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Icarus3 Gallente DAEDALUS X Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.11.23 16:11:00 - [181] Just wait until you see what DX4 has planned for the near future A new EVE community DX4 Web Portal
SpotlessBlade Evident Doom Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.12.02 04:13:00 - [182] Edited by: SpotlessBlade on 02/12/2010 04:14:39 So I've just now read this post. And I just about fell out of my chair laughing at the reversals from the providence big (A**) Hats. Jade first of all, well damned done. Recognizing capabilities versus ego is the penultimate quality of any small or guerilla alliance of freedom fighters. I am ashamed to say that is a lesson that we in Ushra'Khan may have forgotten and are just now relearning. That being said, -SF- performance has been stellar and your adherence to the cause has been unwavering. And when faced with an organization of freedom fighters who have not forgotten their purpose, what do our enemies do? Some fall apart, some ask for forgiveness, and others beg for your help. Never forget their rationalizations for their betrayals of the NIP and Ushra'Khan. How many reasons they had!!! some were real but the majority were convoluted exscuses for territorial expansion. And where did there aspirations bring them? To the brink of destruction, with hordes of soulless enemies baying at their doors with the puny remnants of their NIP as protection. Oh the irony. U'K I believe wanted what was best for providence. A fertile ground where strength by ability and honor remained instead of pure numerical superiorities and meta-gaming. The alliances of the time scorned the united strength that we could have shown, and now they fall in droves, fleeing providence as we once did in the face of their treachery. Can you imagine the response that a unified providence with Bdeal, CO2, SF, Agony, U'K, and all could have shown these interlopers? So much wasted potential at the hands of their greed. At least with CVA's return to power, maybe honor and the warrior spirit will return to providence, along with the Ushra"khan. Well Done SF! O7
Wingnuut Gallente Cryo Innovations	Posted - 2010.12.02 20:40:00 - [183] To the Free Captains of the Star Fraction, Speaking on behalf of Teutonic Guard, I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for the misunderstanding regarding the attack by Teutonic Guard on the Free Port of TAZ Norlonto. The circumstances were confusing, miscommunication occurred and actions were taken that were not intended. We have taken steps within our alliance to prevent another occurrence such as this from happening again. As such, we accept the cessation of hostilities with the Star Fraction. In addition, we are willing to acquiesce to the request of allowing the pilots of Star Fraction to dock in G-5. Former CEO Of Teutonic Guard Alliance Wingnuut CEO of Cryo Innovations
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.12.02 21:13:00 - [184] Originally by: Wingnuut To the Free Captains of the Star Fraction, Speaking on behalf of Teutonic Guard, I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for the misunderstanding regarding the attack by Teutonic Guard on the Free Port of TAZ Norlonto. The circumstances were confusing, miscommunication occurred and actions were taken that were not intended. We have taken steps within our alliance to prevent another occurrence such as this from happening again. As such, we accept the cessation of hostilities with the Star Fraction. In addition, we are willing to acquiesce to the request of allowing the pilots of Star Fraction to dock in G-5. Former CEO Of Teutonic Guard Alliance Wingnuut There comes a time to accept that a particular opponent has been wounded enough for the needs of vengeance and its fair to say that the last couple of months has been particularly hard on Teutonic Guard. The war with the Fraction began when pilots of Teutonic Guard aided the cowardly assault on the Freespace Outpost of TAZ Nortlonto alongside the now dead "on the rocks alliance" and we considered this a particular betrayal given the friendly welcome we'd given to TG on their arrival in providence in the months before Ushra'khan were driven out by the "big hats." Hence the fury of the Free Captains expressed in the months of slaughter we have brought to Teutonic Guard in G-5 and Ammatar territories accounting for around 10.3 billion isk inflicted and around 221 recorded ship kills concluding in the functional collapse of TG as a spaceholding entity several weeks ago and the final dissolution of the concord sanctioned alliance indentity a couple of hours ago this evening. In the wake of this dissolution I met with CEO Wingnuut in Faspera system where he proposed to negotiate the formal surrender of Cyro Innovations (former executor corp of Teutonic Guard) and we agreed to accept this on provision he make restitution to the symbolic total of 400m isk. With the formal elimination of Teutonic Guard alliance that brings our total to 3 dead alliances and 21b isk punitive damages inflicted against the "big hats" and their servants and hirelings thus far. Join the Revolution!
Xyla Vulchanus Amarr Standing Rock Company United Rock Enterprises Ltd	Posted - 2010.12.06 19:51:00 - [185] Originally by: Intigo And I would like to state for the record that I am utterly surprised to find Jade writing walls of text. Whenever I read a communication from a member of Hydra I want to puke in my pod. Are they incapable of posting anything that isn't sarcastic? Is every single one of them an angst-ridden teenage virgin? Why anyone would want to be associated with this bunch is totally beyond me. Star Fraction, keep fighting the good fight!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.02.07 19:05:00 - [186] Update. As of the beginning of this year we have moved on from dismantling the "big hat" allies who moved against Norlonto. Over the course of the campaigning several entities were effectively destroyed and we accounted for a punitive damage total of over 21b isk against the initial traitors and turncoats who sought to purchase the freeport for the laughable sum of 400m. While a few billion short of our target (24-25) we had to yield to the conclusion that there was literally nothing left of our initial foes to break anymore. For the last month or so we have switched our intentions to the Evoke/Ewok coalition in Providence and in due course will detail the campaigning there. Its been a fruitful beginning and we're up to 11.5b isk damage on the industrialists and minor pawns of this territorialist alliance in Providence but we have much further to go and raise a toast to the ghost of freedom in YWS0-Z as we torch the roaches and miners of this "elite combat alliance" who chose to steal the labour of others and then bleat to the Privateers for help when things went wrong at home. It takes around 24b isk to establish an outpost. So far the enemies of the Fraction have paid 33b to steal one. War continues. Join the Revolution!
Vaarun Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2011.02.07 19:50:00 - [187] Edited by: Vaarun on 07/02/2011 19:52:17 Originally by: Jade Constantine Update. As of the beginning of this year we have moved on from dismantling the "big hat" allies who moved against Norlonto. Over the course of the campaigning several entities were effectively destroyed and we accounted for a punitive damage total of over 21b isk against the initial traitors and turncoats who sought to purchase the freeport for the laughable sum of 400m. While a few billion short of our target (24-25) we had to yield to the conclusion that there was literally nothing left of our initial foes to break anymore. For the last month or so we have switched our intentions to the Evoke/Ewok coalition in Providence and in due course will detail the campaigning there. Its been a fruitful beginning and we're up to 11.5b isk damage on the industrialists and minor pawns of this territorialist alliance in Providence but we have much further to go and raise a toast to the ghost of freedom in YWS0-Z as we torch the roaches and miners of this "elite combat alliance" who chose to steal the labour of others and then bleat to the Privateers for help when things went wrong at home. It takes around 24b isk to establish an outpost. So far the enemies of the Fraction have paid 33b to steal one. War continues. Ahh...victory through better spreadsheeting. Your skills at massaging numbers and drawing conclusions has always amazed me. You would claim 33B of damage as a victory against a 24B station, when you need to depreciate your own balance with the loss of 24B for ths station in addition to any other losses. If they still hold the station and you have incurred more than 11.5B in losses, I think they have the upper hand, no? It's not about the amounts that have changed hands, but the ground you hold. I am not well-versed in nullsec economics, but 33B, 24B, and 11.5B seem like pocket change. Most reports I read from nullsec speak of SOV and general conquest. They do not have to resort to making a few isk-based bullet-points to justify their situation. Having and holding SOV speaks volumes. All other efforts are background noise. Regardless of your hand-waving, I see you without a system, without a nullsec station, and destroying Ewoks in highsec. I assume you are confident that killing frigates in Dital will have a ripple-effect to crush the economies and morale of the Ewoks in Nullsec, no? And, in anticipation of your likely responses, I will diffuse them now so you can address the real issue of your non-victory victory: 1) Yes, COP has disbanded for now. Our ambition outweighed our determination. 2) One does not to be a "pilot of any consequnce" to be able to read between your lines. I look forward to further massaging in your upcoming wall-of-text update on how you are winning the war...when you are really not. Always the freedon fighter, but never freeing anyone. How romantic the endless struggle against overwhelming odds must be... "To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees." -Vaarun
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.02.07 19:57:00 - [188] Originally by: Vaarun Regardless of your hand-waving, I see you without a system ... Whilst I see a man without a backbone. New Eden is full of tragedy. Join the Revolution!
Vaarun Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2011.02.07 20:28:00 - [189] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Vaarun Regardless of your hand-waving, I see you without a system ... Whilst I see a man without a backbone. New Eden is full of tragedy. I should have made point 2 of your likely combacks to include all personal attacks which still sidestep the issue. By calling out your most-used response, I forced you to "insult B". My fault for not making the parameters more broad. Tangential personal attacks are often your first salvo against criticism. Anything to draw attention away from said criticism. Still, I will assume you are pressed for time as a one sentence reply is uncommon. Get back to me when you have more time. "To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees." -Vaarun
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.02.07 20:41:00 - [190] Perhaps you are right, you deserved a more detailed response. Noting the collapse of your own imperial aspirations I will attempt to spread a little more light. Originally by: Vaarun Regardless of your hand-waving, I see you without a system ... Whilst I see revolution unchained. The difference between how you and I view matters appears a matter of optimism and perspective. New Eden is full of tragedy and unfortunate circumstance after all. Yet your argument appears to be since 0.0 is rich it is pointless to shoot pilots affiliated with 0.0 regimes to make a point. One wonders how you would have responded to the charge that since the Matari republic is rich it is pointless for your militia to engage its enemies? But it is a flawed and weakling point at best. No conflict is truly meaningless. All action and gesture has moment. 0.0 is rich and territorial conceit largely unchallenged because of the fear and trepidation in the hearts of men like you. You imagine the wealth of nullsec moons and mass industry renders the imperial body politic invulnerable but it is not so. An empire (any empire) is built on pride and terror. The pride of the hierarch and the terror of its subjects. It is beyond imagining that individuals might challenge the collective - how dare they? But history teaches us otherwise. Individuals do challenge the collective and they do win. Because after all, what is lost when the guerilla fails a battle, or loses a skirmish? Nothing much, after all, the empire is meant to win. But when the empire loses a fight? When the combat elite of the territorial empires are humbled? When the awsome power of thousands of capsuleer legionaries is mocked by the bravery and war-arts of a bold few. That is when empires crumble at their foundation because they cannot afford to lose the precious currency of pride itself. Pride is worth more than isk to the territorial warlord, pride is the knife we twist into his ribs, pride is the acid we spill upon his bones and broken pride is the poison boiling in the lungs and stomach of the wounded giant. How many giants have the fraction outlived Vaarun? Countless. Because we challenge them to defend their individual pilots against our guerilla-arts and never yet have they managed it. Individuals of worth see this and break away, learning to make their own decisions and count on their own talent and power alone to ensure their safety and prosperity and this is how the war is won. Join the Revolution!

Vaarun Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2011.02.07 21:48:00 - [191] Originally by: Jade Constantine How many giants have the fraction outlived Vaarun? Countless. Because we challenge them to defend their individual pilots against our guerilla-arts and never yet have they managed it. Individuals of worth see this and break away, learning to make their own decisions and count on their own talent and power alone to ensure their safety and prosperity and this is how the war is won. I...I must concede this point, Jade. I can have issues with your presentation, but as I am fond of absolute values, I cannot argue with this. Star Fraction has endured for a long time when so many others have faded, faltered, or share only a name with those who started their corporation or Alliance. I myself am not an absolute when faced with a valid agrument, and you have certainly given me pause. Honestly, your last post certainly held more truth than your update and I am sincerely impressed you have the insight to quantify what you have done and are doing. Furthermore, due to the fact that I am back-handedly complimenting you, my world seems a bit topsy-turvy at the moment. Well played. Fly safe. "To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees." -Vaarun
Silas Vitalia Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2011.02.07 22:37:00 - [192] Originally by: Vaarun I...I must concede this point, Jade. Well played. Fly safe. Silas does a double-take and nearly spits out her wine Pull yourself together man! Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
Calfis Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.02.07 22:47:00 - [193] Originally by: Jade Constantine How many giants have the fraction outlived Vaarun? Countless. Because we challenge them to defend their individual pilots against our guerilla-arts and never yet have they managed it. Individuals of worth see this and break away, learning to make their own decisions and count on their own talent and power alone to ensure their safety and prosperity and this is how the war is won. Those who burn brightest burn fastest
Revan Neferis Amarr Propaganda Due	Posted - 2011.02.07 22:52:00 - [194] Originally by: Silas Vitalia Originally by: Vaarun I...I must concede this point, Jade. Well played. Fly safe. Silas does a double-take and nearly spits out her wine Pull yourself together man! I think he just did that. Your turn. RN Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
Aphoxema G Operation Inertia	Posted - 2011.02.08 00:11:00 - [195] Originally by: Vaarun Originally by: Jade Constantine How many giants have the fraction outlived Vaarun? Countless. Because we challenge them to defend their individual pilots against our guerilla-arts and never yet have they managed it. Individuals of worth see this and break away, learning to make their own decisions and count on their own talent and power alone to ensure their safety and prosperity and this is how the war is won. I...I must concede this point, Jade. I can have issues with your presentation, but as I am fond of absolute values, I cannot argue with this. Star Fraction has endured for a long time when so many others have faded, faltered, or share only a name with those who started their corporation or Alliance. Star Fraction keeps a tentative definition of procedure and success. They may not always meet their goals, they may even fail entirely, but their existence doesn't rely on living up to claims. What keeps them alive isn't blind faith or memes that can only manifest when thousands of idiots collectively learn to breathe and walk at the same time. It's not such generic things as nobility or chivalry. Some things Jade has said or done made me (literally) find a quiet place and immediately bang my face against a wall. When I was in Star Fraction, both times, I felt overwhelmed by people that had much more solidarity than I did. I misinterpreted a lot of what I'd seen as cronyism. Star Fraction exists, despite so much interference, because those who've stayed and those who've left all contributed to a common will for the betterment of the entity that is Star Fraction. It is such a healthy organization because it is composed of healthy individuals. Sometimes this gets confused with magnificence but magnificence erodes with time. The power that Star Fraction holds is individuality. They are not dependent on nations or promises. You can cut its damned legs off and it'll still find a way to walk. You can hack off its hands but it will still be able to wring the neck of those it confronts. You can sever its head but it will still speak and think. Even after Star Fraction is eliminated or simply falls into itself, it will be remembered for centuries for relying on nothing more than commerce and cooperation. ------------------------------- The fox chases for her meal, but the rabbit runs for her life.
Vaarun Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2011.02.08 02:31:00 - [196] Edited by: Vaarun on 08/02/2011 02:33:10 Originally by: Silas Vitalia Originally by: Vaarun I...I must concede this point, Jade. Well played. Fly safe. Silas does a double-take and nearly spits out her wine Pull yourself together man! Fear not, my sister, I am quite "together". I was simply taken aback by harsh truths coming from Jade which I could not refute...and agree with...if in nothing more than principle and tactics. I am still at odds with the skew her initial post, but I cannot dispute Star Fraction's longevity nor rationale. The attentions of many capsuleers are ephemeral, often jumping from causes to corps to inactivity, back and forth, in the span of a week. I have to admit, that knowing the temperament of a wide swath of capsuleers, SF's tactics are sound. I have used versions of that tactic myself, but never considered Star Fraction would even be cognizent of them and sought to capitalize upon them. I thought they simply moved to make themselves unwelcome in all areas of the galaxy, but their agenda is being served by their actions and the fact that I did not see that has made me uneasy and questioning myself why I did not see that before. I have to give credit where credit is due, even from one I am essentially diametrically opposed to. So, fear not Silas, I am quite sound...even moreso than before, in fact. However, I will still look forward to the final "massaging" of the numbers from them regarding their war with the Ewoks. "To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees." -Vaarun
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.02.08 12:43:00 - [197] Edited by: Lyn Farel on 08/02/2011 12:43:10 It is just PR and wealth, lord Varuun, which keep them alive. Originally by: Aphoxema G What keeps them alive isn't blind faith or memes that can only manifest when thousands of idiots collectively learn to breathe and walk at the same time. Actually I find the clueless people getting caugh in the SF PR nets fit quite well this definition. Besides that, I agree on the rest of what you said.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.02.08 19:35:00 - [198] I can see why it will comfort you to believe that Lyn Farel. But the reality is that many many capsuleers have access to ôPR and wealthö, those are hardly rare possessions in this universe after all. But it is easy to tell oneself that an enemy succeeds only because he or she is better provisioned, better prepared, luckier in news, in reputation, any one of an thousand reasons why your own righteous cause is failing. But so much harder to look at a thing honestly and see the truth. I have the wealth I need Lyn Farel, but wealth doesnÆt keep my heart beating. The Free Captains are rarely rich; all of us could make more isk, greater fortunes, and more comfortable income in easier ways after all. The cluster has a myriad ways to reward the risk-averse. Even your own corporation in the Knighthood has access to better sources of isk than we do. It is well known that Militia agent missions represent the easiest isk income of all, subsidized by an empire desperate to ensure the fealty of pilots addicted to sucking at the teat of loyalty points and discount items. And ôPRö? Public relations, the packaging of corporate messages for popular regurgitation by news media. DonÆt we all use these arts? IsnÆt that why we are both recording messages on the summit after all? But does the desire to explain oneÆs actions and motives render them false and void? Is the act of telling ideals and philosophy corrosive to the ideal itself? I wonder if you prefer solipsism to communication in the final analysis? It is true we have different opinions and we fight for different things. I after all, believe that the hierarchy of empires and collectivist subversion of individual capability is detrimental to the human condition whereas you believe that submission to a greater authority in all is the perfect state of existence, but can we not debate the ideals themselves without the gut-reactive spasm to attack the medium rather than the message? ôClueless peopleö in a ôPR Netö. It would be so easy for me to dismiss your whole existence and individual nature in a sentence and respond with an idiot (but entirely appropriate) ôno youö but doing so would allow your ôPRö preference to dictate the terms of the interaction so I demur. (my choice as a sovereign individual) I prefer to debate with a person rather than a reactive meme-system Lyn Farel. We have eternity you and I to fight the war of ideals û take your time but do return when you are prepared to reach past the banal and address the essence of our dispute. Join the Revolution!
Aryanna Ta'Lone Amarr 21st Eridani Lighthorse	Posted - 2011.02.08 22:17:00 - [199] Edited by: Aryanna Ta''Lone on 09/02/2011 16:03:08 deleted by user
Revan Neferis Amarr Propaganda Due	Posted - 2011.02.08 22:35:00 - [200] Originally by: Aryanna Ta'Lone Originally by: Jade Constantine You are so cool...ummm, and pretty too...I'm just sayin', I dont mean anything by it or...hells. Expect war to your entire corporation and those who ever I see associated with you in 24 hours if your words aren't retracted. And consider that I'm giving 24 hours only because of Syn. RN Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Instinctively you come to me, cause your an addict and you'll have it. You don't want to be free.

Aphoxema G Operation Inertia	Posted - 2011.02.08 23:06:00 - [201] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Aryanna Ta'Lone Originally by: Jade Constantine You are so cool...ummm, and pretty too...I'm just sayin', I dont mean anything by it or...hells. Expect war to your entire corporation and those who ever I see associated with you in 24 hours if your words aren't retracted. And consider that I'm giving 24 hours only because of Syn. RN Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Now, now... don't declare a war on a cat for just having the audacity to purr. ------------------------------- The fox chases for her meal, but the rabbit runs for her life.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.02.08 23:23:00 - [202] Originally by: Aryanna Ta'Lone Ms. Constantine...how does one become a "free" captain exactly? The irony is that most people start out being Free Captains but end up giving their freedom away to territorial powers, to mining overseers, to national militias, to religion, to convention and hierarchy. There is nothing special about the Free Captains of the Star Fraction except we have decided to maintain and assert our freedom and take arms to its defense. Quote: You are so cool...ummm, and pretty too...I'm just sayin', I dont mean anything by it or...hells. I think you would do well to stick to simple enquiries and questions and the like on the summit for now. Incautious words to the lovers of notorious revolutionaries AND sani sabik heretics can have bad results if not followed by dignified and immediate retraction. I truly have scant need for the stumbling compliments of novice capsuleers pilot Ta'Lone. Join the Revolution!
Silas Vitalia Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium	Posted - 2011.02.08 23:38:00 - [203] Originally by: Jade Constantine I truly have scant need for the stumbling compliments of novice capsuleers pilot Ta'Lone. Nonsense! I think your entire cult of personality is singularly fueled by sycophantic appraisals of your character. Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.02.08 23:41:00 - [204] Originally by: Silas Vitalia Originally by: Jade Constantine I truly have scant need for the stumbling compliments of novice capsuleers pilot Ta'Lone. Nonsense! I think your entire cult of personality is singularly fueled by sycophantic appraisals of your character. grins If you weren't such a walking grotesquery in the makeup department I'd be inclined to take that to heart Join the Revolution!
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.02.09 00:26:00 - [205] Edited by: Lyn Farel on 09/02/2011 00:26:26 Originally by: Jade Constantine I can see why it will comfort you to believe that Lyn Farel. But the reality is that many many capsuleers have access to ôPR and wealthö, those are hardly rare possessions in this universe after all. But it is easy to tell oneself that an enemy succeeds only because he or she is better provisioned, better prepared, luckier in news, in reputation, any one of an thousand reasons why your own righteous cause is failing. But so much harder to look at a thing honestly and see the truth. I have the wealth I need Lyn Farel, but wealth doesnÆt keep my heart beating. The Free Captains are rarely rich; all of us could make more isk, greater fortunes, and more comfortable income in easier ways after all. The cluster has a myriad ways to reward the risk-averse. Even your own corporation in the Knighthood has access to better sources of isk than we do. It is well known that Militia agent missions represent the easiest isk income of all, subsidized by an empire desperate to ensure the fealty of pilots addicted to sucking at the teat of loyalty points and discount items. And ôPRö? Public relations, the packaging of corporate messages for popular regurgitation by news media. DonÆt we all use these arts? IsnÆt that why we are both recording messages on the summit after all? But does the desire to explain oneÆs actions and motives render them false and void? Is the act of telling ideals and philosophy corrosive to the ideal itself? I wonder if you prefer solipsism to communication in the final analysis? It is true we have different opinions and we fight for different things. I after all, believe that the hierarchy of empires and collectivist subversion of individual capability is detrimental to the human condition whereas you believe that submission to a greater authority in all is the perfect state of existence, but can we not debate the ideals themselves without the gut-reactive spasm to attack the medium rather than the message? ôClueless peopleö in a ôPR Netö. It would be so easy for me to dismiss your whole existence and individual nature in a sentence and respond with an idiot (but entirely appropriate) ôno youö but doing so would allow your ôPRö preference to dictate the terms of the interaction so I demur. (my choice as a sovereign individual) I prefer to debate with a person rather than a reactive meme-system Lyn Farel. We have eternity you and I to fight the war of ideals û take your time but do return when you are prepared to reach past the banal and address the essence of our dispute. All this populist wooden language to tell me that ? You will definitly never change. Do not assume with too much haste that people answer like clueless idiots when they actually keep themselves to concise words and are not drowning themselves in their own sophisms. The fact I was not explaining and detailing my thoughts in a whole self centered novel was merely due to the fact I was adressing to lord Varuun, actually, who probably know what I meant. But I must concede it was vague and generalizing, and not concise at all, though. Anyway, now that you seem to look for a serious debate (Over what ? What keeps SF alive ? What is better between an absolute greater authority and anarchy ?), I am at your disposal, even if I doubt something will come out of such a thing. I prefer to debate with a person, rather than a condescending stating-the-obvious-system, Jade Constantine.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.02.09 00:33:00 - [206] Originally by: Lyn Farel Anyway, now that you seem to look for a serious debate (Over what ? What keeps SF alive ? How about we start with what keeps your faith alive? What do you stand for Lyn Farel and why do you think it superior? Join the Revolution!
Revan Neferis Amarr Propaganda Due	Posted - 2011.02.09 02:37:00 - [207] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 09/02/2011 02:37:52 Originally by: Revan Neferis Expect war to your entire corporation and those who ever I see associated with you in 24 hours if your words aren't retracted. And consider that I'm giving 24 hours only because of Syn. RN Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik I have received this by private comms and I have been requested by the part involved to make it public, as she seem to be having issues of connectivity IGS related tonight. Apology and withdraw From: Aryanna Ta'Lone Sent: 2011.02.09 02:15 To: Revan Neferis, Dread Lady Neferis I meant no insult to you or Ms. Constantine, my post was intended to be respectful and polite. Since so many people are cruel and say harsh hurtful things to Ms. Constantine I thought it would be polite and considerate to offer someting positive. I am sorry if this caused you and Ms. Constantine any distress and will retract any disrepectful mention that I have made unknowingly. I would respectfully ask that you reconsider declaring a war on my mother and friends for what is my error alone...a harsh lesson has been learned about my place in the scheme of things. I have learned it well. I would offer my life to you if it will appease your anger and protect my mother and friends, please let me know if this is required to correct this error on my part. Respectfully yours, Aryanna Ta'Lone --- Apology accepted. I'll withdraw the war votes. RN Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Instinctively you come to me, cause your an addict and you'll have it. You don't want to be free.
Koronakesh Amarr Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.02.09 03:09:00 - [208] Originally by: Revan Neferis I would offer my life to you if it will appease your anger and protect my mother and friends, please let me know if this is required to correct this error on my part. Respectfully yours, Aryanna Ta'Lone --- Apology accepted. I'll withdraw the war votes. RN Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Can't we invite her to the Opera and kill her? She could provide entertainment as well as apology.
Revan Neferis Amarr Propaganda Due	Posted - 2011.02.09 03:20:00 - [209] Originally by: Koronakesh Can't we invite her to the Opera and kill her? She could provide entertainment as well as apology. A shame that i haven't read this before. But as we speak, I have already collected her mother's corpse in sacrifice. I tend to act fast upon such matters. But the idea of a sacrifice for our entertainment at the Opera... appeals me greatly. I'm sure that we will find another "candidate" to amuse us very soon. Now that my matters here are solved, let's leave my lover's thread to matters of her attention. RN Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Instinctively you come to me, cause your an addict and you'll have it. You don't want to be free.
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.02.09 13:18:00 - [210] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Lyn Farel Anyway, now that you seem to look for a serious debate (Over what ? What keeps SF alive ? How about we start with what keeps your faith alive? What do you stand for Lyn Farel and why do you think it superior? No, I am not falling for that. This is another debate.



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