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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.10 23:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
There is going to be a discussion of RMT during at least one session at the December CSM Summit next week. RMT and botting are issues that are of interest to more than a few members of the CSM.
CCP Wrangler made it sound more like a discussion about RMT ONLY, can you confirm if it will include a discussion on botting that DOESNT involve RMT.
Also since people are focused on macro ratting, can you make sure all forms of botting are discussed, I would hate to see macro miners and macro haulers ignored.
Originally by: Kool StoryBro
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Quin Dar
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Posted - 2010.12.11 00:01:00 -
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After reading this post about how so many players make billions of isk without any hard work, I decided to by few bots to all my accounts.
I want too billions of isk every day. And when I sleep - bots will make it for me.
If others botting, why I need to make isk like idiot in hard way and sit near computer for many hours every day?! I will bot too.
...I go to search that link to site where I can buy a good bot for all my accounts.
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2010.12.11 00:33:00 -
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Supported, of course.
No point in having rules if they're not going to be enforced.
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D Bogart
Diplomatic Disruption
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.12.11 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Quin Dar
After reading this post about how so many players make billions of isk without any hard work, I decided to by few bots to all my accounts.
I want too billions of isk every day. And when I sleep - bots will make it for me.
If others botting, why I need to make isk like idiot in hard way and sit near computer for many hours every day?! I will bot too.
...I go to search that link to site where I can buy a good bot for all my accounts.
You and everyone else if CCP comes out looking like they don't give a Sh*t about it.
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2010.12.11 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
CCP Wrangler made it sound more like a discussion about RMT ONLY, can you confirm if it will include a discussion on botting that DOESNT involve RMT.
The two topics have a large degree of overlap; at this point, it is impossible to say whether they will be discussed together, separately, or a combination.
Within the framework of the meeting sessions, CSM summits are very organic. Consider for example how the hot topic in October was microtransactions, and how it got discussed in several sessions.
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Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2010.12.11 12:21:00 -
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My enthuasiasm diminished thoroughly when I noticed a system I use to live in was over ruled by bots in high sec. It was bad back then but not nearly all the population of the system is bots. A directional scan results nearly all Mackinaws and Hulks and when you go to locate them out of about 30, 29 of them are on an ice belt in npcs corps day in day out.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.11 12:25:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Originally by: Kalle Demos
CCP Wrangler made it sound more like a discussion about RMT ONLY, can you confirm if it will include a discussion on botting that DOESNT involve RMT.
The two topics have a large degree of overlap; at this point, it is impossible to say whether they will be discussed together, separately, or a combination.
Within the framework of the meeting sessions, CSM summits are very organic. Consider for example how the hot topic in October was microtransactions, and how it got discussed in several sessions.
While I appreciate the subtle 'we are going to stick our head in the sand for botting for now' reply, do explain what the hot topic is right now? Is it RMT or is it botting, because the replies that we are seeing seem to yet again ignore botting and focus on RMT.
Originally by: Kool StoryBro
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Cire XIII
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2010.12.11 12:30:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Botting isnt a new thing, why exactly did a kugu article need to get you people to realise how badly people bot.
Supported!
Removed accusations of botters, those are better suited to a petition. Zymurgist
Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Our problems are server-side.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr
Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.11 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cire XIII
Originally by: Musical Fist
Botting isnt a new thing, why exactly did a kugu article need to get you people to realise how badly people bot.
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Removed accusations of botters, those are better suited to a petition. Zymurgist
Good point tbh, an article shouldnĘt make people aware of how ******ed things are
CCP ARE already DEALING with RMT, these botting sites have a **** load of a "we got banned from selling ISK" on them anyway, people are always getting reversed ISK.
We are aware CCP focus on RMT, what is concerning is that they only seem to focus on RMT, I am starting to believe the rumours that have been flying around for months now that say CCP will ONLY ban RMT and will ignore botters in general.
Another thing to mention, RMT is really easy through botting not the other way around, banning people that RMT will still allow their bots to run, their bots will continue to provide ISK for buyers, the only difference would be more reversals.
I think if CCP ignore botting, people should just give up and resort to one form of income, I look forward to hearing what CCP have to say next week, but somehow I doubt it will affect botting. At least allow us to see additional stats on the map, rich NPC systems (like DOTLAN) if CCP are going to ignore botting give us quick easy tools to counter them ourselves :P
Originally by: Kool StoryBro
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gyx rop
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Posted - 2010.12.11 14:51:00 -
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I constantly hear russian put the bot, russian unemployed and so on. Indeed constantly see bot which are connected with europeans, usa.
i think ccp knows much more about rmt than we are... i think some ppl in ccp selling isk on ebay. i think they use not only bots. exploits too.
have fun. 
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Niyrah
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Posted - 2010.12.11 15:18:00 -
[101]
Yes
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Dariah Stardweller
NO U111 Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.12.11 15:31:00 -
[102]
SPAM BOT SUPPORTING THIS THREAD
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Vespoi Filar
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Posted - 2010.12.11 15:55:00 -
[103]
we definitely need unholy rage II, III, and IV!
Screw it... how about a neverending unholy rage!
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Miss President
Caldari
SOLARIS ASTERIUS
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Posted - 2010.12.11 16:13:00 -
[104]
yes
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Morleyka RUS
Alternative Innovations
Unknown and Beyond
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Posted - 2010.12.11 16:27:00 -
[105]
support
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Oguras
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.11 18:15:00 -
[106]
Support
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Jasdemi
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Posted - 2010.12.11 18:38:00 -
[107]
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Carver DiGriz
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2010.12.11 19:22:00 -
[108]
Supported.
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Kireiina
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Posted - 2010.12.12 00:29:00 -
[109]
One side of a fight having infinite Isk breaks the game and the assumption it is rampant (although I believe it actually is) discourages people for investing into Eve.
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Serendipity Jr
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Posted - 2010.12.12 01:46:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Serendipity Jr on 12/12/2010 01:46:23
support
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Ranka Mei
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Posted - 2010.12.12 02:09:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Ranka Mei on 12/12/2010 02:12:26
Originally by: De'Veldrin
If nothing else, I think CCP needs to address the concerns the legitimate player base have in regards to the new perception of this problem. And this needs to go beyond vague reassurances of "we know, we're working on it."
Which is precisely why we're not hearing from CCP. What they'd like to say ("We love botters, cuz they make our wallets fat!") they can't say; and what they should say ("We're taking care of it!") isn't true.
+1 on the proposal.
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Kirian Kador
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2010.12.12 06:38:00 -
[112]
Botting is travesty, EvE is becoming a travesty. If you think new players will want to play the game overun by bots you are terribly wrong. Unfortnately more often than not they are clueless, but that can change quickly if some veterans can be asked to organize enlightment campaigns...
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Suchechka
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Posted - 2010.12.12 06:43:00 -
[113]
Support
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2010.12.12 08:15:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Originally by: Kalle Demos
CCP Wrangler made it sound more like a discussion about RMT ONLY, can you confirm if it will include a discussion on botting that DOESNT involve RMT.
The two topics have a large degree of overlap; at this point, it is impossible to say whether they will be discussed together, separately, or a combination.
Sorry Treb, but the two are orthogonal, you don't have to bot to rmt, nor is someone who bots forced to rmt. Sure, often they work hand in hand, but the reasons and implications are distinct.
Except for the account hacking I don't give a damn about rmt. However, I am strongly annoyed by botting because a) it screws with the market and b) with near unlimited supply of isk there is no risk anymore, which makes winning and losing in eve meaningless, nullifying one of its key strong points.
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Orny
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Posted - 2010.12.12 08:44:00 -
[115]
Supported!
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Tosiki Kaifu
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Posted - 2010.12.12 08:49:00 -
[116]
After reading article EVE become looking like a game for group of people that makes real money, and other players are only the way to make money. It must be stopped!
Support
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gramafon
White Noise.
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Posted - 2010.12.12 09:20:00 -
[117]
+
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DeeGree
Solar Dragons
SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2010.12.12 10:07:00 -
[118]
Edited by: DeeGree on 12/12/2010 10:08:44
Support
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Purpura
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Posted - 2010.12.12 10:19:00 -
[119]
support
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SubContact
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Posted - 2010.12.12 10:20:00 -
[120]
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