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XEcuTioneRUK
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Posted - 2010.11.11 09:57:00 -
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What the hell is happening with PLEX prices?
388MIL Minimum WTF!
7 months ago they were just 265MIL
This is not INFLATION this is exploiting those that need them!!!
PURE GREED IS WHAT IT IS!!!
Do you PLEX traders realise that people are 'stopping' playing EVE due to this "I know of 5 people alone, and I aint that popular, I dread to think of actual total"
Unless you are prepared to play the game of a minimum of 5 nights a week for at least 3 hrs then u just cant earn the ISK to buy them anymore! You are just spoiling the game for MANY, we do have real life issues to deal with aswell!
YES this is a whine! so please dont post any dumb replies stating so!!
Those that will say "Leave the game then, we dont care, we wont miss you, who cares etc etc" are probably those that macromining with 3 alts and dont need to worry anyway, so please dont bother with your aggressive replies, this is post for whiners!!! Go Macro!
Cummon CCP this is getting out of hand!!, I have already lost 1 alt for this reason and dont want to have to unsub my 2nd alt account!
THIS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM SCAMMING PEOPLE IN JITA!!!!
Wait for it, "Well if people are stupid enough to pay for PLEX at those prices then we are just going to continue increasing the prices" YES you are the problem here so GFYS!
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Doug Garvin
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:02:00 -
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PLEX has been on the rise from the start of the PLEX charity program. Speculators purchased most of the PLEX 2 days before the program started and have been jacking prices. Seems they had inside information!!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:03:00 -
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Blame CCP for piling a ton of functionality onto PLEXes that have nothing to do with either ISK or subscription time, thus creating a much greater demand for them and far more reason to speculate on increased prices.
The market is just doing what it should be doing; CCP are the ones who give the inputs to the market.
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Sentinel Epsilon
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:05:00 -
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 Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK
Do you PLEX traders realise that people are 'stopping' playing EVE due to this...
If you cannot afford the small monthly subscription, leaving the game and focusing on your real life may be for the best.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:07:00 -
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Confirming that market forces are excellent lol-generators.
How about you place buy orders at the price you would like to pay for a plex. If you can't find one at a price you don't want to pay, nobody will force you to do so.
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:11:00 -
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Oh the unimaginable horror. Altaholics might be forced to play on fewer accounts than before. Surely EVE will be dying soonÖ.
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RutilusUnus
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:12:00 -
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Edited by: RutilusUnus on 11/11/2010 10:14:34
Edited by: RutilusUnus on 11/11/2010 10:12:50
Don't yell at traders. They are doing exactly what they do for any other item that they trade.
CCP are the ones that have caused the major change in plex prices due to the increased uses for them.
You can get 1 month of game time, sell it on the market, use it to change your character portrait, swap a character, start the power of 2 deal (although I think this must be done through a gm), and the supposed ability to use a plex for a neural remap. All these factors have led to plex prices going up. Give it some time though and prices will go down some since people will be able to get more isk for each plex, so they will probably buy more GTC and drive prices down. But yeah, the days of 265mil plex are probably long gone.
Edit: Grammar stuffz
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:13:00 -
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You won't be missed!
As for the whole Macro freak out. I pay in cash, don't buy plex and don't have or want alts. If financial troubles means you can not afford $15 why are you spending all this time grinding ISK when you should be grinding Cash to be able to afford the game. Or maybe don't grind level 4's and do something profitable like exploration in Wormholes or Null Space.
Though I might buy plex cheaper and Jack Up the price. Thanks for the awsome market tip bud. 
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Khanaris Asgarth
Eternium Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sentinel Epsilon
Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK
Do you PLEX traders realise that people are 'stopping' playing EVE due to this...
If you cannot afford the small monthly subscription, leaving the game and focusing on your real life may be for the best.
This most definitely.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Blame CCP for piling a ton of functionality onto PLEXes that have nothing to do with either ISK or subscription time, thus creating a much greater demand for them and far more reason to speculate on increased prices.
The market is just doing what it should be doing; CCP are the ones who give the inputs to the market.
This.
Also, 388 / (5 nights a week * 4 weeks a month * 3 hours a night = 60 hours) = just shy of 6.5m ISK/hr. You should look for another profession.
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OPX2
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:20:00 -
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Dont feed the troll
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Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 11/11/2010 10:21:23
FanFest, brah (among other things). 400M+ for a PLEX isn't unprecedented.
Also, just speculating here, but in the rush by vets to get into supercarriers once they were tweaked to become unkillable solopwnmobiles, there was probably quite a bit of timecarding by individuals to fund their purchases ... which, in turn, likely kept the price competitive and low. Now prices are stabilizing again. In the two years I've been playing, the average price of a PLEX was about the same as it is now (~350M).
Now there's not as many timecards on the market. And people are likely both hoarding them in anticipation of increased demand once PLEX-for-remap goes live, as well as the Fanfest event which the airfare and accomodations can be paid for almost fully with in-game money (by buying PLEXes on market), so people with lots of e-money are competing with one another on the market to pay for a cool "free" vacation in Iceland.
The price will go over 400M again ... and then below 300M ... and then, over time, stabilize back in the low 300Ms. That's the trend I've seen over my short career, at least.
idk lol v0v *fart*
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BLACK D0G
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:22:00 -
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now I remember when you could buy 90 days gametime for 300m. Back then we used to have to walk to school through 4 miles of snow with clown shoes on, and we occasionally had to pick the moss off the brickwork outside to boil for our dinner.
times change. I wouldnt be at all surprised to see a 500m 30 day PLEX at some point in the fairly near future.
Now a lot of this is probably speculation but it is fairly intelligent speculation:
PLEX for fanfest, charity appeals, portrait switches, power of 2, character transfer, remap: these are all recent additions on top of the use of PLEX to pay for accounts. An intelligent person can only see one result from this: PLEX price goes up.
the bottom line is you either pay the going rate for PLEX, you start finding another way to pay for EvE, or you quit.
ps. if this is someones market manipulation enhancing thread well played
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: BLACK D0G
now I remember when you could buy 90 days gametime for 300m. Back then we used to have to walk to school through 4 miles of snow with clown shoes on, and we occasionally had to pick the moss off the brickwork outside to boil for our dinner.
AND WE LIKED IT!
I think I've paid 180m for 30 days quite a few times.
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:30:00 -
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OH heavens... this again... 
The market fluctuates over time. On the GTC's board, I've seen 60 day GTC's going from as low as the high 400mil's to as high as 800mil's (and I haven't been following it a lot lately).
One day people literally stopped posting their, WTS 60day GTC's x5 Online nao secure only! - threads and collectively went bat**** over the high prices. The market corrected, plex prices went back down, which affected the GTC prices and they were thus deflated.
It's cyclical. Don't like the prices now? Wait a tic, it'll change. :)
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Neyem Praetorius
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:39:00 -
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Curse those silly laws of supply and demand.
And 60 hours for 400 mil? serious? Even a lower-end mission runner in highsec shouldn't take more than 16, and higher end professions would be 3-8.
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:40:00 -
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They might stay up because of PLEX for Power of 2, PlEX for Fanfest and because of remnants of PLEX for charity
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XEcuTioneRUK
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: XEcuTioneRUK on 11/11/2010 10:56:56
Originally by: chatgris
Also, 388 / (5 nights a week * 4 weeks a month * 3 hours a night = 60 hours) = just shy of 6.5m ISK/hr. You should look for another profession.
Yes for x2 accounts this leaves me short! 
I know, the Macro attack was uneeded really, but this was just added after reading lots of similar topics and seeing the replies!
Unfortunately funds are a little sparse at present with house to pay for and fuel + 2 hungry kids to feed, not to mention the spurt of birthdays that are spread out over the last 2 months and oh god christmas around the corner, after working my butt off to pay for all this I enjoy sitting down in the evening and playing EVE with you guys, its like my 2nd life and without it I would be lost, "god the thought of not having EVE to play in the evening to relax is unthinkable" some of you must be able to relate to that!! Simply I am not currently in the position to pay 15EURO (SAME AS ú) a month for EVE, so have to grind lvl 4's to get PLEX to be able to, the jump in prices is just insane and was just a whine at CCP mainly for spoiling it for players.
Yes it was a 'feed the trolls' post I know and I ask for the dumb replies I get.. so fire away with them, I just wanted to air my thoughts on PLEX price increase.
EDIT: Typo
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:55:00 -
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At one time we paid 180m for 90d GTC's... I want those back.
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XEcuTioneRUK
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sentinel Epsilon
Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK
Do you PLEX traders realise that people are 'stopping' playing EVE due to this...
If you cannot afford the small monthly subscription, leaving the game and focusing on your real life may be for the best.
Exactly the comments I was referring to ...GFYS!
Originally by: Illwill Bill
Confirming that market forces are excellent lol-generators.
How about you place buy orders at the price you would like to pay for a plex. If you can't find one at a price you don't want to pay, nobody will force you to do so.
Yes 16 jumps out at mo doing exactly that, but not many sellers and demand is high so u need to sit there and 1 isk every 3-5mins which is very frustrating 3hrs later!
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Frecator Dementa
4 Inches Of PAIN
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:12:00 -
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Set up buy orders in remote regions
270m for a PLEX |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:12:00 -
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Don't worry, soon Eve will cost less than a loaf of bread.
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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Muul Udonii
Minmatar
THORN Syndicate
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:14:00 -
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You could always use daddy's credit card to, I don't know, PAY to play this game?
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:16:00 -
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Need higher PLEX prices tbh. If that means even more people quitting --> less people playing --> less lag --> Win for the remaining!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Don't worry, soon Eve will cost less than a loaf of bread.
Yes, but that's just because the farmers (the real ones, I mean, as in wheat and milk and all that) are getting uppety about how much they should earn in a dayà
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Yes, but that's just because the farmers (the real ones, I mean, as in wheat and milk and all that) are getting uppety about how much they should earn in a dayà
We'll never monitize the debt!
Hey let's monitize the debt!
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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Aelius
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:31:00 -
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This is only normal. Since isk value is always going down as more people get more of it.
100M nowadays are worth less than 100M 7 years ago, and 100M 3 years from now will worth less than 100M today.
So its only logic that a fix RL money commodity like the plex (worth 15 euros) will keep on price rising in EVE isks.
If you add to that the increasing "useful value" of plexs, they will rise even more.
When prices go high enough players will stop buying them in EVE simply because it will be too much isk grinding to actually have fun playing, then the prices will fall back. Some will stop playing, others will change to subscription, but either way prices will stabilize.
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XEcuTioneRUK
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dlardrageth
Need higher PLEX prices tbh. If that means even more people quitting --> less people playing --> less lag --> Win for the remaining!
I wont be quitting EVE on my main acc, but my salvy alt would have to be rested if PLEX increases more, yes lag would be less which would be of benefit to us all.
BUT in turn would have after affects such as:
Less players meaning less purchases of all items
Less PLEX bought for alts
Will take more time to do missions and salvage them meaning less salvage to sell daily which would mean less people making rigs and making profit from the alts that speed up salvaging.
Less mining haulers (orca alts) less ores = less minerals, prices go up on everything (which might not be a bad thing actually!)
It just affects things on a larger scale when less people are playing the game 'when you do the maths'
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Win for the remaining!
would be the opposite really, less people to kill less ISK, Less fun, you would soon get bored TBO
Why dont CCP sell the PLEX in certain stations at the correct market value which would save a whole lot of trouble!? they can then control the inflation inline with their monthly subs.
More for the trrolls
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Merasa Tro
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Posted - 2010.11.11 11:38:00 -
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While it is the market just doing what markets do, I do actually like my corp/alliance mates to play the game.
That was my concern with the first changes to PLEX for remaps.
If my opinion is even worth 2cent, there should be something else for the 'not-a-microtransaction-transaction', and something for the play-to-pay transaction.
That way they get to still have the headline grabbing PCUs and subscribers. As well as more income from those that want their shiny things faster.
Need some thought on how to do it, but its not quite right at the moment. IMHO, IANAL, FWIW, etc etc
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.11 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius
100M nowadays are worth less than 100M 7 years ago, and 100M 3 years from now will worth less than 100M today.
How much is a battleship compared to this time last year? CCP has deflated the economy by removing insurance fraud. 100 mill goes a lot further today then it did a year ago.
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