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Shalee Lianne Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.10.27 04:53:00 - [31] Yawn.
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.10.27 06:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Long-winded Lies He even boasted to his ex girlfriend (and current lover of the race traitor Eran Mintor) Shalee Lianne ôDonÆt worry about the Fraction wardec, they will soon have more things to concern them than farming the Knighthood of the Merciful Crown!ö You made me "lol". ------------------------------------------------ Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe
Anabella Rella Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.10.27 06:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Eran Mintor You made me "lol". So did your girlfriend's picture. Seriously, an Amarrian hag? It's one thing to be a traitor but, to also be one with such questionable taste...shameful indeed. Oh, and congrats to the Freecaptains for sending another pack of arrogant, sniveling dogs running. What you want is irrelevant. What you've chosen is at hand.
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.10.27 06:42:00 - [34] Shalee is the most desirable woman in all of New Eden, so I'm not sure where my tastes went sour. ------------------------------------------------ Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe
Gangleri Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard	Posted - 2010.10.27 07:51:00 - [35] Originally by: Jade Constantine The last few weeks in Providence have been rife with treachery, betrayal, theft and base opportunism, but these things are the stock in trade for nullsec space, .... No, these things are the stock of your so called anarchy philosophy. You only got what you brought yourself to Providence. The sinful always get reduced to nothing. 1PG is recruiting
Eru Velari	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:18:00 - [36] Mr Constantine, I feel the need to correct your facts a bit. I cant say how the forces of my former alliance and home fared in providence, but i can tell you this. You claim that the "impact of this conflict" killed ICE, well you didnt really "kill" that alliance, did you? It had been ongoingly cascading since the Vale eviction, which by the way was an amazing display of Northern Coalition Hypocracy if you look into it. To put into perspective, which event do you think is the most traumatic? failing to take a station system with an allready bleeding and disillousioned alliance, taking a mere 5 billion in damage in the process or loosing a whole constellation and resulting in 600 pilots leaving, more than half of which almost immediately rejoined the NC. Furthermore, when you read the news you might want to factor in that you are likely not reading the whole story. ICE was hardly broke, asking for donations is a pretty common thing to do in any alliance in a similar situation to get things done and ICE had in fact been repaid the full cost of the station that they had built in the north only a short time after. The transfer is evident from publicly available sources. Which brings me to ask why they didnt offer a proper deal. Hubris probably. shrug They didnt exactly leave Providence. Its my understanding that most of what was left of the alliance joined Important Internet spaceship league. Cute story, allthough when you write up an account this onesided its sorta useless to anyone other than yourself. You could have saved yourself the hassle, mr Constantine. To end this commentary, Id just like to say, to the former leadership of [ICE] On the rocks, new aswell as old. It was a wellmeaning initiative, an open alliance to anyone who cared to join, unfortunately this also proved to be our downfall. You made errors but you fought like lions keeping the boat steady. To ICE and to SKMC from Providence to Fountain to Vale of the silent and back to Providence, you will allways be home. <3
Evet Morrel Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:27:00 - [37] On the contrary Gangleri, this reminded us of where we came from, of the birth of SF when PIE were the oversees exploiting their transhuman cousins for the Amarrian block. We exploded the imperial myth, their ability to provide security, exposing the regressive gang masters' regime of punitive taxation and exploitation of those they would chain to the rocks of providence. Had they come prepared to make a new home as comrades they would have had better friends, than the self important internet spaceship pilots, with all the facilities of TAZ at their disposal, the fools.
Tekumze Wolf Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Eru Velari Edited by: Eru Velari on 27/10/2010 11:36:29 Ms. Constantine, I feel the need to correct your facts a bit. I cant say how the forces of my former alliance and home fared in providence, but i can tell you this. You claim that the "impact of this conflict" killed ICE, well you didnt really "kill" that alliance, did you? It had been ongoingly cascading since the Vale eviction, which by the way was an amazing display of Northern Coalition Hypocracy if you look into it. To put into perspective, which event do you think is the most traumatic? failing to take a station system with an allready bleeding and disillousioned alliance, taking a mere 5 billion in damage in the process or loosing a whole constellation and resulting in 600 pilots leaving, more than half of which almost immediately rejoined the NC. Jade is hardly saying that we're solely responsible for the cascade of the alliance as you remember it. Whatever ICE may have been is unimportant now. ICE(or the remnants of what it once was as you picture it) came to Providence somehow expecting SF would roll over and let a territorial alliance claim the station without a fight. They were wrong and the collective efforts of SF and some other entities (Jade listed those who helped us) proved to be the straw that broke the (ICE)camels back. Past history (no matter how glorious it may be) is past. We fought ICE as it is ... well was. The funniest thing in the whole story is that they could have simply moved into the station do whatever they wanted in the system and we'd be paying the bills for them. They decided to put a gun to our head and they failed.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 13:40:00 - [39] Originally by: Rodj Blake I am not at all surprised that Providence descended into a "cesspit of perfidy populated by bandits and hucksters intent on stealing the labour of others" under the heathen regime. It was only to be expected. I look forward to the day that the region is restored to its rightful governers (ie Amarrian loyalists) so that law and order once again exists there. Fortunately, SF's apparent actions in destroying one of the squatters in Providence have brought that day a little bit closer. I believe you are labouring under a misconception here Rodj Blake and I will give you the benefit of the doubt and correct it for you. The current composition of the "Supreme Providence Council" is hardly Matari based or led. The Ushra'khan have gone. Star Fraction has no representation or support there. I don't believe any true freedom fighters or Matari guerillas still do. And though I cannot speak for the Ushra'khan formally I do know they will tell you their intention in Providence was to liberate the billions of slaves held planetside and in orbiting facilities during the CVA era. This liberation was completed and the job was done. For our part in the Fraction, we aided our allies in their design and then sought to establish a Free Port to celebrate the victory over tyranny that had been achieved in Providence - no more, no less. As to what has come after. Daisho, Sodalitas, Important Internet Spaceships, Teutonic Guard, and the rest, these are no friends to freedom or the matari liberation movements. In the main they are simply opportunist brigands intent on pursuing a free lunch where such can be obtained. Internet Spaceships in fact have been accused of aiding the Imperialist Amarrian cause in recent days by outspoken commentators in the TLF - and as should of become clear in my account - a former noted Fleet Commander of the 24th Crusade is operating within Important Internet Spaceships as strategist and planner. During our fighting with these dogs we've often seen the Neo Providence holders boasting about their new slaves and attempting to outdo the CVA in brazen cruelty to the remaining populations of these unhappy worlds. A pilot from Teutonic Guard alliance publicly spaced a cargo bay full of women and children he'd acquired through a courier contract to make the point that they embraced slavery and considered baseline human life of null value on the frontier while we harried the enemy fleet with bomb-runs and intediction. My point is Rodj Blake - you are wrong to try to equate the current state of Providence with Matari choices and anarchist principle. We achieved a victory earlier this year and liberated billions from your grasp, our task was successful and by and large our interest in the region ended with that. What exists now in Providence is a society of capsuleer roaches who have ventured out from beneath the rotten carpets of mouldy imperialism to foist the bankrupt stink of NBSI ideology on another unlucky region because their imagination knows nothing else. In fact they are even now trying to ape the CVA in their terminology and councils, in their dreams and aspirations. That is why they boast their new slaves - why they use the terminology of Aralis and flatter themselves "holders" rather than honest pilots in a free trade zone. Obviously they must burn. And so the cycle continues. As I said in my introduction piece, some regions are cursed and I think the long occupation of the CVA has twisted the minds of those coming to live in their abadoned stations and holdings - it didn't take the rabble long to dress up in the gowns and robes of the Amarrian Slavers and start giving themselves airs and graces and start quoting scripture. You will not be fighting "heathens" during your reconquest of Providence Rodj Blake - you will be fighting your own wayward children aspiring to your own way of life. Join the Revolution!
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.10.27 13:44:00 - [40] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/10/2010 13:46:35 I said that Providence had been taken over by heathens, not by Minmatars nor by anti-slavery activists, nor even by anarchists. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 13:53:00 - [41] Originally by: Rodj Blake I said that Providence had been taken over by heathens, not by Minmatars nor by anti-slavery activists, nor even by anarchists. Nevertheless. I thought it worthwhile reminding you that chief amongst those "heathens" is an organization employing the past golden-child of the 24th Crusade "Predator Elite" who is still in the habit of hot-dropping the TLF using his new resources and associations. New Eden politics is a tangled web and its rarely possible to draw such a clear line between "heathen" and "non-heathen" when your objective in Providence is currently run by a 24th Crusade-friendly organization with a former FC of that organization in the driving seat. The Ushra'khan and their genuine allies achieved a great and wonderful thing in Providence this year with the breaking of the holder power and liberation of a billion slaves. Lets not tarnish that memory in the ridiculous belief that the current state of providence has anything to do with freedom. Join the Revolution!
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.10.27 13:57:00 - [42] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/10/2010 14:00:16 Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake I said that Providence had been taken over by heathens, not by Minmatars nor by anti-slavery activists, nor even by anarchists. Nevertheless. I thought it worthwhile reminding you that chief amongst those "heathens" is an organization employing the past golden-child of the 24th Crusade "Predator Elite" who is still in the habit of hot-dropping the TLF using his new resources and associations. New Eden politics is a tangled web and its rarely possible to draw such a clear line between "heathen" and "non-heathen" when your objective in Providence is currently run by a 24th Crusade-friendly organization with a former FC of that organization in the driving seat. The Ushra'khan and their genuine allies achieved a great and wonderful thing in Providence this year with the breaking of the holder power and liberation of a billion slaves. Lets not tarnish that memory in the ridiculous belief that the current state of providence has anything to do with freedom. Actually, it's quite easy to distinguish between heathens and non-heathens. A heathen is someone who refuses to accept the guidance of the Scriptures. As for your claim regarding the release of a billion slaves - care to provide some evidence for that? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.10.27 14:02:00 - [43] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/10/2010 13:51:38 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/10/2010 13:50:44 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/10/2010 13:46:35 I said that Providence had been taken over by heathens, not by Minmatars nor by anti-slavery activists, nor even by anarchists. And I'm pretty sure that when Providence first fell to those heathens I predicted that the region would become an NBSI hellhole. Actually very few of the 'heathens' who currently live in Providence had any part in taking the space over from CVA and their associates. The 'heathens' who did that are elsewhere.
Dunn Idaho Caldari Core Impulse Nihilists Social Club	Posted - 2010.10.27 14:03:00 - [44] Originally by: Jade Constantine It had been a hard summer for the Free Captains of the Star Fraction. The Core Impulse campaign was a frustrating, bad-tempered, sporadic and cynical affair, with friendly militia penetrated by Amarrian agents, psyops and forum-spam campaigns, bitter smacktalk and general cowardice masquerading as combat techniques in the enemy ranks. We kept on our primary target throughout though and eventually established a foothold in their operating system that proved crucial in breaking their influence in the warzone. With the assistance of the Gallente Militia, the Flowing Penguins, 8th Order, CTRL-Q and ROSS we gradually increased pressure and evolved ways of killing even non-aggressed dock-gamers on the Huola station (passive locking 1400 artillery platforms of great justice) which doubtless contributed to the final dissolution of Core Impulse and their departure from the 24th Crusade. Actually, we got bored of the lack of engagements from the minnies, and their constant ways of docking up. We couldnÆt even get them to agress a capital at a station any more in the end, cause they knew we would gank it in under its deagression timer. So after pretty much beating down the TLF, and with the destruction of the heretical Aeon in Houla. The Empress came to me in a dream one night and told me our work was done, and that she was proud of what we had accomplished, and that it was time for us to seek out a new challenge, for the good of the Empire. Witch we did, and its been a blast so far. So stop deluding yourself Jade, you never had any impact on us when it came to our decision making, and overall direction in New Eden. We both know you and your fraction failed completely in disrupting our operations in the bleak lands when we where a part of the 24th. You where nothing more than a minor nuisance at best... Dunn Idaho Core Impulse Nihilist Social Club
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 14:11:00 - [45] Originally by: Dunn Idaho So stop deluding yourself Jade ... you never had any impact on us when it came to our decision making smiles with a little amusement at this most familiar of imperialist rhetorical wriggles Yes, we never actually blow any enemy spaceships up either. Its odd, all we have to do is come out of a warp and lock on our targeting sensors and they just self-destruct. Nothing to do with us whatsoever. Join the Revolution!
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.10.27 14:14:00 - [46] Originally by: Borza Slavak Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/10/2010 13:51:38 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/10/2010 13:50:44 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/10/2010 13:46:35 I said that Providence had been taken over by heathens, not by Minmatars nor by anti-slavery activists, nor even by anarchists. And I'm pretty sure that when Providence first fell to those heathens I predicted that the region would become an NBSI hellhole. Actually very few of the 'heathens' who currently live in Providence had any part in taking the space over from CVA and their associates. The 'heathens' who did that are elsewhere. Some of the names may have changed, but the descent into lawlessness continued. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.27 14:37:00 - [47] God willing, the poor immitations will fall victim to their own treachery amongst themselves and we will remove them in due time. Then believers and dreamers of true conviction can sort out their differences in appropriate (and inevitably violent) fashion without interference. To that end, I wish the Fractionites continued success.
Flashh Gorden Exile Consortium Nihilists Social Club	Posted - 2010.10.27 15:47:00 - [48] Well since your fighting the same people we are fighting and since your also seeking to return the area back to its former NRDS glory. Its weird but I wish you good luck for once.
Eru Velari	Posted - 2010.10.27 16:42:00 - [49] Originally by: Tekumze Wolf Jade is hardly saying that we're solely responsible for the cascade of the alliance as you remember it. Quote: The Dotlan data analysis site paints a grim picture on the impact of this conflict on the enemy alliance. With the final word going to the On the Rocks alliance description after two weeks fighting with the Star Fraction in YWS0-Z. Seems to me thats exactly what she is saying. "Not solely responsible", is even not the whole truth. Not many entities will survive the loss of space and ICE certainly would not. Insignificantly responsible is a better term. As Constantine said herself, this was seemingly a last ditch effort by ICE at turning things around, its unlikely that ICE would have survived even if they had taken the station. You cant claim victory if your enemy is allready dying.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.10.27 16:55:00 - [50] Originally by: Eru Velari You cant claim victory if your enemy is allready dying. You can if you're Jade! ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor

Evet Morrel Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 17:00:00 - [51] Edited by: Evet Morrel on 27/10/2010 17:02:32 Sure your thick as thieves, but the dates of the conflict demonstrates a clear correlation between their demise and our response. We're entitled to draw the obvious conclusion.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 17:16:00 - [52] "On the rocks" diplomats told us we had a stark choice. Sell them the Freeport TAZ Norlonto for 400m isk or they would take it and make it their new alliance home. In return we told them we'd grind their alliance into dust. A little over two weeks later their alliance closed with a membership drop of 400 to 15, the surrender of all corps bar two and the complete dissolution of combat operations. In space we crushed them utterly. While I will happily acknowledge that ICE may not have been in the best of health when it staggered to Providence and attempted to steal our Freeport. I think its beyond any credible position to claim we didn't put the gun to this alliance's head and blow its brains out in YWS0-Z. Any spin to the contrary from pre-jumped Ice-rats and the usual galnet subjects is simply laughable. Join the Revolution!
ChipMo Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 17:51:00 - [53] Originally by: Rodj Blake I said that Providence had been taken over by heathens, not by Minmatars nor by anti-slavery activists, nor even by anarchists. And I'm pretty sure that when Providence first fell to those heathens I predicted that the region would become an NBSI hellhole. Luckily, Loyalists are now actively reclaiming systems with the intention of returning them to NRDS. A Region is neither NBSI nor NRDS. People are. Got a dispute? Take it to court with the CCCNP!
Eru Velari	Posted - 2010.10.27 18:21:00 - [54] You can claim whatever you want. Ihve made my point, readers will draw their own conclusions. At the end of the day its pretty pointless to argue with you, so go ahead and pad yourself on the back all you want.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.27 19:56:00 - [55] I guess pedantry is still a pet peeve of mine. Originally by: Eru Velari You can claim whatever you want. Ihve made my point, readers will draw their own conclusions. At the end of the day its pretty pointless to argue with you, so go ahead and pad yourself on the back all you want. At the end of the day it's pretty pointless to try to take away from the successful defense against a sovereignty grab...especially by making so assinine a case as "they were already falling apart, so defending your space against them doesn't count.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 20:43:00 - [56] We get used to it Garreck. Some of these special fans of ours loathe the Fraction so furiously(impotently) that if we reported we'd tackled and destroyed a war target ratting battleship in a belt they'd argue passionately that the explosion had nothing to do with anarchist spaceships and it was purely because of a faulty fusion core and malfunctioning guidance thrusters that made the ship crash into a veldspar roid and spontaneously combust. The very notion that the Fraction is out there killing alliances feels these guys with a deep sense of pant-wetting unease. And rightly so Join the Revolution!
Eru Velari	Posted - 2010.10.27 20:50:00 - [57] No that was not what i was getting at at all. 9 pages discribing in detail how awesome The star Fraction is and how they made ICE sink into the darkness of oblivion seem a little excessive, for the successful defense against an allready failing alliance. You're quite a pretentious one you know, but we all allready knew that. :)
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.10.27 21:05:00 - [58] Originally by: Eru Velari You're quite a pretentious one you know, but we all allready knew that. :) When you feel ready to post a campaign report here about how you reduced a 400 man alliance to a 15 man shell identity in a slowly spreading field of radiactive debris I will welcome it as a good read! Join the Revolution!
tank335 Gallente Skara Admiralty Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.10.27 22:59:00 - [59] I am sure ICE's shoddy leadership and the superiority complex of SKMC members help lead to their demise
Swwils	Posted - 2010.10.28 00:55:00 - [60] SOMEONE PLEASE SUMMERISE THIS INTO ONE SENTANCE THANKYOU.



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