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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2005.01.06 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Pride NL Next to collapse is Stain. No opponents to fight, pvpers get bored and go attack themselves. And if Stain collapses, then Xetic collapses as well, as Stain Jr ;)
CA might be dead, but the corps that were part of CA still live on, some will continue to fight.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2005.01.06 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Phonix
Originally by: Cabal Leader
Originally by: Phonix I Make claim to Great Wildlands for the "Phonix Alliance"
 
The Russians will WTFPWN you if you try.. Rus, Pioneers, Rush, etc-Russian are the real Masters of the Wildlands.. and the old Ca corps who died defending it.
Yep the real strip miner's union. I still am making claim to GWL  
Well then we will give you a Huge Welcome to Stronghold Greeting when we meet 
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.01.06 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic Wrangler - given the massive interest that is generated in ALL alliance politics, don't you think it would be worthwhile poking the dev's / whoever runs the in-game news service in to actually, you know, reporting on it? They started off with PA, the alliances are rising and falling faster than CCP can report on them and that, imo, is costing the players an awful lot of the interest that eve generates.
I agree. I think the collapse of CA is definitely newsworthy and should be up on there on all of the Concord billboards. I can't think of a bigger story in game right now.
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fras
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Posted - 2005.01.06 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 06/01/2005 08:56:51 I and my GW breatheren shall never let GW fall into the hands of our enemies or have single corp's and ceo's become so powerful in eve they dictate are path. It shall be the Fighters of are great region that shall hold the future of our success!!
FOR GW!!!!!!!!!
is the gw really big enough? Wont it be 10 ships per roid or am i over estimating numbers?
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:00:00 -
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Guess they'll end with a whimper.
I don't think there will be any cohesive announcement of the exact state of things in CA. Seems they fragmented due to so many things that even their own members are confused.
I'm just wondering at this point if they would have stuck together had we actually attacked them.
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DarK
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: DarK on 06/01/2005 10:14:35 Divide CA space and form 3 orso alliances from it, would be interesting:)
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Kretchi
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rebellion
I'm just wondering at this point if they would have stuck together had we actually attacked them.
A post has not got anything to do with EVOL, lets quickly make some wild speculations to try to include us in the CA folding
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: DarK Edited by: DarK on 06/01/2005 10:14:35 Divide CA space and form 3 orso alliances from it, would be interesting:)
Agreed.
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The Slavetrader
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: The Slavetrader on 06/01/2005 10:33:27
Originally by: Lord Draco Shinra left the CA as of DT. This sparked a lot od other happenings. I wish the best of luck to all the CA guys both past and present. We created and had a great alliance that may never be comparable in Eve. At the end of the day, Shinra had to go our own way so we could all rekindle our love of eve.
I'll be mining Veldspar in Yulai later tonight if anyone is interested.
Please dont have illusion of grandeur, Shinra never created CA and neither did VOTF.
VOTF were there at start yes, but with about 5 members and slowly recruited most of the idiots none of the other corps wanted anymore.
Also CA disbanded because only Chowdown or Tholarim could lead a fleet. When they commanded you did well, when they were not in gang you got annihilated by SE/ATUK/Xetic/Evol [insert another enemy you made here]. (RUS excluded from this rant as they are smart and good enough to do their own thing)
Blaming Foyle is funny and a nice way to save face from the fact you can no longer hope to fight the losing battle and want to lose with some dignity.
Shinra and Supremacy will no doubt create something together which will be interesting and hopefully will exclude the children of VOTF and the hundred other little nub corps which joined CA and thought once they had CA in their tags that they were somehow good.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic Wrangler - given the massive interest that is generated in ALL alliance politics, don't you think it would be worthwhile poking the dev's / whoever runs the in-game news service in to actually, you know, reporting on it? They started off with PA, the alliances are rising and falling faster than CCP can report on them and that, imo, is costing the players an awful lot of the interest that eve generates.
Now THATS the kind of billboard id stop to read
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Cyran0
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: DarK Edited by: DarK on 06/01/2005 10:14:35 Divide CA space and form 3 orso alliances from it, would be interesting:)
hmm...3 CA factions will be very interesting  http://shinra.sgnonline.com/sigs/cyrano.jpg When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite |

The Monk
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Posted - 2005.01.06 10:53:00 -
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Indeed it is a sad sad day... ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |

Psychopat
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shiwan Khan basically foyle got an ego thinking everyone loved her blah blah blah, she rips the alliance apart blames it on Xirt while getting rich from taking the minerals form the mineral fund.
Really? Then she must be the most powerfull person in EVE destroying CA single handed. Also, I seam to remember some CEO posts a thread about planning the death of CA for 6 months.
Contradictions in your post wouldnt you say?
Destroying the whole alliance just to get back to power is.....well I got no words for it.
-=water? Never touch the stuff,fish fock in it=- |

dabster
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:13:00 -
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Curious as i am not in game yet for probably some hours, did the actual alliance get disbanded in-game, or is it 'only' (:/) a few corps that have left (so far :/)? ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |

Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: The Slavetrader Edited by: The Slavetrader on 06/01/2005 10:33:27
Originally by: Lord Draco Shinra left the CA as of DT. This sparked a lot od other happenings. I wish the best of luck to all the CA guys both past and present. We created and had a great alliance that may never be comparable in Eve. At the end of the day, Shinra had to go our own way so we could all rekindle our love of eve.
I'll be mining Veldspar in Yulai later tonight if anyone is interested.
Please dont have illusion of grandeur, Shinra never created CA and neither did VOTF.
VOTF were there at start yes, but with about 5 members and slowly recruited most of the idiots none of the other corps wanted anymore.
Also CA disbanded because only Chowdown or Tholarim could lead a fleet. When they commanded you did well, when they were not in gang you got annihilated by SE/ATUK/Xetic/Evol [insert another enemy you made here]. (RUS excluded from this rant as they are smart and good enough to do their own thing)
Blaming Foyle is funny and a nice way to save face from the fact you can no longer hope to fight the losing battle and want to lose with some dignity.
Shinra and Supremacy will no doubt create something together which will be interesting and hopefully will exclude the children of VOTF and the hundred other little nub corps which joined CA and thought once they had CA in their tags that they were somehow good.
Get a clue, come back when you know what your talking about
Just for your information i was there So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Guinness SA's next target is the amarr empire.
I dont think MASS with be too happy about this.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Psychopat
Originally by: Shiwan Khan basically foyle got an ego thinking everyone loved her blah blah blah, she rips the alliance apart blames it on Xirt while getting rich from taking the minerals form the mineral fund.
Really? Then she must be the most powerfull person in EVE destroying CA single handed. Also, I seam to remember some CEO posts a thread about planning the death of CA for 6 months.
Contradictions in your post wouldnt you say?
Destroying the whole alliance just to get back to power is.....well I got no words for it.
Psychopat, VOTF, didnt destroy CA, we left, when the councill, dictated how to run our corporation......It seemed alot of other corps was thinking the same as us.
You made this happen for yourself, now live with it So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: OVERCOPES 1 on 06/01/2005 11:25:51
Originally by: kessah Edited by: kessah on 06/01/2005 08:54:14 LEMMIE HEAR YOUR WAR CRIES!!!!!!! WRAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*had too much coffee 6 hours sleep in the last 3days and been playing eve for nearly 30 hours for the last 3 days sorry if my enthuasiasm scares you *
and this is coming from a corperation that as far as i can tell never joined th C.A on a offical basis.
good job black lotus.
*edit typos.
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Guinness SA's next target is the amarr empire.
the mighty empire will pwnzer you all,cus god told us 
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Phonix I Make claim to Great Wildlands for the "Phonix Alliance"
 
i shall fight you naked in hand to hand combat for such a prize!
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Kibachaan
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:55:00 -
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Quote: the 'ebil XETIC fed' under the lead of the pink-pantie pirate-princess Nafri
Huh? Yer whatever. Coming from a guy not even in the alliance let alone HC.
Ulrich is right. The going got stupid so the intelligent got going. Now the stupid are dying.
There's a bunch of possible reasons that CA fell apart. They swore and swore that they would take over Immensea:
Quote: copy this chatlog immensea will belong to OC
But hey! What happens when that doesn't work? Frustration. The above is only an example the fits me, but there are more. And what happens when the arrogant can't satisfy their egos? Tension. Tension that has seeped out into their own home. The people who don't want that crap left. The people who thrive on that crap are now weak. New found respect for Xirtam in standing up for his mate, that's the stuff REAL alliances are made of.
To my dear dear CA. I'd wish you luck, but I can't because one I want you to die and two, even if I didn't, I don't kid myself.
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Nepereta
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Posted - 2005.01.06 11:59:00 -
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I may be CAs enemy but I think this probably a load of rubbish. I feel the following:
'We are war with CA simply because we have to be at war with someone. If CA die tommorrow we will probably need to find a new enemy or perhaps XF PvPers will have to form mercenary groups. So its not actually in our interest that our enemy dies.'
Sure occasionally XF/SE fleets shut down curse, cache & detorid. Sometimes CA fleets shut down immensea or camp cache but the war is a zero sum equation. Noone ever wins and noone ever loses. Some corps leave the 2 allainces and some join and take their place. Some players leave and others join. Looking at the war I don't believe in all honestly it will ever end unless one side makes some serious errors and loses ground on manpower/resources to fight.
XF is actually internally strenghtened by the war due to the fact we have an enemy/scapegoat to fight and blame. A war actually raises morale and causes us in XF to work together under pressures and come out all the stronger than before.
I remember the 2 weeks prior to CA-XF war, XF fleets started patrolling various places like HED-GP but we had no enemy! No one to vent our spleen! XF had about 2 corps in all of Eve at the time that where enemies. Then soon as the opportunity came along when a CA member was seen in the wrong part of our space we killed and podded him.
The sentiment was that it was legal by the carebears as far as the carefull wording of the NAPs worked out as for the PvPers we all collectively drew our breath and waited for the plunge into hostilities.
So CA stay alive and stay strong continue to challenge us in this 100 year war.
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:05:00 -
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I miss Sinister. ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:06:00 -
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Wrangler just changed the topic from "Curse Alliance Folding" to "Curse Alliance rumours" ._. ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
Inactivity wins you. |

Aeryn Sun
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:07:00 -
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Stay tuned for an announcement from Stain Empire.
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The Slavetrader
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
Get a clue, come back when you know what your talking about
Just for your information i was there
Please highlight the inaccuracies as opposed to simply attempting to brush the facts aside with 'get a clue'.
Internal politics do not cause such friction when all is going well do they ?. However they sure become an issue when external pressures are mounting
Do you deny that all memorable fleet wins have come with a Shinra or Supremacy leader running things and all major embaressing losses have come whilst a VOTF member was in command ?
Do you deny that as a result of this Shinra and Suprem have secretly wanted VOTF out of the alliance for months ?
Do you deny the Shinra and Supremacy have become annoyed at the amount of useless corps brought in to bolster numbers and sullying the CA name as have large ex CA pvp corps in the past such as m0o and ATUk ?
I saw it in CFS when we/they were constantly attacked last year, personal gripes became more frequent with blame looking to be placed anywhere it could. The same has happened with CA. I would love to be privvy to CA internal forums right now.
The public just want to know which CA corps will be allying with whom ?
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Psychopat
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
Originally by: Psychopat
Originally by: Shiwan Khan basically foyle got an ego thinking everyone loved her blah blah blah, she rips the alliance apart blames it on Xirt while getting rich from taking the minerals form the mineral fund.
Really? Then she must be the most powerfull person in EVE destroying CA single handed. Also, I seam to remember some CEO posts a thread about planning the death of CA for 6 months.
Contradictions in your post wouldnt you say?
Destroying the whole alliance just to get back to power is.....well I got no words for it.
Psychopat, VOTF, didnt destroy CA, we left, when the councill, dictated how to run our corporation......It seemed alot of other corps was thinking the same as us.
You made this happen for yourself, now live with it
Yeah I know you guys left. However, a post by your CEO saying he planned for this to happen sorta prooves you wrong wouldnt you say?
Would like to opertunity to wish you the best of luck in whatever you do in EVE next.
-=water? Never touch the stuff,fish fock in it=- |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:25:00 -
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No more alliance spam mails.
\o/
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: The Slavetrader
Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
Get a clue, come back when you know what your talking about
Just for your information i was there
Please highlight the inaccuracies as opposed to simply attempting to brush the facts aside with 'get a clue'.
Internal politics do not cause such friction when all is going well do they ?. However they sure become an issue when external pressures are mounting
Do you deny that all memorable fleet wins have come with a Shinra or Supremacy leader running things and all major embaressing losses have come whilst a VOTF member was in command ?
Do you deny that as a result of this Shinra and Suprem have secretly wanted VOTF out of the alliance for months ?
Do you deny the Shinra and Supremacy have become annoyed at the amount of useless corps brought in to bolster numbers and sullying the CA name as have large ex CA pvp corps in the past such as m0o and ATUk ?
I saw it in CFS when we/they were constantly attacked last year, personal gripes became more frequent with blame looking to be placed anywhere it could. The same has happened with CA. I would love to be privvy to CA internal forums right now.
The public just want to know which CA corps will be allying with whom ?
That about sums it up.
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2005.01.06 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic Wrangler - given the massive interest that is generated in ALL alliance politics, don't you think it would be worthwhile poking the dev's / whoever runs the in-game news service in to actually, you know, reporting on it? They started off with PA, the alliances are rising and falling faster than CCP can report on them and that, imo, is costing the players an awful lot of the interest that eve generates.
The problem with reporting on such topics is always the killer - Information. From a news perspective, obtaining information and then validating afore mentioned information can always be tricky (and sometimes slow process if not given a heads up).
In future if theres anything you think is news page worthy, or want to talk to one of the IC's you can use [email protected] to get in contact with them.
---- Nebulai Vice-Admiral Events Team Interstellar Services Department
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