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Tiberius StarGazer
The GreyWolf Paradigm
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:25:00 -
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since the introduction of ore holds in mining barges, and your ruthless targeting of jet canners you now suddenly have no targets to go for.
Now you drop cans in space or leave wreks as bait instead, but you dont gard them!
Thank you for all the salvage ISK your leaving me. |
James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2308
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:28:00 -
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Tiberius StarGazer wrote:since the introduction of ore holds in mining barges, and your ruthless targeting of jet canners you now suddenly have no targets to go for. Yes, surely the elimination of PvP is a positive change.
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Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
99
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:38:00 -
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...They can still gank you. Which means you lose around 250mil ISK.
Yes. They're just crying now that they can't take your ore, because that's the only reason they gank you... |
baltec1
Bat Country
1860
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:38:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets. |
Tiberius StarGazer
The GreyWolf Paradigm
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:39:00 -
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Its their own fault, jetcanning is no longer worthwhile, indeed mining is not worthwhile at all until you are trained up to use mining vessles.
Then add in the fact that they would rather go for easier targets rather than actually do some proper PVP then the natural course of evolution has taken place.
Noobies quickly learn not to jet can which means, no more targets! |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
492
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:41:00 -
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Tiberius StarGazer wrote:since the introduction of ore holds in mining barges, and your ruthless targeting of jet canners you now suddenly have no targets to go for.
Now you drop cans in space or leave wreks as bait instead, but you dont gard them!
Thank you for all the salvage ISK your leaving me. YOU SPELLED GRAD WRONG Nothing Found |
Tiberius StarGazer
The GreyWolf Paradigm
4
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:42:00 -
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Note, not talking about the higher end ganking of higher end ships, just the jetcanners |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
492
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:42:00 -
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Tiberius StarGazer wrote:Its their own fault, jetcanning is no longer worthwhile, indeed mining is not worthwhile at all until you are trained up to use mining vessles.
Then add in the fact that they would rather go for easier targets rather than actually do some proper PVP then the natural course of evolution has taken place.
Noobies quickly learn not to jet can which means, no more targets! BOY THOSE NOOBIES SURE SHOWED THEM PRIATES Nothing Found |
baltec1
Bat Country
1860
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:43:00 -
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Tiberius StarGazer wrote:Its their own fault, jetcanning is no longer worthwhile, indeed mining is not worthwhile at all until you are trained up to use mining vessles.
Then add in the fact that they would rather go for easier targets rather than actually do some proper PVP then the natural course of evolution has taken place.
Noobies quickly learn not to jet can which means, no more targets!
Fools still fly barges and they are just as easy to kill now as before. |
Alexzandvar Douglass
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
76
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Posted - 2012.08.12 19:47:00 -
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Stealth Bombers just can't stop throwing themselves at my Skiff.
Keep on coming, I need more Tier 2 salvage. |
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Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
3
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:01:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets.
You can't help stupid people |
Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
468
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:16:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets.
oooh gravy. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
576
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:18:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets. You don't learn, do you? Keep doing that, and soon you'll see the 30k ehp iteron. Take your ships and go play EVE the way it's supposed to be played.
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baltec1
Bat Country
1860
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:23:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:baltec1 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets. You don't learn, do you? Keep doing that, and soon you'll see the 30k ehp iteron. Take your ships and go play EVE the way it's supposed to be played.
I already pvp in an iteron and we have been ganking them for 9 years now. Also 30k tank will not stop me from blowing you up for the 9 billion isk cargo. There are so many options this guy could have used but no, he went for the iteron with next to no tank. |
Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
3
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:26:00 -
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Yah it's called a Interceptor :) |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1210
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:30:00 -
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Congrats OP on being an idiot.
HS pirates have been baiting with their own cans since... well longer than 2 years ago.
Leaving wrecks is nothing new. Sometimes you just can't get to it. Sometimes you don't care.
Also, some folks still can mine. I passed 14 can miners today going from Amarr to Jita (and thats only in the belts I checked). So nothing has changed.
Also OP, nothing short of making it impossible to aggress will stop a gank. And no amount of EHP can do this. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
158
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets.
lol nice ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:43:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets.
So, you ganked your alt with your alt? |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
80
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:45:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Tiberius StarGazer wrote:since the introduction of ore holds in mining barges, and your ruthless targeting of jet canners you now suddenly have no targets to go for. Yes, surely the elimination of PvP is a positive change.
Can flipping and suicide ganking are no more PvP than level 80s ganking level 20s in wow was.
The elimination of random antisocial acts are an improvement, and when resource prices drop you can thank CCP. If you want a real fight go pick on some other pirates... Although something tells me you wont because they are better equipped and more willing to fight back. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
576
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:46:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ptraci wrote:baltec1 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets. You don't learn, do you? Keep doing that, and soon you'll see the 30k ehp iteron. Take your ships and go play EVE the way it's supposed to be played. I already pvp in an iteron and we have been ganking them for 9 years now. Also 30k tank will not stop me from blowing you up for the 9 billion isk cargo. There are so many options this guy could have used but no, he went for the iteron with next to no tank.
Eh I honestly didn't look at the kill-mail besides seeing it was an iteron. Yeah ok, sweet kill. I'm surprised his ship didn't self destruct to get its own kill-mail. But still if indy haulers become the new gank target just for lulz, then expect them to be buffed too. |
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James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2315
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Posted - 2012.08.12 20:49:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:The elimination of random antisocial acts are an improvement, Random antisocial acts are the essence of EVE.
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Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
13
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Posted - 2012.08.12 21:00:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Shizuken wrote:The elimination of random antisocial acts are an improvement, Random antisocial acts are the essence of EVE.
I disagree. The essence of Eve is co-operation towards a common goal. |
malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
125
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Posted - 2012.08.12 21:04:00 -
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Ptraci wrote: You don't learn, do you? Keep doing that, and soon you'll see the 30k ehp iteron. Take your ships and go play EVE the way it's supposed to be played.
Got to ask. How is EVE "supposed" to be played?. Is there any hard, and fast rules, adhering your style of gameplay above that of anyone else's?
o7 |
Garreth Vlox
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
49
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Posted - 2012.08.12 21:31:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:baltec1 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets. You don't learn, do you? Keep doing that, and soon you'll see the 30k ehp iteron. Take your ships and go play EVE the way it's supposed to be played.
Who killed you in a hauler recently? This game is meant to be played however you want, if that involves dying in a fire while killing someone, it sucks to be the guy your killing. |
Lord Arakkis
Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire
34
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Posted - 2012.08.12 22:38:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:Ptraci wrote: You don't learn, do you? Keep doing that, and soon you'll see the 30k ehp iteron. Take your ships and go play EVE the way it's supposed to be played.
Got to ask. How is EVE "supposed" to be played?. Is there any hard, and fast rules, adhering your style of gameplay above that of anyone else's? o7
Chances are if you do something and make someone come here to cry about it, your doing something right Join the Knights Of Illusion STE Corporation! Casual and Hardcore gamers! |
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
576
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Posted - 2012.08.12 22:43:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:baltec1 wrote:http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14313421
We still have targets. You don't learn, do you? Keep doing that, and soon you'll see the 30k ehp iteron. Take your ships and go play EVE the way it's supposed to be played.
I just love the irony of that. HIghly amusing Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
576
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Posted - 2012.08.12 22:45:00 -
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Jaison Savrin wrote:James 315 wrote:Shizuken wrote:The elimination of random antisocial acts are an improvement, Random antisocial acts are the essence of EVE. I disagree. The essence of Eve is co-operation towards a common goal.
Quickly followed by random antisocial acts. You just lull them into a false sense of security with the co-operation thing. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
94
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Posted - 2012.08.12 22:45:00 -
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Jaison Savrin wrote:James 315 wrote:Shizuken wrote:The elimination of random antisocial acts are an improvement, Random antisocial acts are the essence of EVE. I disagree. The essence of Eve is co-operation towards a common goal.
You are both right! The true essence of Eve is what ever you want assuming is complies to the games limited rule set. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
13
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Posted - 2012.08.12 22:51:00 -
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Abel Merkabah wrote:
You are both right! The true essence of Eve is what ever you want assuming is complies to the games limited rule set.
I was actually just about to reply with something like that. It is what makes Eve a great frustrating wonderful annoying joyous enraging game. I don't like ganking. I wouldn't do it. I think there are much better places to put those talents. I wouldn't try to change the rules to make ganking against the TOS or anything though. I do support any efforts that give people the tools to counter the ganking though. Of course the thing about tools is that it is up to the target to use them. Thus, I think, the sandbox remains intact.
Me, for example, if I mined in high sec I would have tanked my Hulk regardless of these changes. Now, I'll just use a Mack or a Skiff depending on my needs. Err, though almost all of my mining is in 0.0 with Rorqual Boosters and other support. Which is so much safer then High-Sec imo lol
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Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
45
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Posted - 2012.08.12 23:04:00 -
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Ah, the domestic abusive relationship of industrial and pvpers. |
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