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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.15 15:57:00 -
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EVE Online Incursion 1.0.1 has been deployed. It includes the removal of learning skills, updates to the Neural Remap window, and the Echelon. Please specify which client you are using (Mac or PC). In addition to this release there is a client update to fix a minor issue with the petitioning system. We highly recommend accepting this update.
EVE Online Incursion is being released in three parts. This is the second installment with the final release coming January 2011. The final release will include the character creator and Sansha incursion. Full details of this can be found in CCP Zulu's blog.
Tomorrow we plan to release Incursion 1.0.2. Additional details will be announced in the player news center soon.
This thread is for issues. If you have general feedbacks please use this link.
Important update: We intended to give every character a free neural remap as part of the Incursion 1.0.1 release. We have been made aware that not every character has received a free remap and we will aim to fix this during downtime on Thursday, December 16. We thank you for your patience.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.12.15 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Im Blue on 15/12/2010 16:11:57 over 6 accounts all had open remaps. 3 now have 3 remaps 2 have 1 and 2 have the normal remap now option.
what are they ment to have?
edit to add, on my main account both crappy cyno alts ahve 3 remaps but my main has gained none, can i petition to get 2 of these moved added to him, cos that would be awesom
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Jeddeita
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:02:00 -
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Have some char's with remaps, others without. Looks bugged :(
Also, I thought base attribs was 20/20/19/20/20? Mine still shows 17/17/17/17/17 as base in the attribs window. Could just be me being daft though ---------- EVEStuff.net - High Quality Corp & Alliance Web Hosting |
Rae Todomi
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:04:00 -
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I'm having the Bulk Data problem that seems to plague patches for me. This time, it gets stuck at 21/46. Any zip files for the bulk data to dl? Thanks.
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Sedilis
Lead Farmers
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jeddeita Have some char's with remaps, others without. Looks bugged :(
Also, I thought base attribs was 20/20/19/20/20? Mine still shows 17/17/17/17/17 as base in the attribs window. Could just be me being daft though
Also got toons with missing remaps at all base set at 17
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Deeme Zeux
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:07:00 -
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I'm using windows 7 Downloaded new patch, nothing is working.. the message sais to many files in the Eve instalation.. you must reboot your computer. I did that to times, the same **** happens.. :(
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Lord Matrix
Flying Banana Squad
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:07:00 -
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How come some people received a free remap but I didn't?
3/4 pure lunatic, 1/4 absolute genius |
Lopsy Lu
Funky Bass Line
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:07:00 -
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Quote: Also, I thought base attribs was 20/20/19/20/20? Mine still shows 17/17/17/17/17
Me too. Hopefully it's a bug.
Hopefully.
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Rose Nuke
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Rose Nuke on 15/12/2010 16:08:05
Originally by: Lopsy Lu
Quote: Also, I thought base attribs was 20/20/19/20/20? Mine still shows 17/17/17/17/17
Me too. Hopefully it's a bug.
Hopefully.
same
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:09:00 -
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Same, I have the 17 all over issue
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed.
Random forum moments ftw |
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Deperem Mac
Amarr Amarr Space Purification
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Deperem Mac on 15/12/2010 16:11:15 Had two neural remaps shown as available before the patch today, as I was saving them for some really long skills. Now it says there is a remap available for use, but not how many. Have I lost one? PC version.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:09:00 -
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I'll repost my answer here as wellà Originally by: Jeddeita Also, I thought base attribs was 20/20/19/20/20? Mine still shows 17/17/17/17/17 as base in the attribs window. Could just be me being daft though
Those are your base attributes, per the blog. Chances are just that you misinterpreted what was said in the blog.
You get +12 unremappable points in every attribute, on top of the 5 unremappable you had before. That's the 17 you're seeing. New players also had the standard 14 remappable points distributed in the (now) age-old +3/+3/+3/+3/+2 pattern to give them 20/20/20/20/19.
It comes down to the confusion of what counts as "base points", really. 17 is "base points" in the sense of "the lowest an attribute can be"; 20 is "base points" in the sense of "attribute unmodified by other things (e.g. implants)" ù but that interpretation includes both unremappable and remappable attribute points. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
LordElfa
Gallente Revan's Fist
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: LordElfa on 15/12/2010 16:11:21 I got the Sansha Codebreaker but no Echelon. I don't understand, I was docked in station.
Is this because I was the 13th person on the server?
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:10:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 15/12/2010 16:13:18
PATCH FAILED VERIFICATION ON AUTODOWNLOADER.
Why does CCP never post the DIRECT LINK to the patch EXE on the thread?
AUTOPATCHER DOES NOT WORK, NEVER DOES.
Somebody post the EXE (patch not full install) link because CCP is too lazy to support customers.
CCP, post the direct link to the PATCH so I can download WITHOUT bittorrent and the AUTODOWNLOADER.
Lets see if CCP care enough about paying customers to post the Direct link to the patch.
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Synthony
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:10:00 -
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Getting CTDs on OSX thanks |
Petra Katell
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Petra Katell on 15/12/2010 16:11:56 Ahhh, bugged, yay.
1 of my chars used to have a remap available, now it's gone.
My other 2 have no remap available.
Nice work (ie: fail).
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:12:00 -
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I have update the OP but wanted to also add the information here:
We intended to give every character a free neural remap as part of the Incursion 1.0.1 release. We have been made aware that not every character has received a free remap and we will aim to fix this during downtime on Thursday, December 16. We thank you for your patience.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Eridal
The Minutemen Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:13:00 -
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1 account had remaps and other doesn't is this a bug?
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Kramnik
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: LordElfa Edited by: LordElfa on 15/12/2010 16:11:21 I got the Sansha Codebreaker but no Echelon. I don't understand, I was docked in station.
Is this because I was the 13th person on the server?
I got the Echelon but no the codebreaker...
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Amanda Reid
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:15:00 -
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got 3 alts with extra remaps but all my skilled characters have no extra. all the ones that have the extra remaps have never remaped.
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Modescond
Minmatar Twilight Military Industrial Complex Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:16:00 -
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Missing multiple codebreakers here as well.
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TripX007
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rae Todomi I'm having the Bulk Data problem that seems to plague patches for me. This time, it gets stuck at 21/46. Any zip files for the bulk data to dl? Thanks.
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Deeme Zeux
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:17:00 -
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What can I do?
I'm using windows 7 Downloaded new patch, nothing is working.. the message sais to many files in the Eve instalation.. you must reboot your computer. I did that 3 times, the same **** happens.. :(
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Xaja Diquil
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:18:00 -
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heh i get the free ship and codebreaker but no drop down to apply the sp wtf?
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Im Blue
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator I have update the OP but wanted to also add the information here:
We intended to give every character a free neural remap as part of the Incursion 1.0.1 release. We have been made aware that not every character has received a free remap and we will aim to fix this during downtime on Thursday, December 16. We thank you for your patience.
does this mean all of my guys will have 3(please say thats so cos omfg thats awesom )
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 15/12/2010 16:20:24
Is 213149 the latest version? Can somebody help? Because CCP sure is useless.
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch212622-213149_m.exe
Is this the latest? Somebody help, becuase CCP is unwilling to help!
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Hethor
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:19:00 -
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Confirming a base attribute of 17 across the board, unsure if this is intended or not.
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Clolo
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:19:00 -
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Prior to this update I was training at 2739 sp/hr and I didn't have max learning, after this update I'm training at 2700 sp/hr, what gives?
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:19:00 -
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!!! Free remap !!!
YESSSS!!!
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Saadeera
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lopsy Lu
Quote: Also, I thought base attribs was 20/20/19/20/20? Mine still shows 17/17/17/17/17
Me too. Hopefully it's a bug.
Hopefully.
Same here.
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Grez
Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 15/12/2010 16:23:05 Patch here http://content.eveonline.com/evepremiumpatch207554-213149_m.exe
Miilla, what you linked is the test server patch. ---
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Chruker
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Deeme Zeux What can I do?
I'm using windows 7 Downloaded new patch, nothing is working.. the message sais to many files in the Eve instalation.. you must reboot your computer. I did that 3 times, the same **** happens.. :(
Try running the repair.exe thats in the TQ directory ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi
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Ytamii Arval
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:23:00 -
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Similar for me: all 17 base, no new remaps. Increases in Total were nowhere near 12: +8 Intelligence, +8 Perception, +8 Charisma, +9 Willpower, +8 Memory.
On the other hand, some skills I made note of will train up significantly faster...maybe the underlying numbers are correct and this is just a UI bug?
The refunded SP amounts are correct.
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prayth
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:24:00 -
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Issue:
Was currently training a LVL 5 skill. Before DT it had 5 days ~3 hours till completion. Post patch it is showing as completed in game. I have not applied any unused SP.
Confirmed that the 'new level 5' skill is working as a LVL 5 ingame. (Research Project Management).
Also someone in local reports three lvl 5 skills being completed during DT.
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Jeddeita
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia I'll repost my answer here as wellà[snip]
Thanks for taking the time to reply with that explanation ---------- EVEStuff.net - High Quality Corp & Alliance Web Hosting |
Sanaki Iori
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator I have update the OP but wanted to also add the information here:
We intended to give every character a free neural remap as part of the Incursion 1.0.1 release. We have been made aware that not every character has received a free remap and we will aim to fix this during downtime on Thursday, December 16. We thank you for your patience.
Got it. So remap is not an issue.
However, is the 17 all over attributes a bug or not ? "It basically comes down to who started the battle with the biggest boots ! The only strategy involved is realizing when things have gone **** up and legging it." Attributed to [u]Ben "Yahtzee" |
Tama Rens
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator I have update the OP but wanted to also add the information here:
We intended to give every character a free neural remap as part of the Incursion 1.0.1 release. We have been made aware that not every character has received a free remap and we will aim to fix this during downtime on Thursday, December 16. We thank you for your patience.
As one of the folks who did not receive the remap (mine still says I have to wait nearly a year), is there anything you all need to know from us? I understand you plan to fix this tomorrow, but do you need information (system specs - anything really I can tell you) from the players whose accounts did not get the remap? Seriously, just trying to be helpful in this situation if I can be (or it would benefit you devs).
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Deeme Zeux
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:27:00 -
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GIVE ME A FIX FOR THIS PROBLEM.....
I'm using windows 7 Downloaded new patch, nothing is working.. the message sais to many files in the Eve instalation.. you must reboot your computer. I did that to times, the same **** happens.. :(
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Borg Stoneson
Caldari SWARTA Mostly Clueless
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:27:00 -
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Also I could very well be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I had a lot more than 500k or so SP in my learning skills.
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Khandu Eesi
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:29:00 -
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Received remaps and attribute upgrades. Redeemed gifts and all that was there was purloined codebreaker, no Echelon.. is this a known bug to be fixed next downtime as well?
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Saul Caris
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:29:00 -
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In the 'redeem items' screen upon login (and in-game), I was only given the option to redeem the Purloined Sansha Codebreaker (which I did). I was not given the option to redeem the Echelon ship! :(
I've petitioned the missing ship & redeem option. Hopefully there aren't too many others in the same boat? I did get my remap though!
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DTson Gauur
Caldari Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:31:00 -
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So far out of 4 accounts , have logged in 2 and:
1) Redeeming gave only the ship, no codebreakers 2) No free remaps shown
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Clolo
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:31:00 -
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CCP/Devs can you confirm something. When you go Character sheet > attributes > overview and you look at your base stats, are those supposed to be 17's across the board? I thought I read in the Dev Blog that they were going to be 20's with Charisma at 19. Which is correct?
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Khandu Eesi
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:35:00 -
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Five minutes after previous post my Echelon showed up.. logged out and back in and there was another gifts redemption icon with it in it.. yay!!
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Marcus Walkuris
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:36:00 -
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Downloaded the new patch. Using a mac, and it completely locks my computer up as soon as I use the client. Stuck in loading screen with manually turning off my computer as the only option.
Im not burning my hands on this until it is hot-fixed. Hope to hear something soon. Regards.
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Deeme Zeux
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:37:00 -
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I found the repairtool under CCP. Everything is working fine.. :)
I'm using windows 7 Downloaded new patch, nothing is working.. the message sais to many files in the Eve instalation.. you must reboot your computer. I did that to times, the same **** happens.. :(
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hakkiew365
Muffin Munchers Muffy Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:39:00 -
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No codebreaker :( looked everywhere, assembled the echelon, still nothing. happened on both accounts
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Sinwalker
Caldari The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:43:00 -
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When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.
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DTson Gauur
Caldari Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:44:00 -
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ok... 4 Accounts now:
1st account: as stated earlier, no codebreaker or remap , station: NON STARTER 2nd account: as stated earlier, no codebreaker or remap , station: NON STARTER 3rd account: no codebreaker or remap , station: NON STARTER 4th account: Codebreaker AND Remap , station: STARTER SYSTEM (Sakenta in this case)
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Zhou Wuwang
Federal Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:49:00 -
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The Echelon model/textures look undone at low quality. Much less quality than other ships at the same graphics level. It's no big deal really, but just noting it.
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Holden Thunk
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Clolo CCP/Devs can you confirm something. When you go Character sheet > attributes > overview and you look at your base stats, are those supposed to be 17's across the board? I thought I read in the Dev Blog that they were going to be 20's with Charisma at 19. Which is correct?
The base skills are 17 - old base 5 plus additional base 12. The 20/20/20/20/19 is the new default, including the 14 remappable points.
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Yoshiro Zane
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:52:00 -
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No remap, no codebreaker... Just Echelon on 2 accounts...
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AK Wilson
Material School
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:54:00 -
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The 17/17/17 etc bug appears to be a display bug.
I had that but when I went into the remap screen (of which I didn't get one) it showed the correct attributes. When I closed the remap screen (having done nothing) the attributes were then displayed correctly.
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Whitebrain
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:55:00 -
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This may be an unavoidable part of the patch, but it caused all of the saved fittings to disappear from the "Fitting" window where one Browses, Saves, or Strips ship fittings.
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eden roc
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:56:00 -
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Anyone get in with a Mac? - Splashscreen. login. Patch downloads then the app goes to restart and.....crash down goes mac.... black screen. Have gone back and reloaded the update 2x same results.....
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Modvattor
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Modvattor on 15/12/2010 17:04:47
Originally by: eden roc Anyone get in with a Mac? - Splashscreen. login. Patch downloads then the app goes to restart and.....crash down goes mac.... black screen. Have gone back and reloaded the update 2x same results.....
Got the Mac client running but with a few problems:
UI: Overview is stuck, and no matter what settings I use, nothing displays on it, just looks minimised in the top right hand corner of the screen. Same for Drone overview.
Client: Changing the graphics settings has no effect even after a client restart. Tried 2xAA and random other settings (Graphical), no change on restart.
Client: Random slow downs and ultimate hangs. Although I suspect this is the mass Jita (Post Patch Lag)
Game: Got the Ship / Codebreaker / Remap no problems.
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Kelby
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kelby on 15/12/2010 17:03:55 Just got my codebreaker after a relog, thanks for the quick fix CCP.
A relog should help those missing Echelon too.
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Ki Ann
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:03:00 -
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Missing skillpoints, should have had 1,9 roughly, but only 839.000 are left to allocate. Anyone else has this issue?
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Zen Jardo
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:04:00 -
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I had to redeem twice to get the codebreaker and echelon. For those that didn't get both in the first pass you might want to click the redeem button again.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Saadeera
Originally by: Lopsy Lu
Quote: Also, I thought base attribs was 20/20/19/20/20? Mine still shows 17/17/17/17/17
Me too. Hopefully it's a bug.
Same here.
Originally by: Hethor Confirming a base attribute of 17 across the board, unsure if this is intended or not.
Originally by: Ytamii Arval Similar for me: all 17 base, no new remaps. Increases in Total were nowhere near 12:
Intended. Not a bug. Check your remap screens.
Your base attributes are 17. You should have 14 remappabe points. The 20/20/20/20/19 attributes you seem to be expecting are only for new players who get the standard +3/+3/+3/+3/+2 remap. You should instead have your old remaps giving youà whatever they're supposed to give you.
Quote: just checked my low level alt, who still had the noob bonus, and his training times are much longer now. Example: 2 days longer for Caldari Frigate lvl 4. So this isn't just a UI problem...the attribute increases really did come up way short.
Entirely expected. This change most likely did not double his attributes like the old training speed bonus essentially did. With that bonus, he probably trained at 3-4000 SP/h; without it, he "only" gets the 2500û2700 SP/h of normal-speed training. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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Ki Ann
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:05:00 -
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ehh, 1,9 mill ofc
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smashnecros
Wormhole Warriors
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sinwalker When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.
+1 yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!
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Rumple Fourskin
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:13:00 -
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All base attributes now read 17 instead of 20/20/20/20/19 (per the FAQ on skill change) on 2 accounts. This is a loss of about 200 sp a hour? I filed a petition.
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Athoba
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:14:00 -
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I have got the same mac problem: after installing update launching eve blocks the mac completely. I tried downloading the client again but this doesn't work either.
Anyone any ideas on how to solve this?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.
+1 yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!
Nothing new. If you want to remap, you have to put your attributes within the minimum and maximum values: no less than 17 and no more than 27. You haven't lost or gained any points ù you just have too low base attributes and have to put two points into that lower-than-allowed attribute before you can proceed.
Originally by: Rumple Fourskin All base attributes now read 17 instead of 20/20/20/20/19 (per the FAQ on skill change) on 2 accounts. This is a loss of about 200 sp a hour? I filed a petition.
Read the FAQ again ù it's supposed to be 17 across the board (20 etc is after remaps and only applies to new plauers), so you can go ahead and delete that petition. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Jenna Frey
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:18:00 -
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*Some players were unable to get the Echelon. Please exit the game and log back in the ship will then be offered to you.
My issue was the purloined codebreaker was not offered. Re-logging worked. The item was offered on second attempt to redeem. |
Ytamii Arval
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: AK Wilson The 17/17/17 etc bug appears to be a display bug.
I had that but when I went into the remap screen (of which I didn't get one) it showed the correct attributes. When I closed the remap screen (having done nothing) the attributes were then displayed correctly.
Okay, this worked for me on my low level alt who actually has remaps available. It didn't work for the high level ones who still have no remaps.
And, as I said earlier, the loss of the training bonus has added about 30% to level 5 training times. Is this intended? I thought the whole point of this was to speed up training for low level characters, but only my high level characters have reduced times.
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haggarddecoy
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:21:00 -
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Got my remap, ship, and codebreaker but no SP. Im sure I went from 11 mill to 9 mill and didn't get reimbursed.
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Tarikan
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rae Todomi I'm having the Bulk Data problem that seems to plague patches for me. This time, it gets stuck at 21/46. Any zip files for the bulk data to dl? Thanks.
i have been having the same issues, have you been able to fix it in any way?
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Cirquedu freak
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:29:00 -
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Hi i have a massive problem with the update, the training skill removal did not work at all, i can only train skills like normal, there is no way to add skill points. can someone help?
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Edward Olmops
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:30:00 -
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Question: I got a free remap. Is that an "extra" remap or did this just finish the cooldown? Until yesterday my next remap was scheduled for January - will I then get a second one or will I only ever get another one 1 year after I used this one?
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WolfLeader316
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.
+1 yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!
My achura char (this char, WolfLeader316) also has -2 attribute points available for remap. Please fix.
Everything else in the patch is fine for all my chars, good patch.
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ERHLANG
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.
+1 yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!
Nothing new. If you want to remap, you have to put your attributes within the minimum and maximum values: no less than 17 and no more than 27. You haven't lost or gained any points ù you just have too low base attributes and have to put two points into that lower-than-allowed attribute before you can proceed.
Originally by: Rumple Fourskin All base attributes now read 17 instead of 20/20/20/20/19 (per the FAQ on skill change) on 2 accounts. This is a loss of about 200 sp a hour? I filed a petition.
Read the FAQ again ù it's supposed to be 17 across the board (20 etc is after remaps and only applies to new plauers), so you can go ahead and delete that petition.
Can somebody please explain A LOT more clearly how the "change" in attribute distribution is supposed to help existing "non-new" players? Before the patch was deployed my attributes were as follows: Intelligence: 25 Perception: 17 Charisma: 17 Willpower: 17 Memory: 23
After the patch, nothing has changed! And I do not have an additional remap available (yes, known issue. just stating it has affected me as well).
Again, my question is, how is the "new" attribute distribution supposed to help?
So far I don't see any comparable benefit for having all learning skills trained to Lvl 5. It seems like all CCP has done is reimbursed the skill points? Please explain this clearly, and please oh please don't re-quote your original post. I get it. Explain the comparable benefit introduced as a result of losing our Learning skills (aside from simply being reimbursed the SP's).
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Vespoi Filar
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:39:00 -
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Previous to the 1.0.1 release I had a remap already available and unused.
Does the Free Remap in 1.0.1 mean I now have 2? Or just the one that I hadn't used yet?
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:40:00 -
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Bugsd introduced with Failranis and still not fixed:
- Combat log kills/losses is still not sorted on date - Combat log kills/losses is still full of duplicate entries
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: WolfLeader316 My achura char (this char, WolfLeader316) also has -2 attribute points available for remap. Please fix.
If you've never remapped before and have the classic Achura 3pt Charisma (which is now 15), this is entirely as it should be. Just add in the two missing points to bring it up to the minimum attribute value of 17. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Petra Katell
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Petra Katell on 15/12/2010 17:42:42
Originally by: WolfLeader316
Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.
+1 yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!
My achura char (this char, WolfLeader316) also has -2 attribute points available for remap. Please fix.
As Tippia pointed out above, there's nothing to be fixed. Your Charisma is below the allowable base. If you want to remap, you need to put 2 points into Charisma.
edit: nvm
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rasz Lin on 15/12/2010 17:44:49
Originally by: ERHLANG
After the patch, nothing has changed! And I do not have an additional remap available (yes, known issue. just stating it has affected me as well).
UI display bug, same with API, API returns pre patch numbers UNTIL you click "REMAP" and then cancel, After you enter remap screen and cancel game refreshes the numbers and API returns real new values (EVEMon was showing prepatch numbers before I did the REMAP/cancel combo)
Its interesting that API still returns Basic Learning skills as Injected but not learned, at least thats what EVEMon shows :)
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: ERHLANG Can somebody please explain A LOT more clearly how the "change" in attribute distribution is supposed to help existing "non-new" players?
It's not. It's supposed to be as close to the previous state of being as possible.
Quote: After the patch, nothing has changed!
This means it has worked. You had 99 attribute points before (assuming those numbers didn't include any implants); the new system means that everyone has 99 attribute points (without implants), no exceptions.
Quote: So far I don't see any comparable benefit for having all learning skills trained to Lvl 5. It seems like all CCP has done is reimbursed the skill points?
That is the intention. It's supposed to be just like before, except without any learning skills. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Sinwalker
Caldari The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Petra Katell Edited by: Petra Katell on 15/12/2010 17:42:42
Originally by: WolfLeader316
Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.
+1 yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!
My achura char (this char, WolfLeader316) also has -2 attribute points available for remap. Please fix.
As Tippia pointed out above, there's nothing to be fixed. Your Charisma is below the allowable base. If you want to remap, you need to put 2 points into Charisma.
edit: nvm
I'm not sure what you're saying It won't let me put those points anywhere. After I take them from willpower or memory or whatever they are gone.
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Jeff Nelson
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ytamii Arval Edited to add: just checked my low level alt, who still had the noob bonus, and his training times are much longer now. Example: 2 days longer for Caldari Frigate lvl 5 (increased from 7+ days to 9+ days). So this isn't just a UI problem...
the attribute increases really did come up way short.
There are some really useful graphs showing how this will soon end up working in your favor http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824
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Arturo Theese
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:52:00 -
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tl;dr: I'm down about 165k sp on a level V I was training.
I've been training Gallente Industrial V since 17:36 (UTC) on Dec 2.
New account, new char, using +3 implants and +3 from the cerebral accelerator, no remap, no learning skills - 14/14/14/14/13.
From Dec 2 until the patch, I was accumulating sp at the rate of 60,480 per day (14 + 7 per minute * 60 minutes * 24 hours * 2 for the 100% bonus).
Starting at 181,020 (from IV) and adding 725,760 from Dec 3 - Dec 14 yields 906,780. Add in around 59k for today, for an approximate total of 965,780.
I'm currently at 801,585. I'm down at least 165k points.
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DefGab C
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:52:00 -
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Anybody experiencing missing implants? I got 2 alts with missing +5 implants. All of the implants gone...vamoosh
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MssBagger
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:53:00 -
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---| INFO TO CCP |---
It isent possible to sell Bluprint copies of ships on the market..
the text ** Please repack the item bla. bla. bla.** is comming up..
hard to repack a blueprint hehe
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.12.15 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: prayth Issue:
Was currently training a LVL 5 skill. Before DT it had 5 days ~3 hours till completion. Post patch it is showing as completed in game. I have not applied any unused SP.
Confirmed that the 'new level 5' skill is working as a LVL 5 ingame. (Research Project Management).
Also someone in local reports three lvl 5 skills being completed during DT.
That's a major issue. CCP, please remove this guy's free SP, and make him train it up as normal.
Thanks.
Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
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Kelby
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kelby on 15/12/2010 18:01:11
Originally by: MssBagger ---| INFO TO CCP |---
It isent possible to sell Bluprint copies of ships on the market..
the text ** Please repack the item bla. bla. bla.** is comming up..
hard to repack a blueprint hehe
Never done production but i'm pretty sure you can't sell BPC's on the market, Contracts/Trade only.
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Jeff Nelson
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Arturo Theese ... I'm currently at 801,585. I'm down at least 165k points.
WAD. Closed/Invalid. See graphs in post directly above yours.
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Arturo Theese
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jeff Nelson
Originally by: Arturo Theese ... I'm currently at 801,585. I'm down at least 165k points.
WAD. Closed/Invalid. See graphs in post directly above yours.
Um, no. I went to bed last night with around 950,000 points in this skill. I now have around 800k. I'm not saying it takes longer, I'm saying points are missing.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 15/12/2010 18:15:58 Did you guys bugger up contracts? Sitting in an empty WH system and I can't open up certain public contracts (shuffles through the pile, bar fills, and then nothing.) Tried logging, another account, etc. same result. Was able to open the contract on an empire toon.
Edit: NVM, after a couple of minutes it opened. I guess you're just running WH systems on some of that burned-out hardware or something.
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Reverand Alleycat
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:21:00 -
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I downloaded and installed the update for Mac and when Eve relaunched all I got was a black screen, no log in or even images. Couldn't force quit out of it, had to restart computer with the power button. Every time I tried to launch Eve I got the same black screen. I dumped it all in the trash and now I'm downloading a new client, painfully slow download so we'll see in two more hours if I can get a log in screen at least.
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Grotrian
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:23:00 -
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As several other MAC users mentioned above, I downloaded the patch but can no longer access the game. Opening the client just give me a black screen that requires a hard computer restart to get out of.
Solutions?
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trjcquee
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Deeme Zeux GIVE ME A FIX FOR THIS PROBLEM.....
I'm using windows 7
Install XP. Problem solved. |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Grotrian As several other MAC users mentioned above, I downloaded the patch but can no longer access the game. Opening the client just give me a black screen that requires a hard computer restart to get out of.
Solutions?
We have alerted our Mac Developers about this problem. In the meantime some players have already developed a workaround which you can read about here.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: DefGab C Anybody experiencing missing implants? I got 2 alts with missing +5 implants. All of the implants gone...vamoosh
You would need to submit a petition and let the Game Masters investigate this for you.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Khi3l
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: Khi3l on 15/12/2010 18:31:55 I can confirm than now, my base attributes are all 17 ... What about 20/20/19/20/20 as in the DevBlog ? 14 attributes points not given with the patch ...
EDIT : my other account, who got the free remap, has his base attributes as on the DevBlog. CCP, will you give us more skillpoints to cover the skilling time we lost with this bug ?
PS : sorry for my bad english ...
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vespoi Filar Previous to the 1.0.1 release I had a remap already available and unused.
Does the Free Remap in 1.0.1 mean I now have 2? Or just the one that I hadn't used yet?
Yes. If you had no remaps available we have given you a free remap so you now have one. If you had one available you will now have two.
Please check the original post in this thread as there have been some issues with the free neural remap which will be fixed during downtime tomorrow.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Ovella
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: AkJon Ferguson Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 15/12/2010 18:15:58 Did you guys bugger up contracts? Sitting in an empty WH system and I can't open up certain public contracts (shuffles through the pile, bar fills, and then nothing.) Tried logging, another account, etc. same result. Was able to open the contract on an empire toon.
Edit: NVM, after a couple of minutes it opened. I guess you're just running WH systems on some of that burned-out hardware or something.
it's not WHs, it's Jita, I think - takes foever to set up contracts (even remotely). |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Khi3l I can confirm than now, my base attributes are all 17 ... What about 20/20/19/20/20 as in the DevBlog ? 14 attributes points not given with the patch ...
Your attributes total will be 99 attributes which have a base of 17/17/17/17/17. You will have a free neural remap available which allows you to remap 14 points as you see fit so you can have 20/20/20/20/19.
Please note you can assign attributes as you see fit up to a maximum of 27 in one attribute. Implants will, of course, stack on top of this.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Khi3l
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Khi3l on 15/12/2010 18:34:12 EDIT : nevermind
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:34:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Rasz Lin on 15/12/2010 18:36:40 as always this Patch includes feauteres that are not mentioned in the patch notes.
You added new "Location" entry when Right clicking orders in My Wallet/Orders.
1 its useless 2 That just cost me 500K in broker fees (thankfully I started from the bottom of the list with small ones) as I clicked second entry from the bottom to "view market details"
Edit: How about adding something useful that users actually asked for like CONFIRMATION WINDOW when one clicks "cancel order"?
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Khi3l
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:36:00 -
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So ... It's ok for the explanation but ... CCP, will you give us more skillpoints to cover the skilling time we lost with this bug ?
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Rasz Lin on 15/12/2010 18:50:24 well now, this is interesting
There is a sell order for Mexallon in Shihuken at 150K units. I click on it, enter 1 unit, click BUY ... and NOTHING happens. I do it again, enter 99999999 and get "you entered too much" EEEEE sound, but still nothing happens. I got plenty isk, market window updates automatically after every attempt, but the order stays the same. Its stuck
Dear CCP, you broke the market. :*)
Edit after 5 minutes: LOL http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/206/nomatch.jpg First time I experience 5 minute lag. Those windows all popped up 1-2 seconds apart from each other after 5 minutes.
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Clolo
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:47:00 -
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Navigator, can you please explain why the max skill training speed is now 2700? As someone else pointed out, previously the max I believe was 2772. If you consider the 72 sp/hr lost it equals 12096 sp lost per week which doesn't seem like alot, but if you look at it over the coarse of a year, that's 628,992 SP lost in training per year. Does CCP intend to make up this lost time/sp at all?
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Nantodos
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:49:00 -
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All Corp Skill Books still in Hanger and not been recompensed.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Clolo Navigator, can you please explain why the max skill training speed is now 2700? As someone else pointed out, previously the max I believe was 2772. If you consider the 72 sp/hr lost it equals 12096 sp lost per week which doesn't seem like alot, but if you look at it over the coarse of a year, that's 628,992 SP lost in training per year. Does CCP intend to make up this lost time/sp at all?
I vote to give this guy 72SP/h back, and take away free 5mil SP that he just got.
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Clolo
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin
Originally by: Clolo Navigator, can you please explain why the max skill training speed is now 2700? As someone else pointed out, previously the max I believe was 2772. If you consider the 72 sp/hr lost it equals 12096 sp lost per week which doesn't seem like alot, but if you look at it over the coarse of a year, that's 628,992 SP lost in training per year. Does CCP intend to make up this lost time/sp at all?
I vote to give this guy 72SP/h back, and take away free 5mil SP that he just got.
So your solution to me asking a question about a nerf is to remove the "free 5mil SP" which I spent time training? Awesome move buddy.
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Xozex
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin
Originally by: Clolo Navigator, can you please explain why the max skill training speed is now 2700? As someone else pointed out, previously the max I believe was 2772. If you consider the 72 sp/hr lost it equals 12096 sp lost per week which doesn't seem like alot, but if you look at it over the coarse of a year, that's 628,992 SP lost in training per year. Does CCP intend to make up this lost time/sp at all?
I vote to give this guy 72SP/h back, and take away free 5mil SP that he just got.
Free SP? Who the hell said it's free? I spent weeks training for my 5m SP from learning. Lost SP is lost SP, and needs to reimbursed.
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HyperZerg
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator Yes. If you had no remaps available we have given you a free remap so you now have one. If you had one available you will now have two.
Please check the original post in this thread as there have been some issues with the free neural remap which will be fixed during downtime tomorrow.
If I would have my remap later this month. I'll get only a 0,05 free remap ? Your kidding right ?
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JaveMONSTER
Amarr Messier 57
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: JaveMONSTER on 15/12/2010 19:12:02 Didn't get remap, my other characters did. Otherwise, everything alright. Keep it up CCP!
Oh, 17/17/17/17/17 here on every character and no extra points to map.
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Swidgen
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Clolo So your solution to me asking a question about a nerf is to remove the "free 5mil SP" which I spent time training? Awesome move buddy.
Listen, this stuff was discussed ad infinitum here over the last month, including the reduction of 72 SP/hr. If you couldn't be arsed to find out about it beforehand, don't be surprised if you get flamed for being a little late to the party.
If you had 5/5 learning skills then you were just reimbursed over 5 million SP. Here's a little brain teaser for you: How long would it take to acquire 5 million SP at 72 per hour?
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Ky Vatta
Majority 12
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:16:00 -
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There is some problem with remapping, it doesn`t matter which skill I remove it from, but the first chosen skill point vanishes (therefore I`m not touching remaps until there is an explantion or fix)
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JaveMONSTER
Amarr Messier 57
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: JaveMONSTER Edited by: JaveMONSTER on 15/12/2010 19:12:02 Didn't get remap, my other characters did. Otherwise, everything alright. Keep it up CCP!
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Varve
Caldari Oredustries
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:19:00 -
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Didn't get my free re-map :(
Attributes are correct though
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Miss Pristine
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Vespoi Filar Previous to the 1.0.1 release I had a remap already available and unused.
Does the Free Remap in 1.0.1 mean I now have 2? Or just the one that I hadn't used yet?
Yes. If you had no remaps available we have given you a free remap so you now have one. If you had one available you will now have two.
Please check the original post in this thread as there have been some issues with the free neural remap which will be fixed during downtime tomorrow.
So what if we have one coming in a couple weeks? Will the free one negate that???????????
I hope not
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Eija Riitta
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Swidgen
If you had 5/5 learning skills then you were just reimbursed over 5 million SP. Here's a little brain teaser for you: How long would it take to acquire 5 million SP at 72 per hour?
Let me break it down to your level: The SP people got was not free, it was acquired over apropriate amount of time spent on learning skills. So the decrease of 72sp/hr is in no way remedied by the "free" SP, it's an actual increase in learning time that translates to over 600.000 SP in a year. So here's a little brain teaser for you: think before you flame, of you'll just make an ass of yourself.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Vespoi Filar Previous to the 1.0.1 release I had a remap already available and unused.
Does the Free Remap in 1.0.1 mean I now have 2? Or just the one that I hadn't used yet?
Yes. If you had no remaps available we have given you a free remap so you now have one. If you had one available you will now have two.
Please check the original post in this thread as there have been some issues with the free neural remap which will be fixed during downtime tomorrow.
Okay, got my 1x free remap. Cool.
Question is, though, as I won't be needing one for a very long time (well over a year; maybe two), what happens next year if I don't reclaim my extra one this year? Will I always have 1x extra, in perpetuity, until I use it up? Or will it expire come next year? --
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Arwir
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:26:00 -
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I HAVE NEW PROBLEM i know that after update my stats went up two times as they were so why my training time is still the same ? i trier everything from deleting skills from quede to reloging but nothing worked so i'm a little confiused and i don't know what to do.
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I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Vespoi Filar Previous to the 1.0.1 release I had a remap already available and unused.
Does the Free Remap in 1.0.1 mean I now have 2? Or just the one that I hadn't used yet?
Yes. If you had no remaps available we have given you a free remap so you now have one. If you had one available you will now have two.
Please check the original post in this thread as there have been some issues with the free neural remap which will be fixed during downtime tomorrow.
Okay, got my 1x free remap. Cool.
Question is, though, as I won't be needing one for a very long time (well over a year; maybe two), what happens next year if I don't reclaim my extra one this year? Will I always have 1x extra, in perpetuity, until I use it up? Or will it expire come next year?
When you use up last available remap 1 year coundown starts. If you still have "x" remaps available - you will (most likely) always have "x". "X" will nither increase nor decrease in number (unless CCP will give/take away more remaps in future).
Kinda same as jumpclones: if you didn't use it for a year you won't be able to use it 365(6) times in a single day later |
Clolo
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Swidgen
Originally by: Clolo So your solution to me asking a question about a nerf is to remove the "free 5mil SP" which I spent time training? Awesome move buddy.
Listen, this stuff was discussed ad infinitum here over the last month, including the reduction of 72 SP/hr. If you couldn't be arsed to find out about it beforehand, don't be surprised if you get flamed for being a little late to the party.
If you had 5/5 learning skills then you were just reimbursed over 5 million SP. Here's a little brain teaser for you: How long would it take to acquire 5 million SP at 72 per hour?
Again, it's not free 5m SP. I spent time training to get the SP to redistribute. Overall I think the idea to remove learning skills is up there with adding a skill queue in the first place. My problem is CCP setting this level of max sp/hr below what was previously achievable. If for instance CCP just added 1 base attribute around (making it all 18s instead of 17s) then I think this would resolve the issue (I would have to do the math). For the players who didn't train all learning skills this would be beneficial since they are training faster then before and for those who did train max learning, it would possibly keep them training at the same speed as before.
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xiphia
Caldari Shasarazade Security and Defence Services
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:32:00 -
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Why can't I login? I keep getting the bulk data error at 21/46 :( _____________________________________
Stop moaning, start playing! |
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Marcus Afar
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:35:00 -
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Regarding the Mac Issue, where will we be informed about the fixes? We cant get it off of the client login screen notifications. Just checking cause Im not familiar with where to look.
And as the previous poster asked, I think I have 3 a little under 4 days of training programmed but Id be awfully disappointed IF I lost training time. Will this be reimbursed?
Thank you for the rapid response about the Mac issues.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Eija Riitta
Let me break it down to your level: The SP people got was not free, it was acquired over apropriate amount of time spent on learning skills. So the decrease of 72sp/hr is in no way remedied by the "free" SP, it's an actual increase in learning time that translates to over 600.000 SP in a year. So here's a little brain teaser for you: think before you flame, of you'll just make an ass of yourself.
/troll Are you that stupid, or just American? Cant count? Need unit translation to Imperial? That will be 8 and a half Libraries of Congress before learning speed decreases for you. /troll
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Eija Riitta
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin
/troll Are you that stupid, or just American? Cant count? Need unit translation to Imperial? That will be 8 and a half Libraries of Congress before learning speed decreases for you. /troll
Care to elaborate? How does decreasing max learning speed not decrease max learning speed?
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Tarikan
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:43:00 -
[124]
Originally by: xiphia Why can't I login? I keep getting the bulk data error at 21/46 :(
still getting this as well, i tried reinstalling the eve client wiping all saved files, resetting cache and settings and still i am not able to get past this.
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Mibad
Sickle Moon
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:44:00 -
[125]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Khi3l I can confirm than now, my base attributes are all 17 ... What about 20/20/19/20/20 as in the DevBlog ? 14 attributes points not given with the patch ...
Your attributes total will be 99 attributes which have a base of 17/17/17/17/17. You will have a free neural remap available which allows you to remap 14 points as you see fit so you can have 20/20/20/20/19.
Please note you can assign attributes as you see fit up to a maximum of 27 in one attribute. Implants will, of course, stack on top of this.
All my base is 17, So to get my 20/20/20/20/19 base I have to use the remap? Wont this reset my next remap to 1 year from now effectively screwing me out of my remap available in a few months?
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xiphia
Caldari Shasarazade Security and Defence Services
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:49:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Tarikan
Originally by: xiphia Why can't I login? I keep getting the bulk data error at 21/46 :(
still getting this as well, i tried reinstalling the eve client wiping all saved files, resetting cache and settings and still i am not able to get past this.
This is really annoying! I have never had this problem before. I need to set a skill training _____________________________________
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Fianna Illyasfeld
Autistic Sharks Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:52:00 -
[127]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Vespoi Filar Previous to the 1.0.1 release I had a remap already available and unused.
Does the Free Remap in 1.0.1 mean I now have 2? Or just the one that I hadn't used yet?
Yes. If you had no remaps available we have given you a free remap so you now have one. If you had one available you will now have two.
Please check the original post in this thread as there have been some issues with the free neural remap which will be fixed during downtime tomorrow.
I had one coming up on the 30th december.
Will the free remap affect this timer?
Please tell me that it wont.
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Glyken Touchon
Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:52:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Eija Riitta
The SP people got was not free, it was acquired over apropriate amount of time spent on learning skills. So the decrease of 72sp/hr is in no way remedied by the "free" SP, it's an actual increase in learning time that translates to over 600.000 SP in a year. So here's a little brain teaser for you: think before you flame, of you'll just make an ass of yourself.
Before:- max learning speed 2772.
- useful skills
- 5mil SP of useless skills
After:- max learning speed 2700
- useful skills
- 5 million SP to reallocate from useless to useful skills.
So yes, there is a slight reduction in the maximum training speed, which is compensated for by not having to lock SP into skills which don't do anything to gameplay.
A 20 million SP character used to have 15million of useful skills, and a max speed of 2772. a 20 million SP character now has 20 million in useful skills.
See the benefit yet?
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DefGab C
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Posted - 2010.12.15 19:57:00 -
[129]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: DefGab C Anybody experiencing missing implants? I got 2 alts with missing +5 implants. All of the implants gone...vamoosh
You would need to submit a petition and let the Game Masters investigate this for you.
Forget about this post.. I just remembered something happen to those 2 alts, Thanks for the reply CCP Navigator
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Eija Riitta
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:02:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Glyken Touchon
Before:- max learning speed 2772.
- useful skills
- 5mil SP of useless skills
After:- max learning speed 2700
- useful skills
- 5 million SP to reallocate from useless to useful skills.
So yes, there is a slight reduction in the maximum training speed, which is compensated for by not having to lock SP into skills which don't do anything to gameplay.
A 20 million SP character used to have 15million of useful skills, and a max speed of 2772. a 20 million SP character now has 20 million in useful skills.
See the benefit yet?
Seems to be only a short-term gain, in 7.2 years it will cancel out ;) Okay, I get the point. Thanks for explaining without being an *******.
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Riedle
Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:05:00 -
[131]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Vespoi Filar Previous to the 1.0.1 release I had a remap already available and unused.
Does the Free Remap in 1.0.1 mean I now have 2? Or just the one that I hadn't used yet?
Yes. If you had no remaps available we have given you a free remap so you now have one. If you had one available you will now have two.
Please check the original post in this thread as there have been some issues with the free neural remap which will be fixed during downtime tomorrow.
Further to this. If I use this remap and I am currently scheduled to get my next remap in May - will I then have to wait until next December to use my next remap (reset the timer) or will I be able to remap again in May as per usual?
If it does reset the remap timer I will wait until May to remap then still have another remap available (assuming that they will still stack and the timer hasn't been reset already).
Just wondering because if it does just reset it then this 'free remap' is not near as beneficial to those with no remaps available right now compared to those that do.
Thanks and great patch!
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Fitzwitt
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:06:00 -
[132]
Not sure I understand what was supposed to happen, but before the patch I had 8 days left on training Gallente industrial V, now it has increased to over 10 days, when I check my attributes I have more points than before (perception 27, willpower 21), so why is that it takes longer to train now?
Did they change the amount of SP gained per hour? I read the Dev blog (http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824) and no-where it states a change in the sp per hour...if that in fact is the case it just really sucks...confused now..
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mustangsally31
Amarr Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:06:00 -
[133]
So I put my SP where I wanted,in game it shows my full sp as it should be, but in Evemon and other apps it shows me with the SP not redistribiuted, is it an API problem, it only happened on this account, all my other accounts updated just fine using those apps.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:10:00 -
[134]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Khi3l I can confirm than now, my base attributes are all 17 ... What about 20/20/19/20/20 as in the DevBlog ? 14 attributes points not given with the patch ...
Your attributes total will be 99 attributes which have a base of 17/17/17/17/17. You will have a free neural remap available which allows you to remap 14 points as you see fit so you can have 20/20/20/20/19.
Please note you can assign attributes as you see fit up to a maximum of 27 in one attribute. Implants will, of course, stack on top of this.
Uhm.. ok. Why not just implement the 20s/19 from the start instead of requiring players to do it for you guys? That really doesn't make any sense. It makes the whole notion of a free remap kind of a pointless gesture. Infact it only complicates matters for some people, including myself.
You folks really need to speak up and explain what is going to happen reguarding remap timers. If we use this 'free' one, does the timer reset? Do we have to wait however many days/months for our natural remap before using this 'free' one, so as not to upset the original timer? If that's the case.. why am I and others screwed out of either 14 attributes til then, or our original remap plan?
I find this to be quite a big hole in all of this, people.. like myself, are a bit anal when it comes to training at our best 24/7 under personal constructed plans. Some clarity on the matter would be most welcome. Thank you.
---------------------------------------- -Treat the EVE Market like you're a pimp and it is your 'employee'.. freely fondle it as you wish and make it pay you for it- |
Richecko
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:11:00 -
[135]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Originally by: Grotrian As several other MAC users mentioned above, I downloaded the patch but can no longer access the game. Opening the client just give me a black screen that requires a hard computer restart to get out of.
Solutions?
We have alerted our Mac Developers about this problem. In the meantime some players have already developed a workaround which you can read about here.
I would just note that I've had the same black screen problem. The thread referenced had two workarounds neither of which worked for me. Since I have no idea whether the user-supplied recommendations have left my system in a state a future CCP mac dev team fix would resolve, I'm now trying a fresh install - but it's a 2hr wait for a fresh download of the installer. Noone has replied yet whether the fresh install works on Mac.
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Khaemwese
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:12:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Khaemwese on 15/12/2010 20:14:39
Originally by: Fitzwitt Not sure I understand what was supposed to happen, but before the patch I had 8 days left on training Gallente industrial V, now it has increased to over 10 days, when I check my attributes I have more points than before (perception 27, willpower 21), so why is that it takes longer to train now?
Did they change the amount of SP gained per hour? I read the Dev blog (http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824) and no-where it states a change in the sp per hour...if that in fact is the case it just really sucks...confused now..
Previous max SP/h was 2772, it's now 2700.
Originally by: mustangsally31 So I put my SP where I wanted,in game it shows my full sp as it should be, but in Evemon and other apps it shows me with the SP not redistribiuted, is it an API problem, it only happened on this account, all my other accounts updated just fine using those apps.
Try increasing the timeout on EveMon to a full minute. I have 5 toons, after I did that one finally refreshed, still waiting on the other 4 though
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Aelana Anais
Gallente Spectral Forces The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:18:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Aelana Anais on 15/12/2010 20:18:22 There appears to be an API glitch going on with skills you added and skilled up using learning skills SP.
In game and on my character sheet at www.eveonline.com/character/skilltree.asp?characterID=xxxxxxxx it shows Medium Blaster Spec at 3 (a skill I injected after filling the prereqs using learning skill SP and then used learning skill SP to get to level 3.
In the API and on the XML linked from that page it shows row typeID="12211" skillpoints="0" level="0" (which is Medium Blaster Specialization).
I did this right after the system was up so several hours ago.
This is of course messing with EVEMON and EveHQ and EFT.
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Fitzwitt
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:22:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Khaemwese Edited by: Khaemwese on 15/12/2010 20:14:39
Originally by: Fitzwitt Not sure I understand what was supposed to happen, but before the patch I had 8 days left on training Gallente industrial V, now it has increased to over 10 days, when I check my attributes I have more points than before (perception 27, willpower 21), so why is that it takes longer to train now?
Did they change the amount of SP gained per hour? I read the Dev blog (http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824) and no-where it states a change in the sp per hour...if that in fact is the case it just really sucks...confused now..
thank you! now it makes sense...dang 2 extra days for a 72 sp/hr change..ouch Previous max SP/h was 2772, it's now 2700.
Originally by: mustangsally31 So I put my SP where I wanted,in game it shows my full sp as it should be, but in Evemon and other apps it shows me with the SP not redistribiuted, is it an API problem, it only happened on this account, all my other accounts updated just fine using those apps.
Try increasing the timeout on EveMon to a full minute. I have 5 toons, after I did that one finally refreshed, still waiting on the other 4 though
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:25:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Khaemwese Previous max SP/h was 2772, it's now 2700.
Max you could have in a single attribute was (15 base + 10 skill + 5 implant) * 1.1
Now the max is (17 base + 0 skills + 5 implant) * 1.0
The new max is 27 base + 5 implant. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Marcus Afar
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:26:00 -
[140]
Richeko the fact it is a known MAC issue and it is being worked on directly indicates it is not fixed by reinstalling the client. Also someone posted that they did reinstall without any help.
Your going to have to sit it out with the rest of us MAC users. We just have to wait for some sort of message and you should probably not expect anything till after downtime or just before tomorrow.
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Khaemwese
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:31:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Khaemwese Previous max SP/h was 2772, it's now 2700.
Max you could have in a single attribute was (15 base + 10 skill + 5 implant) * 1.1
Now the max is (17 base + 0 skills + 5 implant) * 1.0
The new max is 27 base + 5 implant.
Stupid keyboards, always too small for my fingers
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Halvus
Minmatar Sons Of 0din Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:33:00 -
[142]
Buying from the market is very laggy. I get the wallet flash but no item and no transaction in my wallet. So I repeat the purchase (thinking I had done something wrong) but still no item. Third time lucky I thought... but no. Then a minute or two later I get three items and three wallet transactions.
I think the market brokers are to blame. They're scamming us out of broker fees damn them!
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Khaemwese
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Posted - 2010.12.15 20:51:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Eija Riitta
Let me break it down to your level: The SP people got was not free, it was acquired over apropriate amount of time spent on learning skills. So the decrease of 72sp/hr is in no way remedied by the "free" SP, it's an actual increase in learning time that translates to over 600.000 SP in a year. So here's a little brain teaser for you: think before you flame, of you'll just make an ass of yourself.
It takes 632,235 SP to get to level 5 and to be loosing the 72 points you need to have both the primary and the secondary rank 3 skills at level 5, so if you use 72 points per hour from the reimbursed SP, it will take you at least 2 years before you are on the loosing side. Also don't forget that you can use the refunded SP on a skill that would take a longer time otherwise, like the Charisma based skills
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:02:00 -
[144]
Originally by: I'thari When you use up last available remap 1 year coundown starts. If you still have "x" remaps available - you will (most likely) always have "x". "X" will nither increase nor decrease in number (unless CCP will give/take away more remaps in future).
Kinda same as jumpclones: if you didn't use it for a year you won't be able to use it 365(6) times in a single day later
I guess that makes sense. Thanks. --
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:54:00 -
[145]
Forge market Died
"Market authorites were unable to process your order. Please try again."
Cant sell my Minerals in 4-4, I keep trying for the last 40 minutes and every time get this message.
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Wry Salen
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:07:00 -
[146]
Buying items on the Forge market (possibly others) is currently not working as it should. I can hit buy, see the walet flash, but the transaction won't go through, and isk won't be deducted from my wallet untill I restart the client entierly.
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Travis Steeman
TBC The Black Company
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:16:00 -
[147]
I logged in to re-allocate the skill points recovered from the removal of Learning Skills. I had approximately 2.2 mil SP to use.
I applied several without incident, working as intended.
I then attemped to apply points to Acceleration Control to complete it to Level 5. At this point, I had apprxomimately 1.4 mill SP to reallocate. I set the number to finish off, some 421k,, press the button and nothing happened.
The skill did not raise to level 5.
The remaining SP pool is now gone, as in it has completely disappeared from the top of the Skill menu where it was located when I first logged in.
There is no longer any option to apply any SP upon right click
My current Skill Points do NOT reflect that any SP has been allocated. I logged out last night with 4.3mil SP (Approximate). After allocating nearly 700k of SP before this issue, I still have only 4.3 mil SP in my Current Skills list.
Additional Information: Certification Planner window was open at the time, viewing the skills that were being raised by SP re-allocation.
Travis Steeman :: Veteran (Contact Epiphony or Bloodpetal ingame) |
chrome diopside
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:44:00 -
[148]
just wanted to mention that I've had an additional 12 hours added to the remaining 12 hours of a rank 6 level 5 skill. Is the new lower training rate of 2700 being applied retrospectively? Cos that just sucks... I spent almost 15 days on this and I was almost finished...
Hopefully you are already aware of this issue and dealing with it? Or do I have to raise a petition?
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Cadian Craymarris
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:57:00 -
[149]
So far I think this Sucks...... Give us back our learning skills I for one was better off.
Did CCP not say the skills base will be 20,20,20,20,19? They are all 17 like everyone's elses.
Also I did not get a remap.
I have seen a DEV commit about the re-maps and said it will be fixed, thank you I'll wait.
So far I have not seen anyone at CCP address the points issue, Did CCP change their mind and decide to make it all 17's?
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Jeff Nelson
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:09:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Fitzwitt Not sure I understand what was supposed to happen, but before the patch I had 8 days left on training Gallente industrial V, now it has increased to over 10 days, when I check my attributes I have more points than before (perception 27, willpower 21), so why is that it takes longer to train now?
Did they change the amount of SP gained per hour? I read the Dev blog (http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824) and no-where it states a change in the sp per hour...if that in fact is the case it just really sucks...confused now..
I'm guessing that since you didn't have your learning skills already at 5, and your training time went down, that you're a new character and still had the X2 training speed bonus, which is no longer in effect. So you will temporarily be slower at training than you were before - until you hit the point where the training bonus would have ended anyway, which I think is 1.6M sp. After that, you're better off.
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Jeff Nelson
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:13:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Cadian Craymarris
So far I have not seen anyone at CCP address the points issue, Did CCP change their mind and decide to make it all 17's?
It has always been all 17s. Please read one of the dozen comments, including post #98 on page 4 by CCP Navigator.
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Knathraq Drugahnij
Overlook Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:35:00 -
[152]
Seems the stupidity has no limit here, why don't you follow up on the messages coming from CCP instead of just whining. It would save alot of bull, about the 17/17/17/17/17, the first message about the subject the 20/20/20/20/19, has counted the +14 attributes into calculation but then ccp said that we would get an additional 14 attribute points that is why you all think it is not working or we haven't got them all but that is a misinterpretation. 17/17/17/17/17 + 14 extra = 20/20/20/20/19, and yes some will loose about 200 sp/hour, but you got a neural remap which will make up for that lower sp per hour - if you are smart... |
Masjheira
Minmatar Cursed Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:48:00 -
[153]
Some people seem to have got +2 free remap ... Is it normal ?
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Calen Harth
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:58:00 -
[154]
The in game browser appears not to be working when pulling character data to websites and caching is also not working correctly.
More info in this post. It's needs addressing as it's effecting several hundred users of the TRIAD website and is probably an issue for numerous other corp web sites too.
Thanks.
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Onyx Arcane
Indicium Technologies
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:59:00 -
[155]
The API doesn't take into account any of the reimbursed skill points that have been applied to this character in-game.
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gtiness
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Posted - 2010.12.16 00:37:00 -
[156]
I've launched the client 4 times so far. Twice it has completely locked, machine and all forcing me to power cycle.
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Cantara Evoka
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Posted - 2010.12.16 01:01:00 -
[157]
I have to report similar problems. The bulk data did get stuck at 21/46, like with some others, but it did push past this block. however, now the whole game is so "laggy" is the term I would use that it makes playing not enjoyable. I have decided to not play until this gets fixed as I can not mine, or mission, and I definitely wouldn't want to PVP without the system reacting quickly. I hope the patch on the patch on the patch will fix this issue. I will always shudder whenever a new release comes out, because the amount of bugs it brings it more than annoying. It ruins a good game experience.
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NarkoGirl
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Posted - 2010.12.16 01:01:00 -
[158]
Selling through "Corporation(button) -> Assets -> Offices -> [Station/System] -> Hangar Division" seems to be broken.
I get no sell UI up when doing this (Both remote sell and stationed @ same station as item.
Could someone verify this ?
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Jokath
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Posted - 2010.12.16 01:02:00 -
[159]
I am unable to log in. The install gets as far as creating the application\CCP folder and locks.
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Lord Ryan
Warriors of Faith
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Posted - 2010.12.16 01:15:00 -
[160]
Black screen of fail here on the Mac.
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gtiness
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Posted - 2010.12.16 01:36:00 -
[161]
Edited by: gtiness on 16/12/2010 01:38:22 plz delete
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Jess Saku
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Posted - 2010.12.16 02:02:00 -
[162]
Jita seems even more FUBAR then normal
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.16 02:14:00 -
[163]
Edited by: Diomedes Calypso on 16/12/2010 02:17:21
Originally by: HyperZerg
Originally by: CCP Navigator Yes. If you had no remaps available we have given you a free remap so you now have one. If you had one available you will now have two.
Please check the original post in this thread as there have been some issues with the free neural remap which will be fixed during downtime tomorrow.
If I would have my remap later this month. I'll get only a 0,05 free remap ? Your kidding right ?
Ditto here ... i've read the thread and I'm sorry if i missed the wording in how this is being addressed.
I have a remap coming in March..
I understand I am supposed to recieve a "free" implant.
It shows that I can remap now..but thats not any benefit at all.... I had my planning set up until march...the free remap would do me a lot of good after march because I could remap twice in the year following.
Really the best solution by far would be to start the timer whenever you use a remap, not when you use your last remap.
This is really a lump of coal if I get a useless (because I need to continue the next two months mapped as i am now) two month advance and other people who had just used one get a real benefit..
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Lord Ryan
Warriors of Faith
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Posted - 2010.12.16 02:26:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Lord Ryan Black screen of fail here on the Mac.
bump!
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.16 02:28:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Diomedes Calypso on 16/12/2010 02:35:23 The more I think of it, the more po'd I am.
The most simple way is to (edit)
allow each player to petition for an aditional remap the day he was supposed to recieve one, and to send an eve mail now with the date he was supposed to get one originally so that your logs would show something.
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Lord Ryan
Warriors of Faith
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Posted - 2010.12.16 03:10:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Lord Ryan Edited by: Lord Ryan on 16/12/2010 03:09:19
Black screen of fail here on the Mac.
BUMP!
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Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's Waterboard
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Posted - 2010.12.16 04:24:00 -
[167]
well was working fine 8 hours ago but now i get a blank chat box when starting to talk to agents apart from a lv 1 in the station im in.
so i decided to undock and noticed i wasnt able to warp anywhere and the only way to redock was to dubbleclick on the station (was a bit stressed out b4 i managed to redock due i was in CURSE!)
ive tried to clear cache files and other stuff but nothing seems to help
Recruitment
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Ytamii Arval
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Posted - 2010.12.16 05:46:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Knathraq Drugahnij Seems the stupidity has no limit here, why don't you follow up on the messages coming from CCP instead of just whining. It would save alot of bull, about the 17/17/17/17/17, the first message about the subject the 20/20/20/20/19, has counted the +14 attributes into calculation but then ccp said that we would get an additional 14 attribute points that is why you all think it is not working or we haven't got them all but that is a misinterpretation. 17/17/17/17/17 + 14 extra = 20/20/20/20/19, and yes some will loose about 200 sp/hour, but you got a neural remap which will make up for that lower sp per hour - if you are smart...
No limit indeed. You completely failed to understand what the issue was, but you do get top marks for contemptuousness.
Allow me to explain: when I first logged in this morning and opened the Character Sheet to Attributes, all of them showed up as 17. Just 17. That's 17 total; not 17 base plus whatever, straight 17 x 5 for a total of 85. The re-distributable points were not being added into the totals on the Attributes tab, nor the totals on the Attributes Overview. Got it?
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smashnecros
Wormhole Warriors
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Posted - 2010.12.16 05:54:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Tippia Nothing new. If you want to remap, you have to put your attributes within the minimum and maximum values: no less than 17 and no more than 27. You haven't lost or gained any points ù you just have too low base attributes and have to put two points into that lower-than-allowed attribute before you can proceed.
i don't want to do remap. So now i have 15 charisma - it's correct, but i had lost 2 points in other attributes
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ZyklonVee
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Posted - 2010.12.16 07:18:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Onyx Arcane The API doesn't take into account any of the reimbursed skill points that have been applied to this character in-game.
^Seconded. Have noticed this on all my accounts.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.12.16 07:31:00 -
[171]
Originally by: ZyklonVee
Originally by: Onyx Arcane The API doesn't take into account any of the reimbursed skill points that have been applied to this character in-game.
^Seconded. Have noticed this on all my accounts.
-Click REMAP -Click CANCEL
API will update, its gay, but thats how EVE rolls
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Merloth
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Posted - 2010.12.16 07:59:00 -
[172]
My training que is broken, no matter what skills I choose and press apply nothing happends. When i start a skill by right clicking it I now have two skills training with the same ending time. One of them having one million negative skillpoints. Bug report: 104486
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Marcus Afar
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Posted - 2010.12.16 08:17:00 -
[173]
Any kind of information about the fixes for MAC users would be greatly appreciated. As it stand the majority of us if not all can't log in.
Any kind of estimate or insight into when we will be able to log in would be greatly appreciated since the patch notes do not include any MAC reference.
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shasby
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Posted - 2010.12.16 08:58:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Rasz Lin
-Click REMAP -Click CANCEL
You have a CANCEL button..? You're one of the lucky ones :)
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DeT Resprox
Minmatar T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2010.12.16 09:02:00 -
[175]
see http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1432125
have i gone barking mad, or have you changed the eve image repository server links without giving any details that this would happen with the Incursion release. My site and most other sites are now utterly borked.
DeT Resprox T.R.I.A.D CEO INGAME CHANNEL: TRIAD AGENCY
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ZyklonVee
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Posted - 2010.12.16 09:13:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Rasz Lin
Originally by: ZyklonVee
Originally by: Onyx Arcane The API doesn't take into account any of the reimbursed skill points that have been applied to this character in-game.
^Seconded. Have noticed this on all my accounts.
-Click REMAP -Click CANCEL
API will update, its gay, but thats how EVE rolls
Tried this, didn't work. :( Please to be fixing API?
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Sayyahdina
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Posted - 2010.12.16 09:13:00 -
[177]
I had 864k in learning before the patch but only have 680k to reallocate after it. I know its not alot of missing SP but i had plans for it!
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Rada Ionesco
Caldari Club a Seal
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Posted - 2010.12.16 10:01:00 -
[178]
Fleet gang link related boosts don't seem to be in effect. Specifically I was running an Orca on an alt character with all the mining links in high slots for boost and none of it had any effect on my main. The alt is a level 5 Mining Director. Anyone else seeing this?
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half san
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.16 10:25:00 -
[179]
Well something is no right with attribute points
CCP Greyscale said in his blog
"All new and existing characters will have an extra 12 base points (ie, non-remappable) in each attribute"
With the standard mapping it's 8 base point in each attribute + extra 12 base points (ie, non-remappable) in each attribute = default character gets 20 points in each attribute.
But now base points in each attribute are 17/17/17/17/17???? insted of 20/20/20/20/19 how CCP Greyscale said in his blog.
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FoXX45
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Posted - 2010.12.16 10:41:00 -
[180]
Originally by: NarkoGirl Selling through "Corporation(button) -> Assets -> Offices -> [Station/System] -> Hangar Division" seems to be broken.
I get no sell UI up when doing this (Both remote sell and stationed @ same station as item.
Could someone verify this ?
I can verify this.
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Ima BigGayUnicorn
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Posted - 2010.12.16 10:41:00 -
[181]
Originally by: half san Well something is no right with attribute points
CCP Greyscale said in his blog
"All new and existing characters will have an extra 12 base points (ie, non-remappable) in each attribute"
With the standard mapping it's 8 base point in each attribute + extra 12 base points (ie, non-remappable) in each attribute = default character gets 20 points in each attribute.
But now base points in each attribute are 17/17/17/17/17???? insted of 20/20/20/20/19 how CCP Greyscale said in his blog.
There's quite a few previous posts covering this issue, TL;DR 17 across the board is correct.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.12.16 11:05:00 -
[182]
Originally by: half san With the standard mapping it's 5 base point in each attribute + extra 12 base points (ie, non-remappable) in each attribute = default character gets 17 points in each attribute.
But now base points in each attribute are correct, and I should learn to read.
Fixed it for you. _______________________ Drink Eau du Nichup«, the taste of heaven. Now available as Nichup Citrus« as well! |
rabidmonk
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Posted - 2010.12.16 11:44:00 -
[183]
hey, i seem to have lost some SP in the patch.... as a guess its about 100 -150 k but i cant be entirely sure, i didnt think it was something i would have to watch out for... hopefully this thursday patch will straighten things out. Keep up the great work CCP, you have made a great game and it only keeps getting better, good job guys
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Wunop Girms
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Posted - 2010.12.16 11:47:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Marcus Afar Any kind of information about the fixes for MAC users would be greatly appreciated. As it stand the majority of us if not all can't log in.
Any kind of estimate or insight into when we will be able to log in would be greatly appreciated since the patch notes do not include any MAC reference.
Same issue here, on OSX cannot login at all. How am I supposed to spend my skill points you big teasers
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ornster
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Posted - 2010.12.16 11:50:00 -
[185]
it was working on wednesday, but now on thursday I can't log in and it says incompatible version/incompatible build. what's going on
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Leeonwung
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Posted - 2010.12.16 11:56:00 -
[186]
since downtime i am getting an incompatible build message.... I have uninstalled the latest client patch but still getting the same error. What have you guys done
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Apoloz
Gallente Axon Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.12.16 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Apoloz on 16/12/2010 11:58:07 same here ornster
it said wud u like to download clicked yes and it would not download it
just get the same thing as u do cant find a patch link and when u download the latest patch and try and install it said u already got it so i dunno wats going on
ccp must be still doing somthing on there or it just not working [url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Apoloz][/url][ |
eXeCutA
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Posted - 2010.12.16 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: eXeCutA on 16/12/2010 12:02:55
For those of you that didn't see the notice about 'Extended Downtime'
eve online incursion 1.0.2 will be deployed thursday, december 16 reported by CCP Adida | 2010.12.15 20:22:29 | NEW
EVE Online Incursion 1.0.2 will be deployed Thursday, December 16, 2010. Incursion 1.0.2 includes several fixes to issues introduced by Incursion 1.0.1. Full patch notes of Incursion 1.0.2 can be found here. The deployment process will begin at 11:00 UTC and is expected to be completed by 13:00 UTC.
The reason for additional patch is outlined in the 1st post of this topic:
Important update: We intended to give every character a free neural remap as part of the Incursion 1.0.1 release. We have been made aware that not every character has received a free remap and we will aim to fix this during downtime on Thursday, December 16. We thank you for your patience.
Known issues:
*There was an issue where some players were unable to get the Echelon or the codebreaker. This was due to the way their gifts were applied to their accounts. This has been resolved and for these players to redeem their items they will need to relog. *We are aware of some issues with the Russian and German translations. These will be addressed tomorrow in Incursion 1.0.2 *There is an issue with the petition window. This will also be resolved tomorrow with Incursion 1.0.2 *Some players were not receiving a free neural remap. This will be resolved in tomorrow's patch.
I hope that helps those of you with confusion to why EVE is currently down.
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VLAD VIRONS
Gallente X-SENSE Technologies
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Posted - 2010.12.16 11:59:00 -
[189]
tryed login to the game: got the messege
There was a problem connecting to the server, possibly because: ò You have not established an internet connection ò A firewall is blocking the network connection ò The server isn't running at this time (downtime) The update that has been applied to the client could also be incompatible with the server. Would you like to remove the update and restart the client?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.16 12:00:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Leeonwung since downtime i am getting an incompatible build message.... I have uninstalled the latest client patch but still getting the same error. What have you guys done
Originally by: ornster it was working on wednesday, but now on thursday I can't log in and it says incompatible version/incompatible build. what's going on
Originally by: Apoloz same here ornster
the it said wud u like to download clicked yes and it would not download it
just get the same thing as u do cant find a patch link and when u download the latest patch and try and install it said u already got so i dunno wats going on
ccp must be still doing somthing on there or it just not working
They're updating to 1.0.2. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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Leeonwung
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Posted - 2010.12.16 12:02:00 -
[191]
oh ok. I thought the update to 1.0.2 was happening at the next DT
Cheers guys
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Tong Lein
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Posted - 2010.12.16 12:15:00 -
[192]
So I have a toon that I created recently that ttrained Learning for awhile but I dont get the points reimbursed with your patched patch of patches? Point for point you said!!
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JACK' DANIELS
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Posted - 2010.12.16 12:18:00 -
[193]
Seasons Greatings Adida,
I cant seem to log in today, its telling me i have a incompatible version but no avail updates is showing. yesterday i logged in and revieced all the updates and my gifts, thank you ccp, but i had one major bug. i did file a petion so you would know about it. i had no skillz in training. and when i tryed to put them in the skill queue it would not let me apply them. and then when i hit the remove skill button from queue a pop up would say there were no skills in the queue. very odd. i tryed the relog , clear the cache, reset settings, and so on,, but nothing seemed to help. so i lost all my skill training for yesterday and today until i can log in and see if you have fix these issues. im not worried about my lost skill training time to much i just wanted to help discribe the problem and help you fix the bug. {one tip}, i have multiple accounts and this account had a learning skill training when you guys removed them, and the other acounts didnt and the other accounts skill queue's are working perfectly. thank you all at ccp for the great things you have given us this year you really have made eve a better game for it. merry christmas and happy new year to all of you at ccp.
Best Wishes
JACK' DANIELS
THE BEST GAME ONLINE !!!
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Mamba Lev
Masturbating Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.12.16 12:45:00 -
[194]
Originally by: JACK' DANIELS Seasons Greatings Adida,
I cant seem to log in today, its telling me i have a incompatible version but no avail updates is showing. yesterday i logged in and revieced all the updates and my gifts, thank you ccp, but i had one major bug. i did file a petion so you would know about it. i had no skillz in training. and when i tryed to put them in the skill queue it would not let me apply them. and then when i hit the remove skill button from queue a pop up would say there were no skills in the queue. very odd. i tryed the relog , clear the cache, reset settings, and so on,, but nothing seemed to help. so i lost all my skill training for yesterday and today until i can log in and see if you have fix these issues. im not worried about my lost skill training time to much i just wanted to help discribe the problem and help you fix the bug. {one tip}, i have multiple accounts and this account had a learning skill training when you guys removed them, and the other acounts didnt and the other accounts skill queue's are working perfectly. thank you all at ccp for the great things you have given us this year you really have made eve a better game for it. merry christmas and happy new year to all of you at ccp.
Best Wishes
JACK' DANIELS
THE BEST GAME ONLINE !!!
Just like any other update they won't let you download it until they are happy it works, as of now you can download it.
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Bhaal Chinnian
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Posted - 2010.12.16 12:53:00 -
[195]
YES!! It is confirmed...Monkies DOOO throw poop! |
half san
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.16 12:58:00 -
[196]
Originally by: foksieloy
Originally by: half san With the standard mapping it's 5 base point in each attribute + extra 12 base points (ie, non-remappable) in each attribute = default character gets 17 points in each attribute.
But now base points in each attribute are correct, and I should learn to read.
Fixed it for you.
Well CCP blog said something complete diferent. you should read again.
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Shilee Icesaber
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Posted - 2010.12.16 13:15:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Shilee Icesaber on 16/12/2010 13:15:44 Post patch: I still can't apply my reimbursed skill points. Plus its a pain to even get the queue started up again, cant do it unless I replace the skill with another one then put in the one I want to train.
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rEcklEs PT
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Posted - 2010.12.16 13:51:00 -
[198]
After patching to Incursion 1.0.1 and appling skillpoints from reimbursement for a specialist science field skill (reaching lvl 5) the RP/day weren't updated on my R&D agents. I still see the same RP/day values when i was at lvl 4 on that particular skill. |
Rykoszet
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Posted - 2010.12.16 14:01:00 -
[199]
Edited by: Rykoszet on 16/12/2010 14:03:36 Edited by: Rykoszet on 16/12/2010 14:01:49 One question guys.... You told us: "We remove learnings and you get 20/20/20/20/19 statistics..."
In my attributes I can see that basic statistics are 17/17/17/17/17 ? I don't know if I didn't understand something or what?!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.16 14:36:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Rykoszet One question guys.... You told us: "We remove learnings and you get 20/20/20/20/19 statistics..."
In my attributes I can see that basic statistics are 17/17/17/17/17 ? I don't know if I didn't understand something or what?!
Read earlier posts to see the full answer. The short one is: no, they didn't say that.
They said "we remove learnings and new players get 20/20/20/20/19 (because they get the same +3/+3/+3/+3/+2 remap new players have been given for the last year and a half)". You simply get +12 to your base (unremappable) attribute points and then your remap and implants are applied on top of this ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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airo
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Posted - 2010.12.16 17:47:00 -
[201]
Has anyone found a fix for the bulk data problem? I am currently downloading the client all over again to see if this will fix the problem but if it doesn't I don't want to be out of the game for 2 days with no skill training running. Its not my fault I can't get in!
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Lord Ryan
Warriors of Faith
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Posted - 2010.12.16 18:16:00 -
[202]
Originally by: rabidmonk hey, i seem to have lost some SP in the patch.... as a guess its about 100 -150 k but i cant be entirely sure, i didnt think it was something i would have to watch out for... hopefully this thursday patch will straighten things out. Keep up the great work CCP, you have made a great game and it only keeps getting better, good job guys
Says the guy who can login.
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Corran Do'Urden
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Posted - 2010.12.17 07:27:00 -
[203]
So I got the free remap, but the timer was reset to the time I used the remap (tonight) and I lost the time of my current expected one (In February). Is that expected, or was the free remap not supposed to reset your time?
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Althos Silverwing
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Posted - 2011.02.02 12:43:00 -
[204]
I just redownloaded the most current offline Client version For eve, but it does see the server at all. It claims that the Server Status is Unknown. But EveHQ can see it just fine, give me the statistics of how many players are online at that time. 5 Months Ago when i played last, I had no problems. I have the Same ISP and exact same connection setup as before but with this recent update, I have been unable to play at all.
What Gives?
Who needs money, I just want a fleet of Hulks I Can control from one main ship and watch them bring me the ore i so love to look at. |
Althos Silverwing
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Posted - 2011.02.02 12:48:00 -
[205]
Originally by: airo Has anyone found a fix for the bulk data problem? I am currently downloading the client all over again to see if this will fix the problem but if it doesn't I don't want to be out of the game for 2 days with no skill training running. Its not my fault I can't get in!
Exactly. I cannot log in either. and it does not tell me its Incompatible because its the most current version available and no other version is working either.
Who needs money, I just want a fleet of Hulks I Can control from one main ship and watch them bring me the ore i so love to look at. |
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