bloodtear wrote:How did you calculate ice yields, because as far as I can tell, your numbers are very off Unless I did my math wrong 73 blocks/hr (on the hulk) is in line with what a perfect mackinaw with a perfect orca booster will get right now. See above real fast, I just wrote a post real fast to get a place holder, then edited it in with more detailed information. My information is pulled from direct dealings off the test server, using rorqual boosts with mindlink, perfect miners, max yield fit, perfect implants. Orca boosts != max boosts. But that might help to explain things.
Orca boosts don't equal max boosts yes, but the ore yield does line up assuming rorqual boosts, and orca boost are a reasonable assumption for ice considering that the overwhelming majority of ice mining occurs in highsec.
If you want to feel superior because you caught ccp out on a little mistake, be my guest, but their numbers are accurate for a reasonable set of assumptions.
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corestwo
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Posted - 2012.08.03 20:33:00 -
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My "math" is looking at a maxed out rorqual boosted Hulk in EFT and seeing that it gets 2857m3/minute in yield. 2857m3 x 60 minutes is 171,420m3 per hour, which means 1,171,420 units of veld per hour, which is in line with what the blog says after accounting for the fact that I didn't bother to plug implants into the miner profile in EFT.
So, assuming the information posted in the blog here is accurate, things don't change. If sisi has different information, that's another matter.
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corestwo
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Posted - 2012.08.03 22:19:00 -
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Jita Bloodtear wrote:corestwo wrote:
If you want to feel superior because you caught ccp out on a little mistake, be my guest, but their numbers are accurate for a reasonable set of assumptions.
lol wow, why are you so bitter towards me? I don't think this is the first time you've insulted me. Reasonable set of assumptions are that max mining yield based on perfect conditions = max mining yield based on perfect conditions. I was attempting to clarify misinformation which would have a massive impact on nullsec ice miners.
there are about three nullsec ice miners outside IRC so orca bonuses for "max ice yield" is a perfectly reasonable assumption.
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corestwo
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Posted - 2012.08.03 23:29:00 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:Hmm... if GoonSwarm members are in favor of these changes, there has to be something fundamentally wrong.
For some odd reason, I just can't buy into the idea that the instigators of the Gallente Ice Interdiction and co-sponsors of Hulkageddon would be supporting any sort of buff to miners, unless it makes them better targets for high-sec ganking.
And, ofc, you always have to question corestwo's interest in these changes - there must be an opportunity to rake in a substantial amount of ISK hidden in here somewhere. Manipulating market speculation on Skiffs, perhaps? :)
Much like goons were able to acknowledge that Tech really was over the top and needed the nerf (although CCP's nerf is a bit extreme), hulks and other miners really were too squishy, and I/we support these changes because it leaves hulks beefier, but not by too much as was the case with CCP's first pass.
And as to the hidden opportunity, yes it exists, unless the material changes on sisi are a total fakeout.
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corestwo
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:32:00 -
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Denidil wrote:corestwo wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:Hmm... if GoonSwarm members are in favor of these changes, there has to be something fundamentally wrong.
For some odd reason, I just can't buy into the idea that the instigators of the Gallente Ice Interdiction and co-sponsors of Hulkageddon would be supporting any sort of buff to miners, unless it makes them better targets for high-sec ganking.
And, ofc, you always have to question corestwo's interest in these changes - there must be an opportunity to rake in a substantial amount of ISK hidden in here somewhere. Manipulating market speculation on Skiffs, perhaps? :) Much like goons were able to acknowledge that Tech really was over the top and needed the nerf (although CCP's nerf is a bit extreme), we're able (though perhaps not quite as willing) to admit that hulks and other miners really were too squishy. I/we support these changes because it leaves hulks beefier, but not by too much, as was the case with CCP's first pass. And as to the hidden opportunity, yes it exists, unless the material changes on sisi are a total fakeout. building now then refining after patch isn't going to net you minerals btw.. they added the new minerals as "extra items" which don't reprocess back out.
well **** I just lost a lot of isk then.
Or maybe it doesn't matter because increased mineral prices still mean that I'll be able to sell the things at the significantly higher post-patch going rate. 
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