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Dr Chau
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.14 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Greg Huff Life isn't fair, and EVE certainly isn't either.
If you have a T2 BPO that you won in a lottery - Congratulations, consider your loyalty to CCP rewarded. If you bought a T2 BPO - You have made a (potentially hefty) business decision that I hope will pay off for you.
This.
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Linna Excel
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Linna Excel on 15/12/2010 20:03:30
Originally by: Dr Chau
Originally by: Greg Huff Life isn't fair, and EVE certainly isn't either.
This.
Since it's not fair, let's make the people who have BPOs or do inventions cry.
Silly question but if you want a BPO, is it within the rules to put bounties on and pod the people that have them until they fork them over? For example, if alliance X has a few BPOs alliance Y goes to war with X until X defeats Y or Y pummels X to the point they hand over BPOs.
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Carniflex
StarHunt R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Linna Excel
Silly question but if you want a BPO, is it within the rules to put bounties on and pod the people that have them until they fork them over? For example, if alliance X has a few BPOs alliance Y goes to war with X until X defeats Y or Y pummels X to the point they hand over BPOs.
Bounties are poddings are fine although note that your target will need to have negative sec status for you to be able to place a bounty on them. As soon as the bounty exceeds their clone cost they are happy to jumpcone to implant free body and pod themselves with alt for some cash.
You can try ofc. Although I suspect the effort would make people lol not to cry. Thing is those things do not need ever to leave a station. Good luck camping a combat pilot in 0.0 alliance into his station while the innocent looking unnamed NPC corp alt produces the stuff and hauls it to Jita. He and his few hundred friends will surely be terrified ;)
It still amazes me how people seem to think empire war is something more than mild annoyance. I mean even I as an individual, that is not particularly keen on production or trading has a NPC corp freighter alt that is not associated with me in any way. All 0.0 corporations I know of in any depth have several of such characters. Alliances I know of have NPC corp alts that can fly and jump around the jump freighters not to mention the regular ones.
Usual suggestion for new players who join a 0.0 alliance is to make an NPC corp hauling alt for empire. Bestower is even faster to train now that you dont have to train up learnings and it can carry BC size hulls around just fine. Around 20 000 m3 of space if you rig it. Sigil can be nanoed to be relatively agile if cargo need is smaller.
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Eastman Color
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Posted - 2010.12.16 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ghost Creal I have an idea for producing T2 BPO's and it works along the same pricing structure as T1 BPO's this being that you can buy for example a Raven BPO for roughly 1 Billion isk which equates to roughly 15 Ravens, therefore if you introduce the ability to reverse engineer (or what ever you wish to call it) for example golems to produce a T2 BPO it should in theory take 14 Golems reverse engineered = 1 Golem BPO, the same could be done for all t2 equipment and come to that also for t1.
This is just an idea but I think it could be worth looking at particuarly as ccp seems to want to put all items into player control.
Please discuss further.
Short answer no
Long answer
Here's my assumption on how you've come to this
"I want to make T2 items and make lots of profits and iskles" "but there's no or limited profit in T2" "if I had a T2 bpo I could make lots more money because I wouldn't have to go through the bore of invention and everyone knows T2 bpo's are super awesomes"
What would actually happen is lots of people would make lots of T2 bpos, T2 pricing would crash further and you'd all be in exactly the same boat of "no profit in T2 production" in about 3 months time.
Invention is already working phenominally well, just look at the price shift for T2 items, DCU2 used to be about 20-30mil now you can get them for about half a mil.
The limited profit margin comes from a few things, Not checking profitability before starting down the road of invention. Not including datacores in your costings. Doing it "for fun"
in short, the "no profit in T2 production" falls squarely on the sholders of the inventers out there. Just look at marauders and such if you need proof.
terribad idea is terribad
I am not a T2 BPO holder
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Killerjock
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Posted - 2010.12.16 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ghost Creal This is just an idea but I think it could be worth looking at particuarly as ccp seems to want to put all items into player control.
T2 market is already under player control.
Quote: Please discuss further.
No.
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Kahdmazu
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Posted - 2010.12.18 14:49:00 -
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STOP T2 BPO I'm calling to remove all BPO T2 from EVE. It's unuseful to use invention to produce modules T2 BPC. There is too much difference from production by T2 BPO. The two methods are incompatible inside a free market. I ask to convert all T2 BPO in T2 BPC with 1000 run, and multiply by 10 the runs number of T2 BPC produced by invention.
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