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Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 04:44:00 - [1] I was doing some mining in a hauler today, and Saw a Person with the word CROTCH on his name, I decided to petition it realizing it was literally pointless after-words. So this is a topic to bring It up. As minor as it is, I think immediate bans would be the action. there are to many people getting away with Inappropriate Words for names and Im not sure what the Rating of Eve is suppose to be, Granted that there is none of any language Filters. I found over 100 cases of the inappropriate nature. I think this need to be addressed even if it is small.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.11.24 04:54:00 - [2] Crotch is not an offensive term. In fact it is a polite term for that region of the body compared to oh any of the other 50+ terms I can think of. I think you need to chill out and let people express themselves. Seriously, take your fascist ^*!@ and shove it right up your @^!)#@ - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 04:59:00 - [3] Doesn't matter this game is played by younger players. And while it is in the petitions to be reported. I stand Firm on reasoning.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:01:00 - [4] Edited by: Drake Draconis on 24/11/2010 05:02:27 Originally by: Vaal Erit Crotch is not an offensive term. In fact it is a polite term for that region of the body compared to oh any of the other 50+ terms I can think of. I think you need to chill out and let people express themselves. Seriously, take your fascist ^*!@ and shove it right up your @^!)#@ Same was said for an idiot called v####a monologue and that char's name was removed. So I throw your stupid reasoning right back in your face pal. The point is not whether this game is full of adults or not... majority of which have the brains of kids as it is. Its whether EVE online should have filth or not. I won't pretend to even fathom where that line should be drawn... but the fact it keeps getting crossed is the problem. And furthermore... its not the name or the word...its the idea behind it... and that is what needs to be stopped. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:05:00 - [5] thus is my point of addressing this.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:08:00 - [6] I didn't support the idea because I'm not sure banning would even help let alone be effective enough. As it is...its likely too harsh. Losing the name to a generic "Minmatar Citizen 3252352352" is hilarious enough for me. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Drake Draconis I didn't support the idea because I'm not sure banning would even help let alone be effective enough. As it is...its likely too harsh. Losing the name to a generic "Minmatar Citizen 3252352352" is hilarious enough for me. I could support that.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Uronksur Suth Originally by: Drake Draconis I didn't support the idea because I'm not sure banning would even help let alone be effective enough. As it is...its likely too harsh. Losing the name to a generic "Minmatar Citizen 3252352352" is hilarious enough for me. I could support that. Erm... that's what they do... if they find your name unacceptable they use a randomizer on you. Did you think people actually named themselves that? :) tease ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:15:00 - [9] Eve is for Everyone, Id hate to see a loss of player(subscriptions) to parents seeing their Child chatting to some guy named *****111 in the game.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:28:00 - [10] hello, your concern is unwarranted, as this game Eve is rated T- not including actions by players. if "words" offend a teenager they shouldn't by playing online, or games in general, well maybe they should just die. sorry but its true, its a damn word, oh i said damn, im offending you, go cry in the corner, k thanx.

Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:36:00 - [11] no, your missing the point. its not General Language-use. and its not Teen. Eve does aim for the older community but it is for Everyone.
AFK Hauler	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:46:00 - [12] I want to vote No to this idea... No.
KaiserSoze434	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:46:00 - [13] It must have have been an awful long time since you've been a teen if you think they're mentally unprepared for naughty naughty language. I'm not sure if you meant to sound like a pseudo-socialist douchebag, but thats what it comes across as when you capitalize "Everyone". EVE is not for Everyone. EVE is for paying customers who's parents, if they're above recommended age but not adults, are supposed to be taking a hand in their entertainment choices. There is already a system in place to deal with it. If a name ****es you off petition it and if it's a EULA violation it will get dealt with. I certainly wouldn't hate to see CCP lose subscriptions of overly square busybodies because they don't cancel subscriptions of gritty, harsh players in their gritty, harsh mmo. "Aghast the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is."
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 05:52:00 - [14] Originally by: KaiserSoze434 It must have have been an awful long time since you've been a teen if you think they're mentally unprepared for naughty naughty language. I'm not sure if you meant to sound like a pseudo-socialist douchebag, but thats what it comes across as when you capitalize "Everyone". EVE is not for Everyone. EVE is for paying customers who's parents, if they're above recommended age but not adults, are supposed to be taking a hand in their entertainment choices. There is already a system in place to deal with it. If a name ****es you off petition it and if it's a EULA violation it will get dealt with. I certainly wouldn't hate to see CCP lose subscriptions of overly square busybodies because they don't cancel subscriptions of gritty, harsh players in their gritty, harsh mmo. Fair argument. But the names are abusing the EULA and are still being broken. There are lines that has been laid out.
Magnus Orin Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:01:00 - [15] Edited by: Magnus Orin on 24/11/2010 06:01:39 crotch The word is not even filtered on the forums. Seriously bro. Chillax. Bans for name violations? I would have hated to grow up in your household if those are the types of consequences you think are appropriate for the crime. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you.
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:05:00 - [16] Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 06:05:36 whats the first thing that comes to mind when u hear the word "crotch"? and it has nothing to do with my household. Besides I didnt say anything about CROTCH being the target of this topic now did I? Inappropriate names are.
Magnus Orin Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:13:00 - [17] Edited by: Magnus Orin on 24/11/2010 06:13:13 Originally by: Gallion Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 06:05:36 whats the first thing that comes to mind when u hear the word "crotch"? and it has nothing to do with my household. Besides I didnt say anything about CROTCH being the target of this topic now did I? Inappropriate names are. When I think of the word crotch, I think of the place between a person's legs. What is so inappropriate about that? We've all got something there, why is it inappropriate to talk or make jokes about it. Inappropriate names are funny and fine. If you are seriously offended, or think any child's parent who lets them play online games really cares, you need to go back to your bible. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you.
Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:16:00 - [18] You can already report inappropriate character names through petition system. They will be reviewed and, if necessary, the character in question will be renamed to "<CharacterRace>Citizen <DateCreated>" ("AmarrCitizen 20060101"... for example). If you find some name offensive, please file a petition and don't suggest solutions to problems that doesn't exist or already have solutions.
Magnus Orin Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Gallion Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 05:43:44 no, your missing the point. its not General Language-use. and its not just for Teens. Eve does aim for the older community but it is for Everyone. Oh btw, I have an Eve box sitting on my desk right in front of me. IT CLEARLY SAYS T FOR TEEN NOT E FOR EVERYBODY. But nice try. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you.
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:32:00 - [20] there are too many people getting away with Inappropriate Words for names. -there is a petition section for it. I would gladly report them. but this would just make things simpler. Fact is, it aint funny. it is not humorous, its vulgar and it shoots the respects of this game that Other players DO have for it. -has nothing to do with me personally but about respecting the game I PLAY.

Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:40:00 - [21] Originally by: Magnus Orin Originally by: Gallion Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 05:43:44 no, your missing the point. its not General Language-use. and its not just for Teens. Eve does aim for the older community but it is for Everyone. Oh btw, I have an Eve box sitting on my desk right in front of me. IT CLEARLY SAYS T FOR TEEN NOT E FOR EVERYBODY. But nice try. nice try yourself. read again what Ive said thus far.
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:44:00 - [22] Edited by: Uronksur Suth on 24/11/2010 06:44:18 Originally by: Gallion there are too many people getting away with Inappropriate Words for names. -there is a petition section for it. I would gladly report them. but this would just make things simpler. Fact is, it aint funny. it is not humorous, its vulgar and it shoots the respects of this game that Other players DO have for it. -has nothing to do with me personally but about respecting the game I PLAY. Actually, I'm pretty sure complaining about it here is much less effective than simply petitioning them.
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:49:00 - [23] That is why it is here. there can easily be something to work into the system to kill the remain and continued use of Inappropriate names. I love playing eve, not seeing someone making a Joke of a character(within Eve gaming mechanics).
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:50:00 - [24] Originally by: Gallion That is why it is here. there can easily be something to work into the system to kill the remain and continued use of Inappropriate names. I love playing eve, not seeing someone making a Joke of a character(within Eve gaming mechanics). Yes, that system is called "petitions".
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 06:53:00 - [25] Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 06:53:45 sadly, I'm doing that already. but that is kinda being lazy about it. which btw is action. -not a system.
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.24 07:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Gallion Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 06:53:45 sadly, I'm doing that already. but that is kinda being lazy about it. which btw is action. -not a system. You don't consider filing a petition to be actioned by a GM a "system"? What dictionary are you using?
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 07:20:00 - [27] Not the same system that could be implied.
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 07:39:00 - [28] But back to Topic. Id would appreciate it if there was an improvement on inappropriate name usage conditions. With-out an excessive use of petitions. I Play Eve. I should not have to be flying along and see a player named Inappropriately cause they thought it would be funny. There is a line of things people should not do. Maturity Is implied not adultery.
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.24 07:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Gallion Not the same system that could be implied. Yes, one does come to that conclusion considering you've bothered making this thread. Unfortunately for you the current system works just fine. I'd much rather have Incarna, factional warfare fixed, Incursions or any one of a dozen other things than a redundant, additional system for dealing with names beyond petitions.
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 07:46:00 - [30] Its not that hard. would take but mere hours for something to what I'm suggesting and those things are gonna happen regardless of what may or could be done now.

Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.24 07:48:00 - [31] Originally by: Gallion But back to Topic. Id would appreciate it if there was an improvement on inappropriate name usage conditions. Even more rigorous than what we already have, which I'm assuming is pretty standard in MMORPGs?.... Originally by: Gallion With-out an excessive use of petitions. 1. Why? 2. I seriously doubt the quantity of name-related petitions in EVE can be described as excessive. Originally by: Gallion I Play Eve. I should not have to be flying along and see a player named Inappropriately cause they thought it would be funny. No, that is not the case. You do not have the right to exist in society and expect us to all conform to your every whim and personal morality like little automatons. If you want to play a MULTIPLAYER game, you are simply going to accept that not everyone agrees with you. End of story. It becomes even more ridiculous when a system already exists in answer to your complaint, petitions, and you for some obscure reason are not satisfied. Originally by: Gallion There is a line of things people should not do. Which is why we have petitions. Originally by: Gallion Maturity Is implied not adultery. ......What?
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 07:59:00 - [32] You couldve just voted No a long time ago. It never had anything to just me. But it does include me there are many others that would think the same as both arguments continue. true the name peitions may not be excessive but then why hasnt it been done?
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.24 08:00:00 - [33] Originally by: Gallion You couldve just voted No a long time ago. I did. Originally by: Gallion It never had anything to just me. But it does include me there are many others that would think the same as both arguments continue. I don't see them here supporting your idea. Originally by: Gallion true the name peitions may not be excessive but then why hasnt it been done? Because if petitions aren't excessive, then coming up with another system would be a waste of time?.....
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 08:10:00 - [34] nice, so Im ranting then? Dont think so. It is not a waste of time since it is a part of this game.
Whaddahell	Posted - 2010.11.24 08:42:00 - [35] Seeing as this game has a "T" rating, certain things are to be expected. Such as "inappropriate" names, among other things. If you have a problem with it, petition it or stop playing. Banning someone for making a name that is "inappropriate" is completely stupid.
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 08:45:00 - [36] how so?
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 08:55:00 - [37] Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 08:57:57 so Teen means be inappropriate? I thought thats what 18+ (M+) was... (that would make it adult)This game would require Age Verification if that was the case. This game is teen and in many cases is Language and Vulgar words usage being observed and or restricted. So it is stupid to allow it, Since LITERALLY IT'S NOT! Nameing Policies
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.11.24 10:45:00 - [38] Originally by: Drake Draconis Edited by: Drake Draconis on 24/11/2010 05:02:27Same was said for an idiot called v####a monologue and that char's name was removed. So I throw your stupid reasoning right back in your face pal. The point is not whether this game is full of adults or not... majority of which have the brains of kids as it is. Its whether EVE online should have filth or not. I won't pretend to even fathom where that line should be drawn... but the fact it keeps getting crossed is the problem. And furthermore... its not the name or the word...its the idea behind it... and that is what needs to be stopped. It's really sad to see such intolerance and ignorance being spouted over someone having the freedom to name their imaginary internet spaceship character how they want. No this game is NOT rated T. This game is unrated because it is online and online interactions are not rated by the ESRB. I'm not sure how you could be unaware of this fact since it is right next to the T and is the policy in every other online game ever. You logic is astounding. It is almost impossible to find a place to start. You think v####a and crotch are equally offensive terms? What planet are you on? A game designed for children should have more restrictions and games for adults should have less restrictions, that makes sense. Your logic is saying that either we shouldn't put more restrictions on games for children or we should baby-proof every video game. Both are ridiculous. I have also yet to see even the most devout critic label 'crotch' as an offensive term. This IS the whole point of the OP, he is just petitioning any name that doesn't fit his personal criteria, well guess what pal this is everyone's game not just yours. The end all be all is that if you have a problem with a name then petition it. If you want a system based on your personal views of what is appropriate then you are delusional. Especially when your views of acceptability are so far off what a reasonable person would think. This is not something against offensive names, those will be dealt with by people petitioning CCP. This is about one guy trying to push his personal standards of what he thinks is a correct character name forced onto everyone else. And you want people banned for making a joke in a video game. Cripes. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant
Milo Caman Gallente Anshar Incorporated	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:13:00 - [39] Edited by: Milo Caman on 24/11/2010 11:13:29 Honestly Gallion, I can see your point, but if you really think a name is that offensive, just petition it and be on your way. The only thing that really gets my back up is the **** crap the pops up now and then in player/corp names and descriptions. If they take a hard line on anything, it should be that. Edit: N word is censored? ---
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:17:00 - [40] @Vaal & few others. Your attacking me? Seriously did u not read the naming policies? Nice speech and all but your just saying that I'm wrong, and clearly I'm not, by saying that more should not be done about it and that since they are ignoring rules put up shouldn't be followed. Stop glorifying your words. This game has its rules, And all Im doing and saying is that more can be done about the rules that are THERE ALREADY. No ones gonna quit because they cant name a character with a Profane word. Im not the only person in this game, Eve Universe that would rather not have to fly and see such inappropriate names. There was something made very important and in Eve it can be in a word "fixed". Being limited to 2 open-petitions doesn't make the "system" work fast at all Since they would literally have to go to each person and change it. As it states in the Policies they can Ban for it. Im not gonna quit the Game Ive probly spent well over estimated 5,000$ C.Dollars playing over the Years (since Beta). I haven't even smoked that much. So I'll mention it again. I would like to see Improvement to Either the Naming restrictions, Or Petitions for it. Those who think Breaking EULA or TOS is fun or funny, shouldn't be playing it has rules and it fun those rules don't stop me any.

Carniflex StarHunt R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:38:00 - [41] Not supported. In my opinion EVE should be rated "M". Including non filtered names, even if you .. uh ... happen to be sensitive enough to find them offensive to you. You can always go and shoot him in the face over it. In game ofc.
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:38:00 - [42] Originally by: Milo Caman Edited by: Milo Caman on 24/11/2010 11:13:29 Honestly Gallion, I can see your point, but if you really think a name is that offensive, just petition it and be on your way. The only thing that really gets my back up is the Newbie crap the pops up now and then in player/corp names and descriptions. If they take a hard line on anything, it should be that. Edit: N word is censored? not anymore. Lol. I shouldnt have to be the one to petition it, It should not exist.
Milo Caman Gallente Anshar Incorporated	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:41:00 - [43] Originally by: Gallion Lol. I shouldnt have to be the one to petition it, It should not exist. Regardless, you're asking a lot. Just look at how bad the word filter on the forums is? This is the kind of thing that causes unnecessary problems for a number of people who do go with regular names. ---
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:41:00 - [44] Originally by: Carniflex Not supported. In my opinion EVE should be rated "M". Including non filtered names, even if you .. uh ... happen to be sensitive enough to find them offensive to you. You can always go and shoot him in the face over it. In game ofc. Sure let see if CCP will agree to making Eve-Online now mature. while we're at it Incarna we could have half-naked character/NPC in the Medical Room.
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:43:00 - [45] Quote: Regardless, you're asking a lot. Just look at how bad the word filter on the forums is? This is the kind of thing that causes unnecessary problems for a number of people who do go with regular names. No its not. Not hard at all.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:48:00 - [46] I find some name fastidious and showing a immature mentality but I don't think that a automated filter will resolve much. In EVE we speak languages from all the world. I am almost sure that the word "***ioli" (beans in Italian) will be censored by the automatic filter as the first 3 letters are an offensive term in the USA. [QED] Filtering every possible offensive word and variations even in the principal languages would block a large number of innocuous terms. So the most common forms should be censored automatically while the "inventive" ways to bypass the filter should be reported by the players that feel offended and speak the relevant language. In the meantime we can treat players showing that kind of immaturity like people of their apparent mental age.
Milo Caman Gallente Anshar Incorporated	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:48:00 - [47] Originally by: Gallion No its not. Not hard at all. So you're happy to sit down and sift through over 100,000 character names to make sure nothing's slipped through and messed up? ---
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:53:00 - [48] Originally by: Venkul Mul I find some name fastidious and showing a immature mentality but I don't think that a automated filter will resolve much. In EVE we speak languages from all the world. I am almost sure that the word "***ioli" (beans in Italian) will be censored by the automatic filter as the first 3 letters are an offensive term in the USA. [QED] Filtering every possible offensive word and variations even in the principal languages would block a large number of innocuous terms. So the most common forms should be censored automatically while the "inventive" ways to bypass the filter should be reported by the players that feel offended and speak the relevant language. In the meantime we can treat players showing that kind of immaturity like people of their apparent mental age. where did i mention anything about automated filtering? Cause their aint no mention of such. read up.
Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:55:00 - [49] Originally by: Milo Caman Originally by: Gallion No its not. Not hard at all. So you're happy to sit down and sift through over 100,000 character names to make sure nothing's slipped through and messed up? its more like 4mill by now. and Ive already been doing that. but being limited to "2" open petitions dosent help, not to mention it trunicate the list to max25.
Milo Caman Gallente Anshar Incorporated	Posted - 2010.11.24 11:56:00 - [50] Originally by: Gallion its more like 4mill by now. and Ive already been doing that. but being limited to "2" open petitions dosent help, not to mention it trunicate the list to max25. Ah, so you are stupid enough to assume that CCP have the time/manpower to do that? Well, that concludes my presence on this thread. ---

Gallion	Posted - 2010.11.24 12:02:00 - [51] Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 12:05:21 Originally by: Milo Caman Originally by: Gallion its more like 4mill by now. and Ive already been doing that. but being limited to "2" open petitions dosent help, not to mention it trunicate the list to max25. Ah, so you are stupid enough to assume that CCP have the time/manpower to do that? Well, that concludes my presence on this thread. If respect for the game I lovingly play is stupid, Then yes. Cause they wouldnt even break a sweat. But note that i didn't say Implicit such.
Sessym Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 12:28:00 - [52] uhm, 9/10? 0= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'So grab your guns.' Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow In the MMO world, EVE players are the left-handed lesbian mechanics.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2010.11.24 13:06:00 - [53] Originally by: Gallion That is why it is here. there can easily be something to work into the system to kill the remain and continued use of Inappropriate names. I love playing eve, not seeing someone making a Joke of a character(within Eve gaming mechanics). I have taken this as a suggestion for a automated system, seeing how having a GM screening all the names on 300K active accounts, plus inactive accounts, plus corporations, plus alliances and keeping up to date with all the new names being added every day would have a heavy manpower cost.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 13:09:00 - [54] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Gallion That is why it is here. there can easily be something to work into the system to kill the remain and continued use of Inappropriate names. I love playing eve, not seeing someone making a Joke of a character(within Eve gaming mechanics). I have taken this as a suggestion for a automated system, seeing how having a GM screening all the names on 300K active accounts, plus inactive accounts, plus corporations, plus alliances and keeping up to date with all the new names being added every day would have a heavy manpower cost. -simply wrong.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2010.11.24 13:24:00 - [55] Originally by: Gallion -simply wrong. Well motivated reply. What is simply wrong? The time needed to screen the EVE universe manually is short? There will be no new inappropriate names? Or, as you had already explained above, that you don't want a automated system? I have simply explained why I had reached the (wrong) conclusion that you were suggesting something automated and why I feel that doing it manually will be problematic.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 13:31:00 - [56] so it's hard to change a name? or ban a person? Im sure the complex code to retreive a single ship due to error or Faults is way more tasking then what I've already suggested. Which btw would be the very thing we're still conversing about. I can petition, they'd still have to go about it that is not automated. but if my understanding is correct be no harder then use the window search functions.
SkinSin	Posted - 2010.11.24 13:49:00 - [57] Since when was crotch offensive? Or inappropriate? The last I heard, "crotch" was allowed before the watershed, which makes it perfectly suitable for general use to people above the age of about 7. Just because you think it is inappropriate or offensive doesn't mean that it actually is. If you think it is, then I'll have to turn to the "I think the name Gallion is offensive" argument. I think I might petition that. And before you say that my name is offensive or inappropriate, it's the name of a skin cream my sister uses.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 13:54:00 - [58] Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 13:56:29 you obviously you didn't read everything... crotch wasn't the target of the topic. think about the fact that im still sayin it. I know what it means and i know its not a viable word to censor but word of the sexually derogatory are. (the Aim of this topic)
Zelot Blueice XTC Cartel	Posted - 2010.11.24 13:59:00 - [59] Gallion, please QQ. This game is too advanced for you. ____________________________________________ POS Management Proposal
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 14:01:00 - [60] Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 14:03:07 Originally by: Zelot Blueice Gallion, please QQ. This game is too advanced for you. yeaaah ok. read naming policies bud. FyI been playing lot longer then you.

Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 14:06:00 - [61] here i'll make it apparent. Character and Corporation names may not: be racially or ethnically or sexually derogatory; contain profanity; suggest an affiliation with a real-life hate group or figurehead. They may not impersonate a member of the Eve Online team, S&SI staff, CS staff or volunteer corp. Alternative spellings will be viewed with the same scrutiny as traditional spellings. Names used in the game are also reserved and may not be used in whole or part. Infraction of these rules may result in a mandatory name change or ban at our discretion. Note that the list is not all-inclusive and names that violate our rules can be changed by Customer Support staff, even if they could be inserted in the character creation process. That QQ for ya?
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 14:09:00 - [62] Not to long ago there was a campaign to end the Isk spamming. that broke EULA. this topic is no different.
debbie harrio	Posted - 2010.11.24 14:58:00 - [63] I find your name offensive as it is a direct link to neopia which is a peadophiles playground which has links with scientology. 'nuff said.
Nora Skuld	Posted - 2010.11.24 15:31:00 - [64] Originally by: Gallion Not to long ago there was a campaign to end the Isk spamming. that broke EULA. this topic is no different. This topic is entirely different. ISK spammers are ruining the game, people with ridiculous names aren't. It's your problem if you get easily offended. CCP is merely protecting themselves against lawsuits. Current system does the job, there's no reason to do more just to satisfy a bunch of prudes. Petition if you find something extreme, then go back playing the game.
Magnus Orin Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.11.24 17:11:00 - [65] So OP wants us all to be mature and not offend the young kids playing the game with our names, but then expects the same level of maturity from those young kids? Me thinks OP is completely out of touch with reality. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you.
Cearain Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2010.11.24 18:09:00 - [66] I'm sort of on board with the op but for different reasons. I have seen some names that I think help explain why we do not have more women playing eve. Or at least not fcing where they would have to repeatedly say the names of targets. (I'm not saying all women, I'm sure many don't mind but I would think many would not be up for it.) This I agree is a bad thing. But anyway, I personally never really understood the whole "bad word" concept. So I am not overly sympathetic. Where I grew up people would sprinkle "bad words" into their language all the time. I think the focus of any such activity shouldn't be "protecting children" from hearing a bad word, but instead making sure the game isn't obnoxious to certain groups. -Cearain Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906
Flesh Slurper	Posted - 2010.11.24 20:32:00 - [67] Edited by: Flesh Slurper on 24/11/2010 20:35:13 I cant stand people like you. Just because you don't like something, shouldn't mean that no-one should be able to like it. If you don't like their name, which is not really offensive at all, you can choose not to look at it. Just because you dislike the word crotch, doesn't make it offensive to everyone, nor should it be banned. I think you should be banned.. you are an amarr slaver. Your crimes are too great to allow you to exist!
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 20:51:00 - [68] It is not me, its the Naming Policy your attacking. I can bring it up as many time as I like as it is a Policy that MUST be read before playing the game/ creating your character. I dont care if you hate me thats your issues. and this Is eve's By allowing inappropriate name to come in-game breaks the Naming policies that is NO different then isk spamming, for Mature Game it wouldn't be an Issue but there is a NP, and this game is Teen. Teen is ages 13+ thank you very much.
Flesh Slurper	Posted - 2010.11.24 21:13:00 - [69] Originally by: Gallion It is not me, its the Naming Policy your attacking. I can bring it up as many time as I like as it is a Policy that MUST be read before playing the game/ creating your character. I dont care if you hate me thats your issues. and this Is eve's By allowing inappropriate name to come in-game breaks the Naming policies that is NO different then isk spamming, for Mature Game it wouldn't be an Issue but there is a NP, and this game is Teen. Teen is ages 13+ thank you very much. Sure, but you are saying someone should be banned for the word "crotch" in their name. The issue is that where you draw the line for inappropriate and what someone else might, are different, especially for a word like crotch. My parents routinely used that word throughout my childhood and I have no inclination that it is offensive at all, but someone like you believes it is. hell, I am sure your kid has heard the word "Crotch" in school countless times even before they are 13, and I highly doubt any teacher or school administrator would discipline a child saying it. Obviously there are some words that the vast majority of people would find offensive, however for the remainder of them, I don't believe its you or CCPs job to judge their appropriateness. Just ignore it and get on with life.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 21:17:00 - [70] Originally by: Flesh Slurper Originally by: Gallion It is not me, its the Naming Policy your attacking. I can bring it up as many time as I like as it is a Policy that MUST be read before playing the game/ creating your character. I dont care if you hate me thats your issues. and this Is eve's By allowing inappropriate name to come in-game breaks the Naming policies that is NO different then isk spamming, for Mature Game it wouldn't be an Issue but there is a NP, and this game is Teen. Teen is ages 13+ thank you very much. Sure, but you are saying someone should be banned for the word "crotch" in their name. The issue is that where you draw the line for inappropriate and what someone else might, are different, especially for a word like crotch. My parents routinely used that word throughout my childhood and I have no inclination that it is offensive at all, but someone like you believes it is. hell, I am sure your kid has heard the word "Crotch" in school countless times even before they are 13, and I highly doubt any teacher or school administrator would discipline a child saying it. Obviously there are some words that the vast majority of people would find offensive, however for the remainder of them, I don't believe its you or CCPs job to judge their appropriateness. Just ignore it and get on with life. No, go to the begining of this topic you missed some. and what biz do u have judging me for Elborating the NP. NAMING POLICIES

Flesh Slurper	Posted - 2010.11.24 21:19:00 - [71] Originally by: Gallion here i'll make it apparent. Character and Corporation names may not: be racially or ethnically or sexually derogatory; contain profanity; suggest an affiliation with a real-life hate group or figurehead. They may not impersonate a member of the Eve Online team, S&SI staff, CS staff or volunteer corp. Alternative spellings will be viewed with the same scrutiny as traditional spellings. Names used in the game are also reserved and may not be used in whole or part. Infraction of these rules may result in a mandatory name change or ban at our discretion. Note that the list is not all-inclusive and names that violate our rules can be changed by Customer Support staff, even if they could be inserted in the character creation process. That QQ for ya? "Crotch": racially derogatory: no ethnically derogatory: no sexually derogatory: no contain profanity: no suggest an affiliation with a real-life hate group or figurehead: no impersonate a member of the Eve Online team: no Names used in the game: no seems ok to me..
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 21:25:00 - [72] Originally by: Flesh Slurper Originally by: Gallion here i'll make it apparent. Character and Corporation names may not: be racially or ethnically or sexually derogatory; contain profanity; suggest an affiliation with a real-life hate group or figurehead. They may not impersonate a member of the Eve Online team, S&SI staff, CS staff or volunteer corp. Alternative spellings will be viewed with the same scrutiny as traditional spellings. Names used in the game are also reserved and may not be used in whole or part. Infraction of these rules may result in a mandatory name change or ban at our discretion. Note that the list is not all-inclusive and names that violate our rules can be changed by Customer Support staff, even if they could be inserted in the character creation process. That QQ for ya? "Crotch": racially derogatory: no ethnically derogatory: no sexually derogatory: no contain profanity: no suggest an affiliation with a real-life hate group or figurehead: no impersonate a member of the Eve Online team: no Names used in the game: no seems ok to me.. ok, No go further back. you still missing the point. -that this is not a discussion about the word crotch. Its about he Vulgar Inappropriate names.
Flesh Slurper	Posted - 2010.11.24 21:28:00 - [73] what spawned your topic was the word "crotch" in someone's name, which you disliked, and petitioned. So obviously the word crotch made you so mad you wanted to get revenge and ban someone.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 21:38:00 - [74] Originally by: Flesh Slurper what spawned your topic was the word "crotch" in someone's name, which you disliked, and petitioned. So obviously the word crotch made you so mad you wanted to get revenge and ban someone. Sure. lets go with that you people are not very good at this anyway. It would be my proposal to State that OPEN PETITION limit should be Raised. and the Currant inappropriate names that are in game now CAN be dealt with.
Theel Maas The Praxis Initiative Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.11.24 21:55:00 - [75] Incorrect spelling, punctuation, and capitalization annoy me. I live with my disappointment in the human condition just as you should, silently. Well, usually. Perhaps including variations of hamburger in your name should be restricted since hindu consider the cow a sacred creature. Or are we only respecting western sensibilities? Just the other day I saw cheeseburgerdeluxe or something of that nature. Add him/her/it to the list! For some reason some people don't like being called stewardess, preferring flight attendant. Let's categorically stamp out the use of male/female based profession names since they may be considered derogatory. Oh man we can add so much to this list. Or we could be tolerant. You're the one acting immature. Words mean what you build them up to mean. Someone told you crotch was naughty, and like the god-fearing simpleton that you are you apparently went with it. Not everyone feels the same, including plenty of parents. Petition it. Petition all of the names mommy told you were bad. CCP will decide if she was right. This doesn't need to be here.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 22:08:00 - [76] Originally by: Theel Maas Incorrect spelling, punctuation, and capitalization annoy me. I live with my disappointment in the human condition just as you should, silently. Well, usually. Perhaps including variations of hamburger in your name should be restricted since hindu consider the cow a sacred creature. Or are we only respecting western sensibilities? Just the other day I saw cheeseburgerdeluxe or something of that nature. Add him/her/it to the list! For some reason some people don't like being called stewardess, preferring flight attendant. Let's categorically stamp out the use of male/female based profession names since they may be considered derogatory. Oh man we can add so much to this list. Or we could be tolerant. You're the one acting immature. Words mean what you build them up to mean. Someone told you crotch was naughty, and like the god-fearing simpleton that you are you apparently went with it. Not everyone feels the same, including plenty of parents. Petition it. Petition all of the names mommy told you were bad. CCP will decide if she was right. This doesn't need to be here. no. your response to attack me is Immature. Your Ignoring the facts. So I'll elaborate here, By denying anything Ive said during the begining of this topic the player(s) whom have attacked me with glorified words are Interested in Destroying the Rules that CCP placed, and that players whom have gotten away with this should not get punished? That is what Im seeing in every reply that has been AIMED at me.
Theel Maas The Praxis Initiative Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.11.24 22:11:00 - [77] It's up to them to enforce their rules. They have a system in place to allow you to participate in that enforcement by reporting violations. You are free to do so. They are just as free to decide if the instance has broken their rules and merits enforcement of them. A thread in the assembly hall will do nothing to correct the problem that you believe exists. On the other hand, I'm really digging the random capitalization over here.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 22:13:00 - [78] your no better then Trolls by saying anything out of the topic. Which is Somehting should be done about Inappropriate Names In-Game(which is described In their NP). I Play Eve, and I do not attempt to break from the guidelines made and AGREED-Upon when you first start your client & game & character. (which Ill point my finger at more then 90% of you forum readers)
Flesh Slurper	Posted - 2010.11.24 22:18:00 - [79] Originally by: Gallion no. your response to attack me is Immature. Your Ignoring the facts. So I'll elaborate here, By denying anything Ive said during the begining of this topic the player(s) whom have attacked me with glorified words are Interested in Destroying the Rules that CCP placed, and that players whom have gotten away with this should not get punished? That is what Im seeing in every reply that has been AIMED at me. The fact remains that you are using an example "crotch" which does not meet the requirements to have a name containing it removed. Therefore we can conclude that many of the other names that you personally find offensive and claim violate the rules actually don't. All you will be doing is wasting the GM's time. The players haven't gotten away with anything because nothing wrong has been done. They won't be punished because there is no point to punish them.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 22:22:00 - [80] Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 22:23:12 Troll. Read the Policies then come and say that again.

Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.24 23:10:00 - [81] Gallion, have you noticed that you are the only person here upset by this? Seriously, I don't care, and I doubt anyone else does either. If you find inappropriate names this upsetting, that you need to rant in a nebulous thread in Assembly Hall about it, what the heck are you doing playing an MMORPG?
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 23:14:00 - [82] and your not doing the same?
Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.24 23:22:00 - [83] Originally by: Gallion and your not doing the same? Well, lets see: I haven't actually been ranting about an issue nobody cares about, but rather chuckling at you, so I'd say not.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.24 23:25:00 - [84] Originally by: Uronksur Suth Originally by: Gallion and your not doing the same? Well, lets see: I haven't actually been ranting about an issue nobody cares about, but rather chuckling at you, so I'd say not. sorry, wasnt clear with last post. your trolling too? the fact that I did start this topic mean that ther are those who do care there even a few positive replies to my point. but while u "chuckle" at me. this was not the topic.
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.11.24 23:56:00 - [85] Originally by: Herping yourDerp if "words" offend a teenager they shouldn't by playing online, or games in general, well maybe they should just die. sorry but its true, its a damn word, oh i said damn, im offending you, go cry in the corner, k thanx. So I suppose that it should be okay to run around with any name we want, using your logic, and if we don't like it, well, sucks to be us. Or, we could be adults and realize that there needs to be some standards of decency in the game. I think the renaming solution that we have right now is perfectly acceptable though; no need to add a ban on top of it. Fix Rockets in ~~'08~~ ~~'09~~ ~~2010~~ ~~2011~~ 2012?!
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.25 00:25:00 - [86] Originally by: Andrea Griffin Originally by: Herping yourDerp if "words" offend a teenager they shouldn't by playing online, or games in general, well maybe they should just die. sorry but its true, its a damn word, oh i said damn, im offending you, go cry in the corner, k thanx. So I suppose that it should be okay to run around with any name we want, using your logic, and if we don't like it, well, sucks to be us. Or, we could be adults and realize that there needs to be some standards of decency in the game. I think the renaming solution that we have right now is perfectly acceptable though; no need to add a ban on top of it. Except there should be. It was part of the rules they Agreed to when the Client first installs to a computer - to follow all policies. And the renaming only take effect when a Person petitions it. which is where Im going with this topic.
Kalle Demos Amarr Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.11.25 02:27:00 - [87] I find the name Gallion offensive and racist But nice trolling
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.25 03:01:00 - [88] Originally by: Kalle Demos I find the name Gallion offensive and racist But nice trolling Grow up.
helmut cheddar	Posted - 2010.11.25 07:46:00 - [89] Originally by: Gallion Edited by: Gallion on 24/11/2010 06:05:36 whats the first thing that comes to mind when u hear the word "crotch"? and it has nothing to do with my household. Besides I didnt say anything about CROTCH being the target of this topic now did I? Inappropriate names are. Are you like Eve's version of Mary Whitehouse ? what about these names ? crack crevice cleavage melons knob hung stacked salami weener ?
Gallians	Posted - 2010.11.25 08:05:00 - [90] Not sure if serious... of all the things to crusade against in this game, of all the things that suck or are plain broken, of all there is to fix you choose the word "crotch"? I err.. confussd. But just for arguments sake, is there a list of terms someone may find offensive? I don't think such a sensitive topic as bans for offensive terms that seem inocuous to others based on a whole bunch of subjectivity are a good idea. I don't think this should be up to GM's as they are known to act based on their own beliefs and who knows what they find offensive.

Uronksur Suth	Posted - 2010.11.25 08:30:00 - [91] Edited by: Uronksur Suth on 25/11/2010 08:30:21 His argument seems to be that instead of actually developing content, or cracking down on RMT, the GMs and CCP should waste their time actively searching for supposedly bad names in character creation so the player-base won't have their delicate sensibilities offended by having to petition the individual cases. God forbid I should have to see a character with the word "knockers" in their name. My soul would be thoroughly corrupted if I had to actually petition it.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.25 10:08:00 - [92] Edited by: Gallion on 25/11/2010 10:09:20 Edited by: Gallion on 25/11/2010 10:08:06 >.> what? seriously Im not targeting Crotch. As the topic It was the reference for the Topic. and as for referal to the Inappropriate nothing can be said, So as such I stand by the fact having Players named (sorry Moderators) *****111 or vaginalLips. IS NOT BY ANY MEANS something that should be allowed to remain in Eve. you guys are obviously still new to the world to understand the Term TEEN and know the differnse of MATURITY. the Devs/ccp of Eve have not a HArd time dealing with this manpower or automated. Targeting me as the joke here is not the topic. So im gonna level with those who think that what Im saying has any notions of delaying anything with eve's mechanical design. (yes glorified words) Grow Up. Really, Cause Eve isnt a normal Community its got Plenty of Smart players and Demeaning this Game that those who Love it would rather have seen Some improvements no matter how small.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.25 10:14:00 - [93] I stand Firm to the Original TOS, the Naming policey is there. Read that! Crotch is fine, but the referance Is Not.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.11.25 10:29:00 - [94] The punishement is excessive for such a minor issue and since there is already a way to deal with such names, using any more of CCPs time and effort on this seems like an unnecessary waste. Not supported.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.25 10:43:00 - [95] Edited by: Gallion on 25/11/2010 10:43:58 yes your talking about petitioning them. So am I. its not minor it huge. U just wouldnt understand. oh and the punishment was there from the begining.
CommanderData211	Posted - 2010.11.25 11:29:00 - [96] He is right, to a certain degree. When in communication with another player in EVE it becomes unrated. But, it is technically rated teen and by virtue of that fact, the precious sensibilities of a teenager could be destroyed by looking at a profane name in local, without having agreed to any sort of comunicae. However, he is not even really arguing about profanity specifically because he states many times, quite fervantly, that he does not want to expand the catalog of the profanity filter. He is arguing that the petition system be changed in such a way so that he can press on with his crusade to protect the innocent and uphold the law (EULA). Now if we look at it from this standpoint we can ignore the profanity discussion altogether and focus on the real reason that he is the only one supporting his topic. Plain and simple it will waste the GM's time. He seem to scoff at the very idea that this could actually eat up more time than he is willing to believe. In his original post he states "I decided to petition in realizing it was literally pointless after-words". He never stopped to question just why exactly it was pointless. I assure you Gallion that the reason that it was pointless was because the GM's have to address literally thousands of petitions every day. There is a well defined reason that there is a cap on active petitions. Because it takes up time. Now I know that you believe that there are plenty of smart and capable people at CCP (and there are) but they are doing a lot of things all at once and they cannot prioritize naming conventions over game destabilization, even if those names in question breach the EULA. You have stated unequivocally that raising the active petition limit will in no way hinder the process of EVE's development, but what numbers do you have to support that claim. Almost everyone here has elicited concerns over the GM's time management in regards to the amount of petitions they receive. Why do you disregard that immediately? Is it because you really believe that they could withstand any amount of work just because they are smart and capable? Or is it that you believe all of us opposed to your idea are simply trolling it and attacking you? To be clear, I believe this to be a well thought out and cogent argument against your proposal, and in no way should it be construed as a troll or as an attack. I just think that there are ramifications beyond your well-intentioned idea that you have not or are unwilling to consider. On a side note however, I must ask, what did you find particularly offensive about the word crotch? I don't mean to pull this back into another vague discussion of syntax, rather the word itself. It does not actually refer to a part of the human anatomy, vulgar or otherwise. Now, you have a crotch on your pants, and technically you have one between your legs, but the male and female reproductive organs are not a part of it. Sorry everyone for the wall of text.
Aphrodite Skripalle Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2010.11.25 12:13:00 - [97] Edited by: Aphrodite Skripalle on 25/11/2010 12:15:57 You have no problem to destroy a teenagers brandnew hulk in highsec by suicide gankers who buy plexes from real money to pay the losses but you have a problem with someone named crotch ? Thats pathetic. NO. Not supported. If thats the only problem eve has, i can live with names like that. I seriously have way more problems to see native american or english player not being able to speak and write english grammar correctly, because i see my children (i have 3 of them playing eve) learning from them lots of mistakes and slappy language. But i cant change that. I know that i personally cannot write correct english (i am german), but i really would be more concerned about Education of your poeple in your countries. My children can handle bad words, they just laugh about it. I am really more concerned about really bad behavior. Stealing, Scamming, lying, killing other people, destroying alliances... thats the nature of eve in general. And bad behaviour gets rewarded in eve. I think thats much bigger problem for children. They learn from that.
Korg Hammer	Posted - 2010.11.25 12:34:00 - [98] Originally by: Aphrodite Skripalle Edited by: Aphrodite Skripalle on 25/11/2010 12:15:57 You have no problem to destroy a teenagers brandnew hulk in highsec by suicide gankers who buy plexes from real money to pay the losses but you have a problem with someone named crotch ? Thats pathetic. NO. Not supported. If thats the only problem eve has, i can live with names like that. I seriously have way more problems to see native american or english player not being able to speak and write english grammar correctly, because i see my children (i have 3 of them playing eve) learning from them lots of mistakes and slappy language. But i cant change that. I know that i personally cannot write correct english (i am german), but i really would be more concerned about Education of your poeple in your countries. My children can handle bad words, they just laugh about it. I am really more concerned about really bad behavior. Stealing, Scamming, lying, killing other people, destroying alliances... thats the nature of eve in general. And bad behaviour gets rewarded in eve. I think thats much bigger problem for children. They learn from that. Although I don't support the op, if you are going to start pointing out grammatical errors and spelling mistakes, I would look at your own writing first.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.25 13:10:00 - [99] points made. and fer certain others.. still miss the topic. And my Crusade isnt just mine there are others, and many of them don't have time for forums. Petition work is part of their Strive for Excellence, and Holding their rules is part that as well. They are fine with this. That is why there is a Petition category and no change in naming policies.
Theel Maas The Praxis Initiative Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.11.25 13:54:00 - [100] Originally by: Korg Hammer Although I don't support the op, if you are going to start pointing out grammatical errors and spelling mistakes, I would look at your own writing first. She seems to address that with the "i am german" part, conceding her failure to be flawless.

debbie harrio	Posted - 2010.11.25 14:15:00 - [101] Originally by: Gallion points made. and fer certain others.. still miss the topic. And my Crusade isnt just mine there are others, and many of them don't have time for forums. Petition work is part of their Strive for Excellence, and Holding their rules is part that as well. They are fine with this. That is why there is a Petition category and no change in naming policies. I see you didn't reply to my comment about your name being offensive with it's obvious connotations but then you forget that inoffensive names in your eyes may have deeper connections than you first realise, the same applies to what you may find offensive in your language actually has different connections than you have the intelligence to work out. In other words, stop using your questionable morality to sensor other players names when you are doing it from a misguided platform of ignorance.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.25 14:25:00 - [102] Originally by: debbie harrio Originally by: Gallion points made. and fer certain others.. still miss the topic. And my Crusade isnt just mine there are others, and many of them don't have time for forums. Petition work is part of their Strive for Excellence, and Holding their rules is part that as well. They are fine with this. That is why there is a Petition category and no change in naming policies. I see you didn't reply to my comment about your name being offensive with it's obvious connotations but then you forget that inoffensive names in your eyes may have deeper connections than you first realise, the same applies to what you may find offensive in your language actually has different connections than you have the intelligence to work out. In other words, stop using your questionable morality to sensor other players names when you are doing it from a misguided platform of ignorance. No. But now your Just attacking me. Its Sensibility & Maturity. not morality.
Korg Hammer	Posted - 2010.11.25 14:30:00 - [103] Originally by: Theel Maas Originally by: Korg Hammer Although I don't support the op, if you are going to start pointing out grammatical errors and spelling mistakes, I would look at your own writing first. She seems to address that with the "i am german" part, conceding her failure to be flawless. Whilst that is true, its still a bit of a cheap shot to point out someone else is grammar and spelling mistakes whilst making mistakes yourself. Particularly when you cant be sure that the person your correcting is English as well.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.25 14:32:00 - [104] Originally by: Gallion Originally by: debbie harrio Originally by: Gallion points made. and fer certain others.. still miss the topic. And my Crusade isnt just mine there are others, and many of them don't have time for forums. Petition work is part of their Strive for Excellence, and Holding their rules is part that as well. They are fine with this. That is why there is a Petition category and no change in naming policies. I see you didn't reply to my comment about your name being offensive with it's obvious connotations but then you forget that inoffensive names in your eyes may have deeper connections than you first realise, the same applies to what you may find offensive in your language actually has different connections than you have the intelligence to work out. In other words, stop using your questionable morality to sensor other players names when you are doing it from a misguided platform of ignorance. No. But now your Just attacking me. Its Sensibility & Maturity. not morality. which Im totaly fine with since that is your problem. But to put something past your Ignorance. Wrong topic.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.25 14:34:00 - [105] Originally by: Korg Hammer Originally by: Theel Maas Originally by: Korg Hammer Although I don't support the op, if you are going to start pointing out grammatical errors and spelling mistakes, I would look at your own writing first. She seems to address that with the "i am german" part, conceding her failure to be flawless. Whilst that is true, its still a bit of a cheap shot to point out someone else is grammar and spelling mistakes whilst making mistakes yourself. Particularly when you cant be sure that the person your correcting is English as well. no its just just being racist.
irion felpamy Minmatar Assisted Genocide Unprovoked Aggression	Posted - 2010.11.25 15:01:00 - [106] I was going to give you 10/10 (the adultery bit was classic) but then you posted twice in a row showing you are getting more worked up than the people you are trolling so dropped you to 6/10. Good effort however and I am looking forward to your next attempt. /
Werawulf	Posted - 2010.11.25 15:29:00 - [107] Edited by: Werawulf on 25/11/2010 15:31:38 I firmly stand against any and all attempts of limiting what players call themselves. Anyone who has a problem with a particular word should just grow up. It's a word after all. The original post is quite ridiculous considering the word CROTCH isn't even inappropriate. It doesn't matter if their are kids in this game, the majority of players ARE NOT. I have no problem letting someone name themselves whatever they wish or typing whatever they wish into a chat channel. Words are merely a grouping of individual symbols, these symbols have been invented by HUMAN minds. HUMAN minds have invented the meaning behind them. WORDS ARE NOT OFFENSIVE, only little minds choose to take offense to them. Though I do recognize that CCP is a private company and it is within their right to limit communications as they see fit.
debbie harrio	Posted - 2010.11.25 17:01:00 - [108] Originally by: Gallion [ No. But now your Just attacking me. Its Sensibility & Maturity. not morality. I am attacking your ignorance, not you personally. If you can't see that, your own maturity comes into question. I see that you still haven't addressed my concerns that your own ingame name may be distressing to former Neopets players.
Shiho Weitong Caldari Koa Mai Hoku	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:04:00 - [109] Originally by: Gallion Character and Corporation names may not: be racially or ethnically or sexually derogatory; contain profanity; suggest an affiliation with a real-life hate group or figurehead. They may not impersonate a member of the Eve Online team, S&SI staff, CS staff or volunteer corp. Alternative spellings will be viewed with the same scrutiny as traditional spellings. Names used in the game are also reserved and may not be used in whole or part. Infraction of these rules may result in a mandatory name change or ban at our discretion. Note that the list is not all-inclusive and names that violate our rules can be changed by Customer Support staff, even if they could be inserted in the character creation process. So, to jump on you for your own statement. A while back, we tried to have a corp named "Death Kitty" This was deemed offensive due to the implication of the other cat word. The one with P, which we didn't even use. Then we went through the trouble of tryig the word in Latin, ancient greek and even ancient egyptian. Still blocked out due to reference to P-cat. Pretty diligent I must admit. This is where we realized that the language written bears no impact on wether something can be seen as offensive. What I'm thinking here is that your name in my native language can be use as slang for an errected "Richard". Petition sent. (not really, but I do hope you catch my drift) ----------- Why is it called common sense, when it's clearly very rare. I had a mind once, but alas, I seem to have forgotten where I left it. Originally by: Tchell Dahhn You win, and thank you.
Flesh Slurper	Posted - 2010.11.25 21:04:00 - [110] Near where I live, there is a restaurant named "Fuk Yuen" on a main thoroughfare ... I can just imagine someone like Gallion going to the government office screaming to shut them down.

Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2010.11.25 21:08:00 - [111] Edited by: Herping yourDerp on 25/11/2010 21:08:47 there is a place near me called ****'s (word blanks, but its a man's crotch) halfway in its a restaurant if i remember right anyways 110 post 1 support please don't let this ever happen.
Ding Hardin	Posted - 2010.11.25 21:13:00 - [112] Originally by: Gallion I was doing some mining in a hauler today, and Saw a Person with the word CROTCH on his name, I decided to petition it realizing it was literally pointless after-words. So this is a topic to bring It up. As minor as it is, I think immediate bans would be the action. there are to many people getting away with Inappropriate Words for names and Im not sure what the Rating of Eve is suppose to be, Granted that there is none of any language Filters. I found over 100 cases of the inappropriate nature. I think this need to be addressed even if it is small. THIS WILL BE DEALT WITH
Flesh Slurper	Posted - 2010.11.25 21:13:00 - [113] Edited by: Flesh Slurper on 25/11/2010 21:16:21 Originally by: Herping yourDerp Edited by: Herping yourDerp on 25/11/2010 21:08:47 there is a place near me called **'s (word blanks, but its a man's crotch) halfway in its a restaurant if i remember right anyways 110 post 1 support please don't let this ever happen. lol, I used to work with a guy named **(Richard) Helmut. Oh the poor innocent peers at his school! Being corrupted every time roll was called. lol. And my grandma knows a guy named Harold Hoar. Imagine being his mother.
Gallion Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.26 08:58:00 - [114] Obviously things aren't going the way they should so I've already requested this topic to be closed.

CCP Spitfire	Posted - 2010.11.26 10:00:00 - [115] Locked per request. Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online



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