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Panzer Faust
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Posted - 2005.01.11 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: Panzer Faust on 11/01/2005 23:37:05 1H20 till this little baby comes out of factory :)
takin offer for this nice faction ship, one of the very first ingame.... this is NOT an auction, but if the offer is nice enough, we might sell it :)
the proud owner of this little baby is my corpmate and friend seewolve btw, grats to him  --- Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven. |

EvilSyKOSkitzo
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Posted - 2005.01.11 21:25:00 -
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Hey mate,
Whats a HookBill btw?
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Chrisb6122
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Posted - 2005.01.11 21:27:00 -
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100 mill
Magnet41 > i kill people ingame because i would take a bigger sec if i killed them in rl |

Chrisb6122
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Posted - 2005.01.11 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: EvilSyKOSkitzo Hey mate,
Whats a HookBill btw?
Hookbill is the calderi's answer to customs frigates
Magnet41 > i kill people ingame because i would take a bigger sec if i killed them in rl |

Panzer Faust
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Posted - 2005.01.11 21:31:00 -
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Here are the stats of this faction ship. --- Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven. |

Braaage
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Posted - 2005.01.11 21:32:00 -
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110mil ___________________________________________ http://www.eve-tutor.com
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Seewolve
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Posted - 2005.01.11 22:04:00 -
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It's the first one ... the best offer will be contacted in game. Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

fairimear
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Posted - 2005.01.11 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: fairimear on 11/01/2005 22:10:31 it aint the first 1. and second half the caldari navy seem to use harpy's as customs ships. and as i am unable to find a npc flying this a set of pics would be real nice upon fact spitting it out.
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Seewolve
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Posted - 2005.01.11 22:18:00 -
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Ship will be out of factory in 20 minutes  Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

Vvari
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Posted - 2005.01.11 22:35:00 -
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120 --------------------------- new sig under construction |

Panzer Faust
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Posted - 2005.01.11 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Panzer Faust on 11/01/2005 22:54:11 will be hosting screenies ASAP
edit - uploading em right now.... took screenies from eve folder, but they aint compressed at all and im too lazy to do it now -_- --- Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven. |

s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.01.11 22:44:00 -
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Nice,
To congratulate you seewolve I'm offering you 2 125'2s + a small armor repairer 2 and for whoever wins the auction another 2 125 2's for free.
For all your hard work :D
Let's get more custom ships out there :D
Please evemail me for pickup.
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Panzer Faust
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Posted - 2005.01.11 23:28:00 -
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So here they are : pics 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 again, sry for the large size of imgs 
that ship is so sexy! 
PS : ship is on escrow for you all to see (niyabainen) at what we consider to be the buy out price. enjoy, and good night  --- Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven. |

EVENFLOW
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Posted - 2005.01.12 02:31:00 -
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woah....400m? worth a shot i guess. its pretty cool as its the first of its kind, ect, but its no better than a harpy.
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Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2005.01.12 04:37:00 -
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Hmm looks like they mixed an Ibis with a Merlin basically.
Interesting ship...however, ya'll are getting jipped, considering the ship is actually only worth just a few K more then a Merlin. It is after all a tech I tier III frigate.
300K is my bid. Well maybe 500K just because it's new.
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Berilac
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Posted - 2005.01.12 05:02:00 -
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its all about the rarity, not how good it is  --- 'Sweeden Steel Bite hard'
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fairimear
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Posted - 2005.01.12 10:54:00 -
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even rare value only puts it at 150 ish mill for a week at most. the pure fact these are going to be given out from now on will prob put its value at 15mill in 2-3 months.
 (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2005.01.12 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear even rare value only puts it at 150 ish mill for a week at most. the pure fact these are going to be given out from now on will prob put its value at 15mill in 2-3 months.
Thats pure horsecrap. Who is gonna waste 100k loyalty points and a crapload of tags for 15m??? Nobody! Fact is, nobody is going to TAKE the AGENTS offer if he doesn't get at least 100m in return. Please read economics 101, SUPPLY and demand.
Of course in comparison to other frigates in terms of stats this is worth no more than 1m or so, but that doesn't matter squat.
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Cole Darkman
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Posted - 2005.01.12 11:52:00 -
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why should anybody fukc with tech I friggs for 100M when he can use tech II friggs for 1/5th which destroy ten of these at once...
Better save the 100k LP for faction BS which are the only ones worth it...
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Chrisb6122
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Posted - 2005.01.12 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cole Darkman why should anybody fukc with tech I friggs for 100M when he can use tech II friggs for 1/5th which destroy ten of these at once...
Better save the 100k LP for faction BS which are the only ones worth it...
Your missing the whole point of this type of ship, and sure you save for your faction bs [sarcasim/]
oh 130 m 
Magnet41 > i kill people ingame because i would take a bigger sec if i killed them in rl |

Seewolve
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Posted - 2005.01.12 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Seewolve on 12/01/2005 12:08:40 It's not about the stats or the future use of the ship . the fact is : It's (or nearly) the only one and it's not a common frigate , It's a caldari navy faction ship; no matter what it cost (time, money, LP tags ..) it's the reward for the works of some ppl who wanted do get a different thing. Maybe it' will be released in 1 or 2 months, or maybe not.. no matter, this one is the first one and it look really nice. Maybe will it be sold (at right price) maybe not and maybe i will only use it to go shopping trough empire, but one thing is true, we are proud to have gotten and built it, no matter of the cost ;o)
And for the Lp spent : i can't figure how much LP i'll need for a Raven "navy issue" but the LP spent for the Hookbill will only be a little amount of the LP requirement for a raven (and maybe someone will get enough LP for a raven but not the right tags or stuff..) then the LP in this case are not soo important Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

fairimear
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Posted - 2005.01.12 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: fairimear on 12/01/2005 12:16:25
Originally by: Excavation Svcs
Originally by: fairimear even rare value only puts it at 150 ish mill for a week at most. the pure fact these are going to be given out from now on will prob put its value at 15mill in 2-3 months.
Thats pure horsecrap. Who is gonna waste 100k loyalty points and a crapload of tags for 15m??? Nobody! Fact is, nobody is going to TAKE the AGENTS offer if he doesn't get at least 100m in return. Please read economics 101, SUPPLY and demand.
Of course in comparison to other frigates in terms of stats this is worth no more than 1m or so, but that doesn't matter squat.
yes fine ignore the fact more and more of the required claim stuff gets droped from missions every day and that pirate tags are getting dumped every day and then your coments may be valid.
untill then pls read your economics 101 and then take a look at the day by day increase in agents offering these ships and the availibilty of the stuff to claim them. And how every other non-limited edition ship has always lost value.
O btw i said 2-3 months. for now the value is what ever.
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Seewolve
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Posted - 2005.01.12 13:10:00 -
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Faction ships will only be relased by agents, so the availability will stay low and maybe the demand high.
People always love to be differents that others .. by flying an uncommon ship ie .. Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2005.01.12 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Panzer Faust So here they are : pics 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 again, sry for the large size of imgs 
that ship is so sexy! 
PS : ship is on escrow for you all to see (niyabainen) at what we consider to be the buy out price. enjoy, and good night 
Have anything in English? _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Seewolve
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Posted - 2005.01.12 14:55:00 -
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Links seems to be broken .. we'll try to fix that this evening  Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

MatStar
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Posted - 2005.01.12 15:24:00 -
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i got a hookbill last saturday and promptly gave it away, slower than my ceptor and will get butt r**ed against ceptors and assault frigs so not much point keepin it
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Cindy Goodwill
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Posted - 2005.01.12 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: MatStar i got a hookbill last saturday and promptly gave it away, slower than my ceptor and will get butt r**ed against ceptors and assault frigs so not much point keepin it
you are really missing the point on faction ships...  ----------------------------------------------- Watch my leet everchanging dynamic signature \o/ http://www.games-on.nl/~cu2moro/evesigphp/icon.php?blaat=.GIF |

Chrisb6122
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Posted - 2005.01.12 16:54:00 -
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So, when are you gonna decide if your selling or not
Magnet41 > i kill people ingame because i would take a bigger sec if i killed them in rl |

Cherry
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Posted - 2005.01.12 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Cherry on 12/01/2005 16:56:52
Originally by: MatStar i got a hookbill last saturday and promptly gave it away, slower than my ceptor and will get butt r**ed against ceptors and assault frigs so not much point keepin it
Get anymore and i wil trade u a ceptor for 1 :))
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MatStar
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Posted - 2005.01.12 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: MatStar on 12/01/2005 16:59:56
Originally by: Cindy Goodwill
Originally by: MatStar i got a hookbill last saturday and promptly gave it away, slower than my ceptor and will get butt r**ed against ceptors and assault frigs so not much point keepin it
you are really missing the point on faction ships... 
so whats the point then? if im not gonna use it someone else mite aswell have it, its like imp apocs sitting doing nothing in a hanger gathering dust if i had one of them id use it but a hookbill? i have no use for one so why keep it?
sorry cherry im all out atm 
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.01.12 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Soren on 12/01/2005 17:11:18 Faction ships are like the Gaurdian Vexor (I guess this is a faction ship also...), nice to look at and collectors are proud to say "I have one, you don't".
I was looking at the stats yesterday and was dissapointed to see that they will be nothing more then collectors items besides "maybe" the battleships.
Edit: And BUMP _________________________________________________________
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MatStar
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Posted - 2005.01.12 17:13:00 -
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yere most arnt that good but very good for t1 ships the hookbill would be very nice if t2 ships didnt exist, the navy issue caracal is a good rival to the cerebus. i gave my hookbill to a collector...
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Joe
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Posted - 2005.01.12 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Soren
Faction ships are like the Gaurdian Vexor (I guess this is a faction ship also...), nice to look at and collectors are proud to say "I have one, you don't".
There's one HUGE difference. Gvexors, imp apocs and geddons, silver & gold magnates, and the Opux luxury Yacht were all limited edition event ships. Limited being the keyword.
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.01.12 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Joe
Originally by: Soren
Faction ships are like the Gaurdian Vexor (I guess this is a faction ship also...), nice to look at and collectors are proud to say "I have one, you don't".
There's one HUGE difference. Gvexors, imp apocs and geddons, silver & gold magnates, and the Opux luxury Yacht were all limited edition event ships. Limited being the keyword.
With-in the next 6-12 months we'll probably see more Gvexors then Hookbill's.
Now the imp apoc/geddon, silver mag, the lost gold mag, Opux Luxury Yacht and the Fed megathron, are all in a leauge of their own. _________________________________________________________
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Joe
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Posted - 2005.01.12 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Soren
With-in the next 6-12 months we'll probably see more Gvexors then Hookbill's.
is this based on anything at all? are you a Polaris alt who organises events? is there a patch note i missed? |

DPO Agent
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Posted - 2005.01.12 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Soren
Originally by: Joe
Originally by: Soren
Faction ships are like the Gaurdian Vexor (I guess this is a faction ship also...), nice to look at and collectors are proud to say "I have one, you don't".
There's one HUGE difference. Gvexors, imp apocs and geddons, silver & gold magnates, and the Opux luxury Yacht were all limited edition event ships. Limited being the keyword.
With-in the next 6-12 months we'll probably see more Gvexors then Hookbill's.
Now the imp apoc/geddon, silver mag, the lost gold mag, Opux Luxury Yacht and the Fed megathron, are all in a leauge of their own.
um gvexor's was limited edition to. 50 ships from a hauling event. 5 10 run bpc iirc.
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.01.12 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: DPO Agent
Originally by: Soren
Originally by: Joe
Originally by: Soren
Faction ships are like the Gaurdian Vexor (I guess this is a faction ship also...), nice to look at and collectors are proud to say "I have one, you don't".
There's one HUGE difference. Gvexors, imp apocs and geddons, silver & gold magnates, and the Opux luxury Yacht were all limited edition event ships. Limited being the keyword.
With-in the next 6-12 months we'll probably see more Gvexors then Hookbill's.
Now the imp apoc/geddon, silver mag, the lost gold mag, Opux Luxury Yacht and the Fed megathron, are all in a leauge of their own.
um gvexor's was limited edition to. 50 ships from a hauling event. 5 10 run bpc iirc.
Yeah but they suck, the other ships are actually cool. And another 4 or something were giving out for a second hauling event. _________________________________________________________
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.01.12 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Joe
Originally by: Soren
With-in the next 6-12 months we'll probably see more Gvexors then Hookbill's.
is this based on anything at all? are you a Polaris alt who organises events? is there a patch note i missed?
Maybe I am, but it's just speculation, only time will tell right? Are you upset about this guy making money? Or jealous it's not you? You really seem to be on the offensive here, I'm just stating my opinion, don't attack me for it. _________________________________________________________
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Seewolve
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Posted - 2005.01.12 18:51:00 -
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I will meet this evening the guy who built the first comet and we will go to kill some rats together, just to make some good screenshots of 2 faction ships together. Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2005.01.12 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cole Darkman why should anybody fukc with tech I friggs for 100M when he can use tech II friggs for 1/5th which destroy ten of these at once...
Better save the 100k LP for faction BS which are the only ones worth it...
and you think faction BS is gonna be different?
why should anybody fukc with tech II friggs for 10M when he can use tech I friggs for 1/5th which can destroy these,too.
why should anybody fukc with faction BS friggs for 1000M when he can use tech I BS for 1/5th which can destroy these,too.
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Seewolve
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Posted - 2005.01.12 20:01:00 -
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look at this one ... http://hosted.pb-i.net/EveShips/ Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2005.01.12 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Seewolve look at this one ... http://hosted.pb-i.net/EveShips/
Ooh, more please. _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.01.12 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 12/01/2005 23:20:58
Originally by: Soren I was looking at the stats yesterday and was dissapointed to see that they will be nothing more then collectors items besides "maybe" the battleships.
True, the BS all have double bonusus and awsome stats. The stats for faction frigs are overall pretty good, i just wish they have higher resistances on shield and armor, it might might even make me consider using it in dangerous combat 
Originally by: Excavation Svcs and you think faction BS is gonna be different?
why should anybody fukc with tech II friggs for 10M when he can use tech I friggs for 1/5th which can destroy these,too.
why should anybody fukc with faction BS friggs for 1000M when he can use tech I BS for 1/5th which can destroy these,too.
Because some uf us do our homework and hav seen the (awesome) stats of the faction bs. If you ever see a Navy Raven or Rattlesnake Scorp enter the battlefield id advice you to run  ---------------------------
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Mari Y'Tuk
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Posted - 2005.01.13 00:42:00 -
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Considering I have frigate 5 in 2 races, some of the bonuses look damn fine to me
Anyways I eve-mailed you an offer for the used Bpc
My Production Spreadsheet, Most T1 Bp data, Located here. |

Tobiaz
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Posted - 2005.01.13 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Excavation Svcs
Originally by: Cole Darkman why should anybody fukc with tech I friggs for 100M when he can use tech II friggs for 1/5th which destroy ten of these at once...
Better save the 100k LP for faction BS which are the only ones worth it...
and you think faction BS is gonna be different?
why should anybody fukc with tech II friggs for 10M when he can use tech I friggs for 1/5th which can destroy these,too.
why should anybody fukc with faction BS friggs for 1000M when he can use tech I BS for 1/5th which can destroy these,too.
Because many months later people still remember Grikl for daring to actually fight in an Imperial Apoc (and lose it)
Also Ecliptical had the balls and eventually lost his.
And Tyrrax fought with one of the two most unique ships in the game and lost the Gold Magnate (the Opusx is the other single unique ship in the game owned by I think voogru).
They will all be remembered for their guts to actually use these ships.
Also I can remember several people who have owned the Gold Magnate for a while.
Now I ask you the question: will over a half year people still remember you?
Joshua and Seewolf will be remembered for being the first ones with the Faction frigates. If they would just risk it and lose it, they would really stand out.
That's why people buy and fly these ships.
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Seewolve
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Posted - 2005.01.13 11:32:00 -
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Caldari navy rewards freelancers in good standing and loyal to it with some nice offers . I think i will fly the hookbill and go to some lesser complexes or low evel missions, just for the pleasure to fly it. If one day i get a raven "Navy issue" i'm sure it will be to fly it . Those ships are not made to stay covered of dust in a hangar, they must be flown and show to the world in order to be proud of bearing the tag of the mighty caldari navy.
Finaly i think it was a wrong idea to try to sell it. Iv'e talked with the owners of two other first ones faction frigates and we will soon meet in space, maybe to go to a complexe or some mission together and make really nice pictures if our ships.
Maybe one day we can set up some meetings for rare ships owners, like the "ferrari meeting days"  Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

fantce
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Posted - 2005.01.13 12:15:00 -
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would be nice if the picture was in a english format i cant even get the player. cant read the site
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Chrisb6122
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Posted - 2005.01.13 12:28:00 -
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I retract my bids until someone contacts me ingame to discuss realistic prices, getting bored waiting and don't wanna have isk tied up 
Magnet41 > i kill people ingame because i would take a bigger sec if i killed them in rl |
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