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Van Steiza Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.12.02 22:06:00 - [91] Edited by: Van Steiza on 02/12/2010 22:27:16 Pilot name:Van Steiza Date & time:2010.11.29 06:12:00 System:I-CMZA Ship:""MACHARIEL"" FULLY FACTION BLOODY FIT! Story goes like this I was leading my gang we got into a system killed the hostile gang of 21 pilots bait ship a drake. Hostilities ended at Exactly 05:45:50 Eve Time as drake died i have logs of this and a killmail of the killing blow and last aggression made. We rolled safes making new ones every time for exactly 20 minutes. We waited the 15 minute aggro timer and then some just to be certain. We then began periodicly logging out as to loose interest of the hostile fleet. I kept a rapier and 2 others logged on to make sure everyone had dissapeared this is a routine loggoffski measure. My Machariel at exactly 06:05 Was in warp to a rolling safe 10 AU away all mods running I logged off with no aggression in warp to this newly made safe by a cloaky. ALL hostiles where on the other side of system 30 AU away. After logging out Rapier in our fleet reports all of our ships as dissapearing from space INCLUDING my machariel with 30 seconds after logging hostiles STILL all on gate. Approximately to server logs and my logs and killmail logs. My ship was destroyed 7 minutes later at 06:12 Eve time. My ship should have dissapeared from space a full 6 minutes prior specialy at the speed it aligns and warps. The whole time till it was reported as off scan all over system the hostile fleet was on gate. NO AGGRESSIONS where made in the whole 20 minutes of safe rolling and deaggression. My bloody 3billion isk Machariel was molested while i was logged off in an ungodly fashion! cries im so mad bro. Insert a "U MAD BRO" here. I petition and i get a petition back from some low level GM that is akin to a call centre worker not knowing a twig about whats going on, his wording and the way he responded just seem scripted to get rid of me i obviously know otherwise and know all the specific details. Saying there was no WAY for him to prove no aggression was made after timer was up is ridiculous he should have any aggressions in the form of damage notifications logged some how and i know for a fact that I was not aggressed and there for logged off with no aggression. I have asked for it to be escalated. I DO intend to get my ship and contents back its not that i cannot afford another one. BUT WHY SHOULD I? WHY SHOULD I BUY A NEW mach when mine was lost in such a ridiculous manner. *cries in corner. GM get this seen to its ridiculous. ----------------------------------------------- Stop removing my Sig its fine!!!! Nerf Moderaters.
Ephemeron Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.12.02 22:19:00 - [92] CCP better have the logs. Their server sends damage notifications to clients. Those notifications have to be logged. If they are not, they better enable this logging today, while this problem remains unresolved. This is a critical issue.
Barakkus	Posted - 2010.12.02 22:42:00 - [93] I had this happen last night at a POS while switching computers. I had just finished onlining a lab and quit the client on my laptop. Logged in on my desktop, still at the POS, no typical e-warp from logging back in.
Doc Detroit	Posted - 2010.12.02 23:27:00 - [94] Edited by: Doc Detroit on 02/12/2010 23:27:26 There are no bugs in EvE, you do not have to make sure your characters are logged out properly. Move along please.
The Spork Caldari Void Angels Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.12.03 00:14:00 - [95] Pilot name: The Spork Date & time: 2010-11-30 20:07:00 System: 4C-B7X Ship: Drake I was in fleet on a station and warped to a safe spot before logging at 20:07 (checked the TS3 logs), no aggression timer. According to the killmail I was podded about 8 minutes later.
Van Steiza Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.12.04 22:39:00 - [96] 6 Days have passed no reply. Im out a 3b Ship and the more time goes by the lesser the chance of it being taken seriously this is terrible. Sort this out devs. ----------------------------------------------- Stop removing my Sig its fine!!!! Nerf Moderaters.
Dr Karsun Gallente Coffee Lovers Brewing Club	Posted - 2010.12.05 00:15:00 - [97] It happens once in a while unfortunetally. I never had it happen to me, but once we bumped a friends dread into a pos (around 50km) becuse he never vanished after logging off. Plus - the battle of D-G when CVA was losing providence - capital fleet went logoffski/dcied because of heavy server load and grid not loading. Many, many hours later (5-6) single KMs of caps were still appearing because the server somehow thought the ships logged in. No pilot, just ship. Not sure what happened, I know some stuff got reinbursed, some did not.
Pyro Ninja Gallente Loving Pirates Vera Cruz Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.05 00:47:00 - [98] Two corp m8's cyno alts did the same thing. After the carriers jumped in they logged there alts, they normaly just stay around until the cyno goes off then they warp away. After they cyno was off the two alts just sat there parked in the same spot. for about 15 min or so. they logged back in and just docked then logged off.
Chuc Morris	Posted - 2010.12.09 04:36:00 - [99] Edited by: Chuc Morris on 09/12/2010 04:37:22 Edited by: Chuc Morris on 09/12/2010 04:36:39 This issue happends to me every day since a few months. This char is an alt so is mostly docked training or sometimes out killing rats in 0.5/0.6, nothing spTcial. When i disconect this account for any reason in safe spot or in station, i can see it connected for several minutes with my main char (private chan) until i run off manually ccp.exe. Also tried to wait and see how mutch time it could take until he's "off" the game: indefinitively or reboot server time. Some times i have an windows log (vista32 updated etc etc) saying the socket can't run out or not responding, so i just run it off by force from "tasks listing" (sorry runing win in another language). In this case this alt gets disconected imediatly from the game. This happens 3/5 connexions if i run two accounts at the same time, if i turn 3 accounts one of them happens 100%. When i run a single account it happens mabe 1/20 that i have the windows log, so he's docked when i logg off preventing some trouble like you guys.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.12.09 15:52:00 - [100] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 09/12/2010 15:52:40 Let me explain in easy terms what happens and how you can deal with this (my report in the other page is for computer geeks). Basically the client used to randomly crash at shutdown, expecially when playing multiple clients together. One day at CCP someone changed the shutdown code to crash less but ALSO put a "sweep under the rug" modification that would make the client just silently ignore the log off crash if it still happened. Since EvE client has no "keep alive" check to determine if you are connected or not, the server has to rely on YOU (your client) telling it that you logged off. If you don't tell the server you logged off, you will permanently stay online till the next server downtime. Due to this "sweep under the rug" patch of above, if any problem happens during disconnect, your client will just shutdown without telling the server and this causes your ship to stay online for the rest of the day. Therefore the only way that - for now - ensures a disconnection is to terminate the client via task manager => Processes (NOT applications) => Right click => Terminate process and subprocesses. This will work until CCP will change protocol to require a keep alive (unlikely) or will patch the client again. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz

Relena mearfire	Posted - 2010.12.10 12:00:00 - [101] Happened to me yesterday. After DT i undocked and could not do anything. Warp/cloak/redock/align. So i logged off. Along came one of my ex-corpies and blew me the hell up. Logged on later and he was like yeah. You was not online when i blew you up. Waiting for petition atm.
Blnukem 192 Amarr Impetar	Posted - 2010.12.19 05:07:00 - [102] Originally by: Van Steiza Edited by: Van Steiza on 02/12/2010 22:27:16 Pilot name:Van Steiza Date & time:2010.11.29 06:12:00 System:I-CMZA Ship:""MACHARIEL"" FULLY FACTION BLOODY FIT! Story goes like this I was leading my gang we got into a system killed the hostile gang of 21 pilots bait ship a drake. Hostilities ended at Exactly 05:45:50 Eve Time as drake died i have logs of this and a killmail of the killing blow and last aggression made. We rolled safes making new ones every time for exactly 20 minutes. We waited the 15 minute aggro timer and then some just to be certain. We then began periodicly logging out as to loose interest of the hostile fleet. I kept a rapier and 2 others logged on to make sure everyone had dissapeared this is a routine loggoffski measure. My Machariel at exactly 06:05 Was in warp to a rolling safe 10 AU away all mods running I logged off with no aggression in warp to this newly made safe by a cloaky. ALL hostiles where on the other side of system 30 AU away. After logging out Rapier in our fleet reports all of our ships as dissapearing from space INCLUDING my machariel with 30 seconds after logging hostiles STILL all on gate. Approximately to server logs and my logs and killmail logs. My ship was destroyed 7 minutes later at 06:12 Eve time. My ship should have dissapeared from space a full 6 minutes prior specialy at the speed it aligns and warps. The whole time till it was reported as off scan all over system the hostile fleet was on gate. NO AGGRESSIONS where made in the whole 20 minutes of safe rolling and deaggression. My bloody 3billion isk Machariel was molested while i was logged off in an ungodly fashion! cries im so mad bro. Insert a "U MAD BRO" here. I petition and i get a petition back from some low level GM that is akin to a call centre worker not knowing a twig about whats going on, his wording and the way he responded just seem scripted to get rid of me i obviously know otherwise and know all the specific details. Saying there was no WAY for him to prove no aggression was made after timer was up is ridiculous he should have any aggressions in the form of damage notifications logged some how and i know for a fact that I was not aggressed and there for logged off with no aggression. I have asked for it to be escalated. I DO intend to get my ship and contents back its not that i cannot afford another one. BUT WHY SHOULD I? WHY SHOULD I BUY A NEW mach when mine was lost in such a ridiculous manner. cries in corner. GM get this seen to its ridiculous. That was truly a cool story, for srs. Originally by:* CCP Navigator This is really not worthy of a thread.
Keta Fraal Nul and Booleans	Posted - 2010.12.19 07:30:00 - [103] Originally by: Cyprus Black Lost a manticore in a safespot out in 0.0 five hours after I logged off. I was going to petition it but remembered that 9 times out of 10 the GM response is "The logs show nothing". I was going to believe you, but 9 times outta 10 forum posts are trolls. --------------------------------------- Completely ignore any whining that is not toilet orientated.
Sidila	Posted - 2010.12.29 21:23:00 - [104] Originally by: CCP Masterplan If this has happened to you, can you please reply with the following details: [b]Pilot name: Sidila Date & time: 19. December (log off time) 22:03 -- (Death time) 23:06 System: TWJ-AW Ship: Aeon How did you realise it had happened? Had a session Change Bug, after a big fleet battle and hostiles left system, where a GM was trying to help by both ending session Change and by moving me allthough nothing worked ( i Could not log back in due to Session Bug ) last log in attempt was at aprox 22:03 death happened at 23:06. I was in fleet and most likely had some 5 mins left on aggression when initial bug occoured (around 21:30), i spotted my ship hanging in space from an alt about 25 minuttes before it died and not even the GM could remove it from game (Reimbursement is something you'll have you to discuss with the GMs via petition. I'm trying to see if there are any patterns, or if we can relate this to something unusual in the server logs.) Thanks for your help!
leich Amarr bish bash bosh	Posted - 2010.12.30 10:18:00 - [105] Ive seen Cases of this happening were the Ship stays on the grid visibly but you cant lock it ECT. They dont seem to go untill Downtime.
Anubis Xian Word Bearers of Chaos	Posted - 2010.12.30 16:50:00 - [106] Originally by: Guilty Man I've heard it happens sometimes when you quit midwarp. So, do not quit in the middle of warping! This does indeed happen. Your ship will come to. A dead stop at the point the server loses the client. In my case the faction navy spawned and killed my Absolution 38 au from the Teon gate in Magiko (88 au warp). GMs told me I was full of ** and that it was working as intended. Originally by:** CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Vmir Gallahasen Gallente United Mining And Distribution	Posted - 2010.12.30 17:11:00 - [107] Had this happen to one of my characters. Another character (of mine, on same computer) then proceeded to watch my piloted orca float in my pos shields for nearly 3 hours logged off. Confirmed with multiple people that the character showed logged off but was definitely in space (bumpable, could even use ship maintenance array and corp hangar). Filed a petition, hoping the GM might escalate it to a dev to have a look at a specific in-progress case. GM responded with something along the lines of: 'I have modified your character so that it will disappear. Reply if it does not'. Character's ship disappeared seconds later Don't buy the crap that they don't know what's going on
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.12.30 17:12:00 - [108] Originally by: Barakkus I had this happen last night at a POS while switching computers. I had just finished onlining a lab and quit the client on my laptop. Logged in on my desktop, still at the POS, no typical e-warp from logging back in. If you are INSIDE THE FORCEFIELD you don't make an e-warp after logging off, you just vanish. CCP put this in after people had been scanned down and killed outside the forcefield, although they where perfectly safe within the forcefield. This is so since a year at least. And yeah, if you logg in 3minutes+ later you make an ewarp back to the pos.. ask the elfes how that one works, I have no clue nor an explanation. support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
Babel Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2010.12.30 17:22:00 - [109] Yes, happened to me a few months ago. Client dropped with ship in space. When I logged in some hours later I saw the character I had been on earlier in the day was docked in my system .... in her medclone station . Swapped over to check and lo and behold, she had been probed, popped and podded about 5 hours after she logged off. Can't recall if I was reimbursed or not. This [anag.] happens I guess ... . All generalisations are false - Discuss.
David Carel Caldari Random Selection. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.12.30 22:29:00 - [110] Happened to me too -- I was in a Cane, logged off, come back after 8 hours or so and alliance guy tells me that I never vanished and even acted as bait for the red bomber gang that was nearby. I didn't die but it was fun to be bait even when you're asleep (IRL and in-game)

Miss President Caldari SOLARIS ASTERIUS	Posted - 2010.12.30 22:57:00 - [111] Has CCP started to reimburse FULL fittings, implants lost due this bug, obviously a 100% fault of CCP? If not, it's obviously a pretty fail policy that needs changing. If someone logs off in a ship let's say with 2 bil in fittings, and loses his ship due to this bug 2 hours later, and and all the good stuff get dropped and snatched by people who killed him, why exactly isn't he entitled to have all his items restored in full, after all it's none of his fault.
Cyprus Black Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.12.31 00:01:00 - [112] I had this happen to me too. Logged off in 0.0 cloaked and in a safe spot. The kill mail showed that I was killed five hours after I logged off. I put in a petition, waited three weeks with still no response and gave up. So to answer the question of does it happen. Yes most definitely. _______________________________________ When you say "plz" because it's shorter than "please", I say "no" because it's shorter than "yes". Grammar and spelling count.
TimMc Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.	Posted - 2011.01.04 12:59:00 - [113] Don't like this bug. I cannot log off in nullsec without someone around to watch that I have disappeared.
Widemouth Deepthroat	Posted - 2011.01.04 14:11:00 - [114] Funny WIderp crying so much in this thread when they were so smug after kill russian super cap with same aggression timer extension exploits a while back.
Mia Restolo	Posted - 2011.01.04 15:30:00 - [115] Originally by: Miss President Has CCP started to reimburse FULL fittings, implants lost due this bug, obviously a 100% fault of CCP? If not, it's obviously a pretty fail policy that needs changing. If someone logs off in a ship let's say with 2 bil in fittings, and loses his ship due to this bug 2 hours later, and and all the good stuff get dropped and snatched by people who killed him, why exactly isn't he entitled to have all his items restored in full, after all it's none of his fault. The only problem with this is that as soon as they changed the policy people would exploit it. Friend logs off and encounters the bug (possibly on purpose), I blow him up and recover say 1B of his 2B in fittings. He petitions and gets his ship and 2B worth of fittings back... presto! magic production of 1B worth of fittings. I agree that it sucks and should be reimbursable but to avoid a potential GM endorsed exploit they can't do it.


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