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Apo Lyptica
nul-li-fy Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:29:00 -
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I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-
Compounding capacitor use per cycle.
Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use
Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.
Sound good? |

Cloe Mitchell
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:31:00 -
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Another thread about AFK cloakers? Isn't this the billionth thread about this? Deal with it, you risk averse nancy. |

Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University Minmatar Republic
125
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:31:00 -
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New and exciting.
HTFU. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
590
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:32:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-
Compounding capacitor use per cycle.
Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use
Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.
Sound good?
No, they're not, and no it doesn't.
Contract your stuff and/or ISK to me, un-install the client, and go pay-to-win in Black Prophecy or LotRO, it's clearly more your speed.
0.0000...05/10.
Next!
Meta-gaming for carebears:
Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. |

Apo Lyptica
nul-li-fy Against ALL Anomalies
5
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:34:00 -
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Lol, at this time I'm the one who's cloaked. I'm staring at my capacitor recharging and thought to myself why can I set here and do this with out penalty. |

Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
268
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:36:00 -
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Perhaps start a new alt, go run missions in jita. You'll get used to seeing neutrals in local. You'll get used to how to deal when people you don't know are even trying to, probe you down and warp to you. You'll realize the people you never see, and never interact with you, really don't change your play one little bit.
edit: OP feels stupid for posting, then claims to be the afk cloaker wanting to be self-nerfed. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
641
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:38:00 -
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You don't apostrophise when you pluralise. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University Minmatar Republic
125
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:39:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:Lol, at this time I'm the one who's cloaked. I'm staring at my capacitor recharging and thought to myself why can I set here and do this with out penalty.
Your in a wormhole alliance. |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
415
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:39:00 -
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If you have a problem with afk cloakers.
Just minimize local, then you won't have to be scared of someone who is not at there computer.
Easily fixed Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:43:00 -
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AFK Cloaking is great, it's the only mechanic in the game that makes PVE possible in hostile space without spending hours warping from safespot to safespot to save ship. Meaning we still have ninja-explorers / ninja-ratters and wormhole ninjas in the game.
Keep it, just as it is. |

Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
75
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:44:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-
Compounding capacitor use per cycle.
Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use
Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.
Sound good?
No, we most certainly not all agree that AFK cloakers are a problem.
AFK cloakers cant do **** to you, they can't even actively report intel on you.
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
365
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:45:00 -
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Cloaks are working as intended. Move on and find something else to do. |

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
387
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:48:00 -
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Meanwhile, there's this little known button says directional scan. "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |

Garreth Vlox
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
34
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:54:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-
Compounding capacitor use per cycle.
Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use
Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.
Sound good?
no bad example no and your an idiot.
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Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
428
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:56:00 -
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get. the. fk. over. it.
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AFK Cloaker
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2012.08.04 00:56:00 -
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. |

Chatte Noire
PepperPark Deep Space Operations
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:02:00 -
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As a pubbie, I have to ask: is this fuzz about afk-cloakers just about seeing a non-blue name in local and fearing that every second, this cloaker could come back to the keyboard and stalk you? Honest question. |

Shizuken
Venerated Stars
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:05:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-
Compounding capacitor use per cycle.
Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use
Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.
Sound good?
How about something easier and less detrimental to regular cloak users? Add a tachyon probe for probe launchers that lets you scan down cloaked ships. Long scan time and low signature strength so people on the move are fine, but those at rest for long periods are sitting ducks...
/solveproblem /stopwhine |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:09:00 -
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That reminds, my AFK cloaking alt is almost done training.
Which system needs additional surveillance? ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1557
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:16:00 -
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what system are you getting afk cloaked in?
i will go take care of the afk cloakers by counter-afk cloaking them EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:17:00 -
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Shizuken wrote: How about something easier and kess detrimental to regular cloak users? Add a tachyon probe for probe launchers that lets you scan down cloaked ships. Long scan time and low signature strength so people on the move are fine, but those at rest for long periods are sitting ducks...
/solveproblem /stopwhine
Nah, what the heck is the problem with letting people operate solo in 0.0? Because this is basically what the cloak lets you do, and it's the only kind of defense, other then spending hours jumping from safespot to safespot, that lets you do this.
If you remove cloaking, 0.0 becomes nothing but a pure bruteforce arena. If you get a solo explorer in one of your systems you just grab 15-20 guys, set up gatecamps at all gates, Tachyon probe him down and kill him. And the only alternative left for him is to log off and pray he doesn't get killed before his minute is over.
I mean, the 15-20 guys rushing in to hunt down a lone explorer is the damn reason people feel forced to fit cloaks right now. And dealing with a lone cloaker is ******* easy already.
1. Stop soloing, make a 3 man ratting group where one person fits tackle, rat in 2-3 systems instead of sticking to a single one. 2. If you wanna do complexes, do it with a 5 man group and have at least on Logi with you. 3. If you wanna kill him, try bait him in with an "easy" kill.
I mean if you can instant-field a 15 man group to hunt down a single cloaker for 3 ******* hours, you could actually take that same group and do some PVE while waiting. It's not rocket science. |

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
389
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:17:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:That reminds, my AFK cloaking alt is almost done training.
Which system needs additional surveillance?
Renters... renters are the best. They dock up and stop ratting. And when the rent bill is coming up, they can't pay and produce tears. "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
389
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:20:00 -
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Also, don't forget the usefulness of the False Flag AFK Cloaker. Alliance mates ratting too much? Messing up your chains? Bring the neutral AFK Cloaker alt.
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |

Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:25:00 -
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Another thread will fix it! |

Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:32:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:Also, don't forget the usefulness of the False Flag AFK Cloaker. Alliance mates ratting too much? Messing up your chains? Bring the neutral AFK Cloaker alt.
I like the way you think, it is suitably twisted and devious, have you considered politics?  War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |

Maddie Gunslinger
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:33:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-
Compounding capacitor use per cycle.
Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use
Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.
Sound good?
Who are "we"?
Why is this a problem? And why is that a problem?
I think we pretty much agree that this thread is a problem, and it should only be allowed to exist for 1.5 hours. What? No... |

Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
400
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:36:00 -
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Zomg, must be a day ending in a Y
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |

Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
390
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:42:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Shameless Avenger wrote:Also, don't forget the usefulness of the False Flag AFK Cloaker. Alliance mates ratting too much? Messing up your chains? Bring the neutral AFK Cloaker alt.
I like the way you think, it is suitably twisted and devious, have you considered politics? 
Thanks you sir... I'll have to give credit to my 3 ex wives and their divorce lawyers.
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |

Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:43:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote: Thanks you sir... I'll have to give credit to my 3 ex wives and their divorce lawyers.
Yeh, I'd post and say I like it myself but that could ruin the tactic for later. So left it with the Like button. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1237
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Posted - 2012.08.04 01:49:00 -
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Shameless Avenger wrote:Sentamon wrote:That reminds, my AFK cloaking alt is almost done training.
Which system needs additional surveillance? Renters... renters are the best. They dock up and stop ratting. And when the rent bill is coming up, they can't pay and produce tears. I wanted to camp the renters, but was too busy bombing people.
Then TEST said to leave the south alone...
And then I was the ratter seeing afk campers in local. Opps. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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