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Uronksur Suth
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Posted - 2010.11.24 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gallion But back to Topic. Id would appreciate it if there was an improvement on inappropriate name usage conditions.
Even more rigorous than what we already have, which I'm assuming is pretty standard in MMORPGs?....
Originally by: Gallion
With-out an excessive use of petitions.
1. Why?
2. I seriously doubt the quantity of name-related petitions in EVE can be described as excessive.
Originally by: Gallion
I Play Eve. I should not have to be flying along and see a player named Inappropriately cause they thought it would be funny.
No, that is not the case. You do not have the right to exist in society and expect us to all conform to your every whim and personal morality like little automatons. If you want to play a MULTIPLAYER game, you are simply going to accept that not everyone agrees with you. End of story.
It becomes even more ridiculous when a system already exists in answer to your complaint, petitions, and you for some obscure reason are not satisfied.
Originally by: Gallion
There is a line of things people should not do.
Which is why we have petitions.
Originally by: Gallion
Maturity Is implied not adultery.
......What?
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 07:59:00 -
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You couldve just voted No a long time ago. It never had anything to just me. But it does include me there are many others that would think the same as both arguments continue. true the name peitions may not be excessive but then why hasnt it been done?
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Uronksur Suth
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gallion You couldve just voted No a long time ago.
I did.
Originally by: Gallion
It never had anything to just me. But it does include me there are many others that would think the same as both arguments continue.
I don't see them here supporting your idea.
Originally by: Gallion
true the name peitions may not be excessive but then why hasnt it been done?
Because if petitions aren't excessive, then coming up with another system would be a waste of time?.....
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:10:00 -
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nice, so Im ranting then? Dont think so. It is not a waste of time since it is a part of this game.
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Whaddahell
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:42:00 -
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Seeing as this game has a "T" rating, certain things are to be expected. Such as "inappropriate" names, among other things.
If you have a problem with it, petition it or stop playing. Banning someone for making a name that is "inappropriate" is completely stupid.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:45:00 -
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how so?
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 08:57:57 so Teen means be inappropriate? I thought thats what 18+ (M+) was... (that would make it adult)This game would require Age Verification if that was the case. This game is teen and in many cases is Language and Vulgar words usage being observed and or restricted. So it is stupid to allow it, Since LITERALLY IT'S NOT!
Nameing Policies
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.11.24 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 24/11/2010 05:02:27Same was said for an idiot called v####a monologue and that char's name was removed.
So I throw your stupid reasoning right back in your face pal.
The point is not whether this game is full of adults or not... majority of which have the brains of kids as it is.
Its whether EVE online should have filth or not.
I won't pretend to even fathom where that line should be drawn... but the fact it keeps getting crossed is the problem.
And furthermore... its not the name or the word...its the idea behind it... and that is what needs to be stopped.
It's really sad to see such intolerance and ignorance being spouted over someone having the freedom to name their imaginary internet spaceship character how they want.
No this game is NOT rated T. This game is unrated because it is online and online interactions are not rated by the ESRB. I'm not sure how you could be unaware of this fact since it is right next to the T and is the policy in every other online game ever.
You logic is astounding. It is almost impossible to find a place to start. You think v####a and crotch are equally offensive terms? What planet are you on? A game designed for children should have more restrictions and games for adults should have less restrictions, that makes sense. Your logic is saying that either we shouldn't put more restrictions on games for children or we should baby-proof every video game. Both are ridiculous. I have also yet to see even the most devout critic label 'crotch' as an offensive term. This IS the whole point of the OP, he is just petitioning any name that doesn't fit his personal criteria, well guess what pal this is everyone's game not just yours.
The end all be all is that if you have a problem with a name then petition it. If you want a system based on your personal views of what is appropriate then you are delusional. Especially when your views of acceptability are so far off what a reasonable person would think.
This is not something against offensive names, those will be dealt with by people petitioning CCP. This is about one guy trying to push his personal standards of what he thinks is a correct character name forced onto everyone else. And you want people banned for making a joke in a video game. Cripes. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Milo Caman on 24/11/2010 11:13:29 Honestly Gallion, I can see your point, but if you really think a name is that offensive, just petition it and be on your way.
The only thing that really gets my back up is the **** crap the pops up now and then in player/corp names and descriptions. If they take a hard line on anything, it should be that.
Edit: N word is censored? ---
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:17:00 -
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@Vaal & few others. Your attacking me? Seriously did u not read the naming policies? Nice speech and all but your just saying that I'm wrong, and clearly I'm not, by saying that more should not be done about it and that since they are ignoring rules put up shouldn't be followed. Stop glorifying your words. This game has its rules, And all Im doing and saying is that more can be done about the rules that are THERE ALREADY. No ones gonna quit because they cant name a character with a Profane word. Im not the only person in this game, Eve Universe that would rather not have to fly and see such inappropriate names. There was something made very important and in Eve it can be in a word "fixed". Being limited to 2 open-petitions doesn't make the "system" work fast at all Since they would literally have to go to each person and change it. As it states in the Policies they can Ban for it. Im not gonna quit the Game Ive probly spent well over estimated 5,000$ C.Dollars playing over the Years (since Beta). I haven't even smoked that much. So I'll mention it again. I would like to see Improvement to Either the Naming restrictions, Or Petitions for it.
Those who think Breaking EULA or TOS is fun or funny, shouldn't be playing it has rules and it fun those rules don't stop me any.
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Carniflex
StarHunt R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:38:00 -
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Not supported. In my opinion EVE should be rated "M". Including non filtered names, even if you .. uh ... happen to be sensitive enough to find them offensive to you. You can always go and shoot him in the face over it. In game ofc.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Milo Caman Edited by: Milo Caman on 24/11/2010 11:13:29 Honestly Gallion, I can see your point, but if you really think a name is that offensive, just petition it and be on your way.
The only thing that really gets my back up is the Newbie crap the pops up now and then in player/corp names and descriptions. If they take a hard line on anything, it should be that.
Edit: N word is censored? not anymore.
Lol. I shouldnt have to be the one to petition it, It should not exist.
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Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Gallion
Lol. I shouldnt have to be the one to petition it, It should not exist.
Regardless, you're asking a lot. Just look at how bad the word filter on the forums is? This is the kind of thing that causes unnecessary problems for a number of people who *do* go with regular names. ---
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Carniflex Not supported. In my opinion EVE should be rated "M". Including non filtered names, even if you .. uh ... happen to be sensitive enough to find them offensive to you. You can always go and shoot him in the face over it. In game ofc.
Sure let see if CCP will agree to making Eve-Online now mature. while we're at it Incarna we could have half-naked character/NPC in the Medical Room.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:43:00 -
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Quote: Regardless, you're asking a lot. Just look at how bad the word filter on the forums is? This is the kind of thing that causes unnecessary problems for a number of people who *do* go with regular names.
No its not. Not hard at all.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:48:00 -
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I find some name fastidious and showing a immature mentality but I don't think that a automated filter will resolve much.
In EVE we speak languages from all the world.
I am almost sure that the word "***ioli" (beans in Italian) will be censored by the automatic filter as the first 3 letters are an offensive term in the USA. [QED]
Filtering every possible offensive word and variations even in the principal languages would block a large number of innocuous terms.
So the most common forms should be censored automatically while the "inventive" ways to bypass the filter should be reported by the players that feel offended and speak the relevant language.
In the meantime we can treat players showing that kind of immaturity like people of their apparent mental age.
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Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gallion
No its not. Not hard at all.
So you're happy to sit down and sift through over 100,000 character names to make sure nothing's slipped through and messed up? ---
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul I find some name fastidious and showing a immature mentality but I don't think that a automated filter will resolve much.
In EVE we speak languages from all the world.
I am almost sure that the word "***ioli" (beans in Italian) will be censored by the automatic filter as the first 3 letters are an offensive term in the USA. [QED]
Filtering every possible offensive word and variations even in the principal languages would block a large number of innocuous terms.
So the most common forms should be censored automatically while the "inventive" ways to bypass the filter should be reported by the players that feel offended and speak the relevant language.
In the meantime we can treat players showing that kind of immaturity like people of their apparent mental age.
where did i mention anything about automated filtering? Cause their aint no mention of such. read up.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Milo Caman
Originally by: Gallion
No its not. Not hard at all.
So you're happy to sit down and sift through over 100,000 character names to make sure nothing's slipped through and messed up?
its more like 4mill by now. and Ive already been doing that. but being limited to "2" open petitions dosent help, not to mention it trunicate the list to max25.
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Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.11.24 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gallion
its more like 4mill by now. and Ive already been doing that. but being limited to "2" open petitions dosent help, not to mention it trunicate the list to max25.
Ah, so you *are* stupid enough to assume that CCP have the time/manpower to do that? Well, that concludes my presence on this thread. ---
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 12:05:21
Originally by: Milo Caman
Originally by: Gallion
its more like 4mill by now. and Ive already been doing that. but being limited to "2" open petitions dosent help, not to mention it trunicate the list to max25.
Ah, so you *are* stupid enough to assume that CCP have the time/manpower to do that? Well, that concludes my presence on this thread.
If respect for the game I lovingly play is stupid, Then yes. Cause they wouldnt even break a sweat. But note that i didn't say Implicit such. |
Sessym
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.24 12:28:00 -
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uhm, 9/10?
0= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'So grab your guns.'
Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
In the MMO world, EVE players are the left-handed lesbian mechanics.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gallion That is why it is here. there can easily be something to work into the system to kill the remain and continued use of Inappropriate names. I love playing eve, not seeing someone making a Joke of a character(within Eve gaming mechanics).
I have taken this as a suggestion for a automated system, seeing how having a GM screening all the names on 300K active accounts, plus inactive accounts, plus corporations, plus alliances and keeping up to date with all the new names being added every day would have a heavy manpower cost.
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Gallion
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Gallion That is why it is here. there can easily be something to work into the system to kill the remain and continued use of Inappropriate names. I love playing eve, not seeing someone making a Joke of a character(within Eve gaming mechanics).
I have taken this as a suggestion for a automated system, seeing how having a GM screening all the names on 300K active accounts, plus inactive accounts, plus corporations, plus alliances and keeping up to date with all the new names being added every day would have a heavy manpower cost.
-simply wrong.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gallion
-simply wrong.
Well motivated reply.
What is simply wrong? The time needed to screen the EVE universe manually is short? There will be no new inappropriate names?
Or, as you had already explained above, that you don't want a automated system?
I have simply explained why I had reached the (wrong) conclusion that you were suggesting something automated and why I feel that doing it manually will be problematic.
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Gallion
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:31:00 -
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so it's hard to change a name? or ban a person? Im sure the complex code to retreive a single ship due to error or Faults is way more tasking then what I've already suggested. Which btw would be the very thing we're still conversing about. I can petition, they'd still have to go about it that is not automated. but if my understanding is correct be no harder then use the window search functions.
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SkinSin
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:49:00 -
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Since when was crotch offensive? Or inappropriate? The last I heard, "crotch" was allowed before the watershed, which makes it perfectly suitable for general use to people above the age of about 7.
Just because you think it is inappropriate or offensive doesn't mean that it actually is. If you think it is, then I'll have to turn to the "I think the name Gallion is offensive" argument. I think I might petition that.
And before you say that my name is offensive or inappropriate, it's the name of a skin cream my sister uses.
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Gallion
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 13:56:29 you obviously you didn't read everything... crotch wasn't the target of the topic. think about the fact that im still sayin it. I know what it means and i know its not a viable word to censor but word of the sexually derogatory are. (the Aim of this topic)
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.24 13:59:00 -
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Gallion, please QQ. This game is too advanced for you. ____________________________________________ POS Management Proposal |
Gallion
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.24 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 14:03:07
Originally by: Zelot Blueice Gallion, please QQ. This game is too advanced for you.
yeaaah ok. read naming policies bud. FyI been playing lot longer then you.
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