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Osabojo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
179
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:51:00 -
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You know, sometimes I just have to go to the bathroom. And maybe I'm going to be in there a while. I'd like to cloak my ship while I do that. Is that okay with you people??
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
170
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:06:00 -
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Pinky Denmark wrote:As mentioned afk cloakers are never 100% always afk. but even while afk they ARE being rewarded: - People might stay docked due to fear - the afk cloaker are denying income to the enemy = reward
OR they can leave the system and rat "natural anoms and plex (or mine, whatever) like I do, denying the enemy the "reward" of my lost income.
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People get frustrated and give the cloaker an edge if he starts looking for kills. Easier kills = reward
Hard to get frustrated when I'm winning, which is what I'm doing when I leave system and keep the isk train running.
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Have the enemy waste time trying to counter you while virtually 100% safe wears down the enemy = reward
The only thing that weighs me down is all the isk in my pockets, 25 to 35 mil isk per tick tend to do that.
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Patience is a huge factor in Eve but an afk cloaker doesn't have a time factor against him like people being cut off from activity. Yes the afk cloaker might not get isk and kills while actually afk, but the more he is afk the easier it is when he is actively chasing targets...
Pinky
I just find this kind of defeatist/entitled thinking to be so sad. My corp has an upgraded -0.81 system, its great, i love it, it has a station. It gets camped, I take my 2 ratting toons refit at pos or in station and leave to empty systems my alliance hasn't rented out, no biggy.
I could stay in my ratting system, fit cyno to my ship and have my boys on alert for the fun to pop off, and I've done that, but it's easier to just leave and allow the "afk cloaker" to spend part of his $15 a month claoked in a no empty system while i keep having fun. If he's awake and follows me, all good, its a chance to pop him at a gate (and my mates can go back to ratting/mining).
It's so easy it just takes a SMALL amount of effort (lol, jumping through a gate lol, some effort) and yet renter after renter (it's always you rent-bears) complains about afk cloakers.....
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NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
6
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Posted - 2012.08.23 20:30:00 -
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Fun thing to fix local and afk cloaking.
Cloaking kickbans you from all chats for duration of cloak+some time modifiable by skill.
Oh and disable their ability to use probes as well(I think this still exists)
Meanwhile I will be making all the rats scurry in low with my fearsome Imicus of Trolling and its Sister's Combat probes of failed spot checks.
Also why are there so many cynos being lit in Caldari lowsec?
Seems like every system has one. |
Ivy Wolf
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
0
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Posted - 2012.08.23 21:00:00 -
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Hello gentlemen, I'm a first class AFK cloaker please check my bio for credentials.
I'm taking notes here on the whiny crybabies and soon you'll get to see me on your systems for days on end.
Ta-ta |
Jett0
Surface Warfare
Tribal Band
241
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Posted - 2012.08.24 01:29:00 -
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Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Occasionally plays sober |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1285
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Posted - 2012.08.24 01:34:00 -
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Jett0 wrote:Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
We could spam "local" more efficiently. Aww yeah, let's do it ~
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Jett0
Surface Warfare
Tribal Band
241
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Posted - 2012.08.24 02:02:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Jett0 wrote:Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.
HAHAHAHAHAHA We could spam "local" more efficiently. Aww yeah, let's do it ~
I like where your head's at.
And you can AFK multiple systems at a time. But no one would know whether to pay attention or not...
Occasionally plays sober |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1286
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Posted - 2012.08.24 02:09:00 -
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Jett0 wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Jett0 wrote:Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.
HAHAHAHAHAHA We could spam "local" more efficiently. Aww yeah, let's do it ~ I like where your head's at. And you can AFK multiple systems at a time. But no one would know whether to pay attention or not...
Yeah, I could actually do some camping or maybe covert hotdropping, yay ( ^___^ )/
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Lugia3
Shydow Imperium
26
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:19:00 -
[279] - Quote
No.
Will sell wallet space for ISK. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
54
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:34:00 -
[280] - Quote
Jett0 wrote:Replace Local with Constellation chat in null.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Best. Chat. Ever.
Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
144
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Posted - 2012.08.25 19:12:00 -
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Osabojo wrote:You know, sometimes I just have to go to the bathroom. And maybe I'm going to be in there a while. I'd like to cloak my ship while I do that. Is that okay with you people??
Absolutely !!! |
Ghost of Truth
State War Academy
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.08.25 20:36:00 -
[282] - Quote
Renan Ruivo wrote:Came in expecting own current victim of AFK cloaking. Left with nothing but my own hands to satisfy myself ...
Victim you say?I thought AFK Cloaking doesn't do anything... |
Ghost of Truth
State War Academy
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.08.25 20:37:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:FFS not this again, nothing wrong with cloaks, cloaking or sitting there cloaked for intel purposes.
Except no risk, but whatever
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Ghost of Truth
State War Academy
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.08.25 20:52:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Osabojo wrote:You know, sometimes I just have to go to the bathroom. And maybe I'm going to be in there a while. I'd like to cloak my ship while I do that. Is that okay with you people??
Absolutely !!!
Sometimes, in 4000 fights I need to go to the bathroom also.Maybe we should put a 'Pause Everyone' button or even better cloak in all ships! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1288
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Posted - 2012.08.25 21:19:00 -
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Ghost of Truth wrote:Signal11th wrote:FFS not this again, nothing wrong with cloaks, cloaking or sitting there cloaked for intel purposes. Except no risk, but whatever
Yeah the riskless PVEers. Gotta add some risk to em 
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Adalynne Rohks
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
220
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Posted - 2012.08.25 23:37:00 -
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I must say... this thread has inspired me. Now, when I grow up, I want to be an afk cloaker/bomber/harrasser. Until I saw this thread, I hadn't really considered all the posibilities it could open up for me. |
Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
32
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Posted - 2012.08.26 00:30:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem.
We? There are wondrous drugs to help lessen the effects of schizophrenia these days.
*cloak on* |
Garreth Vlox
Blackened Skies
The Unthinkables
85
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Posted - 2012.08.26 01:34:00 -
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Via Shivon wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:
By definition afk activities are impossible. The reason people interpret "AFK Cloaker" as "cloaker" is because of the dishonesty of nullbears. AFK cloakers are a none issue, they pose no threat. They are literally incapable of doing anything. There is no discussion to be had about them. The thing that causes the tears is the fact that little terrible nullbears don't have free, infallible intel to tell them if they are 100% safe or not. Well tough god damn ****. That's part of living in nullsec. Deal with it or go back to hello kitty hisec.
wow so much smartasses... yeah i can understand how cool it must be in a game, to be 100% invisible, to be 100% invincible with just 1 high slot mod for zero costs using it. ok afk cloaker is not the problem - because afk is afk permacloaker are a problem with 0 risk, just to **** off other ppl playing eve and 99% of the time they even are afk and should be kickt from the server after 5 minutes. other thing would be a tool (ship, modul, structure) to detect them if they dont move TheGunslinger42 wrote:Cloaker whine threads make me respect the hisec bears more than nullbears. At least the hisec bears are honest about their risk aversion, the nullbears will never admit that they aren't h4rdc0re pr0s living in dangerous nullsec and are in fact some of the biggest and greediest cowards and crybabies going. If you want the rewards of living in nullsec, deal with the risks. That includes not knowing what that neutral in local is up to, and if he's a threat. Stop crying for CCP to turn nullsec into hell0.0kitty The reward ratting vs L4 mission is what? The reward mining abc vs veldspar is what? ...so OK go move mining to 0.0, cut the L4 missions by 75% income, than we are fine and you will never ever read anymore whining about a cloaky in a system afk blocking. we have the risk AND the reward. Nobody is talking abaut hellokitty, getting killt bye fleets, solo ships whatever. but afk alts blocking systems is bullshit
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873
I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too.
EDIT* you had small drones in your drone bay and you still died to an SB? O.O |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies
The Unthinkables
68
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Posted - 2012.08.26 01:47:00 -
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maybe you should upgrade from the medieval serfdom to a more free trade democratic form of government. that way you wont be stuck to 1 system. but hey what do i know...
like say you own a hug giant swath of space that needs to be rented out. provide a form of tax. of course tax the middle class a **** load. then add a decent homeowners tax on the offices ;) |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
559
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Posted - 2012.08.26 02:39:00 -
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Garreth Vlox wrote:Via Shivon wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:
By definition afk activities are impossible. The reason people interpret "AFK Cloaker" as "cloaker" is because of the dishonesty of nullbears. AFK cloakers are a none issue, they pose no threat. They are literally incapable of doing anything. There is no discussion to be had about them. The thing that causes the tears is the fact that little terrible nullbears don't have free, infallible intel to tell them if they are 100% safe or not. Well tough god damn ****. That's part of living in nullsec. Deal with it or go back to hello kitty hisec.
wow so much smartasses... yeah i can understand how cool it must be in a game, to be 100% invisible, to be 100% invincible with just 1 high slot mod for zero costs using it. ok afk cloaker is not the problem - because afk is afk permacloaker are a problem with 0 risk, just to **** off other ppl playing eve and 99% of the time they even are afk and should be kickt from the server after 5 minutes. other thing would be a tool (ship, modul, structure) to detect them if they dont move TheGunslinger42 wrote:Cloaker whine threads make me respect the hisec bears more than nullbears. At least the hisec bears are honest about their risk aversion, the nullbears will never admit that they aren't h4rdc0re pr0s living in dangerous nullsec and are in fact some of the biggest and greediest cowards and crybabies going. If you want the rewards of living in nullsec, deal with the risks. That includes not knowing what that neutral in local is up to, and if he's a threat. Stop crying for CCP to turn nullsec into hell0.0kitty The reward ratting vs L4 mission is what? The reward mining abc vs veldspar is what? ...so OK go move mining to 0.0, cut the L4 missions by 75% income, than we are fine and you will never ever read anymore whining about a cloaky in a system afk blocking. we have the risk AND the reward. Nobody is talking abaut hellokitty, getting killt bye fleets, solo ships whatever. but afk alts blocking systems is bullshit http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too. EDIT* you had small drones in your drone bay and you still died to an SB? O.O
Holy crap we have a new definition for the stupidity of Null bears, an orca slaughtered by a single SB while he has, wait for it wait for it, no real tank and cargo expanders.
Didn't this guy read his own alliance threads about stupid miners who don't bother to tank a ship and then run to the forums and whine about it.
Hell that kill is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.
So not only does not not realize that the markets are player run, the fact that destroying Hi-sec income as he suggested would destroy the game but to top it all off he is the poster boy for the exact people his alliance comes to the forum and complain about.
CCP really should do a spotlight on this guy: Spot light #5 Via Shivon an Exercise in Failure.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Dersk
Paxton Industries
Gentlemen's Agreement
116
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Posted - 2012.08.26 02:43:00 -
[291] - Quote
That was a awox, by the way. |
Garreth Vlox
Blackened Skies
The Unthinkables
85
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Posted - 2012.08.26 02:45:00 -
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Dersk wrote:That was a awox, by the way.
Its still awesome and its still funny that a guy in GOONS the alliance that was funding suicide ganks on untanked indy ships died horribly in an indy ship with no tank to a single stealth bomber WHILE he had small drones in his drone bay
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lanyaie
506
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Posted - 2012.08.26 02:50:00 -
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Here in wh space we don't have these kind of problems
I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
Soldarius
TreadStone Standard
Tribal Band
279
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Posted - 2012.08.26 02:56:00 -
[294] - Quote
lanyaie wrote:Here in wh space we don't have these kind of problems
I'm hoping you mean you don't have idiots like that orca pilot in your system. Because I've seen plenty of w-bears, and even killed a few in a solo bomber. Acually waited 2 hours for a dude dual-boxing domis to come back and salvage his wrecks, which he did. -1 Noctis, + lots o' loot for me.
"How do you kill that which has no life?" |
yopparai
ASTARTES CORP
Hashashin Cartel
1054
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Posted - 2012.08.26 03:04:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem. So how about this-
No most people understand that someone who is afk (away from keyboard) is no threat or problem at all.
The problem is your aversion to risk.
Yopp |
Garresh
Deep Axion
Ushra'Khan
25
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Posted - 2012.08.26 03:21:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:also in wormholes dscanning is actually helpful because, you see, probes show up on dscan
a cloaked bomber warping between 100% scan signatures doesn't
Just a small nitpick, but like 80% of the sites people run in w-space are anoms. No probes, no early warning. Never stopped anyone from running them.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1288
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Posted - 2012.08.26 03:28:00 -
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Honestly, this whole afk cloaking camp thing sounds almost like afk mining, but of tears.
However, you don't run the "risk" (har har) or some gankalysts getting you because, surprise, you're cloaked !
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Ghazu
53
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Posted - 2012.08.26 03:30:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Garreth Vlox wrote:Via Shivon wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:
By definition afk activities are impossible. The reason people interpret "AFK Cloaker" as "cloaker" is because of the dishonesty of nullbears. AFK cloakers are a none issue, they pose no threat. They are literally incapable of doing anything. There is no discussion to be had about them. The thing that causes the tears is the fact that little terrible nullbears don't have free, infallible intel to tell them if they are 100% safe or not. Well tough god damn ****. That's part of living in nullsec. Deal with it or go back to hello kitty hisec.
wow so much smartasses... yeah i can understand how cool it must be in a game, to be 100% invisible, to be 100% invincible with just 1 high slot mod for zero costs using it. ok afk cloaker is not the problem - because afk is afk permacloaker are a problem with 0 risk, just to **** off other ppl playing eve and 99% of the time they even are afk and should be kickt from the server after 5 minutes. other thing would be a tool (ship, modul, structure) to detect them if they dont move TheGunslinger42 wrote:Cloaker whine threads make me respect the hisec bears more than nullbears. At least the hisec bears are honest about their risk aversion, the nullbears will never admit that they aren't h4rdc0re pr0s living in dangerous nullsec and are in fact some of the biggest and greediest cowards and crybabies going. If you want the rewards of living in nullsec, deal with the risks. That includes not knowing what that neutral in local is up to, and if he's a threat. Stop crying for CCP to turn nullsec into hell0.0kitty The reward ratting vs L4 mission is what? The reward mining abc vs veldspar is what? ...so OK go move mining to 0.0, cut the L4 missions by 75% income, than we are fine and you will never ever read anymore whining about a cloaky in a system afk blocking. we have the risk AND the reward. Nobody is talking abaut hellokitty, getting killt bye fleets, solo ships whatever. but afk alts blocking systems is bullshit http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too. EDIT* you had small drones in your drone bay and you still died to an SB? O.O Holy crap we have a new definition for the stupidity of Null bears, an orca slaughtered by a single SB while he has, wait for it wait for it, no real tank and cargo expanders. Didn't this guy read his own alliance threads about stupid miners who don't bother to tank a ship and then run to the forums and whine about it. Hell that kill is the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. So not only does not not realize that the markets are player run, the fact that destroying Hi-sec income as he suggested would destroy the game but to top it all off he is the poster boy for the exact people his alliance comes to the forum and complain about. CCP really should do a spotlight on this guy: Spot light #5 Via Shivon an Exercise in Failure.
Afk cloaking, working as intended. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
Elysian Empire
319
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Posted - 2012.08.28 08:48:00 -
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Garreth Vlox wrote:http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14304873
I'd be mad if a bomber raped my orca too.
EDIT* you had small drones in your drone bay and you still died to an SB? O.O
Wow. How on earth can you lose an orca to a single stealthbomber when you have two sets of combat drones right there... it's not as if you wouldn't have had ample time to realise whats happening and deploy them. A single sb picking away at the structure on an orca...
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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
15
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Posted - 2012.08.28 08:54:00 -
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Apo Lyptica wrote:I think we pretty much agree that afk cloakers are a problem.
We do? |
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