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nub spy
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:35:00 -
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hey chowdown.......... maybe you should tell your slaves (corpmembers) to post their deaths before you open your mouth 
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Screw everything Ive previously said. We are here to take your women.
I got dibs on Lallantes corpse
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:51:00 -
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Look mom, im on a photo ! (on the image i did make it out btw (armor tanked :p)).
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 28/01/2005 16:07:52
Originally by: StoreSlem At this point we have 18 battleships and 4 support, Shinra & co have 17 battleships and 2 support. By then shinra + m3g4 already lost three attleships.
So let me get this straight the 27 BS you suggest we had earlier was a typo or a lie?
Lets also be honest AvanCade (raven), amstaffu(scorp)and baytt(apoc). Were all ganks you picked up after are intial engagement, in which we lost 6 BS, although I am dubious about pegas dying in the fight, but then you retreated despite outnumbering us.
Lets face it fella's 3 more BS kills in the fleet engagement and a couple of ganks afterwoulds is hardly a crushing defeat. Considering we had to sit out in space to tempt you out of your hidy hole despite the fact you outnumbered us. I could bring up some stats of previous engagements, but we have class.
xx
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |

Chows Flamealt
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: nub spy hey chowdown.......... maybe you should tell your slaves (corpmembers) to post their deaths before you open your mouth 
The words of an alt sit so heavy on my heart.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:09:00 -
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Period Basis isnt gonna be Argentina.
Thats mostly directed at Xanadu.
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DeMundus
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Screw everything Ive previously said. We are here to take your women.
I said it all along... but nooo iam just a capo;)
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Von Kretschmer
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: StoreSlem
The FA led gang consisted of 24-25 battleship and ~10 support craft. The shinra dominant force attacking the station had 27 battleships,
How come the screenie shows 44 in gang chat? what were the other 17 doing?
Originally by: StoreSlem
As for losses, we have 10 verified shinra&co BS kills and ~5 support craft, while we infact lost one (was me) armageddon and 5~6 support craft.
Just checked the PBL kill board and there are 5 BS kills there (from this engagement), so where are the others?
It was a good fight and I think that your fleet got the better of it, but one battle does not win a war.
See you in Tpar
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Damion
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Damion on 28/01/2005 17:29:39
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 28/01/2005 16:07:52
Originally by: StoreSlem At this point we have 18 battleships and 4 support, Shinra & co have 17 battleships and 2 support. By then shinra + m3g4 already lost three attleships.
So let me get this straight the 27 BS you suggest we had earlier was a typo or a lie?
Lets also be honest AvanCade (raven), amstaffu(scorp)and baytt(apoc). Were all ganks you picked up after are intial engagement, in which we lost 6 BS, although I am dubious about pegas dying in the fight, but then you retreated despite outnumbering us.
Lets face it fella's 3 more BS kills in the fleet engagement and a couple of ganks afterwoulds is hardly a crushing defeat. Considering we had to sit out in space to tempt you out of your hidy hole despite the fact you outnumbered us. I could bring up some stats of previous engagements, but we have class.
xx
you saying that you have class = priceless :D
did you get the Safespot of of anyone last night considering you where convoing everyone in the gang to buy it ?
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:03:00 -
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Shinra for once (and I freely admit that its the exception) you got a *severe* trashing at roughly equal numbers.
At least have the cojunes to admit that - It's afterall, as you say, just one battle - Not the war.
And I would also appriciate if you would instruct your pilots to not use the cheap 'convo in the middle of combat' trick.
I immediatly got 4 of those when we warped in the first time - I really thought Shinra was above that. Really low guys (you know who you are).
(I deliberatly do not have autoreject on for various reasons - One beeing to 'identify' cheap scum like that) BIG Lottery
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Von Kretschmer
Originally by: StoreSlem
The FA led gang consisted of 24-25 battleship and ~10 support craft. The shinra dominant force attacking the station had 27 battleships,
How come the screenie shows 44 in gang chat? what were the other 17 doing?
Originally by: StoreSlem
As for losses, we have 10 verified shinra&co BS kills and ~5 support craft, while we infact lost one (was me) armageddon and 5~6 support craft.
Just checked the PBL kill board and there are 5 BS kills there (from this engagement), so where are the others?
It was a good fight and I think that your fleet got the better of it, but one battle does not win a war.
See you in Tpar
Of the 44 people in gang we didn't really have much more than the people on the screenie participate in the first engagement. Several were docked and some were out of system. Some were at a retreat safe with medic ships. It's also not entirely unlikely that a few were not completely aligned and missed the gang warp by some seconds.
Of the 27 ships that were originally pounding the station one of you warped to look for our fleet once we entered your scanners, 3 was shot dead and several more warped out because of focus fire or panic. Remember that the battle screenshot was taken 2-3 minutes into the fight (look at the timestamps on the 2 screenshots).
Also the PBL killboard is as I said not complete, for the obvious reason it is a PBL killboard and not a FA killboard. Many of the pilots sitting with killmails are FA people without any routine to post kills there, or indeed without any knowledge of it whatsoever. But alas, it's the only public killboard with information on that battle, so I posted it incase anyone would find it of interest.
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Shredder
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:14:00 -
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Yup, we had a bad day of it, good fight, heard we lost about 7 battleships during the fight, 4 lost during the main battle, 4 killed, then a furthur 3-4 before or after. (wasn't there myself though).
As for the convo thing, we certainly don't condone such behaviour, I hope it doesnt happen again.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:19:00 -
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For a significant plot twist, please turn to page 23. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

Simon Adebisi
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN For a significant plot twist, please turn to page 23.
ZOMG
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN For a significant plot twist, please turn to page 23.
Let me guess... Due to a significant fairybunny force, FA, FIX and Shinra are forced to a NAP to tackle this impressive force together?
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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Beatrice
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:34:00 -
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Ahh it seems fountain's empire is crumbling. I really fail to see why Fountain ever sought to expand beyond its region's boders. It is so blessed with resources that it could easily support twice its current population with room to spare. But with empire comes ego, and the risk of making enemies intent on destroying you entirely. Fountain itself would be very difficult to kill, requiring months of lockdown and vigilance. This is one reason Venal, Curse, and Stain have always been so difficult to wage war in. Unconquerable stations.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Shinra for once (and I freely admit that its the exception) you got a *severe* trashing at roughly equal numbers.
At least have the cojunes to admit that - It's afterall, as you say, just one battle - Not the war.
And I would also appriciate if you would instruct your pilots to not use the cheap 'convo in the middle of combat' trick.
I immediatly got 4 of those when we warped in the first time - I really thought Shinra was above that. Really low guys (you know who you are).
(I deliberatly do not have autoreject on for various reasons - One beeing to 'identify' cheap scum like that)
Please send me the 4 names ingame, and I will look into the matter.
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |

HyperBaton
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: TornSoul Shinra for once (and I freely admit that its the exception) you got a *severe* trashing at roughly equal numbers.
At least have the cojunes to admit that - It's afterall, as you say, just one battle - Not the war.
And I would also appriciate if you would instruct your pilots to not use the cheap 'convo in the middle of combat' trick.
I immediatly got 4 of those when we warped in the first time - I really thought Shinra was above that. Really low guys (you know who you are).
(I deliberatly do not have autoreject on for various reasons - One beeing to 'identify' cheap scum like that)
Please send me the 4 names ingame, and I will look into the matter.
And I will happily line 'em up and pod 'em 
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Von Kretschmer
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Posted - 2005.01.28 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: StoreSlem
Of the 44 people in gang we didn't really have much more than the people on the screenie participate in the first engagement. Several were docked and some were out of system. Some were at a retreat safe with medic ships. It's also not entirely unlikely that a few were not completely aligned and missed the gang warp by some seconds.
Of the 27 ships that were originally pounding the station one of you warped to look for our fleet once we entered your scanners, 3 was shot dead and several more warped out because of focus fire or panic. Remember that the battle screenshot was taken 2-3 minutes into the fight (look at the timestamps on the 2 screenshots).
Also the PBL killboard is as I said not complete, for the obvious reason it is a PBL killboard and not a FA killboard. Many of the pilots sitting with killmails are FA people without any routine to post kills there, or indeed without any knowledge of it whatsoever. But alas, it's the only public killboard with information on that battle, so I posted it incase anyone would find it of interest.
Thanks for the reply. I certainly found it interesting and it is always useful to get the other perspective of a battle.
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LB424
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Posted - 2005.01.28 18:46:00 -
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FWIW I've been fighting Shinra in PB since they arrived and I've only had the convo thing happen once. The likely cause is probably the use of the single click wheel menu rather than actual intent to cause mid-combat distraction. Tornsoul, being a popular target likely attracked a flurry of single click target attempts which, naturally, would result in multiple convo attempts. By all means investigate the matter, but don't immediately assume they've resorted to cheap tricks all of a sudden.
Shinra - I'm not defending you, I'm happy to see your ships go pop, but in the interests of a balanced conflict I wanted to throw that scenario out there.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.28 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: S3VYN on 28/01/2005 18:53:15
Originally by: S3VYN For a significant plot twist, please turn to page 23.
I was just trying to keep people from bailing out on page 22 so they'd get more great info, relevant to the subject of the thread. Geez... can't I just joke around?
I wasn't incenuating anything. I wasn't insulting anyone. I wasn't trying to demean any corporation or alliance. I was just trying to make some people laugh who are getting pretty heated in recent threads.
And we're on page 23! W00T W00T!
So about that plot twist, here we go...
After years of research Caldari scientists in the Period Basis region who were provided a refining facility by Shinra corporation have uncovered some shocking evidence that points to the following breathrough theory:
Cats and dogs do not get along.
This has led the scientists to pondering outside-the-box arguments to find that:
Squirrels and badgers are the true enemy of mankind.
Their discoveries are seemingly meaningful to the recent political temperment of the area, as squirrels and badgers have been seen attacking dogs and cats while cats and badgers have been seen chasing squirrels. More to come as the Shinra supported scientists uncover more universal secrets. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |

Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.28 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Shinra for once (and I freely admit that its the exception) you got a *severe* trashing at roughly equal numbers.
At least have the cojunes to admit that - It's afterall, as you say, just one battle - Not the war.
And I would also appriciate if you would instruct your pilots to not use the cheap 'convo in the middle of combat' trick.
I immediatly got 4 of those when we warped in the first time - I really thought Shinra was above that. Really low guys (you know who you are).
(I deliberatly do not have autoreject on for various reasons - One beeing to 'identify' cheap scum like that)
Intolerable if true
Evemail Names please.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.01.28 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: LB424 FWIW I've been fighting Shinra in PB since they arrived and I've only had the convo thing happen once. The likely cause is probably the use of the single click wheel menu rather than actual intent to cause mid-combat distraction. Tornsoul, being a popular target likely attracked a flurry of single click target attempts which, naturally, would result in multiple convo attempts. By all means investigate the matter, but don't immediately assume they've resorted to cheap tricks all of a sudden.
Shinra - I'm not defending you, I'm happy to see your ships go pop, but in the interests of a balanced conflict I wanted to throw that scenario out there.
For that scenario to be true - You would expect at least twice (or more) as many to have succesfully targetted me.
This was not the case.
I was more or less left alone (much to my surprice and pleasure - Bit of a waste of my setup though.. oh well..) - In other words - I was not called as primary (at least not for shooting at).
So while I agree, your scenerio bears mentioning (and could have been true), the lack of pilots targetting me renders it invalid (sadly).
And I'll EVE-mail you Guderian BIG Lottery
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.28 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: LB424 FWIW I've been fighting Shinra in PB since they arrived and I've only had the convo thing happen once. The likely cause is probably the use of the single click wheel menu rather than actual intent to cause mid-combat distraction. Tornsoul, being a popular target likely attracked a flurry of single click target attempts which, naturally, would result in multiple convo attempts. By all means investigate the matter, but don't immediately assume they've resorted to cheap tricks all of a sudden.
Shinra - I'm not defending you, I'm happy to see your ships go pop, but in the interests of a balanced conflict I wanted to throw that scenario out there.
TY for presenting that scenario. At no point did I call torn soul. Very few pilots in Shinra fire at people they just feel like shooting at. I would be shocked and appalled if what torn soul said is true. Suffice to say this matter is being looked into.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |

Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.29 02:09:00 -
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Its bull**** or badly designed buttons, There are no advantages to be gained by Convoing someone who isnt even the target so why would anyone do it on purpose?
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Mechanix
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Posted - 2005.01.29 02:19:00 -
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OMG 23 pages DIE THREAD DIE!!
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.01.29 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Voughn
History leasson needed? CFS told StA that it is ok to attack the delve station as FA had agreed to hand it over to CFS. Which ofc was just nonesense. We notified the attackers that by the agreement between FA and CFS, FA is declared station owner... you choose to ignore it. The result was that you faced our defence fleets and got flushed.
So thats the reason why you sent your fleet and start attacking StA before even 1 shot was fired. FA is not the only one that has informants, StA was well aware of the intentions of FA, we responded on your assault by taking the stations. On a side note CFS had never any control over StA's internal or external politics.
Originally by: Nathan Voughn
CA gave you a lot verbal support, gogo kill FA and stuff like that, but in the end, they watched you dieing.
Yes CA gave "verbal support" as you said, but as stated before Shinra offered help which we did not accepted.
Originally by: Nathan Voughn
I might also remind you that you guys obviously didnt do that well agianst CA either, because you kept requesting, sorry, demanding our ships to defend your assets and mining operations. Why ask for help if you did fight so well everyday?
No one from StA ever asked FA to protect any kind of operation. As for assets, as far as I remember the stations were YOUR assets and when CA took the stations WE fought to take them back just for you to send 1 ship to take back control, while we were still paying 5% tax. This was unacceptable, and all we asked was FA to protect their own stations with their own ships (or at least assist) when the need arissed.
Also I still dont understand why FA tries to make a good public face, its not like you need to impress someone with your goodwill. Why dont you say "You were a puny little alliance and we kicked you out so we can have a piece of 0.0 space which we can decorate with nice lil FA dots", we can all live with that, but no more lies pls, all of us had a rich dosis of it.
Anyway Mr Voughn, I'm sure you have more important matters at hand (especially these days) rather than bothering with such smacktastic topics.
Have a nice day, see you in space.
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.01.29 05:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nebba Kenezzer on 29/01/2005 05:54:59
Just wanted to add that FIX/FA/PBL have an unusual attraction to the "Block" command & "Unblock" command.
Very professional, indeed.
Dead babies.
Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media |

AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.29 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 29/01/2005 11:19:03 It was more like:
Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block
If you count correctly, it was 19 times. Screenie
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Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2005.01.29 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Its bull**** or badly designed buttons, There are no advantages to be gained by Convoing someone who isnt even the target so why would anyone do it on purpose?
In the Esc menu in-game, under the Generic menu, select Expand Action Menu With Middle-MouseButton, instead of With Left-MouseButton. That should avoid any and all complications in the future.
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