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ps3ud0nym
O C C U P Y Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:37:00 -
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I would like to have a response to this from a Dev. I want to know if taking away the ablity to use the Impairor as a cyno ship while leaving the other race's rookie ships able to do so was intentional. If so, is CCP going to give those effected by this change (who might have capitals trapped because they can't cyno to their alts any more) the ability to change their base race? |

Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
438
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:38:00 -
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R E S P O N C E.
No. If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |

Elli M0o
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:39:00 -
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Are you really this stupid or is this a poor attempt at trolling? |

Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
548
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:40:00 -
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Try here Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |

Elvis Fett
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
27
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:40:00 -
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Are you saying there are capital pilots that are now 'stuck' because the only ship their cyno alt can fly is a rookie ship? |

James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:41:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:If so, is CCP going to give those effected by this change (who might have capitals trapped because they can't cyno to their alts any more) the ability to change their base race? I hope your capitals aren't really relying on a bunch of rookie ships. 
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Alexzandvar Douglass
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
75
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:41:00 -
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James 315 wrote:ps3ud0nym wrote:If so, is CCP going to give those effected by this change (who might have capitals trapped because they can't cyno to their alts any more) the ability to change their base race? I hope your capitals aren't really relying on a bunch of rookie ships. 
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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
438
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:42:00 -
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Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:James 315 wrote:ps3ud0nym wrote:If so, is CCP going to give those effected by this change (who might have capitals trapped because they can't cyno to their alts any more) the ability to change their base race? I hope your capitals aren't really relying on a bunch of rookie ships.  Tribal Band
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lanyaie
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:48:00 -
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please tell me the location of thse so called capitals and I'll make sure they are exterminated I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |

Sexy Cakes
Poasting
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:49:00 -
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obligatory :facepalm: |

Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
444
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Posted - 2012.08.09 18:49:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:obligatory :facepalm:
I think your cakes are sexy. If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |

Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:01:00 -
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Cargo Bay Expander I |

ps3ud0nym
O C C U P Y Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:04:00 -
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ITT: many people show they don't know how to read. DEV response requested. Not pubbie sperg wanted. |

Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
453
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:06:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:ITT: many people show they don't know how to read. DEV response requested. Not pubbie sperg wanted.
Your name means... FALSE NAME. If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |

Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University Minmatar Republic
186
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:06:00 -
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I'm so sorry that you can't use a noobship to light a cyno. Go cry more and buy a real ship.
Noob ships being able to light cynos is moronic anyway. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:06:00 -
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Posting in an non-stealth egomaniac thread. |

Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
453
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:06:00 -
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Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:I'm so sorry that you can't use a noobship to light a cyno. Go cry more and buy a real ship.
Noob ships being able to light cynos is moronic anyway.
Said Steven Tyler.
If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:12:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:ITT: many people show they don't know how to read. DEV response requested. Not pubbie sperg wanted. You've already had a dev response linked |

MIrple
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
41
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:15:00 -
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Simple fix to this and would make a few many people happy is to give cynos a fuel bay. let a cyno hold enough LO to light a cyno at lvl 1. Then you can put fitted cyno ships into SMBs. This would make me happy. |

Cadfael Maelgwyn
Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden
71
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:20:00 -
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Because using a T1 frigate for cynos is too much of a burden. |

MIrple
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
41
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:23:00 -
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Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote:Because using a T1 frigate for cynos is too much of a burden.
Its not. Having to take the LO out of a ship to jump it via carrier and then forgetting to put it back in is a PITA |

Xiang Jing
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.08.09 19:25:00 -
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I'm a newbie and even I am blown away by this.
A) There's been a dev response B) Why would CCP essentially remove functionality like this from just one race's rookie ship and leave it for the other three? They wouldn't and didn't. C) Even if somehow, Amarr rookie ships lost the ability completely, what's stopping you from buying a different ship to cyno? |

Pipa Porto
655
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Posted - 2012.08.09 20:01:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:ITT: many people show they don't know how to read. DEV response requested. Not pubbie sperg wanted.
Since you're far too lazy to click a link.
CCP Fozzie wrote:When it comes down to it, cyno lighting on rookie frigates is an activity that we don't explicitly design for. We have no problem with people doing it but we will not guarantee that all the design decisions we make will support it.
In this case we built the rookie frigates to highlight the differences in the races' ship design philosophies, by making the rookie frigates a scaled down version of the kind of stat progressions you'll run into at higher tiers. Amarr ships tend to have slightly smaller cargoholds than other races since they don't need the space for ammo.
In the end we gave all the rookie ships (including the Impairor) a significant buff to cyno lighting since they no longer need MAPCs. The buff to that specific use was not intentional but it was something we knew would be happening and we were fine with it. The Impairor got slightly less of a buff for cyno lighting than the others, but once again I consider that fine since lighting cynos isn't a core use for the ship.
In the end my advice is to stock some expanded cargoholds with your cyno gens and celebrate that you no longer need the more expensive MAPCs. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Haquer
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
113
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Posted - 2012.08.09 20:10:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:ITT: many people show they don't know how to read. DEV response requested. Not pubbie sperg wanted.
Tribal Band member calling people pubbies?
Nice one!
I remember you from TEST jabber. You are the biggest sperg on the internet who is full of the dumbest ideas known to man. Biomass your character. |

ps3ud0nym
O C C U P Y Tribal Band
97
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Posted - 2012.08.09 20:21:00 -
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Xiang Jing wrote:I'm a newbie and even I am blown away by this.
A) There's been a dev response B) Why would CCP essentially remove functionality like this from just one race's rookie ship and leave it for the other three? They wouldn't and didn't. C) Even if somehow, Amarr rookie ships lost the ability completely, what's stopping you from buying a different ship to cyno?
A) I am talking to the Dev right now.
B) Not sure, but they did.
C) Why should only one race have to do this while all the others don't?
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ps3ud0nym
O C C U P Y Tribal Band
97
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Posted - 2012.08.09 20:27:00 -
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Haquer wrote:ps3ud0nym wrote:ITT: many people show they don't know how to read. DEV response requested. Not pubbie sperg wanted. Tribal Band member calling people pubbies? Nice one! I remember you from TEST jabber. You are the biggest sperg on the internet who is full of the dumbest ideas known to man. Biomass your character.
Well, apparently I am much more famous than you. What is it like being completely and totally inconsequential? |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1703
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Posted - 2012.08.09 20:56:00 -
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I am here to spurge in the OP's thread.
Maybe using ships intended for cyno's is what CCP wants you to do?
Spurge complete. Thank you for your time. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |

Lilianna Star
State War Academy Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2012.08.09 20:58:00 -
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So...how long does it take to train up an impairor? |

ps3ud0nym
O C C U P Y Tribal Band
97
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Posted - 2012.08.09 21:06:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I am here to spurge in the OP's thread.
Maybe using ships intended for cyno's is what CCP wants you to do?
Spurge complete. Thank you for your time.
Then perhaps it should be taken away from ALL rookie ship rather than effecting a single race only?
Lilianna Star wrote:So...how long does it take to train up an impairor?
I think you mean a ship other than Impairor. Unfortunately that isn't the right question as the ability being lost isn't one you can train to get back. The question is how can an Amarr player train to get free, ready to go, cyno ships when they dock like the rest of the races? |

Pipa Porto
655
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Posted - 2012.08.09 21:11:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I am here to spurge in the OP's thread.
Maybe using ships intended for cyno's is what CCP wants you to do?
Spurge complete. Thank you for your time. Then perhaps it should be taken away from ALL rookie ship rather than effecting a single race only? Lilianna Star wrote:So...how long does it take to train up an impairor? I think you mean a ship other than Impairor. Unfortunately that isn't the right question as the ability being lost isn't one you can train to get back. The question is how can an Amarr player train to get free, ready to go, cyno ships when they dock like the rest of the races?
Umm, you're not losing any ability. You just aren't gaining one.
And Amarr players could go with Cyno 5, if the 2500 isk for a Cargo Expander 1 is too expensive. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
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