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Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
27
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:34:00 -
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Almost always when newer players ask for advice about going to low-null, the advice is use a scout alt (or similar).
I used to have 3 paid accounts but since I lost my job I've had to juggle finances so I only have one account, which got me thinking as to whether the game could be played with only one account per player, rather than some people multi-boxing (my CEO has 9 active accounts, all online at the same time!). I know things would be less convenient - for example heading back to a station to change ships can be a pain I know, but I wonder if restricting players to single accounts would level the playing field a bit?
Would only having a single character actually spoil the game for you, or would it in fact increase the enjoyment? Help me decide, so that when/if I get another job, I can decide whether to re-sub at least one of my dormant accounts! |

00wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwww
cuties4life
0
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:35:00 -
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What's a toon? |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8913
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:37:00 -
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Sure it could.
It would just be impossible to enforce. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Cadfael Maelgwyn
Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden
39
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:41:00 -
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I've always been a one-character kind of player.
I don't think it would be all that entertaining having more than one.
Besides, my laptop would probably explode if I tried. |

Serena Serene
The Scope Gallente Federation
2487
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:44:00 -
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I play with only one account, and aside from looking at the market around Jita every now and then with another same-account character I only use this one. Well, I don't play for long so far, but I plan to use only one character in the future, too. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1614
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:48:00 -
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lots of people play with only one account/character
i'm not one of them, but it's certainly doable EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |

Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
69
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:57:00 -
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Having multiple accounts gives a player a tremendous edge, in particular if you diversify the character skilling and get involved in a number of "projects" at once. I can honestly say that I make about 10 times more ISK with 2 accounts than I would with 1 account on a daily basis. The applications of having a second account go far beyond scout alts.
As such anyone playing with one account is technically at a disadvantage comapred to someone playing with 2 or more accounts, that is an undeniable fact.
I personally would love to see some sort of enforcements of single accounts but from a technology perspective its simply not possible. So its mute to discuss it, but I do believe the game would be much better. |

Carlton Foster
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:00:00 -
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Eve Online is an MMO-RTS. Would you want to play Age of Empires with a single villager?
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Cadfael Maelgwyn
Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden
39
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:01:00 -
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Carlton Foster wrote:Eve Online is an MMO-RTS. Would you want to play Age of Empires with a single villager?
I tried once.
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Sephira Galamore
Nemesis Holdings Corp Luna Sanguinem
24
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:02:00 -
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I have managed quite well so far with only one account. I have mates with alts tho and agree that is often is a nice convenience. When none in our group had alts, we either had no booster or someone would have to stay alone in a safe spot to do the boring job, whether in PvP or PvE. Scouting... is something I have done for friends occasionally even without having an alt, so don't see much of an issue here.
Likely the only reason I would get an alt is to let him permanently sit in a capital ship. |
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Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:03:00 -
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The average is 1.2 accounts per player. So more play with 1 account than those that have more than 1. Consider that many that have more, have 3+ accounts then to have an average of 1.2 most players have only 1 account. Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |

DrSmegma
Smegma United Asgard Supplies and Logistics
68
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:04:00 -
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huh what I don't really want to troll you. If I trolled you anyway, I'll probably edit it out as soon as the rage fades. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8914
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:05:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:The average is 1.2 accounts per player. Source?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Caitlyn Tufy
Refuge of Hope Lemniskate
27
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:07:00 -
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One account = hard mode, two accounts = normal mode, three or more accounts = easy mode.
And they say MMOs don't have difficulty levels :D |

Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
139
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:09:00 -
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Hestia Mar wrote:Would only having a single character actually spoil the game for you, Yes.
Having multiple accounts is a good way to experience different aspects of the game, flying different ships etc. within a reasonable timeframe, for those of us who have not been in the game since 2003 or 2005.
For example, after a year of playing EVE I had one character who was really good at flying battlecruisers and battleships and a second character who was very good at electronic warfare, scanning, logistics and recon ships. To have the same abilities with only one character I'd have needed a lot more time. The Invulnerability Sphere:Make mining/industrial vessels defendable, better fights for everyone! |

Eternus8lux8lucis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:11:00 -
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Yeah getting stuck with the boring duties would suck badly if you only had one account. Ill second the scalability of multiple accounts in terms of isk generation over multiple avenues. Some suit themselves better to more accounts while some less. I know Id be bored out of my tree if I had to only run one account now.
Its not something enforceable and I though I think even from an RP perspective itd add a huge volume of depth and accountability to a person its just not feasible to do. Thered be no more scamming alts, pirating would be the only thing you could do and sec status would mean something again as well as a LOT of other things. What would be lost instantly are spies and corporate espionage as a whole with API requirements as well as cyno alts for capital toons. So tbh a vast majority of the nefarious actions that CCP encourages would be broken right off the bat if they could enforce it somehow. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
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Nirnias Stirrum
Insidious Design
266
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:11:00 -
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I played Eve for years with just 1 char. It was only last year i decided to get a second one. And then 4 months ago to get a third char (but the third char is solely to train and sell him).
So yes it is possible. |

Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:The average is 1.2 accounts per player. Source?
An eve survey listed that in the eve data base. Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |

Bobo Cindekela
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:15:00 -
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Hestia Mar wrote:Almost always when young people ask for advice about growing up, the advice is to get a job.
I used to have a 3 jobs, but since I lost some of my jobs I've had to juggle finances cos I dont even have one job, which got me thinking as to whether life could be lived with only one job per person, rather than some people having more than one job. I know things would be less convenient - for example affording food and any luxury at all, but I wonder if restricting people to single job would level the playing field a bit?
Would only having a single job actually spoil life for you, or would it in fact increase the enjoyment? Help me decide, so that when/if I get another job, I can decide whether to buy Mcdonalds or keep eating off other peoples plates at restaraunts..
FIXT THAT 4U
requesting the internet to advice you one some personal **** while complaining about your inability to decide what course your life should take by yourself will always get a laugh from me.
thank god CCP runs on money, your idea/suggestion/debate is nothing more than infantile mewlings compared to the allmighty currency.
You are about to engage in an arguement with a forum alt,-á this is your final warning. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
971
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:17:00 -
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Could it be played with one character per player? Yes.
Would having one character ruin it for me? No.
Would it increase my enjoyment? No.
Should you have an alt account? Yes.
Eve is designed around having multiple accounts. They encourage you to have alts. Several things require more than one account to accomplish. Choosing not to have an alt account on any sort of basis of principles or rules from other games is pretty dumb. Those principles and rules don't apply to Eve, why handicap yourself?
Here's your sign... |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8916
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:19:00 -
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Herr Hammer Draken wrote:An eve survey listed that in the eve data base. Do you have a link to it? If they finally got their thumbs out and tried to produce some kind of real stat, that would be sweet. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
91
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:37:00 -
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It really depends what you are doing and your play style. If you are a hi sec ission runners there is no need for multi-accounts at all (except greed ofc). Even if you are a 0.0 pvper though its perfectly possible to run with 1 account as you are usually in fleets (no scout needed) and can get things like cynos off your corp mates. It does limit what you can do when though.
On the other hand with isk so easy to make and subs payable through isk via plex there is no real reason for rl financial trouble to drop people down to one acc once the have been in game a while. |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
799
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Herr Hammer Draken wrote:An eve survey listed that in the eve data base. Do you have a link to it? If they finally got their thumbs out and tried to produce some kind of real stat, that would be sweet.
I am pretty sure that was about number of characters per account, not number of accounts per person. |

Archdaimon
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
75
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Posted - 2012.08.07 11:58:00 -
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I don't not believe that 1.2 holds true to current eve population.
Most of those I know in wh space have 2+ accounts often more. And even in Hi sec several of the people I know have 2+ accounts.
A realistic average would be 1.9 or 2 something along those lines. |

Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
81
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Posted - 2012.08.07 12:27:00 -
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Most people with multiple accounts do so for industrial reasons. Or a "cyno alt" or a "hauler alt" etc.
The vast majority can't really play them "at the same time" outside of mining or industrial reasons. People playing their accounts at the same time in PvP (and being effective) is a rare breed and not the majority. |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
904
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Posted - 2012.08.07 12:35:00 -
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Why does it matter if people play 1 character or 10? Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8917
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Posted - 2012.08.07 13:00:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:I am pretty sure that was about number of characters per account, not number of accounts per person. That's what I would guess too, but it would be really nice to actually have something on accounts per player as well. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
22
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Posted - 2012.08.07 13:07:00 -
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I only use one account, but two characters on it. I used that other character as a CEO placeholder at one time, and I'm considering doing PI with it to increase ISK income. I haven't done so yet, but it seems a good use of those 2 slots you get anyway. While skill training is paused on that second char, I bet PI projects will run passively just fine. |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
348
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Posted - 2012.08.07 13:10:00 -
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Kryss Darkdust wrote:Having multiple accounts gives a player a tremendous edge, in particular if you diversify the character skilling and get involved in a number of "projects" at once. I can honestly say that I make about 10 times more ISK with 2 accounts than I would with 1 account on a daily basis. The applications of having a second account go far beyond scout alts. .
Not entirely correct. I made more with 2 accounts then a lot of people with 3 , 4 or even 7 accounts.Currently i have 4 accounts and make less then when i only had 2 accounts 2 years ago , it depends what the characters on the account are for and what you are doing in general as a way of income.
You can make as much isk with 1 account as with multiple depending on how you make your isk.Having a 2nd account just makes it a bit easier in certain areas.
Cyno alt , scout alt , trade alt to be able to compare 2 regions at the same time etc.But saying the more accounts you have the more isk you by definition make is totally wrong. |

Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2012.08.07 13:13:00 -
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00wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwww wrote:What's a toon?
You're a toon. Have no disillusion.
Short of a six month period total, I have always had one account since I started playing four years ago. Sure, I could get another account, but why? Eve is hard, and everytime I played with more than one, I felt as though I were taking sweets from a child. A fool I may be, but I still believe in the whole actions and consequences nature of this game. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
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Hammer Borne
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2012.08.07 13:40:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Kryss Darkdust wrote:Having multiple accounts gives a player a tremendous edge, in particular if you diversify the character skilling and get involved in a number of "projects" at once. I can honestly say that I make about 10 times more ISK with 2 accounts than I would with 1 account on a daily basis. The applications of having a second account go far beyond scout alts. . Not entirely correct. I made more with 2 accounts then a lot of people with 3 , 4 or even 7 accounts.Currently i have 4 accounts and make less then when i only had 2 accounts 2 years ago , it depends what the characters on the account are for and what you are doing in general as a way of income. You can make as much isk with 1 account as with multiple depending on how you make your isk.Having a 2nd account just makes it a bit easier in certain areas. Cyno alt , scout alt , trade alt to be able to compare 2 regions at the same time etc.But saying the more accounts you have the more isk you by definition make is totally wrong.
The post you quoted was entirely correct. You confused it and took it to an extreme. 2 accounts = more safety (scout), more isk (mining, hauling, missions, whatever). It is undeniable. Sure, there is a point at which more accounts may not equate more isk, but that wasnt the original point you quoted and took to an extreme. |

Thronde
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.08.07 15:56:00 -
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8 years, (mostly) 1 account/character.
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Steel Wraith
53
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Posted - 2012.08.07 16:24:00 -
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Since returning to the game and creating this character/account in mid '09, I've played with a single character on a signle account and have enjoyed it very much. I'm of the opinion that we'd be playing a better game if everyone was limited to a single character but I understand that this is an unrealistic, likely minority dream.
The main benefit I've seen is that the game is more immersive with just one character as you can assume your character's identity more readily. A side benefit, or perhaps a con depending on your preference, is that you experience the various aspects of the game more slowly as you are skill-point limited. Take my opinion with a grain of salt as much of my time since character creation, although always subbed, has been spent away from game and not in active player corps.
Another benefit - Players must rely on other players instead of having swarms of single-minded hulks.
Some cons:
- Specialization is more costly - must generalize so that you can still accomplish things by your lonesome.
- Some things can't really be done by yourself, such as wormholes, so to experience parts of the game you must work with other players.
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Boseo
Azure Horizon
68
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Posted - 2012.08.07 16:47:00 -
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I have also only ever played with one account, some of this is in part to not having the finance to pay for 2 accounts (before plex was traded in game) and then it was due to lack of gaming time because of pesky RL. But it was fun, and makes you look for different ways of doing things.
When I finally get time to come back, I may get a second account though.
Sorry but file Gǣforumsig.GIFGǥ is currently unavailable please come back laterGǪGǪ like in a year or so.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1251
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Posted - 2012.08.07 16:52:00 -
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Steel Wraith wrote:Another benefit - Players must rely on other players instead of having swarms of single-minded hulks. Whoa whoa, you mean blobbing ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Cpt Arareb
Ideal Machine Academy
32
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Posted - 2012.08.07 16:56:00 -
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only cpt arareb here,and, I have fun |

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1612
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:06:00 -
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As long as they force me to have alts only to use this gay Cyno mechanic to prevent rifters-online from becomming jumpdrives online.... no. |

Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1304
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:13:00 -
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Nearly 4 years in and still a one man show. Played a bit in low and null alone too :D The Drake is a Lie |

Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition VORTEX RISING
185
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:17:00 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Yeah getting stuck with the boring duties would suck badly if you only had one account. Ill second the scalability of multiple accounts in terms of isk generation over multiple avenues. Some suit themselves better to more accounts while some less. I know Id be bored out of my tree if I had to only run one account now.
Its not something enforceable and I though I think even from an RP perspective itd add a huge volume of depth and accountability to a person its just not feasible to do. Thered be no more scamming alts, pirating would be the only thing you could do and sec status would mean something again as well as a LOT of other things. What would be lost instantly are spies and corporate espionage as a whole with API requirements as well as cyno alts for capital toons. So tbh a vast majority of the nefarious actions that CCP encourages would be broken right off the bat if they could enforce it somehow.
Player turnover would be higher as youd be stuck in your character more and a bad decision, like real life, would follow you around forever. So someone just out for the lolz of something wouldnt stick around after the funny aspect has worn off and they cant do anything with the toon for whatever reason and being locked out of content due to actions in game.
Hardly, it just means that pirates, Awoxers, scammers and that would gain a reputation. |

Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
139
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:23:00 -
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lol at all these people in here who don't have friends and have to use alts how does it suck playing alone in this vast universe? |
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Omega Sunset
Caldari Roughnecks
27
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:36:00 -
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Depends your play style. 15 years or so of scout/ranger/assassin type (whatsa toooon?) chars, you guess how many accounts I need. Yeeees, pref hard mode ;) |

XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution
3
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Sure it could.
It would just be impossible to enforce.
There is a restriction in place that prevents a trial account and subscribed account from being logged on at the same time on the same pc. They could easily extend that to subscribed accounts. However, CCP is in the business to make money. So don't hold your breath waiting or hoping for such a restriction to come about. The more active accounts there are the more money CCP makes, aside from the ones who plex their accounts in game.
The only multiboxing advantage I believe should be restricted in some way is neutral RR.
Alt scouting I'm ok with, and if you can successfully pvp with two combat toonsthen more power to you. Micro managing multiple screens in a fight can get hairy. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8924
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:47:00 -
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XxRTEKxX wrote:There is a restriction in place that prevents a trial account and subscribed account from being logged on at the same time on the same pc. They could easily extend that to subscribed accounts. I don't know about you, but I have four devices able to play EVE in this room aloneGǪ
GǪso even if they tried to cut down on multiboxing (which they wouldn't for the reasons you list), they still wouldn't be able to enforce one character per player: it would have to be one character per IP, which would restrict multi-player households and any other networked with a shared external address (and which would only inconvenience people in networks who want to play without actually stopping those who want to run multiple charactersGǪ so we're back to square one). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution
3
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:XxRTEKxX wrote:There is a restriction in place that prevents a trial account and subscribed account from being logged on at the same time on the same pc. They could easily extend that to subscribed accounts. I don't know about you, but I have four devices able to play EVE in this room aloneGǪ GǪso even if they tried to cut down on multiboxing (which they wouldn't for the reasons you list), they still wouldn't be able to enforce one character per player: it would have to be one character per IP, which would restrict multi-player households and any other networked with a shared external address (and which would only inconvenience people in networks who want to play without actually stopping those who want to run multiple charactersGǪ so we're back to square one).
Yeah it would have to be ip restrictive. |

Alexzandvar Douglass
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
74
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:43:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:lol at all these people in here who don't have friends and have to use alts how does it suck playing alone in this vast universe?
I apologize for my fellow Alliance members language.
I have 2 Accounts one for Indy and one for PvP and PvE |

Roc Wieler
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
181
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:43:00 -
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There is only Roc Wieler. I don't think this universe could handle more of me.  Never start a fight you can win.
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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
127
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Posted - 2012.08.07 20:19:00 -
[47] - Quote
been playing EVE for 7 years one this one character, never had any problems doing anything, all ya need is friends. |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
435
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Posted - 2012.08.07 20:37:00 -
[48] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Sure it could.
It would just be impossible to enforce.
This, cost will overrule practicality. And just like any laws. They keep the honest people honest but if someone really wants to break the rules they will. So who really would get punished for such a rule.
EVERYBODY KNOWS |

Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
171
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Posted - 2012.08.07 20:42:00 -
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I'm a one character kind of guy. I made a second account and can hardly bring myself to play it. I'll probably get rid of if soon in fact.
I find it much more fun, immersive and interesting to play on 1 character. Sure, I actually need friends to do certain things, but to me, it is a small price to pay for the unique experience of having my character represent 'me' in this galaxy. No other game that I have played comes this close to that feeling. I personally believe Eve would be a much better game if it were somehow possible to limit things to 1 character per person. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
75

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Posted - 2012.08.07 20:52:00 -
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Troll posts removed, please remember to post responsibly folks - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Pankas Carter
Viziam Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2012.08.07 20:56:00 -
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Maxpie wrote:I'm a one character kind of guy. I made a second account and can hardly bring myself to play it. I'll probably get rid of if soon in fact.
I find it much more fun, immersive and interesting to play on 1 character. Sure, I actually need friends to do certain things, but to me, it is a small price to pay for the unique experience of having my character represent 'me' in this galaxy. No other game that I have played comes this close to that feeling. I personally believe Eve would be a much better game if it were somehow possible to limit things to 1 character per person.
Agreed.
All these tactics of using alts for things is cheating, IMO.
You can't be in more than one place at once. Why should your avatar? Adama: Starbuck, what do you hear? Starbuck: Nothing but the rain. Adama: Then grab your gun and bring in the cat. |

Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
60
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Posted - 2012.08.07 21:51:00 -
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Pankas Carter wrote:Maxpie wrote:I'm a one character kind of guy. I made a second account and can hardly bring myself to play it. I'll probably get rid of if soon in fact.
I find it much more fun, immersive and interesting to play on 1 character. Sure, I actually need friends to do certain things, but to me, it is a small price to pay for the unique experience of having my character represent 'me' in this galaxy. No other game that I have played comes this close to that feeling. I personally believe Eve would be a much better game if it were somehow possible to limit things to 1 character per person. Agreed. All these tactics of using alts for things is cheating, IMO. You can't be in more than one place at once. Why should your avatar? I don't think it's cheating - that's my own opinion, obviously. If you have two avatars, well, then obviously you can be in two places at once. It's just kind of spurious to say you can only control one because that's how it is in real life. In real life, you die and you're dead. You can't respawn from a clone.
I've never been a single toon kind of person - I enjoy many aspects of games and typically the only way to do that is to have several toons.
Eve isn't really an exception because while you can train everything on one toon, it's harder to enjoy two different playstyles simultaneously on the same toon because of the skill time. I'm not saying the skill time is bad! I just think it makes it easier to say have an industry toon on one account and a missioner, say, on another.
I don't think it's any different or "cheating" to have extra accounts to do things like scouting /me shrugs. It's a paid for account supporting the game, and as long as it's not a RMT or something like that, I'm fine with it.
Anyway just my two cents.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1252
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Posted - 2012.08.07 21:56:00 -
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Korsiri wrote:Pankas Carter wrote:All these tactics of using alts for things is cheating, IMO.
You can't be in more than one place at once. Why should your avatar? I don't think it's cheating - that's my own opinion, obviously. I think it's CCP's as well. Look at the Power of Two description/"ad" when it comes around again. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
390
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Posted - 2012.08.07 22:20:00 -
[54] - Quote
I bought a second account with the 'power of two' offer earlier this year.
Poor soul is going rusty from lack of use.
My original account is enough for me. You want fries with that? |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2012.08.07 22:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I bought a second account with the 'power of two' offer earlier this year.
Poor soul is going rusty from lack of use.
My original account is enough for me.
I agree. The game is a lot more fun concentrating on one character and interacting with other real players. Two or more accounts tends to make you antisocial and it feels like a job.
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Rented
Hunter Heavy Industries
21
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Posted - 2012.08.07 23:39:00 -
[56] - Quote
I played with one account for a couple years and made a second account merely to free this one from any 'Isk generating duties' so that I may play as fast or slow (most often very slow) as I'd like.
I think EVE could work just fine as a 1-account-per-person game provided there was some redesign done for some features... I've little to no interest in flying supercapitals but I imagine it'd be extremely aggrevating without at least some changes. But as has already been indicated, it's not technically feasible. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1254
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Posted - 2012.08.08 00:04:00 -
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Rented wrote:I played with one account for a couple years and made a second account merely to free this one from any 'Isk generating duties' so that I may play as fast or slow (most often very slow) as I'd like.
I think EVE could work just fine as a 1-account-per-person game provided there was some redesign done for some features... I've little to no interest in flying supercapitals but I imagine it'd be extremely aggrevating without at least some changes. But as has already been indicated, it's not technically feasible. You mean never logging on? Yeah, space coffins are like that sometimes. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
254
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Posted - 2012.08.08 01:48:00 -
[58] - Quote
I roll with one account. The only problem is the lack of independence that comes with having multiple accounts. But at the end of the day you just gotta find people to help you with the parts you'd use alts for. |

Eternus8lux8lucis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2012.08.08 04:40:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Yeah getting stuck with the boring duties would suck badly if you only had one account. Ill second the scalability of multiple accounts in terms of isk generation over multiple avenues. Some suit themselves better to more accounts while some less. I know Id be bored out of my tree if I had to only run one account now.
Its not something enforceable and I though I think even from an RP perspective itd add a huge volume of depth and accountability to a person its just not feasible to do. Thered be no more scamming alts, pirating would be the only thing you could do and sec status would mean something again as well as a LOT of other things. What would be lost instantly are spies and corporate espionage as a whole with API requirements as well as cyno alts for capital toons. So tbh a vast majority of the nefarious actions that CCP encourages would be broken right off the bat if they could enforce it somehow.
Player turnover would be higher as youd be stuck in your character more and a bad decision, like real life, would follow you around forever. So someone just out for the lolz of something wouldnt stick around after the funny aspect has worn off and they cant do anything with the toon for whatever reason and being locked out of content due to actions in game. Hardly, it just means that pirates, Awoxers, scammers and that would gain a reputation. That would be the flip side. But once known your target selection becomes almost null and void. Youd get your one big scam or awox and then youd be history and noone would ever talk to you again or let you join their corp. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
166
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Posted - 2012.08.08 04:52:00 -
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1 account per person would make things interesting, I'd think a ton of services that are easily done by alts more or less removed would add a lot of player niches. but at the same time I'd say a whole bunch of those are also boring as hell.
I'd say I'm at the point where I could probably drop down to one character rather comfortably. and I only really use 2 at a time. I'd probably have to train a few industry skills, I'm pretty proud of my 250 industry sp, but I guess I could live with ruining that. but at the same time I'm not sure I'd want to see it go one account/character only. mulitboxing seems to be here to stay in the mmo world. |
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Abel Merkabah
TIMELINE Industries
91
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:30:00 -
[61] - Quote
One account, but I plan to use all three toons on it eventually. Doing this mostly to keep clone costs down, so after I finish this toons combat training, I can train a second toon in industry and trade. Since I will be using a toon on same account, I don't get a training time increase, so only benefit is combat toon has lower SP total, and industry toon can operate independent of my combat toons sec status.
Basically, multiple characters will allow me to experience more of the game. So I am not against multiple accounts; however, I do think neutral RR and off grid boosting, while claiming to 1v1 are kind of bullshit. But lots of things are kind of bullshit in Eve and that is what makes it beautiful, so I will cope. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |

Ken Sunji
Perkone Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:40:00 -
[62] - Quote
Two of my accounts generate isk to pay for plex for 6 accounts, and 5 out of the 6 work to pay for my terribad PVP habit. Without the 2nd account, there would be no isk on the scale I require.
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Zarnak Wulf
Imperial Outlaws
483
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:41:00 -
[63] - Quote
I started playing around March 2007. In September 2011 I finally caves and created a Hauler alt. I needed it to move ships around the FW battlefield. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1255
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Posted - 2012.08.08 05:43:00 -
[64] - Quote
Abel Merkabah wrote:So I am not against multiple accounts; however, I do think neutral RR and off grid boosting, while claiming to 1v1 are kind of bullshit. But lots of things are kind of bullshit in Eve and that is what makes it beautiful, so I will cope. Yeah, EVE is like that. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Leisen
The Empire of Libria
43
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Posted - 2012.08.08 07:21:00 -
[65] - Quote
As a person who has only one character and skills to fly supers, no it cannot (unfortunately), you have to rely on other people for too many things. Unless missions in hi-sec and pvp in RvB count.
I do train skills rather well though. |

White Walker Chen
Empire Carebears
0
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Posted - 2012.08.08 07:28:00 -
[66] - Quote
i only have one account |

Zera Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2012.08.08 07:29:00 -
[67] - Quote
I honestly can't see one good reason why you wouldn't have atleast 3 characters. Please tell me! |

Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
442
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Posted - 2012.08.08 07:42:00 -
[68] - Quote
Another one account player chiming in. The fact I only play with one character is wholly a personal and aesthetic choice, as I'm big on immersion. Thus far, I've had had an enjoyable time in a small w-space corp, a brief stint in RvB, and pew pewing in FW. The absence of alts has never been an issue for me. Finding a good corp means teamwork takes care of the roles alts would normally play.
Mind, I don't look down at people playing more than one account. The advantages to doing so are undeniable; more power to them. This is just my personal playstyle.
Another thing to note is that I'm perfectly content flying smaller, faster subcap ships. The need for alts is much higher for people who aspire to be cap pilots. |

Zera Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2012.08.08 07:48:00 -
[69] - Quote
Still no good reason to not have 3 characters. |

Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
442
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Posted - 2012.08.08 07:55:00 -
[70] - Quote
People don't need to justify how and why they have fun with internet spaceships. |
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Zera Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2012.08.08 07:58:00 -
[71] - Quote
Shaalira D'arc wrote:People don't need to justify how and why they have fun with internet spaceships.
Nha, I just wonder why you spend 12 USD/Month or so paying for a game you could play for free with almost no effort. |

Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
442
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Posted - 2012.08.08 08:11:00 -
[72] - Quote
Zera Kerrigan wrote:Shaalira D'arc wrote:People don't need to justify how and why they have fun with internet spaceships. Nha, I just wonder why you spend 12 USD/Month or so paying for a game you could play for free with almost no effort.
Making silly billions of isk is pretty easy, even with one character. Anyone who watches the market hubs can tell you that.
I think you're just in this thread to feel superior to people. Which, admittedly, is a common phenomenon amongst posters. |

Zera Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2012.08.08 08:14:00 -
[73] - Quote
Ofcourse I am. I just want to simply point out how easy it is to either have a trading alt or a PI alt and get alot of extra ISK to play with. |

Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
78
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Posted - 2012.08.08 08:55:00 -
[74] - Quote
I only have one account, with two characters. Darius, and an untrained one sitting in Jita for those time I need to check a price NOW.
I've thought about getting another couple of accounts, but honestly, I find multiboxing annoying.
I admit that having a pet scout or miner/indy/trade alt sounds very convenient, but the fact that I have so little time to play discourages me from investing time in playing other toons.
So, I rely on having a weird set of skills that allow me to do practically anything in a half-assed fashion (I can pilot a Hulk, do bomber runs, trade a bit, manufacture things at a minuscule profit, run Lvl 4 missions proficiently, scan quite well and tackle at 107Km with a bonused Arazu, among many other things) while at the same time relying on friends for everything that cannot be done alone.
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Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
28
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Posted - 2012.08.08 09:53:00 -
[75] - Quote
Zera Kerrigan wrote:I honestly can't see one good reason why you wouldn't have atleast 3 characters. Please tell me!
Read my OP - I don't have a job!
Good enough reason I'm afraid.
I also realise that it would be impossible to enforce players only having one account, but that wasn't the question - the Q was, can EVE be played with a single account? The answer surely has to be 'yes'?
EDIT - if players are able to have multiple characters, why not make them racially fixed - no cross training to get an Ammar character into a Tengu, you have to fly a Legion...that would mean you would have to play each character in a somewhat different manner |

Elinarien
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.08.08 10:20:00 -
[76] - Quote
I play Eve and I have one account so the answer is yes.
However, perhaps the question should have been "can one do/achieve x / y / z in Eve successfully with just one account" |

Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
176
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:11:00 -
[77] - Quote
Zera Kerrigan wrote:Ofcourse I am. I just want to simply point out how easy it is to either have a trading alt or a PI alt and get alot of extra ISK to play with.
But I do that on 1 character. I don't understand why you think I should use more than one? Plus I enjoy the immersion of being 'me'. Playing additional characters just feels like a job to me. Why can't we just leave it 'to each their own'. What you enjoy or find more beneficial, I do not. |

Zera Kerrigan
Dark Tempest Enterprises
8
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:15:00 -
[78] - Quote
Hestia Mar wrote:Zera Kerrigan wrote:I honestly can't see one good reason why you wouldn't have atleast 3 characters. Please tell me! Read my OP - I don't have a job! Good enough reason I'm afraid. I also realise that it would be impossible to enforce players only having one account, but that wasn't the question - the Q was, can EVE be played with a single account? The answer surely has to be 'yes'? EDIT - if players are able to have multiple characters, why not make them racially fixed - no cross training to get an Ammar character into a Tengu, you have to fly a Legion...that would mean you would have to play each character in a somewhat different manner
Learn to read is my only comment. There is a difference between Characters and Accounts you know.
Quote:But I do that on 1 character. I don't understand why you think I should use more than one? Plus I enjoy the immersion of being 'me'. Playing additional characters just feels like a job to me. Why can't we just leave it 'to each their own'. What you enjoy or find more beneficial, I do not.
Because training another char for a week or something and then get free plexes for life is a dumb idea. |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
1787
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:36:00 -
[79] - Quote
I think it's totally possible. If I really had to, I could condense myself down to 2 (85M SP) market alts and Liang. It's not like I fly with more than one account at a time since I started frapsing anyway.
-Liang
Ed: Hilariously, one of those market alts would be my main. But Liang is the character I make PVP videos with so he'd have to sit in a station and do nothing. :| Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
438
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:40:00 -
[80] - Quote
Liang Nuren wrote:I think it's totally possible. If I really had to, I could condense myself down to 2 (85M SP) market alts and Liang. It's not like I fly with more than one account at a time since I started frapsing anyway.
-Liang
Ed: Hilariously, one of those market alts would be my main. But Liang is the character I make PVP videos with so he'd have to sit in a station and do nothing. :|
10/10 If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |
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