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ps3ud0nym
O C C U P Y
Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:37:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:I think the most apt solution is to make all rookie ships unable to fit a cyno. Then it would be all racialy fair.
Completely agree. Here are some other options which I have suggested:
1) Give rookie ships a nominal insurance pay out and supply them via NPCs at all stations. Do not have Rookie ships spawn when docking or when in a pod with no active ship.
2) Remove Rookie ship spawning in low sec and 0.0 stations and have them only spawn in high-sec
3) Allow player to change their base Rookie Ship spawn with some in-game mechanic such as joining a particular faction in faction war fare
4) Increase the cargo hold of the Impairor by 5.2m3 so it can fit 300 units of Ozone
5) Remove the ability to fit cynos on newbie ships entirely. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:42:00 -
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8 pages of "abloobloo races are unbalanced because new players don't know enough to choose a race based on their possible use of noobships as cyno boats in the future, ignoring that the only people for whom this could possibly be important are not new players." 
This is the worst whine thread I can recall, and that includes the Antiquarian's epic rant about a shirt. Congratulations.
Why did you take my wings away? |
ps3ud0nym
O C C U P Y
Tribal Band
98
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:42:00 -
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Theron Urian wrote:ps3ud0nym wrote:Theron Urian wrote:
The whole thread is you asking for a work around so you don't have to fit that T1 mod. The whole thread is you crying and wanting it exactly your way.
You do realize that just because you say something doesn't make it true. Citation needed. Any one can read the thread and see the evidence for them self. You do notice that on evrey disputed game change there are multiple vocal people on each side? In this thread its just you blowing your own horn and sounding like A broken record. Not a single person has empathy or agrees with you.
Not a single person has addressed the points I am making except to agree with them either. Shall we detail the imaginary arguments that have been presented that I am not making?
1) inconvenience. There was a claim I am upset because i am inconvenience either by training time or cost. Pretty easy to disprove as several of the suggests I have put forward for fixing the issue would invovle considerably more inconvenience than even the current situation.
2) Ship balancing: You especially keep trying to claim this is about ship balance. The problem I am talking about happens before the station environment is loaded, let alone the player finds themselves in space. Ship balance isn't even relevant to the discussion.
Those seem to the the main two arguments that people are pretending that I am making. The details change but generally those are the strawmen being put up over and over and over again. Too bad I never made those arguments.
Page 8 and I can count the number of on-topic posts on one hand. |
ps3ud0nym
O C C U P Y
Tribal Band
98
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:44:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:8 pages of "abloobloo races are unbalanced because new players don't know enough to choose a race based on their possible use of noobships as cyno boats in the future, ignoring that the only people for whom this could possibly be important are not new players." This is the worst whine thread I can recall, and that includes the Antiquarian's epic rant about a shirt. Congratulations.
Nice to see that you have finally came around to agreeing with me! Too bad it took 8 pages of imaginary arguments and pretending that I made them to get there.
Yes, the races are unbalanced. As I said at the very beginning of this thread "It is a minor issue, but somewhat unbalanced". Thank you for agreeing with me. |
Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:50:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:KrakizBad wrote:8 pages of "abloobloo races are unbalanced because new players don't know enough to choose a race based on their possible use of noobships as cyno boats in the future, ignoring that the only people for whom this could possibly be important are not new players." This is the worst whine thread I can recall, and that includes the Antiquarian's epic rant about a shirt. Congratulations. Nice to see that you have finally came around to agreeing with me! Too bad it took 8 pages of imaginary arguments and pretending that I made them to get there. Yes, the races are unbalanced. As I said at the very beginning of this thread "It is a minor issue, but somewhat unbalanced". Thank you for agreeing with me.
Races are different. Different != Unbalanced.
EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
Shaktipat Revelators
374
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:51:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:Then what is your issue? Fit a damned cargo extender and move on with your life. Dear god. Are you completely unable to read? I have repeated my point in every single post I have made. 1) The change only effects people who rolled Amarr as their base race and is therefore unbalanced 2) The place where the player is forced to make a irrevocable choice that has consequences in terms of game mechanics is at a point where the player does not have enough information to make the decision. Please tell me which of these two points your comment addresses and how either of them has anything to do with in-game fitting? At that point the player has been given the information they need to make a informed choice, the problem is they are unable to change it now that they have that information.
The change is inconsequential and there are numerous options for dealing with it if you really feel it is a big deal.
Players make irrevocable choices all the time. The decision about weather or not to play a race that can wear a hood or not is more important than this. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
197
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:53:00 -
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This thread has gone on long enough and has just devolved into ranting. A dev response has been provided and linked to. I will be locking this thread now.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Ensign
Community Communication Liasions (CCLs)
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