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RiskyFrisky
Under the Table Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.11 15:58:00 -
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And they'll keep going up :P
I'ma wait for 500 mil then sell some. -
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Iskmaker Risktaker
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2010.11.11 16:35:00 -
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All this PLEX madness has folk practically paying my game time for me.
Climb PLEX, climb!
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XEcuTioneRUK
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Posted - 2010.11.11 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Cell My conclusion: everyone will cancel each other out with their complaints and anti-complaints. Therefore CCP will just ignore the issue or bonus, however you view it.
This man was completely right!
I do agree with alot of you, and yes my initial post could have been better said to prevent the no brainer trolls splurting their crap on this topic.
BUT at the end of the day PLEX is just too expensive at present for those people that rely on playing the game by grinding lvl 4's to buy PLEX.
Quote: Yes if you dont have a job it don't matter as you have all the time on your hands.
For those of us that do 9-5's spend time with kids after work then wish to play EVE when wife watches soaps on TV its now alot tuffer to squeeze that extra 2 missions in to be able to continue paying for an alt.
I'm thinking now that maybe I got it wrong and CCP have already realised this and their intervention was the introduction of 'Power of 2' so that they dont lose anymore subscribers! Thumbs up to them if so..
Coz they and many players cant do/say jack without a bunch of mofo trollers just spoiling everything with their imature crap replies, you just got to look at an extended downtime thread to be able to pick you guys out!!
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Riedle
Minmatar MARSOC Galactic
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Posted - 2010.11.11 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: Riedle on 11/11/2010 16:55:45
Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK
Originally by: Vicious Cell My conclusion: everyone will cancel each other out with their complaints and anti-complaints. Therefore CCP will just ignore the issue or bonus, however you view it.
This man was completely right!
I do agree with alot of you, and yes my initial post could have been better said to prevent the no brainer trolls splurting their crap on this topic.
BUT at the end of the day PLEX is just too expensive at present for those people that rely on playing the game by grinding lvl 4's to buy PLEX.
Quote: Yes if you dont have a job it don't matter as you have all the time on your hands.
For those of us that do 9-5's spend time with kids after work then wish to play EVE when wife watches soaps on TV its now alot tuffer to squeeze that extra 2 missions in to be able to continue paying for an alt.
I'm thinking now that maybe I got it wrong and CCP have already realised this and their intervention was the introduction of 'Power of 2' so that they dont lose anymore subscribers! Thumbs up to them if so..
Coz they and many players cant do/say jack without a bunch of mofo trollers just spoiling everything with their imature crap replies, you just got to look at an extended downtime thread to be able to pick you guys out!!
So let me get this straight.. You are complaining that traders are greedy because you are having a difficult time playing a game for free to pay for a second account (for free)?
And you have the audacity to call THEM greedy?
Jesus Christ.
Suck it up you pansy.
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.11.11 16:58:00 -
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soon enough certain f2p games will outshine eve.....and cost less....
cant wait
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 11/11/2010 17:03:47
Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK BUT at the end of the day PLEX is just too expensive at present for those people that rely on playing the game by grinding lvl 4's to buy PLEX.
Lazy L4 mission-running income : roughly 15 mil ISK/hour per character. 2 hours an evening, just 5 days a week, that's around 640 mil ISK/month. Even if one PLEX goes over 650 mil ISK, then it would still not really be *that* expensive to call it not worth bothering with.
Serious mission-runner income : 30 mil ISK/hour per character. 3 hours per weekday, 8 hours during weekends, that's a bit under 4 bil ISK/month. If one PLEX goes over 3 bil ISK, THEN it's certainly unacceptable for most people, but only about then.
I don't expect PLEX prices to climb over 500 mil ISK for too long nor hold anywhere close to that for any significant timeframe. So, no, PLEX is nowhere near "too expensive". If anything, it's quite undervalued for people that consider their time playing as worthless... and there's enough of those around.
Originally by: Zeke Mobius soon enough certain f2p games will outshine eve.....and cost less....
OH, REALLY ? You mean CCP has somehow magically increased their subscription costs in RL cash while we weren't looking ? Because you know that's how most people around here pay for EVE, with RL cash, not by buying PLEX with ISK, don't you ? Also, you know how F2P games make their cash, don't you ? Hint: they usually make more cash than similar subscription-based games. _
Beginner's ISK making guide | Manufacturer's helper | All about reacting _
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XEcuTioneRUK
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Riedle So let me get this straight.. You are complaining that traders are greedy because you are having a difficult time playing a game for free to pay for a second account (for free)?
And you have the audacity to call THEM greedy?
Jesus Christ.
Suck it up you pansy.
Yes!
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Riedle
Minmatar MARSOC Galactic
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK
Originally by: Riedle So let me get this straight.. You are complaining that traders are greedy because you are having a difficult time playing a game for free to pay for a second account (for free)?
And you have the audacity to call THEM greedy?
Jesus Christ.
Suck it up you pansy.
Yes!
YOU are the greedy one I am afraid. Wanting something for nothing.
Excuse me if I don't agree with you.
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XEcuTioneRUK
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: XEcuTioneRUK on 11/11/2010 17:12:52
Originally by: Akita T Serious mission-runner income : 30 mil ISK/hour per character. 3 hours per weekday, 8 hours during weekends, that's a bit under 4 bil ISK/month. If one PLEX goes over 3 bil ISK, THEN it's certainly unacceptable for most people, but only about then.
8 hours on weekends? WTF do you not have a life outside EVE?
Originally by: Riedle
YOU are the greedy one I am afraid. Wanting something for nothing.
Excuse me if I don't agree with you.
You are entitled to your say as much as myself! but you dont obviously read very well, maybe your brain is numb on one side and it just skips things?
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zeke Mobius soon enough certain f2p games will outshine eve.....and cost less....
cant wait
Can I have your stuff? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Xanaan Zenithdul
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK What the hell is happening with PLEX prices? 388MIL Minimum WTF! 7 months ago they were just 265MIL
This is not INFLATION this is exploiting those that need them!!!
PURE GREED IS WHAT IT IS!!! Do you PLEX traders realise that people are 'stopping' playing EVE due to this "I know of 5 people alone, and I aint that popular, I dread to think of actual total" Unless you are prepared to play the game of a minimum of 5 nights a week for at least 3 hrs then u just cant earn the ISK to buy them anymore! You are just spoiling the game for MANY, we do have real life issues to deal with aswell!
YES this is a whine! so please dont post any dumb replies stating so!!
Those that will say "Leave the game then, we dont care, we wont miss you, who cares etc etc" are probably those that macromining with 3 alts and dont need to worry anyway, so please dont bother with your aggressive replies, this is post for whiners!!! Go Macro!
Cummon CCP this is getting out of hand!!, I have already lost 1 alt for this reason and dont want to have to unsub my 2nd alt account!
THIS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM SCAMMING PEOPLE IN JITA!!!!
Wait for it, "Well if people are stupid enough to pay for PLEX at those prices then we are just going to continue increasing the prices" YES you are the problem here so GFYS!
This game costs 15 euros per month! 15!!!!
EVERYONE IN THIS PLANET CAN AFFORD THAT! EVERYONE!
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK 8 hours on weekends? WTF do you not have a life outside EVE?
You obviously missed this part reading:
Originally by: Akita T So, no, PLEX is nowhere near "too expensive". If anything, it's quite undervalued for people that consider their time playing as worthless... and there's enough of those around.
People that have a life (and a JOB) outside EVE can really just afford to pay in RL cash. The price of PLEX is really only a problem for people that DON'T have a job (and also not much of a life). _
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XEcuTioneRUK
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Xanaan Zenithdul
Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK What the hell is happening with PLEX prices? 388MIL Minimum WTF! 7 months ago they were just 265MIL
This is not INFLATION this is exploiting those that need them!!!
PURE GREED IS WHAT IT IS!!! Do you PLEX traders realise that people are 'stopping' playing EVE due to this "I know of 5 people alone, and I aint that popular, I dread to think of actual total" Unless you are prepared to play the game of a minimum of 5 nights a week for at least 3 hrs then u just cant earn the ISK to buy them anymore! You are just spoiling the game for MANY, we do have real life issues to deal with aswell!
YES this is a whine! so please dont post any dumb replies stating so!!
Those that will say "Leave the game then, we dont care, we wont miss you, who cares etc etc" are probably those that macromining with 3 alts and dont need to worry anyway, so please dont bother with your aggressive replies, this is post for whiners!!! Go Macro!
Cummon CCP this is getting out of hand!!, I have already lost 1 alt for this reason and dont want to have to unsub my 2nd alt account!
THIS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM SCAMMING PEOPLE IN JITA!!!!
Wait for it, "Well if people are stupid enough to pay for PLEX at those prices then we are just going to continue increasing the prices" YES you are the problem here so GFYS!
This game costs 15 euros per month! 15!!!!
EVERYONE IN THIS PLANET CAN AFFORD THAT! EVERYONE!
Well some of us cant actually afford it and for no choice of there own, myself being in that position at present, I have paid many times but at mo I cant, hence the reason for my raging 1st post and having to buy plex, now that I have chilled a bit I realise I shouldn't have even bothered posting due to the large variation of mixed views on any topic here. So I should not play EVE yes? is that what you are saying, if you cant afford it dont play it?, its a game for RL cash people? pansy!
THEN WTF IS PLEX FOR U DUMBA**ES!
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Atedar Kerane
Silentium Mortalitas
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:29:00 -
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PLEX (just like everything else) is worth as much as people are willing to pay
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Xanaan Zenithdul
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK Edited by: XEcuTioneRUK on 11/11/2010 17:28:01
Originally by: Xanaan Zenithdul
Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK What the hell is happening with PLEX prices? 388MIL Minimum WTF! 7 months ago they were just 265MIL
This is not INFLATION this is exploiting those that need them!!!
PURE GREED IS WHAT IT IS!!! Do you PLEX traders realise that people are 'stopping' playing EVE due to this "I know of 5 people alone, and I aint that popular, I dread to think of actual total" Unless you are prepared to play the game of a minimum of 5 nights a week for at least 3 hrs then u just cant earn the ISK to buy them anymore! You are just spoiling the game for MANY, we do have real life issues to deal with aswell!
YES this is a whine! so please dont post any dumb replies stating so!!
Those that will say "Leave the game then, we dont care, we wont miss you, who cares etc etc" are probably those that macromining with 3 alts and dont need to worry anyway, so please dont bother with your aggressive replies, this is post for whiners!!! Go Macro!
Cummon CCP this is getting out of hand!!, I have already lost 1 alt for this reason and dont want to have to unsub my 2nd alt account!
THIS IS NO DIFFERENT FROM SCAMMING PEOPLE IN JITA!!!!
Wait for it, "Well if people are stupid enough to pay for PLEX at those prices then we are just going to continue increasing the prices" YES you are the problem here so GFYS!
This game costs 15 euros per month! 15!!!!
EVERYONE IN THIS PLANET CAN AFFORD THAT! EVERYONE!
Well some of us cant actually afford it and for no choice of there own, myself being in that position at present, I have paid many times but at mo I cant, hence the reason for my raging 1st post and having to buy plex for my alt and my main, now that I have chilled a bit I realise I shouldn't have even bothered posting due to the large variation of mixed views on any topic here. So I should not play EVE yes? is that what you are saying, if you cant afford it dont play it?, its a game for RL cash people? pansy!
THEN WTF IS PLEX FOR U DUMBA**ES!
Get a job. Seriously. Grow some balls.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK Well some of us cant actually afford it and for no choice of there own, myself being in that position at present, I have paid many times but at mo I cant, hence the reason for my raging 1st post and having to buy plex, now that I have chilled a bit I realise I shouldn't have even bothered posting due to the large variation of mixed views on any topic here. So I should not play EVE yes? is that what you are saying, if you cant afford it dont play it?, its a game for RL cash people? pansy! THEN WTF IS PLEX FOR U DUMBA**ES!
Solutions: * get more RL cash * get more ISK
The market determines what the "fair" exchange rate between ISK and RL cash is. There's far less complaining about the exchange rate between the USD and the EUR, even if that's far more of a real issue for an EVE player.
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XEcuTioneRUK
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:32:00 -
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Quote: Get a job. Seriously. Grow some balls.
I actually run my own business and earn good money thankyou, but things are a bit tight.
I'm done ...way to many twa*ts here
o/
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Angry Dogs
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:37:00 -
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People complaining that in a free merket prices may go up as well as down?
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Xanaan Zenithdul
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 People complaining that in a free merket prices may go up as well as down?
People just don't get it what they are asking for, just like in real world when they are voting for republicans or other similar entity. Free trading and all that are so wonderfull when things go nicely, but when there is first bit of problem, they all yell socialism to help them out.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 11/11/2010 17:45:37
Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK
Quote: Get a job. Seriously. Grow some balls.
I actually run my own business and earn good money thankyou, but things are a bit tight.
Your run your own business but things are SO tight you can't afford 15$/month on entertainment ? OUCH. Sounds to me a short break from EVE and focusing on your business more would be the way to go right now. _
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
The market determines what the "fair" exchange rate between ISK and RL cash is. There's far less complaining about the exchange rate between the USD and the EUR, even if that's far more of a real issue for an EVE player.
This.
PLEX/GTC value has always been player made. Stop complaining.
"500 mil for a plex" means ISK lost their value, come on people, think about it. More ISK in game. More characters with uber-ships soloing L4s. More players playing with alts. Dominion and Planetary interaction which destroyed the POS fuel ISK sink. Etc.
Speculators are juste anticipating or amplifying natural phenomenons. One day, Average Joe will earn 600 or 700m ISK per month, so a 30-Day PLEX will cost 600 or 700m. -------------------------------- Fulbert. Miner - Industrialist |
Bella Hedra
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Posted - 2010.11.11 17:57:00 -
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If you want to play a game casually, for free....go play a casual game?
This is a subscription based game... /thread
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.11.11 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK
Quote: Get a job. Seriously. Grow some balls.
I actually run my own business and earn good money thankyou, but things are a bit tight.
Hmm Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
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Bella Hedra
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Posted - 2010.11.11 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Chesty McJubblies
Originally by: XEcuTioneRUK
Quote: Get a job. Seriously. Grow some balls.
I actually run my own business and earn good money thankyou, but things are a bit tight.
Hmm
Contradicting statement is contradicting.
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Enord Loej
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.11 18:38:00 -
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PLEX prices increase, people leave EVE, people buy more PLEX because of high PLEX prices, PLEX prices tank because of high supply/low demand, people come back to eve and buy plex, PLEX prices increase... etc.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2010.11.11 20:01:00 -
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What does 'GFYS' mean? ---
☻♥ Problem? Therapy sessions ♥☻ |
Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.11 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 11/11/2010 20:11:15
Originally by: Captain Pompous What does 'GFYS' mean?
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/gfys Go "Find" YourSelf _
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.11.11 20:14:00 -
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It's inflation, pure and simple. -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
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Aylara
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Posted - 2010.11.11 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Xanaan Zenithdul EVERYONE IN THIS PLANET CAN AFFORD THAT! EVERYONE!
Excuse me for the offtopic, but I' certain that more than half of the world population don't make that amount in a month.
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Peter XZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.11 20:25:00 -
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OP you have NO IDEA about the Laws of Supply and demand, NOT A CLUE Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona or content directly related to Eve Online. Spitfire |
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