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thurft2
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Posted - 2010.11.18 17:52:00 -
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Hello,
Thank you for taking the time to click on this page!
There are many surveys and researches being carried out at the moment, very few of them are trying to understand gamers. But this is about to change!. The psychology community is trying to understand what motivates people to play a game and would very much appreciate your participation.
If you could please give us no more than 5 minutes of your time to complete this survey at www.lsbugame.com you will greatly help the psychology and game community!
Thank you!
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Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.11.18 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 18/11/2010 18:47:12
If this is about the "psychology community" the website should at the very least name the academic institution by which this survey is done so interested people can check that the researcher does indeed share his/her results with the "community" (i.e. publish).
Otherwise we might be inclined to think that this is a profit-driven venture and there is no real inclination to share the results with the community.
/thumbs down in the present state
(I know some people who do very similar surveys/research on social gaming as part of a consultancy gig, therefore my scepticism)
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.11.18 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: thurft2 Hello,
Thank you for taking the time to click on this page!
There are many surveys and researches being carried out at the moment, very few of them are trying to understand gamers. But this is about to change!. The psychology community is trying to understand what motivates people to play a game and would very much appreciate your participation.
If you could please give us no more than 5 minutes of your time to complete this survey at www.lsbugame.com you will greatly help the psychology and game community!
Thank you!
Why not post this with your main?
Syn Callibri Scorpion Clan Commander - Fleet Ops [21EL]
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2010.11.25 16:42:00 -
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We've talked to his professor and made sure everything is legit. 
Wrangler Senior Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us
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Feligast
Minmatar Intentionally Destructive
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Posted - 2010.11.25 16:47:00 -
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Thank you for participating in our survey. Unfortunately, you don't qualify as one of its target candidates. 
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Vak'ran
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Posted - 2010.11.25 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler We've talked to his professor and made sure everything is legit. 
while this is nice, i expected as much since glue was applied. But I agree with pinkerton up here, that the least one could do was let us know which institution we are supporting here. 'psychological community' is just way too vague.
Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum |

Nixx Halcyon
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Posted - 2010.11.25 17:39:00 -
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To be honest i see playing any mmo about the same as any other hobby. There are some ppl that take it to the extreme and there are others that see it as no more than a way to spend personal time. The thing i really love about eve is i can hop on and play a few hours do a couple of missions or sell some things in jita or i could just log on for a few set my que and watch some tv before bed or work. That is the reason i was drawn back to the game (after playing another mmo that will not be named )Although the funny thing is i play completely solo and rarely ever talk to anyone. My roommate is allways wondering why i play mmo games and hardly ever talk to anyone hehe.
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.11.25 17:42:00 -
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Filled out the survey since I put psychology down as my third choice for degree study next year - who knows, maybe I'll be writing one of these one day and asking other EVE players to fill it out 
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Anyura
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Posted - 2010.11.25 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: Anyura on 25/11/2010 17:47:29 I don't endorse this product or service.
Researchers aren't interested in finding out that gamers are no more messed up than people that watch TV, play sports or whatever. They like to carefully select data drawn from surveys such as this, spin it to paint us as a bunch of murdering deviants and then hand it over to the media for headlines and to attract more research funding.
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Feligast
Minmatar Intentionally Destructive
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Posted - 2010.11.25 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Anyura Edited by: Anyura on 25/11/2010 17:47:29 I don't endorse this product or service.
Researchers aren't interested in finding out that gamers are no more messed up than people that watch TV, play sports or whatever. They like to carefully select data drawn from surveys such as this, spin it to paint us as a bunch of murdering deviants and then hand it over to the media for headlines and to attract more research funding.
If you take the survey, the questions are worded to pretty much mean this.
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.25 17:57:00 -
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Nonsense.
This is the second one of these sort of surveys i have completed from this forum. Both seemed to have been translated into English from some other language and the questions were, to use a technical term, dopey.
Does not describes me well...jesus christ.
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Main ForumAlt
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Posted - 2010.11.25 18:45:00 -
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I wanted to help you, and started on the form. About halfway on step 3, I had to stop though, the pain was too much.
If you want people to help you with this sort of thing, you really need to use more time on the questions. Statements like "feel others emotions" are pure nonsense. While I can guess what you are trying to measure, I feel very disrespected. And of course, no one wants to help someone who disrespects you.
In my view the categories and the statements doesn't always match very well, it would be better if you just used a straight 1-5 scale all the way, or stuck with categories that fitted all statements. A bit more explanation would be useful too.
If I were your professor, I would have failed you on the survey form alone. And if I'm going to be your little white mouse, I expect a better built maze than this.
You description of the research didn't match the form (at least the parts I did) very well either. And this sort of research has been done before. Often very badly (not as badly as you form though)
I realize this is a very negative comment, but I think you are really going in a very wrong direction here and wanted to give you some hopefully constructive criticism. I'm not very good at wrapping up things nicely though so this might seem a bit harsh, but when I spend my time typing this it's not only to scold you for waisting my time, but I'm also motivated by a hope that given some correction you might improve a bit.
I wish you the best but want to suggest that you use a bit more time on your studies and a bit less time on EVE/Beer/wimmen/the telly/whatever.
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Muul Udonii
Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.25 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mme Pinkerton If this is about the "psychology community" the website should at the very least name the academic institution by which this survey is done
It does.
London South Bank University.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.11.25 19:28:00 -
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Quote: Given enough provocation, I will hit someone There are people who pushed me so far that we came to blows. I have threatened people I know I often find myself disagreeing with people I canĈt help getting into arguments when people disagree with me. My friends say that IĈm somewhat argumentative. I flare up quickly but get over it quickly. Sometimes I fly off the handle for no good reason. I have trouble controlling my temper.
They also covered being Mr. Anti-Social as well as Mr. Anger-Management.
"another aim of this research is to identify personality factors that may explain people's game involvement"
And this gets stickied on the forum. Thanks CCP, very nice.
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Vak'ran
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Posted - 2010.11.25 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Quote: Given enough provocation, I will hit someone There are people who pushed me so far that we came to blows. I have threatened people I know I often find myself disagreeing with people I canĈt help getting into arguments when people disagree with me. My friends say that IĈm somewhat argumentative. I flare up quickly but get over it quickly. Sometimes I fly off the handle for no good reason. I have trouble controlling my temper.
They also covered being Mr. Anti-Social as well as Mr. Anger-Management.
"another aim of this research is to identify personality factors that may explain people's game involvement"
And this gets stickied on the forum. Thanks CCP, very nice.
yeah, this will not be abused or misinterpreted at all 
Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum |

Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.11.25 19:49:00 -
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Very interesting questions
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.11.25 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Ash Donai on 25/11/2010 20:41:01 Why do you need a survey to figure out that people game because real life sucks? If real life would be more entertaining or enticing then people wouldn't spend time on games. Time is a limited resource, whichever gives you the most pleasure is what you do the most.
Not that hard of a concept really.
Edit; The survey is also poorly designed, for example: "I flare up quickly but get over it quickly", here you have no idea whether any of the answers mean that one flares up quickly but doesn't get over it quickly. The answers don't match the question.
In fact I just abandoned the survey altogether because of extremely poorly worded questions/statements and answers that didn't go along with the question/statement at all. Whatever prof reviewed these questions is one glaring example why public education is in the crapper.
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.11.25 21:18:00 -
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dont, interesting survey, hopefully u will figure out that games dont make you violent unless your a moron and people are only "addicted" to games because its what they do on FREE time
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Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.25 21:24:00 -
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I went about 20% of part 3, however that part suck so much, so I simply quit.
English is not my native language, and questions like: "At times I feel I have gotten a raw deal out of life." just sucks. I have no idea what that means. And many times the answers simply does not match the question. So it's badly designed form. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shields are like pants, they're supposed to come off. Armor is like the condom once its gone ur ****ed |

Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.11.25 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lost Hamster I went about 20% of part 3, however that part suck so much, so I simply quit.
English is not my native language, and questions like: "At times I feel I have gotten a raw deal out of life." just sucks. I have no idea what that means. And many times the answers simply does not match the question. So it's badly designed form.
I would like to echo the complaints that the questions are not properly worded. Since English is my mother tongue, I was able to complete the survey easily enough, but others may have difficulty understanding it.
But just to clarify for those who do not know:
getting a "raw deal out of life" means that you were given a life which you did not deserve. An example of such could be being born to poor parents, and being unable to attend school because of this, thus preventing you from getting a job. It implies a sense of injustice, inequality or some sort of undeserved pain. The question here is whether or not you *FEEL* that there are external factors preventing you from achieving happiness in life.
"Feel other's emotions" is referring to empathy - i.e. the ability to not only recognize another person's happiness or sadness, but to also put these own emotions onto yourself. For example, if you have a friend and they tell you excitedly that they just got an awesome job, you genuinely feel excited also. Likewise, if a friend tells you that their parent/spouse/close relative died in a horrible accident, you genuinely feel sad because of this.
My main problem with the survey is that the questions are worded improperly, and there are several questions which are similar, or identical with different wording. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Anyura
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Posted - 2010.11.25 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Anyura on 25/11/2010 22:26:47
Originally by: CCP Wrangler We've talked to his professor and made sure everything is legit. 
Legitimate or not, the fact that this thread is stickied creates the wrong impression that CCP is endorsing this misleading and (to me at least) offensive survey. De-sticky this and move it to OOPE. I would encourage people to report the OP and ask for this.
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Mibad
Sickle Moon
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Posted - 2010.11.25 22:25:00 -
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Understand what motivates people to play?
All these questions sound like they would be used to slander the gaming community.
have you ever skipped important events to play a game are you ever angry you cant play do people fail to reduce your game time etc etc
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Miriam Letisse
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Posted - 2010.11.25 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Anyura
Legitimate or not, the fact that this thread is stickied creates the wrong impression that CCP is endorsing this misleading and (to me at least) offensive survey. De-sticky this and move it to OOPE. I would encourage people to report the OP and ask for this.
You're just mad because you've never had anything stickied.
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Lanais Suleia
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Posted - 2010.11.26 00:14:00 -
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So the study isn't on that site, the study is this thread where everyone turns paranoia to 11, trolls, ****-stirs and generally acts like a herd of douchebags.
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shinaide
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Posted - 2010.11.26 00:30:00 -
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I took the survey and it seemed a little silly.
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Muul Udonii
Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vak'ran
yeah, this will not be abused or misinterpreted at all 
Just do what I did and answer the exact opposite of the way they are expecting the results to pan out. It's a survey for a psychology student, it's not interested in the truth; it's interested in getting him a pass mark.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Dead Muppets
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Posted - 2010.11.26 11:27:00 -
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This survey is so general and explicitly not focused on EVE Online that most of the questions make no sense at all.
Stopped halfway trough and I'm compulsive on filling in surveys  ----- Amicus Morte is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.26 12:25:00 -
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I have done the survey, but this at the end isn't a good sign:
Quote: If you think that your internet use is causing you problems you can check this sites for more information: http://www.netaddiction.com
It seem to point to a bias on the part of the person doing the survey.
For the other not native English speakers: "feeling blue" mean "being depressed".
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.11.26 12:46:00 -
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Thank you for participating in our survey. Unfortunately, you don't qualify as one of its target candidates
    
Originally by: CCP Adida The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.11.26 12:51:00 -
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This survey tells me a lot about the motivations of the psychology community... and it isn't looking pretty!
-- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space |
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Dead Muppets
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Posted - 2010.11.26 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul I have done the survey, but this at the end isn't a good sign: Quote: If you think that your internet use is causing you problems you can check this sites for more information: http://www.netaddiction.com
Can I take the therapy sessions on the internet ?  ----- Amicus Morte is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
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Portmanteau
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.11.26 13:54:00 -
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The behavioural questions in the second section seem to be implying the survey is looking for signs of autism and/or depression
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Kajan Tormen
Minmatar Blood Money Inc. The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.26 15:12:00 -
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Take it from a fellow researcher (although not in psychology): this form is bad, really, utterly bad.
as has been stated already: many of the questions don't fit to the possible answers. In some cases, giving a negative answer leaves it unclear which part of the question one disagrees with. But most importantly: the entire survey gives the impression that the questions are biased. Which (no matter whether you as the researcher are actually biased or not) makes it almost impossible to get "accurate/honest" answers, as everyone filling out this survey will instinctively "defend against the bias"
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Carine Parnasse
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Posted - 2010.11.26 18:04:00 -
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Quote: Did you spend increasing amounts of time on games?
What is this suposed to be asking? And how is 'Never' a proper responce? Poorly worded and all the questions are the same, why did CCP feel the need to promote this?
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Ashley Philos
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Posted - 2010.11.26 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: Ashley Philos on 26/11/2010 18:50:00 Edited by: Ashley Philos on 26/11/2010 18:49:36 dont ***** on here, contact the dude who wrote it:
[email protected]
look at the "contact the researcher part at the bottom of the page.
also, this guy seems legit: http://jonathanmoreira.co.uk/
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2010.11.28 07:15:00 -
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This survey reads more like a Scientology audit than a psych survey, it is total garbage. Don't do it.
Originally by: Samuel Langhorne Clemens I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.
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Iain Cubair
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.28 11:04:00 -
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A question from step 3: - When the water is very cold, I prefer not to swim even if it is a hot day...
Very good question, and definitely related to gaming! However you missed some important questions like:
- When I eat tomatoes, I often dress them up with mayonnaise. - Sometimes I feel like reading a magazine in the waiting room of my dentist - Have you ever peed while taking a shower? This test is hilarious.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.11.28 13:18:00 -
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Please unstick.
Please stick only threads which are quite important to the Eve community and carry a pretty much official content from CCP. |

Donatella D'Tren
Harbingers of Chaos Inc. Mongoose Legion
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Posted - 2010.11.28 16:28:00 -
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Why is this crap stickied? CCP Fail.
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Avon
Caldari Versatech Co. Blade.
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Posted - 2010.11.29 01:02:00 -
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I completed the survey - let the guy get his course credits.
Honestly though, these things seem so out of date now. I remember when roleplaying games and computer games singled you out as some sort of sad individual trying to escape their hum-drum existence in the "real-world"; but now gaming is so widespread and socially acceptable I think it would be hard to infer much from tests like this, other than what sort of people like taking tests.
(Note, I am not denying I fit the stereotype I so eloquently described) Signature removed, please only use English on the forums. Zymurgist Okay sweet-cheeks xxx. Avon |
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Ganagati
Caldari Zebra Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.29 03:10:00 -
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Whoever designed this survey, I wish you would go through and move the listings on the answers around so they follow some standard.
Some of them are
--------------- Positive response Average response Negative response ----------------
others are
-------------- Negative response Average response Positive response --------------
If you are just trying to answer the questions without having to reread the same answers over and over, it gets annoying.
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hacksideways
Caldari Assah Shipping Company
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Posted - 2010.11.29 10:20:00 -
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A while ago I took part in an extremely intensive psychology examination. The examination was spread out over three days, two hours per session, and was geared towards determining whether or not I had a learning disability (an IQ test was also included), since I never did any homework.
Irrelevant, but it determined I had none and I was just lazy, but here's why I mentioned it:
During the beginning portions of the test, where I filled out a questionnaire very similar to the one in the OP, I felt many of the same concerns you all have felt, while I was taking it. Many of the questions simply had no correct answer. For example "When you get high, do you feel like it's all you want to do?" which I couldn't answer, since I had never gotten high, and my only options were "Yes" or "No", both of which implied that I got high. Still others assumed I had some kind of personality quirk which I was fairly certain I did not, or seemed to be trying to make it look like I was an anger-prone, unstable psycho or something.
I complained to the assistant who was administering the test, and she said something about how "the questions were designed to look for things like that" or "it didn't matter" or something.
So I just answered them all as best as I could. I went back in to the office for the results about a month later, and they told me I'd tested "flat", that is, no personality problems at all.
These types of quizzes may *seem* like they are assuming something you would rather they not, but the truth is (if this guy knows what he's doing) they and their answers are arranged in such a fashion that the test-giver can glean actual, useful data from them. If you fill them out as honestly as you can, and you truly aren't like the person they seem to be describing in the questions, then the results will be that you are not.
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Originally by: Liz Laser Exotic Dancers are cargo.
That's how we roll.
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Anne Arqui
Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.29 12:36:00 -
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Any poll results?
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.11.29 15:54:00 -
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Thank you for unsticky this tread now maybe you can sticky threads like this that need a sticky.
Scorpionidae 
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