on the other hand, nobody will bother actually living in nullsec except to join fleets because having to spam dscan for utterly useless information is tedious and not worth the 10% extra income you'd get over simply farming l4s in hisec where all risk of nonconsensual PvP is being gradually reduced to nothing

I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-

Compounding capacitor use per cycle.

Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use

Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.

Sound good?

I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem.

I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem.

I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem.

AFK Cloaking is great, it's the only mechanic in the game that makes PVE possible in hostile space without spending hours warping from safespot to safespot to save ship. Meaning we still have ninja-explorers / ninja-ratters and wormhole ninjas in the game.

Keep it, just as it is.

I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-

Compounding capacitor use per cycle.

Example- 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450 cap use

Now you ask what about ships who are supposed to use cloaks? Add in a bonus, either flat or per t2 skill. But at the same time, balance it out so a ship that is SUPPOSED to cloak can do so for about an 1.5 hours with out specialized fitting.

Sound good?

I'm tired of this guy AFK camping my mining/ratting/plexing etc. system so I will rally some hate for cloaking and get it nerfed.

There I fixed it for you.

I think the best fix for this as it would prevent people from being afraid of people who are not even at their computer is

When you cloak you no longer appear on local.
This way cloak actually makes you cloaked and we don't have to listen to people whine about afk cloakers.
Problem solved.

Oh, and regarding the short minded comment before, that users should try different systems. Any major alliance has enough active accounts, to dedicate 8 days to create a cloaky alt. You just take to the desired system, and every time you are not playing, you log on and stay there cloaked ******* up everyone else's game. Really smart and fun thing to do... You should really be in the game industry, since you have so many great ideas on how to make games fun.

Any AFK activity should be fought. AFK mining. AFK ratting, AFK plexing, AFK cloaking.
Need to go AFK? dock, go to a POS, or log off. otherwise you should be ******.

I guess I am a minority to say that there isn't a problem with afk cloakers, just a problem with people being paranoid about what they see in local.

The whole idea of AFK cloaking, is the risk of a hotdrop when they get you. Thats the whole point of it. If you ignore the AFK cloaker, he can and likely will **** you up.


dissapearing from local when you cloak when you are not on the computer ... interesting idea. HEY i think its already in the game, its called logging off.

Its lame how most people here arguew in favor of AFK cloaking, but mostly talk just about cloaking, not AFK.
one thing is to be cloaked while playing, thats cool. another thing is to cloak and go see a movie, do your laundry, etc while you generate a false warning reaction from people on the system.

Oh, and regarding the short minded comment before, that users should try different systems. Any major alliance has enough active accounts, to dedicate 8 days to create a cloaky alt. You just take to the desired system, and every time you are not playing, you log on and stay there cloaked ******* up everyone else's game. Really smart and fun thing to do... You should really be in the game industry, since you have so many great ideas on how to make games fun.

Any AFK activity should be fought. AFK mining. AFK ratting, AFK plexing, AFK cloaking.
Need to go AFK? dock, go to a POS, or log off. otherwise you should be ******.

Then nerf Tech so that Goons have to earn their ships just like the rest of us.

But they do earn their ships. They didn't just press butan one day and spawn ten billion tech moons in their space- they took every single one of those moons by force from somebody else. And while they did, shouting all the time about OH GOD WE'RE TAKING ALL THE TECH WOLOLOL and being very loud about what they were doing, people like you stood back and did absolutely nothing. And like the countless thousands before you, not being able to muster up any support in-game you have brought your bitter fight to these illustrious forums instead. (Read: you have once again decided to do nothing about it)

"I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem"

define "WE".

I don't even understand all the butthurt about afk cloakers. Is it solely because there's someone in local they can't find?
If so, that's pitiful.

I'm tired of this guy AFK camping my mining/ratting/plexing etc. system so I will rally some hate for cloaking and get it nerfed.

There I fixed it for you.

Any AFK activity should be fought. AFK mining. AFK ratting, AFK plexing, AFK cloaking.
Need to go AFK? dock, go to a POS, or log off. otherwise you should be ******.

Another thread about AFK cloakers? Isn't this the billionth thread about this? Deal with it, you risk averse nancy.