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0Virtu0
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Posted - 2005.02.04 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 04/02/2005 21:03:27
Originally by: Kalroth We handled m0o alone, while Foundation was covering themselves in a safespot in Egbinger.
You handled mOo alone? Well technically I'd assume that would be true considering they came down basically once and you had control of B-VIP at that moment. The NAP had already ended by then. Oh, and they engaged you 1:2 odds, so I wouldn't be calling that a huge achievement either. :)
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As for chances of peace, if it was up to me: zero, none, nada. Foundation fscked us over throughly during the last NAP, it wasn't personal before, it is now. And if Keiretsu should ever go friendly with Foundation, for whatever stupid reason, I'll split, form my own corp and keep on shooting at you guys.
Not a very diplomatic person, are we? I'm quite curious of how "Foundation fscked us over throughly during the last NAP" considering most of the stuff that may have happened has the pot and the kettle effect, and the Keretisu in the end were the ones who actually broke the NAP. And personal? Pfft, for what reason may I ask has what your leaders have told you has made this a "personal" war to you?
Oh, and Neekol, what part of grow up and use your main character when you post like this don't you understand?
Note: Blah blah blah yeah disclaimer, my opinions may not reflect off others, yadadada, I need a sig graphic for this. ---------------------------------- I play EvE and I don't even get a stupid signature. |

shooting dutchman
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Posted - 2005.02.04 21:08:00 -
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I think it's best to let the leaders of both parties talk with eachother.
They speak on behalve of us, so they can decide what is best.
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Paganic
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Posted - 2005.02.04 21:47:00 -
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Its soooo hard to read these posts and see all the BS some ppl from Foundation are spewing all over this place 
But since nothing I write here will change ppls minds Ill just not comment on it 
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.02.05 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: 0Virtu0 Oh, and they engaged you 1:2 odds, so I wouldn't be calling that a huge achievement either.
They outnumbers us in inty's and BS'.
We outnumbered them with 4 cruisers, so yes - I would call it an achivement.
- *** pure moinage ***
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Scifi
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Posted - 2005.02.05 01:52:00 -
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I still want to know how people get off with saying that ALTZ brought all their carebear miners down and cleaned the place out. It's an inaccurate statement, I'm one of the biggest carebear miners in there and I never once had a mining laser equipped south of a .4.
Maybe that means I'm not a carebear! Wh00-h00! Anyway, just wanted to clarify that, back to work...
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2005.02.05 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 05/02/2005 08:19:34
Originally by: Kalroth INFOD, you are not a neutral corp, your members have been flying with Foundation and shooting at Keiretsu, so don't be fooling yourself as "neutral diplomats". We handled m0o alone, while Foundation was covering themselves in a safespot in Egbinger.
As for chances of peace, if it was up to me: zero, none, nada. Foundation fscked us over throughly during the last NAP, it wasn't personal before, it is now. And if Keiretsu should ever go friendly with Foundation, for whatever stupid reason, I'll split, form my own corp and keep on shooting at you guys.
If I have anything to say in Keiretsu politics, there's zero chance of making peace. Unless you chose to join Keiretsu of course, then my hands are tied.
Infod Memebers are free to do as they please. 2(!) pilots where interested in going down and helping alcatraz and both later joined alcatraz. If given the choise and actually going back to politics, we WOULD stand neutral.
However, The foundation has been kind enough and not tried to gank our ships (its called old friendship and used to be between many F and K corps aswell) unlike many Keiretsu pilots. I did meet one Keiretsu pilot however (whos name will be unsaid) who was kind enough to leave me alone while traveling and i had a good chat with him. There are cool pilots and resonable ppl from both sides, but as in any alliance, there are also warmogerers in both camps.
But again, if INFOD members go to the GW and shoot K or F members or both its their own personal will, we have no agenda or treaty with any side. The ppl that wanted to join the conflict joined Alcatraz. INFOD are pirates, and we "YARRR" on TS all night long.   ------------------------------------------------
We are the bringers of hatred! |

Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.02.05 12:26:00 -
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so basiclly whats going on down there is this.
both side call the other names and say they started the ****. and instead of solving that and become a big nice alliance there could control GW u keep calling eacother names...
sadness me to see this going on to the GW maybe some should start thinking of the region ;)
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2005.02.05 13:01:00 -
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Not much to do J man. All you can hope now is that they fight it out and leave the smack/namecalling/whining/propaganda out of it. Because its really embaresing.
Just fight, clean and easy. ------------------------------------------------
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.02.05 14:13:00 -
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welll i migth take a peak down there to see how bad it is, just for the fun of it ;)
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2005.02.05 14:41:00 -
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I was down there a week or so ago doing some npc hunting while avoiding gatecamps and gankagefleets. Wasnt that many pilots around though.
Lemme know and ill join ya. ------------------------------------------------
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Seth Killbain
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Posted - 2005.02.05 20:30:00 -
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Its all good fun, and i personnaly only engage when the red thing in the whatdoyacallit gidyeryflop flashes. The politics aint mine as my corp joined after the conflict went off, and so i shall not be committing my full time or assets until i know whats going on. Good experiance tho, lost a couple of ships, generally good pvp no smack. Just expressing my opinion incase you should meet me, not personnal if i target you, its cos your making my box do its flashy thing again.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.02.05 20:48:00 -
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red flashing or not...
my overwiev is set so anything that appear on it is KOS isent liofe just simpel ;)
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Seth Killbain
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Posted - 2005.02.05 20:52:00 -
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Aye, exactly, just couldnt think of what the whatchamacallit was hehe =)
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Blitz0r
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Posted - 2005.02.06 03:45:00 -
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some FYI to all you bistanders..
The smack is on this forum, there's really not THAT much smack in the game, we comment eachothers wins and losses and say good job, nice trap etc etc.
Then of course occationally some discussions arise in the chats too :).
Had some nice fights today in Egbinger, kudos to everyone.
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Bill Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.02.07 08:56:00 -
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Edited by: Bill Kheynes on 07/02/2005 08:57:15
Why did Flounderation have to make such a mess in local.
[ 2005.02.06 23:04:48 ] munchy > blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahb... [ 2005.02.06 23:04:51 ] chefron > weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [ 2005.02.06 23:04:52 ] Vicath > yhe number 1 hit tbh [ 2005.02.06 23:04:53 ] ikroz > tools [ 2005.02.06 23:04:58 ] Ilmonstre > oooooohh nice songh its catchy [ 2005.02.06 23:04:58 ] Cyan Gadarin > blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah b... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:01 ] munchy > blahblahblahblah [ 2005.02.06 23:05:01 ] Shalmaneser ili > upset about that apoc huh munch.. [ 2005.02.06 23:05:01 ] Mchalin > blah balh [ 2005.02.06 23:05:03 ] Cyan Gadarin > blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah b... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:05 ] ikroz > foundation is a gret big toolbox [ 2005.02.06 23:05:06 ] munchy > blahblahblahblah [ 2005.02.06 23:05:06 ] StarshipTrooper > blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bla... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:06 ] Ilmonstre > too mucg cyan [ 2005.02.06 23:05:07 ] Mchalin > blah blah blah blah blah blah [ 2005.02.06 23:05:08 ] Cyan Gadarin > blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah b... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:11 ] munchy > blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah [ 2005.02.06 23:05:11 ] Ilmonstre > you went out of sync [ 2005.02.06 23:05:13 ] Cyan Gadarin > blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah b... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:16 ] munchy > blah blah blah [ 2005.02.06 23:05:17 ] StarshipTrooper > blah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahb... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:18 ] Cyan Gadarin > blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah b... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:20 ] Ilmonstre > dont copy past man [ 2005.02.06 23:05:21 ] Z1LCH > SUPERBOWL GUYS! NOW! [ 2005.02.06 23:05:21 ] munchy > blah blah blah [ 2005.02.06 23:05:21 ] Shalmaneser ili > nice alliance mates you have alfie.... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:24 ] Cyan Gadarin > blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah b... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:25 ] chefron > blah balh balh [ 2005.02.06 23:05:25 ] Ilmonstre > thats lame [ 2005.02.06 23:05:26 ] munchy > blah blah blahblah blah blah [ 2005.02.06 23:05:29 ] Cyan Gadarin > blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah b... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:29 ] Haceviudas > blah? [ 2005.02.06 23:05:31 ] munchy > blah blah blah [ 2005.02.06 23:05:32 ] ikroz > its tooltime in foundation land [ 2005.02.06 23:05:34 ] Cyan Gadarin > blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah b... [ 2005.02.06 23:05:35 ] Ilmonstre > am i getting a new fanclub now [ 2005.02.06 23:05:35 ] Deathblow > BLAH? [ 2005.02.06 23:05:36 ] munchy > blah blah blah [ 2005.02.06 23:05:37 ] Gridzilla > blah bl |

DUFFMANX
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Posted - 2005.02.07 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: DUFFMANX on 07/02/2005 09:02:53 ROFLMAO Omg u owe my workplace a new keyboard , that was so stupidly funny to read. |

Bill Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.02.07 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: DUFFMANX Edited by: DUFFMANX on 07/02/2005 09:02:53 ROFLMAO Omg u owe my workplace a new keyboard , that was so stupidly funny to read.
Well duffmanx, thats actuly only a small fraction of what they spouted, my log for this event will take 5 post atleast to put here.
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DUFFMANX
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Posted - 2005.02.07 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Bill Kheynes
Originally by: DUFFMANX Edited by: DUFFMANX on 07/02/2005 09:02:53 ROFLMAO Omg u owe my workplace a new keyboard , that was so stupidly funny to read.
Well duffmanx, thats actuly only a small fraction of what they spouted, my log for this event will take 5 post atleast to put here.
K Mr.Alt who dont got the balls to post with his main i believe u totally missed why i found that post so funny. I dont know why u found it so important to post bout a few guys havin a laugh but then again u may be a borin ol' coote with a dry sense of humour. I think it totally lame u posted that chat log and the fact u hide behind an alt to do so, this is why that post was so funny to look at. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
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Zster
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Posted - 2005.02.07 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: Zster on 07/02/2005 13:32:55 I don't see how "blah blah" is smack talking as the Alt is trying to post right below Blitxor's fine post. I hope we can post constructive posts about the conflict in GW. If someone is mad about others being childish about a ship loss, why not hop into a ship and give them the 1 2? It is a waste of forums space to post these trivial chat logs. The chat log posted is the first time I've ever seen Foundation members even wasting their time talking in local, if it is a real chat log. Both sides fight honorably and with cunning. I look forward to our continued conflict. --------------------------------------------------- (\_/) Is this bunny or Picachu? (O.o) Beware the bunny w/BIG sharp teeth (< >) Zster's kills |

munchy
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Posted - 2005.02.09 04:35:00 -
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Edited by: munchy on 09/02/2005 04:37:12 tis a real chatlog, and it was hilarious doing it. =P
but the reason we did that was because keiretsu had been smacking us for like 20 minutes strait and we were getting bored of it. worked pretty well i think =D
note ilmostres attmept at smacking most of the way through
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Mchalin
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Posted - 2005.02.11 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: munchy Edited by: munchy on 09/02/2005 04:37:12 tis a real chatlog, and it was hilarious doing it. =P
but the reason we did that was because keiretsu had been smacking us for like 20 minutes strait and we were getting bored of it. worked pretty well i think =D
note ilmostres attmept at smacking most of the way through
Yeah it did they couldnt talk in local so they left, and later filed a petition and one of our members was gagged for 3 hours. That was petty. Reading it again makes me bust a nut laughing, I wish someone had the whole thing from right before it started till they finally left.
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Mchalin
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Posted - 2005.02.11 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Mchalin on 11/02/2005 00:18:30
Originally by: Scorpyn Keiretsu : EU time zone heavy Foundation : US time zone heavy
Keiretsu is complaining that Foundation didn't help when m0o got there. Am I right when guessing that they got to the area at EU time?
When moo came the nap was already over my old friend. We werent even around. Some jerk off corp came down the day before, i gathered some ships, gangs got mixed, coms sucked, I said lets seperate and poof,theres your reason or proof that we wouldnt defend. See how easy that is. Mch
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teboo
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Posted - 2005.02.11 07:49:00 -
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If I'm not mistaken m00 have been around more than once and yes one of those times was doing the nap. but yeah they also came after the nap.
I don't know where people the got idea that it was the fact that foundation didn't help fight to be the big problem, as I see the setting up a POS witch was agianst nap rules and strip mining in the system witch keiretsu have a POS in to be somewhat more important.
Most of what I see in this threat is simply people that just want to post, instead maybe people should try and see if their post help anything or anyone before they post.
So please if you got something to post, let it be updates or event's instead of "WTFIGOTGAGGEDFORSPAMMINGLOCAL" post.
Or maybe a new treat need's to be made, I'll think about it.
Another Idea would be that officials post and everyone else "STFU".
Remember I'm just a friendly  - I'm a lover  Not a hater 
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EagleFour
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Posted - 2005.02.11 11:40:00 -
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EagleFour
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Posted - 2005.02.11 11:51:00 -
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i posted a list of suggestions i thought would benefit all it was about a page long.... when i clicked submit the above post was what was left. I am really disappointed it took me nearly an hour.... ill try to repost it later. JOBS - Got Moin?
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.02.11 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: EagleFour i posted a list of suggestions i thought would benefit all it was about a page long.... when i clicked submit the above post was what was left. I am really disappointed it took me nearly an hour.... ill try to repost it later.
that sucks tbh  -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Blitz0r
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Posted - 2005.02.15 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mchalin Edited by: Mchalin on 11/02/2005 00:18:30
Originally by: Scorpyn Keiretsu : EU time zone heavy Foundation : US time zone heavy
Keiretsu is complaining that Foundation didn't help when m0o got there. Am I right when guessing that they got to the area at EU time?
When moo came the nap was already over my old friend. We werent even around. Some jerk off corp came down the day before, i gathered some ships, gangs got mixed, coms sucked, I said lets seperate and poof,theres your reason or proof that we wouldnt defend. See how easy that is. Mch
I personally believe that you as top of Alcatraz SHOULD have done more to help in the NAP, as you said you were moving ships, comms sucked? yeah. try to be on the mutual TS it would help, i dont even see you as a regged member of that, i also heard that you were actively working against the NAP by telling members to NOT be in gangs nor the MUTUAL teamspeak server that was set up for this NAP.
It's never a single members fault that a NAP fail, it can always be worked out by the top of the alliance if needed or the CEO's, but for a leader of the founding/leading corp in a "alliance/group of corps" to work against the NAP is just plain stupid.
If we want a working NAP the head of both group needs to CALM DOWN - drop the prestige - focus on whats ahead.
I know for sure there are some members on both sides that is REALLY against the idea of the NAP and working together, but tbh i dont want a NAP, if we're doing it we are forming up together to face the same goals.
This is my statement not a official Keiretsu statement.
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Seth Killbain
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Posted - 2005.02.15 15:32:00 -
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Totally agree, a NAP in the situation we are all in is just plain daft, it would be better to just pool our resources completely, i think we would be willing, its Foundation that wont. So what do we do?
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Hepatitis
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Posted - 2005.02.15 17:02:00 -
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didnt HSY join after the nap? ----------------------------------------- I am a forumaholic. |

Seth Killbain
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Posted - 2005.02.15 17:08:00 -
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Aye but since any wars or conflict arising from the situation now directly affect us, i believe i am entitled to express an opinion 
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