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Fangtooth
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Posted - 2005.01.18 11:43:00 -
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News Flash News Flash News Flash *******************************************
For the Last few Days, Shinra have held the Tpar-G station in Period Basis, PBL numbers have been decimated, and now a Shinra blockade of the station is in place. Shinra are now requesting all PBL corps to Join a NAP with them, in return for docking rights and a +5 standing with Shinra.
So far, 8 PBL and while listed Corps have joined the shinra NAP.
This latest attack seems to be part of a bigger attack on FA supply lines and FA friendly Corps.
But the real news in this , is a quote from a Shinra Commander,
We have the full backing of SE and Xetic, and were going to be here for a few months at least, we will have all 3 PB stations within the week.
Does this spell the end for PBL ? Will FA come to the rescue ? Has shinra and the remnant CA found a new home ? Are Shinra under contract to SE ?
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:05:00 -
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First post !!!!
Cartiff, CEO Euphoria Released NBSI 4TW
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 18/01/2005 12:06:51 Which Shinra commander gave you that quote. Or is that 2 quotes you have stuck together.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Bizarre
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 18/01/2005 12:06:51 Which Shinra commander gave you that quote. Or is that 2 quotes you have stuck together.
Sorry, I've been pretending I was a shinra member again. Won't do it again. -------------------------------------------------
Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Fangtooth
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:08:00 -
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Llante , or something like that,
you know the one, will get exact spelling later tonight
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Fangtooth
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:09:00 -
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Reserved,
for full transcript, at about 20:00 gmt going out :p
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Kreep13
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:10:00 -
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Wouldn't mind an invite when you get settled in Chow. You know for a little vacation after you get yourselves settled in. Or should I just come on down for the festivities?
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:28:00 -
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literally 48 hours camping the station... .omg!
This morning Fountain showed their true feelings on the region: A small fountain fleet (15BS ish) was able to rescue a few bedraggled blockadees from the station and try to escort them back up to Fountain. Our fleet managed to get the jump on them and in the loot that was recovered we found a LOT of megacyte and Zydrine! Looked a lot like FA were taking their mins and making a run for it.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Mystera
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:28:00 -
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Shows how much the new occupants know about the region if they think there are 3 stations to take over
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:28:00 -
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I e-mailed haxed Chowdown's account and got eve access. Soz :[
I also confessed ur undieing love for Tholarim.
I admit it, you got me. :[ Reverend Necrona |
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sutty
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Posted - 2005.01.18 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: sutty on 18/01/2005 12:52:14 48 hours is nothing, trying BKG station 7 days 24 hours a day, the people trapped inside started undocking to there death they was that bored.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.18 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mystera Shows how much the new occupants know about the region if they think there are 3 stations to take over
I think its pretty clear that this isnt a post by a Shinra player. Not when he talks about chatlogs and stuff.
Besides, Shinra doesnt have a gag order. I think thats all too clear sometimes.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.01.18 13:29:00 -
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Yes, Shinra are currently working for me.
I am personally paying Chowdown 2 jellybeans, an aftereight and one glass of soda per week for waging war against PGD. --------------------------------------
We are The Collective. Resistance is futile. |
Katya Detia
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Posted - 2005.01.18 13:31:00 -
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As much as i dislike Shinra, well some members of them.. I hope PBL breaks before them.
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CEO: Black Sea Industries
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The Monk
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Posted - 2005.01.18 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: The Monk on 18/01/2005 14:42:54 The opperation into Period Basis was a complete success and we have to thank all the enemies in the area that put up a brave fight to protect TPAR. Good fun was had by ShinRa and a lot of the PBL guys. ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |
Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.18 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Lallante on 18/01/2005 13:51:39 So far we have recovered the same number of BSs from safespots as we have lost.
3 big fights so far :) Hoping for more.
edit: As to that quote, its hardly word for word, I said we were ALLIED to XETIC and SE, and that they would back us rather than PBL, so PBL wouldnt be getting help from them. I did NOT say they would be attacking PBL or anything similar
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Maretha Thei
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:02:00 -
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My sources told me a somewhat different story:
Shinra tried to capture Tpar-G, but they. ehem. failed.
Sure they blocade Period Basis, and well PBL may have been unable to deal with them. But to my knowledge, they havent had the station.
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Goa'en
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:06:00 -
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plz miss ALT come down and have a look at who owns the station
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:06:00 -
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I think checking the map would find we own TPAR. Asking the locals would tell you we have owned TPAR since we arrived, and asking FA would tell you quite how badly we "failed" to destroy their 3 fleets over the last 3 days.
Nub.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:14:00 -
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We have no intention of forming an alliance or anything similar. However, we do want the residents to have a choice and many have made theirs. Some backed the wrong horse, butr they'll come around. I have met many very nice ppl and I am glad most will be staying here. After all, its their home not ours, OR Fountains.
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Estios
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:30:00 -
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My sources tell me Alts should STFU !!!
Happy killing guys, happy killing
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Fangtooth We have the full backing of SE and Xetic, and were going to be here for a few months at least, we will have all 3 PB stations within the week.
yeah... riiight
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Maretha Thei My sources told me a somewhat different story:
Shinra tried to capture Tpar-G, but they. ehem. failed.
Sure they blocade Period Basis, and well PBL may have been unable to deal with them. But to my knowledge, they havent had the station.
No, we dont have the station we h4xx0rd BIG and made the station call itself Shinra Em****ium ;).
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Katya Detia As much as i dislike Shinra, well some members of them.. I hope PBL breaks before them.
me knoo joo like meh
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The Monk
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Maretha Thei My sources told me a somewhat different story:
Shinra tried to capture Tpar-G, but they. ehem. failed.
Sure they blocade Period Basis, and well PBL may have been unable to deal with them. But to my knowledge, they havent had the station.
I'm a little confused how you can actually be so stupid to come out with a statement like that. I think you need to check your sources m8 we have had control of the station for a few days now. If you donÆt believe us come have a look at the station for urself instead of trying to spread useless propaganda!! ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |
Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.01.18 14:56:00 -
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so how exactly does it stand for white listed corps such as ourselves? I know we have a few members still down there that would like to get back to empire. Wots the chances of them making it out alive?
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Major Tarsis
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Posted - 2005.01.18 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow so how exactly does it stand for white listed corps such as ourselves? I know we have a few members still down there that would like to get back to empire. Wots the chances of them making it out alive?
Get your CEO to contact Lallante he will advise your CEO further to ensure no unfortunate incidents occur to your pilots |
Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.18 15:31:00 -
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Anyone can continue to use the stations or region AFTER THEY HAVE CONTACTED ME to arrange standings and a NAP. About 12 corps have done so now.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.18 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lallante on 18/01/2005 15:31:44 Double post.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.01.18 16:23:00 -
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GL to shinra... ;)
remember locals, shinra are your friends
My vids and random stuff |
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.01.18 16:34:00 -
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:) gl guys
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.01.18 16:45:00 -
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Good work Shinra, nothing more to say
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Cyran0
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Posted - 2005.01.18 17:01:00 -
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I would like to hear some names of the pbl resident corps that made NAP with Shinra for useing the refinery. You better do some protection for them boyz when they mine, because will be a Rheiland spawn in belt http://shinra.sgnonline.com/sigs/cyrano.jpg When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite |
Hanibal187
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Posted - 2005.01.18 17:06:00 -
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The Good Guys are in town.
Give us a ring at the Bada Bing to arrange a sit down.
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Maretha Thei
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Posted - 2005.01.18 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: Maretha Thei on 18/01/2005 17:41:27
Originally by: Maretha Thei My sources told me a somewhat different story:
Shinra tried to capture Tpar-G, but they. ehem. failed.
Sure they blocade Period Basis, and well PBL may have been unable to deal with them. But to my knowledge, they havent had the station.
I stand corrected. My sources just confirmed, that Shinra indeed captured Tpar station. My bad. ;)
I never said it was first hand information :P
btw: those flaming me for being an alt. I would love to be one, so if someone would care to adopt me.. that would be great.
/me knows how to mine /me knows how to drive big bad ships /me knows how to defend herself /me needs some more isk, which a main could easily provide /me needs some more stuff, which a main could easily provide /me also needs a main to help defend my honor when the bad boys come to take it. :P
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Grievance
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Posted - 2005.01.18 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: sutty Edited by: sutty on 18/01/2005 12:52:14 48 hours is nothing, trying BKG station 7 days 24 hours a day, the people trapped inside started undocking to there death they was that bored.
omfg that must have been funny.
'A man with a passion for Pirate fashion.' |
AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.18 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cyran0 I would like to hear some names of the pbl resident corps that made NAP with Shinra for useing the refinery. You better do some protection for them boyz when they mine, because will be a Rheiland spawn in belt
I dont think you need to know.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.18 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Edited by: Lallante on 18/01/2005 15:31:44 Double post.
You can delete those now, press edit and then the delete butten next to reset fields or something.
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Iznogud
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Posted - 2005.01.18 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: Katya Detia As much as i dislike Shinra, well some members of them.. I hope PBL breaks before them.
me knoo joo like meh
minus 1 point for jooh
http://www.shinra.com/ Shinra Republic Artillery-round deliver Izno~
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mark10201
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Posted - 2005.01.18 19:39:00 -
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Well done shinra
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.01.18 19:42:00 -
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pbl word of advice give into shinra fa won't help they only have interest in the tpar-g station and the tax --------------------------
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2005.01.18 19:43:00 -
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dude, PBL ARE FA. ever wondered why they were all members of fa? why there isnt an official PBL? |
Ranaa
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Posted - 2005.01.18 19:45:00 -
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hmm FA has a tough decision. They prolly cannot protect both NORAD, and PBL. Also NORAD doesnt fight, So maybe FA is counting on Xetic to protect NORAD for FA, But that would mean either Xetic is a FA puppet or Just Stupid. And If Xetic is supporting Shinra to attack PBL with is a FA satlelite..... HMMMM me thinks neither FA or Xetic is to smart. But more likely both FA and Xetic will attack The people holding outer ring since they are a bigger threat. and wipe Shinra out later, which will be easy since they are all lamers. But attacking the people holding outering is from all accounts very stupid as they seem to be WTFPAWNING all people that try to match them. This is a very exiting time indeed. /me is glad to be in SE |
Jorev
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Posted - 2005.01.18 19:56:00 -
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Can't help but rejoice at hearing this news. Long overdue. I hope BIG never gets the station back. Who knows, they are resillient and have deep pockets.
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berge
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Posted - 2005.01.18 20:18:00 -
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Put it how you want! Still all this mess is about changing one ruller to another. This is NOT the spirit of a free-space.
BTW. What will happen when SHINRA get's his payment for this job and take his ships out?! The new puppets will have to find another MASTER to cry to, maybe they will let them mine some.
Indeed is an utopia to try to keep an open space for all those empire guys that never saw an 0.0 before. But it can be done. And is nothing to do with FA/SE/XETIC. It's about trying to get fun from game while you all are playing it for fun. And fun it is. It's real fun fighting with shinra daily(against them). Thx chowdown, we needed to keep our fighters in a good shape!
------------------------------------------------ "Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail!" |
d'Mortaigne
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Posted - 2005.01.18 20:22:00 -
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Gl Shinra;)
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Mayas
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Posted - 2005.01.18 21:54:00 -
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I never knew which side the PBL was on... now i know, and since they seem to repeat the mistakes of the past when they should know better i hope shinra either makes them stand up to FA or evict them!
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.18 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: OMGWTFHAX dude, PBL ARE FA. ever wondered why they were all members of fa? why there isnt an official PBL?
For once, PBL isnt as much organised. For twice, alliance making costs loads of money. Money has to be gatherd, that can't be done without organisation.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.18 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: benwallace pbl word of advice give into shinra fa won't help they only have interest in the tpar-g station and the tax
FA did come to help, once. With a 120+ fleet.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.18 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ranaa hmm FA has a tough decision. They prolly cannot protect both NORAD, and PBL. Also NORAD doesnt fight, So maybe FA is counting on Xetic to protect NORAD for FA, But that would mean either Xetic is a FA puppet or Just Stupid. And If Xetic is supporting Shinra to attack PBL with is a FA satlelite..... HMMMM me thinks neither FA or Xetic is to smart. But more likely both FA and Xetic will attack The people holding outer ring since they are a bigger threat. and wipe Shinra out later, which will be easy since they are all lamers. But attacking the people holding outering is from all accounts very stupid as they seem to be WTFPAWNING all people that try to match them. This is a very exiting time indeed. /me is glad to be in SE
If i disregard the last few lines, i say you are smart.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.01.18 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Fangtooth News Flash News Flash News Flash *******************************************
For the Last few Days, Shinra have held the Tpar-G station in Period Basis, PBL numbers have been decimated, and now a Shinra blockade of the station is in place. Shinra are now requesting all PBL corps to Join a NAP with them, in return for docking rights and a +5 standing with Shinra.
So far, 8 PBL and while listed Corps have joined the shinra NAP.
This latest attack seems to be part of a bigger attack on FA supply lines and FA friendly Corps.
But the real news in this , is a quote from a Shinra Commander,
We have the full backing of SE and Xetic, and were going to be here for a few months at least, we will have all 3 PB stations within the week.
Does this spell the end for PBL ? Will FA come to the rescue ? Has shinra and the remnant CA found a new home ? Are Shinra under contract to SE ?
News Flash News Flash ********************************
Period basis now has 3 stations!!!! way to go
At least get your friggin info on the region right before posting crap. open map/show stations in space= correct info.
" Stay Frosty "
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.01.18 22:19:00 -
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NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH
OMG IT ONLY HAS TWO.
gg SNRA --------
FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU. |
DYANA IOANA
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Posted - 2005.01.18 22:41:00 -
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Maybe he count a POS ans 2 stations.
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.01.18 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ranaa and wipe Shinra out later, which will be easy since they are all lamers.
Love you too mate -------------------------
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.18 23:05:00 -
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Ok
I lied. It was lallante, evil cretin that he is. But i Eternally <3 Chowdown. Activor is a nub tho. Yes i'm drunk, but that's irrelevant an englightend ones judgement such as myself is not swayed by alcohol.
PBL, embrace Shinra, get on TS with them, fly with chowdown, it's fun... so long as u dont die :[ Reverend Necrona |
BlackKnight
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Posted - 2005.01.18 23:08:00 -
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SHINRA 4 TEH WIN!!!!!!
Good Luck out there Servent of The Scordite Gods |
DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.01.18 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: BlackKnight SHINRA 4 TEH WIN!!!!!!
Good Luck out there
hi2u... seconded :)
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Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2005.01.18 23:27:00 -
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Period Basis Under Seige II?!??!?
Meh, first movie kinda bit, ended on a sour, anticlimactic note.
[sarcasm] Why make a sequel for gods sake? Oh, right ... right, to free the common folk from the velvet glove of the ebil Fountain rich people. Feh, if you hate FA so much, why attack PBL? Attack -fountain- ... its over there, and leave PBL alone! They could have taken the station back for themselves if BIG and the rest folded under the brunt of your glorious, righteous war.
Oh, wait, too late for that option ... gotta, um .. justify it quickly and shell out favors to the survivors who didn't fire atcha, in exchange for a newer, better SHINRA TAX!! Be free, be free everyone, you don't pay BIG anymore, you pay SHINRA! Ahhh ... much better ... yeah. [/sarcasm]
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.19 00:00:00 -
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Difference, we are in the area, and defending it. FA isnt.
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Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2005.01.19 00:06:00 -
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Edited by: Mrissa Easeah on 19/01/2005 00:06:50
Originally by: AvanCade Difference, we are in the area, and defending it. FA isnt.
Really? You'll blow away SNIGG, RUS, m0o pilots that show up to have some fun with your 'allowed to dock and pay fees' neutrals?
Or do you mean 'defending the turf you've claimed for yourself?' That's true. FA doesn't seem to be atm. But at the same time, there are Shinra posts saying how surprised you guys were that FA was part of the defense you met when you took the area ...
Your custodial duties are just beginning. For the sake of the locals you imply the defense/protection of I personally hope you aren't lying, or just parsing your words cleverly to cover your butt.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.19 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mrissa Easeah Edited by: Mrissa Easeah on 19/01/2005 00:06:50
Originally by: AvanCade Difference, we are in the area, and defending it. FA isnt.
Really? You'll blow away SNIGG, RUS, m0o pilots that show up to have some fun with your 'allowed to dock and pay fees' neutrals?
Or do you mean 'defending the turf you've claimed for yourself?' That's true. FA doesn't seem to be atm. But at the same time, there are Shinra posts saying how surprised you guys were that FA was part of the defense you met when you took the area ...
Your custodial duties are just beginning. For the sake of the locals you imply the defense/protection of I personally hope you aren't lying, or just parsing your words cleverly to cover your butt.
Nothing to see here ppl, go about your business.
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Iznogud
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Posted - 2005.01.19 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Iznogud on 19/01/2005 00:29:20
Originally by: Ranaa hmm FA has a tough decision. They prolly cannot protect both NORAD, and PBL. Also NORAD doesnt fight, So maybe FA is counting on Xetic to protect NORAD for FA, But that would mean either Xetic is a FA puppet or Just Stupid. And If Xetic is supporting Shinra to attack PBL with is a FA satlelite..... HMMMM me thinks neither FA or Xetic is to smart. But more likely both FA and Xetic will attack The people holding outer ring since they are a bigger threat. and wipe Shinra out later, which will be easy since they are all lamers. But attacking the people holding outering is from all accounts very stupid as they seem to be WTFPAWNING all people that try to match them. This is a very exiting time indeed. /me is glad to be in SE
Lol you sound more lame dude
http://www.shinra.com/ Shinra Republic Artillery-round deliver Izno~
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.19 00:28:00 -
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Rus and m0o wouldnt be so rude. Snigg... well we dont know them that well, if they attacked our NAPd people we would attack them, without doubt.
FA ARE down here, I distinctly saw a BIG guy in local today before he logged at a safespot. Seems he was hoping he could dock and pick up the HUGE tax fund BIG has accumulated.
Total BS losses for the campaign stand at 3 now, total captures only 2: Defecit :(
We dont pretend to be anything other than what we are. We are a better master than FA because we are better pilots than FA, we are more present in TPAR than FA, and our terms are better than FAs (.5% less tax, POSs can be built, Ice can be mined (both illegal under FA/PBL).
We are HOPING that FA tries again, prefereably not with 120 though (like last time..we just waited 2 hrs for it to drop to 70 odd then killed them with 32 in gang). Until then, we will own the station and continue to make good relationships with local corps.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.01.19 00:35:00 -
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Mrissa Easeah your a forum ***** I see 5+ posts form you today play eve not the forums --------------------------
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Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2005.01.19 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: benwallace Mrissa Easeah your a forum ***** I see 5+ posts form you today play eve not the forums
Flame.
Actually, if I could justify playing eve at WORK!! I would, I can't, so I keep abreast of politics and in game-events and business and other things between answering phones, filing and transcribing reports.
Hmm .. you posted a few today yourself benwallace.
Unlike you, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you work for a living as well.
"Gee ... well, 5+ posts in a day! Better do something about this b*tch! Better sling crap at her!"
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Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2005.01.19 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Rus and m0o wouldnt be so rude. Snigg... well we dont know them that well, if they attacked our NAPd people we would attack them, without doubt.
FA ARE down here, I distinctly saw a BIG guy in local today before he logged at a safespot. Seems he was hoping he could dock and pick up the HUGE tax fund BIG has accumulated.
Total BS losses for the campaign stand at 3 now, total captures only 2: Defecit :(
We dont pretend to be anything other than what we are. We are a better master than FA because we are better pilots than FA, we are more present in TPAR than FA, and our terms are better than FAs (.5% less tax, POSs can be built, Ice can be mined (both illegal under FA/PBL).
We are HOPING that FA tries again, prefereably not with 120 though (like last time..we just waited 2 hrs for it to drop to 70 odd then killed them with 32 in gang). Until then, we will own the station and continue to make good relationships with local corps.
*nods* That's, actually pretty enlightening, honest, and heartening to hear.
I personally don't have any stake in PBL, other than its a neighbor, and I want my neighbors to be stable, peaceful regions.
SE is exemplary, and until now PBL has been as well, so its at least a little understandable that I'd regret seeing them replaced by a corp that's raided our space since time immemorial.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.19 00:58:00 -
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Well at least you can answer respectfully sometimes :)
Its always better to live in interesting times eh?
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2005.01.19 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Well at least you can answer respectfully sometimes :)
Its always better to live in interesting times eh?
I'll take that as a compliment ... I think.
Actually, I try to be respectful of people as a general rule. Sometimes I do have a problem with their messages is all, and normally I don't let that bring my voice out to the forefront. Just lately, there's a lot, closer to home, to me personally, and more at stake as well.
Yes, interesting times ... I just freaking need a breather once in awhile. For me, the last time 'Times' weren't 'interesting' was just prior to the Tri-Region wars down here.
Lost a couple ships to Omega and RUS before then, but that was plenty to keep my hackles up. I've flown past a couple of your pilots in an industrial of late, going opposite ways in FIX sovereign space ... I won't pretend that wasn't a little of a rush, worrying about being tackled etc.
So far, I've yet to have the honor of facing your pilots in combat, though I have played tag with one in a pod in 9CG who pretty much knew he was 'checked' ... eventually he spent a good deal of his time popping up at various gates trying to sneak past - lasted some 4 hours before I had to log for sleep.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.19 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mrissa Easeah
SE is exemplary, and until now PBL has been as well, so its at least a little understandable that I'd regret seeing them replaced by a corp that's raided our space since time immemorial.
Actually, the plan is to make the area open to all friendly corps in Eve to use. If there is an alliance or formal group setup there, it will not include Shinra. We strive to make this an open, free area for all ppls who are friendly. I submit this would neve happen under FA's yoke because they have far too many enemies because of their past transgressions.
A free, realtivily safe Period Basis is the goal and our gift to the Eve community.
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Svabbi k
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Posted - 2005.01.19 03:01:00 -
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ãi
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.19 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mrissa Easeah
Originally by: Lallante Well at least you can answer respectfully sometimes :)
Its always better to live in interesting times eh?
I'll take that as a compliment ... I think.
Actually, I try to be respectful of people as a general rule. Sometimes I do have a problem with their messages is all, and normally I don't let that bring my voice out to the forefront. Just lately, there's a lot, closer to home, to me personally, and more at stake as well.
I think people may flame you because although you're pashionate about the game (which is out right commendable, always nice to see that, show's that the game is doing what it's supposed too) you're not too clued up (as little offense meant as possible). You've been on here recently claiming things that have recently turned out to be false (I.E Shinra's inability to hold onto a goal).
Forums are part of the game, we can all post here, in some sense it makes it more interesting, so go right ahead. I'm sorry if this post seemed inflamed, had a bit to drink admitedly . Reverend Necrona |
S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.19 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Originally by: Mrissa Easeah
Originally by: Lallante Well at least you can answer respectfully sometimes :)
Its always better to live in interesting times eh?
I'll take that as a compliment ... I think.
Actually, I try to be respectful of people as a general rule. Sometimes I do have a problem with their messages is all, and normally I don't let that bring my voice out to the forefront. Just lately, there's a lot, closer to home, to me personally, and more at stake as well.
I think people may flame you because although you're pashionate about the game (which is out right commendable, always nice to see that, show's that the game is doing what it's supposed too) you're not too clued up (as little offense meant as possible). You've been on here recently claiming things that have recently turned out to be false (I.E Shinra's inability to hold onto a goal).
Forums are part of the game, we can all post here, in some sense it makes it more interesting, so go right ahead. I'm sorry if this post seemed inflamed, had a bit to drink admitedly .
You should drink less. I'm not sure what you're claiming ShinRa has accomplished, exactly. But feel free to be a fan-boy.
To the ShinRa meb (darkryder I think) who claimed that ShinRa was taking the area to make it free for all... which would never happen because FA just had too many enemies... that's classic!
It was worded such that I honestly couldn't tell if you were serious or oozing with sarcasm. Well done. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.19 03:24:00 -
[73]
Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Originally by: Mrissa Easeah
Originally by: Lallante Well at least you can answer respectfully sometimes :)
Its always better to live in interesting times eh?
I'll take that as a compliment ... I think.
Actually, I try to be respectful of people as a general rule. Sometimes I do have a problem with their messages is all, and normally I don't let that bring my voice out to the forefront. Just lately, there's a lot, closer to home, to me personally, and more at stake as well.
I think people may flame you because although you're pashionate about the game (which is out right commendable, always nice to see that, show's that the game is doing what it's supposed too) you're not too clued up (as little offense meant as possible). You've been on here recently claiming things that have recently turned out to be false (I.E Shinra's inability to hold onto a goal).
Forums are part of the game, we can all post here, in some sense it makes it more interesting, so go right ahead. I'm sorry if this post seemed inflamed, had a bit to drink admitedly .
You should drink less. I'm not sure what you're claiming ShinRa has accomplished, exactly. But feel free to be a fan-boy.
To the ShinRa meb (darkryder I think) who claimed that ShinRa was taking the area to make it free for all... which would never happen because FA just had too many enemies... that's classic!
It was worded such that I honestly couldn't tell if you were serious or oozing with sarcasm. Well done.
I submit to you that Shinra has far more friends in Eve now than FA. If you doubt that you are deluding yourself.
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Hquesinovium
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Posted - 2005.01.19 03:27:00 -
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S3VYN, your hopeless. If shinra take the area, or even all of the old CFS turf, good for them. And of course SE is supplying them, we have been running missions nonstop to get as many kittens as possible. blah blah blah.
Quote: I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is the victory over self.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.19 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hquesinovium S3VYN, your hopeless. If shinra take the area, or even all of the old CFS turf, good for them. And of course SE is supplying them, we have been running missions nonstop to get as many kittens as possible. blah blah blah.
Thanks for clearing that up. I had hoped SE would hold onto their morals as opposed to bedding up with long-time enemies. But at least it is good to know where SE officially stands, which is directly opposed to MANY agreements that they have made, written and signed.
The reason I asked what someone was suggesting ShinRa had accomplished is that they basically took over a station... I didn't realize that was an accomplishment but evidently it takes less to impress some than it takes to impress me. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.19 03:50:00 -
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Shinra are SE puppets
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.19 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Hquesinovium S3VYN, your hopeless. If shinra take the area, or even all of the old CFS turf, good for them. And of course SE is supplying them, we have been running missions nonstop to get as many kittens as possible. blah blah blah.
Thanks for clearing that up. I had hoped SE would hold onto their morals as opposed to bedding up with long-time enemies. But at least it is good to know where SE officially stands, which is directly opposed to MANY agreements that they have made, written and signed.
The reason I asked what someone was suggesting ShinRa had accomplished is that they basically took over a station... I didn't realize that was an accomplishment but evidently it takes less to impress some than it takes to impress me.
Ohh please your taking the veiw point of one SE Shinra Fan, and taking it as the official viewpoint of an alliance. Are you new to this diplomacy thing? Has anyone got a good FAQ or beginners guide for this guy.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.19 04:31:00 -
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Edited by: S3VYN on 19/01/2005 04:35:51 Thanks for the replies guys...
Dunno what I would do if it weren't for ShinRa and their superhuman ability to see every thread and post to it.
I'm surprised it took you guys so long to post.
FWIW - Any SE representative should feel free to debunk the statements made by your alliance member above.
It is nice to know that I have your attention, you guys always seem to address me directly. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Avernus
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Posted - 2005.01.19 04:33:00 -
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Time to take a breather... anyone got a Quafe? I'll even settle for that cheap Caldari imitation if you got it?
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.19 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN Edited by: S3VYN on 19/01/2005 04:35:51
It is nice to know that I have your attention, you guys always seem to address me directly.
We try to answer questions so long as they arent by an alt. Since you post with your main, you get the due respect.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.19 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: S3VYN Edited by: S3VYN on 19/01/2005 04:35:51
It is nice to know that I have your attention, you guys always seem to address me directly.
We try to answer questions so long as they arent by an alt. Since you post with your main, you get the due respect.
Well, if you guys feel that I somehow slighted you or that I'm unduly aggressive towards you my apologies. My goal is to represent FIX with as much honor and honesty as is possible, that often puts me directly adverse to you guys...
It has gotten to the point where I can't post anything, anywhere without getting a pretty immediate response from VERY aggressive people. The reasons probably vary per person and sometimes it gets to me and I respond strongly where I should have been more considerate.
Accept my apologies if I was offensive, that wasn't my intention. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2005.01.19 05:30:00 -
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Edited by: Mrissa Easeah on 19/01/2005 05:31:24
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Originally by: Mrissa Easeah
Originally by: Lallante Well at least you can answer respectfully sometimes :)
Its always better to live in interesting times eh?
I'll take that as a compliment ... I think.
Actually, I try to be respectful of people as a general rule. Sometimes I do have a problem with their messages is all, and normally I don't let that bring my voice out to the forefront. Just lately, there's a lot, closer to home, to me personally, and more at stake as well.
I think people may flame you because although you're pashionate about the game (which is out right commendable, always nice to see that, show's that the game is doing what it's supposed too) you're not too clued up (as little offense meant as possible). You've been on here recently claiming things that have recently turned out to be false (I.E Shinra's inability to hold onto a goal).
Forums are part of the game, we can all post here, in some sense it makes it more interesting, so go right ahead. I'm sorry if this post seemed inflamed, had a bit to drink admitedly .
Accusation highlighted.
Rev, with all due respect guy, I've not mentioned once ShinRa's capabilities, or their goals. I'm well aware I have -little- formal knowledge other than what I see going on right next door, and whatever you guys say here on the forums.
My concern is with the sincerity with which your forces claim to be, if anything, better defenders for a the station you 'freed'. And I went so far as to imply I hope you guys aren't full of it, which I'll let time bear out. Wait and see, in otherwords.
Lallante addressed those concerns in her post above, so for now, I'm taking her at her word.
I pass no judgement on ShinRa as a corp or a force to be reckoned with. I do voice my concerns, and they've been treated, sometimes with a modicum of respect.
Seriously though, I'm a big girl. I'd hope people would be wise enough not to flame, and I know you haven't, but please, don't start putting words in my mouth.
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.19 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Shinra are SE puppets
Hay your right for once
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.19 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: AvanCade Shinra are SE puppets
Hay your right for once
Cheer up dude, it might never happen.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.19 09:56:00 -
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S3VYN;
The reason we are able to keep so abreadtst of the forums(apart from the fact that we have the most forum *****s per m3 of any corp in eve atm), is that there is VERY little resistance to us in PB. We see far more NAPd people per day than we see enemies.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Hackett
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Posted - 2005.01.19 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante apart from the fact that we have the most forum *****s per m3 of any corp in eve atm.
Your forum whorage is indeed powerful, but you are not an EVOLutionary yet...(said in a Darth Vader voice)
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.19 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hackett
Originally by: Lallante apart from the fact that we have the most forum *****s per m3 of any corp in eve atm.
Your forum whorage is indeed powerful, but you are not an EVOLutionary yet...(said in a Darth Vader voice)
Yes, I do miss Homo
Never thought I'd say that.
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.01.19 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: benwallace on 19/01/2005 11:29:28
Originally by: Mrissa Easeah
Originally by: benwallace Mrissa Easeah your a forum ***** I see 5+ posts form you today play eve not the forums
Flame.
Actually, if I could justify playing eve at WORK!! I would, I can't, so I keep abreast of politics and in game-events and business and other things between answering phones, filing and transcribing reports.
Hmm .. you posted a few today yourself benwallace.
Unlike you, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you work for a living as well.
"Gee ... well, 5+ posts in a day! Better do something about this b*tch! Better sling crap at her!"
shouldn't you be working at work not posting on forums --------------------------
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.01.19 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Mindlles on 19/01/2005 11:44:59 ohh what a flame post.
Saw respect being said manny times in this posts. And i just had to ad. I do respect the guys i attack or get attacked by. I may be joking around in local. I do admit if i get destroyed, if the guys i fight against do a better job then we do so they win a battle.Its all for the good fun =)
BUT
Alot of this attacking corps around are using a very boring tacktic atm. They come into the space in fleets and when ppl come whit same forces or bigger they logg off. And waits for 20mins. and some logg back on, they see the system is still guarded. they logg off. We succesfully driven out enemys becouse we been able to hold our grounds and camp the loggers out of it manny times. Sadly PBL did not show that strengh and well...
I do accept if you run away, but have a funny story about that to. One group camped a importen system, the defenders came whit a force whit some more ships "frigs". they then run and screams noob bloobers in local.... That actully ****ed me off alot. If the guys are known for having pilots logged of in the system. Would you not bring a couple more ships to be on the safe side?. then you check the intel, and it shows we have the same amount of ships? Exept a couple more frigs??
Guys if you going to be so good and strong, and hardcore pvpers and what ever. Plz show some respect and maybe stay and fight?
Well we can all hope that ccp put in some new nice thing whit the new claim space option on pos. that dont allowes ppl that are whit bad standing of the alliance to logg off, "well their ships disipear". Would make the game much more intrested.
Note to this do. This is defently not only directed to Shinra as a corp. Its alot more corps out there that are using the same thing ;/
And btw
Respect =)
lol
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.01.19 12:16:00 -
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o dear, well my new years resolution has already been shot to bits (not posting on forums anymore) so i might as well reply to that mindles.
when i was in kr0m...we went down there with 6 bships and a cruiser (and a DIE. ceptor), killed some guys in a2...we then went to 9cg and fought with 22 of u in local..that isnt logging off is it?
the next day 3 of us camp A2 (me and some die guys) FIX wait over half an hour to get 15 people together to attack 3 of us...u think we couldnt see a blob in the next system?
20 sent after 6 of us when shiva first came out..(shinra came aswell that night)
i know i used to smack all over the forums and ***** it a lot. but smack ingame is something i dont do, and the smack i recieved from FIX was the worst i ever encountered. dont mean to look like im crying here but local was just spammaged of smackage. all towards me, when i wasnt in local id have mails sent to me aswell ffs.
Fix in many peoples eyes are a small spawn of FA - Blob tactics to the max. so dont lecture people on not fighting fairly when shinra are fighting an alliance or 3 ;)
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Bazman
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Posted - 2005.01.19 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mindlles Edited by: Mindlles on 19/01/2005 11:44:59 ohh what a flame post.
Saw respect being said manny times in this posts. And i just had to ad. I do respect the guys i attack or get attacked by. I may be joking around in local. I do admit if i get destroyed, if the guys i fight against do a better job then we do so they win a battle.Its all for the good fun =)
BUT
Alot of this attacking corps around are using a very boring tacktic atm. They come into the space in fleets and when ppl come whit same forces or bigger they logg off. And waits for 20mins. and some logg back on, they see the system is still guarded. they logg off. We succesfully driven out enemys becouse we been able to hold our grounds and camp the loggers out of it manny times. Sadly PBL did not show that strengh and well...
I do accept if you run away, but have a funny story about that to. One group camped a importen system, the defenders came whit a force whit some more ships "frigs". they then run and screams noob bloobers in local.... That actully ****ed me off alot. If the guys are known for having pilots logged of in the system. Would you not bring a couple more ships to be on the safe side?. then you check the intel, and it shows we have the same amount of ships? Exept a couple more frigs??
Guys if you going to be so good and strong, and hardcore pvpers and what ever. Plz show some respect and maybe stay and fight?
Well we can all hope that ccp put in some new nice thing whit the new claim space option on pos. that dont allowes ppl that are whit bad standing of the alliance to logg off, "well their ships disipear". Would make the game much more intrested.
Note to this do. This is defently not only directed to Shinra as a corp. Its alot more corps out there that are using the same thing ;/
And btw
Respect =)
lol
I and many others in our corp have no problem fighting numerically superior forces, the thing is, there is a point where there *are* too many ships to fight, and avoiding a fight is the only option, like when 100+ pilots were brought down to take on 30 or so of our forces, only a complete fool would engage with odds of near 4 to 1 against :P
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Albus
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Posted - 2005.01.19 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Albus on 19/01/2005 12:37:35
Originally by: Mindlles Alot of this attacking corps around are using a very boring tacktic atm. They come into the space in fleets and when ppl come whit same forces or bigger they logg off. And waits for 20mins. and some logg back on, they see the system is still guarded. they logg off. We succesfully driven out enemys becouse we been able to hold our grounds and camp the loggers out of it manny times. Sadly PBL did not show that strengh and well...
Note to this do. This is defently not only directed to Shinra as a corp. Its alot more corps out there that are using the same thing ;/
I'm not sure why you're including Shinra in this group. We NEVER run away from an even fight and we frequently fight outnumbered. We will on occasions all log off when we're totally outblobbed, because there is such a thing as suicide, and sitting in a safespot is boring as hell.
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.19 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Drogos on 19/01/2005 14:35:44 My corporation is a member of PBL, and an "FA puppet". GLT has had our home in Period Basis for quite some time, and we have no intention of leaving anytime soon. Our reasons for becoming involved with PBL in the first place are rather simple: We like the area and we like the neighbors. Originally by: Darkrydar Actually, the plan is to make the area open to all friendly corps in Eve to use.
A commendable goal, under any circumstances... even these. Unfortunately, your next quote belies your true intentions. Originally by: Darkrydar If there is an alliance or formal group setup there, it will not include Shinra.
So, if Shinra wish "open" space, but are unwilling to put the time and effort into keeping it "open", what does that leave you with? Anarchy, which would certainly meet the definition of "free and open", if you squint at it real hard. Originally by: Darkrydar We strive to make this an open, free area for all ppls who are friendly. I submit this would never happen under FA's yoke because they have far too many enemies because of their past transgressions.
It's a shame, really. You were doing so well until you tried to get into the rhetoric. If you keep everyone going on emotion, hopes and dreams, you would probably do OK. Unfortunately for you, application of logic rather shreds your quotes. To whit: Under FA, the relative safety and security of Period Basis is in their best interest, as it increases the amount of minerals they will get as tax. I will not debate the lack of FA presence now, or in the past, in defense of the region. FA wants to have their cake and eat it too. Originally by: Darkrydar A free, realtivily safe Period Basis is the goal and our gift to the Eve community.
How magnanimous of you. Your "gift" is akin to giving first-time parents an extremely loud and annoying toy, and then not even having the grace to include the batteries.
Perhaps FA is the lesser of two evils... -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.19 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 19/01/2005 14:56:41
Originally by: Mindlles Edited by: Mindlles on 19/01/2005 11:44:59 ohh what a flame post.
Saw respect being said manny times in this posts. And i just had to ad. I do respect the guys i attack or get attacked by. I may be joking around in local. I do admit if i get destroyed, if the guys i fight against do a better job then we do so they win a battle.Its all for the good fun =)
BUT
Alot of this attacking corps around are using a very boring tacktic atm. They come into the space in fleets and when ppl come whit same forces or bigger they logg off. And waits for 20mins. and some logg back on, they see the system is still guarded. they logg off. We succesfully driven out enemys becouse we been able to hold our grounds and camp the loggers out of it manny times. Sadly PBL did not show that strengh and well...
I do accept if you run away, but have a funny story about that to. One group camped a importen system, the defenders came whit a force whit some more ships "frigs". they then run and screams noob bloobers in local.... That actully ****ed me off alot. If the guys are known for having pilots logged of in the system. Would you not bring a couple more ships to be on the safe side?. then you check the intel, and it shows we have the same amount of ships? Exept a couple more frigs??
Guys if you going to be so good and strong, and hardcore pvpers and what ever. Plz show some respect and maybe stay and fight?
Well we can all hope that ccp put in some new nice thing whit the new claim space option on pos. that dont allowes ppl that are whit bad standing of the alliance to logg off, "well their ships disipear". Would make the game much more intrested.
Note to this do. This is defently not only directed to Shinra as a corp. Its alot more corps out there that are using the same thing ;/
And btw
Respect =)
lol
FIX always outblobs us, usually with greater odds then 3:1. And we fight outnumbered loads of times, i think even more times we fight outnumbered then we have the upperhand.
My video, that will be released comming week, proves we fight heavily outnumbered.
I also have screenshots of FIX blobbing up when we got scouted.
And if we have better odds then FIX, FIX starts running as well, so c'mon, be more honest and real.
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Avernus
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Posted - 2005.01.19 15:11:00 -
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Quote: FIX always outblobs us, usually with greater odds then 3:1. And we fight outnumbered loads of times, i think even more times we fight outnumbered then we have the upperhand.
My video, that will be released comming week, proves we fight heavily outnumbered.
I also have screenshots of FIX blobbing up when we got scouted.
And if we have better odds then FIX, FIX starts running as well, so c'mon, be more honest and real.
Be more honest and real you ask. Look, where have we denied our tactics for using superior numbers in our home space? We haven't, to the contrary, we've actually stated that we do so. We haven't said that Shinra won't fight when outnumbered, and we don't really expect you to fight when too heavily outnumbered.
Can we be any more honest and real than that? Not really.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.19 15:17:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 19/01/2005 15:25:11
Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
Originally by: Mrissa Easeah
Originally by: Lallante Well at least you can answer respectfully sometimes :)
Its always better to live in interesting times eh?
I'll take that as a compliment ... I think.
Actually, I try to be respectful of people as a general rule. Sometimes I do have a problem with their messages is all, and normally I don't let that bring my voice out to the forefront. Just lately, there's a lot, closer to home, to me personally, and more at stake as well.
I think people may flame you because although you're pashionate about the game (which is out right commendable, always nice to see that, show's that the game is doing what it's supposed too) you're not too clued up (as little offense meant as possible). You've been on here recently claiming things that have recently turned out to be false (I.E Shinra's inability to hold onto a goal).
Forums are part of the game, we can all post here, in some sense it makes it more interesting, so go right ahead. I'm sorry if this post seemed inflamed, had a bit to drink admitedly .
You should drink less. I'm not sure what you're claiming ShinRa has accomplished, exactly. But feel free to be a fan-boy.
<3 chowdown.
Listen. 1 corporation has took on 1 alliance and pacified the region of FA resistance, they've shown FA's true colours and more to the point shown good will to the corps that have stopped fighting them. That's what ShinRa has accomplished.. exactly. Only 3 corps remain hostile i believe. Let's see how long that lasts.
The simple fact you asked the question shows your lack of understanding, that or you're being purposefully ignorant in a vain attempt to slander ShinRa's reputation and ability. Probably a bit of both i would imagine.
In response to Mrissa.
I aint in Shinra myself, i'm not down south - far from it infact just to let ya know.
As for if ShinRa are capable of defending the area better than FA did. Let me ask you this, did FA actually defend the region? I wouldn't know, it's been a long time since i was there. From what i understand it was the locals that did the defending. Perhaps FA would come down when a huge threat came and it looked as though they'd lose their inc.. i mean stations.
Another thing is that 2 entire alliances joined together in an attempt to do what ShinRa have achieved. Ok so that may only show their offensive capabilities and yes we wont be able to determine their defense ones untill they've been in the area for a while, if indeed they plan to do so. Reverend Necrona |
Guderian
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Posted - 2005.01.19 15:35:00 -
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The following is posted under the assumption that PBL isn't 'free and open' under the reign of FA.
Originally by: Drogos
Originally by: Darkrydar If there is an alliance or formal group setup there, it will not include Shinra.
So, if Shinra wish "open" space, but are unwilling to put the time and effort into keeping it "open", what does that leave you with? Anarchy, which would certainly meet the definition of "free and open", if you squint at it real hard.
If we were to stay and 'occupy' Period Basis, it couldn't be considered 'free and open'. On the other hand, if an alliance capable of defending themselfs took over Period Basis, Shinra's presence wouldn't be needed, and anarchy wouldn't be in place.
Originally by: Drogos
Originally by: Darkrydar We strive to make this an open, free area for all ppls who are friendly. I submit this would never happen under FA's yoke because they have far too many enemies because of their past transgressions.
It's a shame, really. You were doing so well until you tried to get into the rhetoric. If you keep everyone going on emotion, hopes and dreams, you would probably do OK. Unfortunately for you, application of logic rather shreds your quotes. To whit: Under FA, the relative safety and security of Period Basis is in their best interest, as it increases the amount of minerals they will get as tax. I will not debate the lack of FA presence now, or in the past, in defense of the region. FA wants to have their cake and eat it too.
If we consider FA to have more enemies than Shinra, then the rhetoric isn't flawed and the logic holds. Actually it only strengthen the first postulate, since a free alliance, even though the seed to this new alliance was planted by Shinra, would have less enemies than before under the reign of FA. This is due to the simple fact, that current enemies of FA wouldn't have their attention on Period Basis, because FA wouldn't be present there.
Originally by: Drogos
Originally by: Darkrydar A free, realtivily safe Period Basis is the goal and our gift to the Eve community.
How magnanimous of you. Your "gift" is akin to giving first-time parents an extremely loud and annoying toy, and then not even having the grace to include the batteries.
Perhaps FA is the lesser of two evils...
Whether the last statement was a bit too 'voluminous', I will let the readers decide. :)
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tastinn
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Posted - 2005.01.19 15:46:00 -
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I find logging off when outnumbered not a bad thing..... I find attacking a system and then logging of when the guys you attack get a fleet orgenized and have maby more numbers very lame.. sad even....
My opinions do not reflect my corps opinion... _______________________ The Collective |
Temp Alt1
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Posted - 2005.01.19 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Temp Alt1 on 19/01/2005 15:53:28 Maybe its time for those ShinRa guys to fix their signatures and replace the "CA" in the upper right hand corner with "SE"
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.19 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Drogos on 19/01/2005 18:41:03
Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: Drogos
Originally by: Darkrydar If there is an alliance or formal group setup there, it will not include Shinra.
So, if Shinra wish "open" space, but are unwilling to put the time and effort into keeping it "open", what does that leave you with? Anarchy, which would certainly meet the definition of "free and open", if you squint at it real hard.
If we were to stay and 'occupy' Period Basis, it couldn't be considered 'free and open'. On the other hand, if an alliance capable of defending themselfs took over Period Basis, Shinra's presence wouldn't be needed, and anarchy wouldn't be in place.
If you propose to come into PB, "liberate" us from our FA "overlords", and then stand back and watch as a new alliance attempts to organize itself, don't do us any favors. We're in the process of that now, and your attempts at "liberation" are rather undermining the process.
Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: Drogos
Originally by: Darkrydar We strive to make this an open, free area for all ppls who are friendly. I submit this would never happen under FA's yoke because they have far too many enemies because of their past transgressions.
It's a shame, really. You were doing so well until you tried to get into the rhetoric. If you keep everyone going on emotion, hopes and dreams, you would probably do OK. Unfortunately for you, application of logic rather shreds your quotes. To whit: Under FA, the relative safety and security of Period Basis is in their best interest, as it increases the amount of minerals they will get as tax. I will not debate the lack of FA presence now, or in the past, in defense of the region. FA wants to have their cake and eat it too.
If we consider FA to have more enemies than Shinra, then the rhetoric isn't flawed and the logic holds. Actually it only strengthen the first postulate, since a free alliance, even though the seed to this new alliance was planted by Shinra, would have less enemies than before under the reign of FA. This is due to the simple fact, that current enemies of FA wouldn't have their attention on Period Basis, because FA wouldn't be present there.
Your rhetoric is flawed because the underlying premise is false. Shinra has no interest in Period Basis long-term, and has publicly stated their lack of commitment to the region. Taking a blind stab, I would say Shinra's long- and short-term goals are the destruction and dissolution of the Fountain Alliance, by whatever means necessary.
If you wish to create a "free and open" Period Basis, your methods are...strange. To put it another way, your stated aims and the means you are using to achieve them don't add up. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to do the sums from that point. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.19 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: tastinn I find logging off when outnumbered not a bad thing..... I find attacking a system and then logging of when the guys you attack get a fleet orgenized and have maby more numbers very lame.. sad even....
My opinions do not reflect my corps opinion...
Well that is your opinion. Picture this scenario, you move into a system with 39 pilots of which 30 are BS. Despite the fact that local stands at over double your number you stay in open space attacking a station for around 2 hours. During this time period you whatch a blob start ambling down from FA. After sending a covert ops pilot to investigate this glowing red ball he informs you it consists of around 30 BS and an equal number of support craft.
Knowning that local has around the same consistency in make up, the corporation remains attacking the station until this other blob is only 3-4 jumps out. At this point the smaller force warps to safe spot, at the same time the majority of enemies jump out of local and go up to join the blob converging from FA. Making a blob which your covert ops pilot confirms with numbers of upward of 100(134).
Despite this as the enemy jump into tpar the smaller 40 man force warps into them and begins to engage. A fight would have have followed had the enemy fleet not started warping out at jump in despite there overwhelming numbers. This results in the destruction of 3 of there BS and a number of frigs + cruisers. When the large fleet finally gathers the courage to warp back to the g8 the greatly outnumbered 40 man fleet tactically withdraws losing nobody. Faced with the overwhelming odds in local, the commander(me) suggests that the fleet go and have a cup of tea, and come back in a couple of hours. On return the numbers are more palletable only 100:36, a fleet battle is the result and the majority of the enemy fleet perishes over 2 engagements.
Since that point there have been no large engagements, that was Sunday.
To my knowledge since then Shinra has lost:
2 BS's in engagements in PB 1 BS from a gank outside the TPAR station
We have gained 2 BS which from busted safe spots.
We have killed well over 50BS, and this is a highly conservative figure as I am unsure of are kills.
As far as I am concerned the member of PBL have fought with guts and conviction.
That is the story of Shinra in PB, we have the FRAPS to prove it!
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.19 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Temp Alt1 Edited by: Temp Alt1 on 19/01/2005 15:53:28 Maybe its time for those ShinRa guys to fix their signatures and replace the "CA" in the upper right hand corner with "SE"
Maybe if FA gets the upper hand ShinRa will leave SE and join them.
Maybe we don't give a damn about cowards who hide behind alts. Have a nice day.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.01.19 16:17:00 -
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hmmm avancade you going to realse a video. All might for my own fan club.. Never liked you. to much in local.
Well to some of the funnier shinra guys. Yeah some off you iknow have been fighting outnumberd. Offcurse so, And run when the fleet is 3:1, is nothing wrong in. That is just taking care off your self. Well sadly im up for the pvp so when moo and shinra have been 3:1 vs us we have stayed and fight a couple of times i belive. And quite succesfully 2. Sure we lost ships doing so. But so have you, And its all for the good fun.
Go to headquaters of the guys you fighit and logg off ;/ Not the fun thing to do. I never logged of in curse space while rading that, sure perhaps you really need to leave the computer. but a gang of 22 leave the comptuer at same time, and be back 20mins l8ter. hmm perhaps not.
Sadly FIX are such geeks so we sitt and camp the system until you leave or die. Sure manny ships will arrive to. Its our homespace. So ppl turn up right away.
And my suggiestion to this would be rather easy. Have a pos in the system. And ppl whit bad standings cant logg off. Then the pos will be for some tactical use to. And if its in one system, you just jump to the next one. And can logg of their, If you need to logg off and go be nice to the bottle of vodka and your girls. But logg of as a tactic would be not as a effective then.
And max little max.........
Well cu all =)
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Marnarok
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Posted - 2005.01.19 16:37:00 -
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Shinra Rules!!
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.19 17:12:00 -
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Quote: I aint in Shinra myself, i'm not down south - far from it infact just to let ya know.
Then how do you propose that your information is somehow more valid than that of someone who lives there and spends ALL of their time mixed up in negotiations and politics regarding that area? If you are, by your own admission, not involved with the south and have no interests there I don't see what you are basing your posts on... if it's second-hand information please state it as such rather than stating it as if it were fact.
The only horse I have in this race is ShinRa's accusations of FIX and FIX's accusations of ShinRa, both seem to revolve around tactics so I'm going to take a second and point some things out.
1. No one questions the validity of logging off when you are far outnumbered. 2. It would be silly to question the validity of huge fleets showing up when you invade someone's territory. After all, the ships were ALREADY there (maybe spread out in a 5-7 system area) and all you did was force them all into the same system.
Now to pontificate further...
RE: 1. Taking a couple of ships into enemy territory and shooting up some haulers, then logging off when 20-30 ships show in local looking for you is a way to avoid sitting and doing nothing. No one considers this lame (that I'm aware of).
HOWEVER...
Assembling a fleet (a fleet being 15+ ships) and synchronizing the moving of that fleet into enemy territory, then logging that fleet off in an enemies station system IS questionable. Once you pair this with that same fleet logging on/off again in unison and attacking only when the system they are in is fairly empty it is what many would refer to as lame. You absolutely, positively, must assume (in particular if you say you are "experienced") that when you invade known enemy territory the enemy will show up with overwhelming force to fight back. Therefore, don't plan the trip if you can't pay the toll booth fees is what I think the general sentiment is on this.
RE: 2. "Blobbing" isn't an ideal "fighting" situation for anyone. However, it is THE ideal solution for discouraging enemy attacks on your sovereign territory. The best way to win a conflict is to force your enemy to retreat, having overwhelming forces accomplishes this most of the time.
If corporations who complain about "blob" this and "blob" that were serious about PVP they would be fighting other corporations who were out looking for PVP. There are hundreds of systems in EVE where PVP-centric players can accumulate and fight EACH OTHER without having to attack those who don't want to, or don't know how to fight.
Now to address accusations towards FIX.
You accuse us of "blobbing" unneeded. Let me make something clear. FIX has over 1,000 members. FIX is an alliance which was built by and for the PVP corporations in the area. It is not at ALL unfeasible to think that at any given time 1/10 of our total membership is online and looking for a fight. So you can assume that if you do some attacking in FIX space you have the pretty much undivided attention of a minimum of 100 pilots. They may not all always show up, but they're almost always aware of the situation and it hits every one of our minds, "should I go and fight, or will they just run?" You absolutely must understand something from our perspective if you are to understand what I'm trying to say... to you guys it seems as if these fights are a "gang fight" setup where you just let a couple of guys go at it while the rest look on. To us, it is a military action. Now let me explain...
Gang fights are win/loss based. As in, "Oh ya dude, I kicked his ass!" Then several pals pat the guy on the back, buy him a drink and say, "Ya duder, you're the man."
Military activities, however, focus on the grand scheme. This means that there are people in leadership positions who are charged with the following: 1) eliminate the threat; 2) minimize friendly losses. Note that "kill a bunch of dudes" is nowhere in their responsibilities.
So in recap, to all of these corporations who say "Yarr! We want PVP so DIE MINER CAREBEAR SCUM!" I submit this: Go fight someone who wants a fight and wants to fight on your terms. IE, ShinRa fighting VoTF (an example, not a shot at either of these corporations who I hold in a certain high regard even if my persona doesn't always allow me to show it). This would provide great entertainment for the universe in addition to the pilots involved and would do away with a lot of the need for the arguments that occur here on these boards... ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
tastinn
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Posted - 2005.01.19 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: tastinn I find logging off when outnumbered not a bad thing..... I find attacking a system and then logging of when the guys you attack get a fleet orgenized and have maby more numbers very lame.. sad even....
My opinions do not reflect my corps opinion...
Well that is your opinion. Picture this scenario, you move into a system with 39 pilots of which 30 are BS. Despite the fact that local stands at over double your number you stay in open space attacking a station for around 2 hours. During this time period you whatch a blob start ambling down from FA. After sending a covert ops pilot to investigate this glowing red ball he informs you it consists of around 30 BS and an equal number of support craft.
Knowning that local has around the same consistency in make up, the corporation remains attacking the station until this other blob is only 3-4 jumps out. At this point the smaller force warps to safe spot, at the same time the majority of enemies jump out of local and go up to join the blob converging from FA. Making a blob which your covert ops pilot confirms with numbers of upward of 100(134).
Despite this as the enemy jump into tpar the smaller 40 man force warps into them and begins to engage. A fight would have have followed had the enemy fleet not started warping out at jump in despite there overwhelming numbers. This results in the destruction of 3 of there BS and a number of frigs + cruisers. When the large fleet finally gathers the courage to warp back to the g8 the greatly outnumbered 40 man fleet tactically withdraws losing nobody. Faced with the overwhelming odds in local, the commander(me) suggests that the fleet go and have a cup of tea, and come back in a couple of hours. On return the numbers are more palletable only 100:36, a fleet battle is the result and the majority of the enemy fleet perishes over 2 engagements.
Since that point there have been no large engagements, that was Sunday.
To my knowledge since then Shinra has lost:
2 BS's in engagements in PB 1 BS from a gank outside the TPAR station
We have gained 2 BS which from busted safe spots.
We have killed well over 50BS, and this is a highly conservative figure as I am unsure of are kills.
As far as I am concerned the member of PBL have fought with guts and conviction.
That is the story of Shinra in PB, we have the FRAPS to prove it!
Well i was not talking about shinra more like supremecy, ass, clankillers and corps like that
I think you guys did a great job _______________________ The Collective |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.19 17:16:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 19/01/2005 17:16:22 delete *******s flame
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Posted - 2005.01.19 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 17:31:23 Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 17:31:11 I was frapsing the first engagment with the 100+ fleet chow is talking about - sadly I suck at converting fraps and uploading it, but got some nice vido raw in a folder here on my PC. I'll see if I can get some of the SNRA guys to make something of it - but here is a screenshot.
Until then u have to settle for this shoot: Enemy Fleet -First Contact
EDIT: alot of them already warped out as this was taken.
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Mystera
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Posted - 2005.01.19 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Mystera on 19/01/2005 17:39:32 G-Q station is under control by PBL, we are far from beaten and will not relinquish our home or sign with you. Losses have been heavy in large fleet confrontation, I take my hat off to shinra for their ability but we got more where they came from and are not going away.
Don't believe all the propaganda from the military organisation that is Shinra, it's part of the tactics.
PB was already free space, so you offer no gift. NAPing neutrals who were on our whitelist changes nothing.
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Cpt Max
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Max on 19/01/2005 18:06:32 Shinra are not a long term threat to Period basis,
merely ships passing in the night,
your plan to turn FA's allies against them has failed, infact you have achieved quite the opposite,
Many PBL corps have moved to FA space to assist in the northern battles, as this is the real threat to PBL,
So Congratulations on increasing the ranks of FA,
and hope to see you soon
through my Targeting Cross Hairs
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Lo3d3R on 19/01/2005 18:17:00 20:00 GMT hot sex at TPAR-G planet IX
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 19/01/2005 18:31:42 while on the note of FIX...a few of us wondered down there for a 'day trip' due to boredom in the north. within 10 mins of being down there i had already recieved a mail of smack. this was not suprising however, i had predicted it.
linked up with some rus..went to 9cg..killed stuff..waited for fix to get 2-1 odds + they then sat outside station, we warp in, they die. we win. gf. the only people smacking in local were actually the fix. they were promptly silenced after the fight however.
CA were smack talkers, but i understand why, in an alliance of what was their size, its impossible to keep tabs on all of them, with FIX however, it is litterally an alliance of smack talkers. this was experienced again today in the local of 9cg. in the past i have spoken to quite a few FIX reps to ask them to put their people in line, if they have bothered to attempt this, they have failed. This is sad as forum smackage i see no problem with, forums are there to talk in and there will be 'arguments' however ingame smack is retarded and just generally pathetic. I call on FIX again to get their players into line.
Anyway..this was about PBL originally, get back to that!
Last post i will make, i want to salvage something from my new years resolution
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN RE: 2. "Blobbing" isn't an ideal "fighting" situation for anyone. However, it is THE ideal solution for discouraging enemy attacks on your sovereign territory. The best way to win a conflict is to force your enemy to retreat, having overwhelming forces accomplishes this most of the time.
We call it 'doing a FA'.
You have two reasons for blobbing, one is just weakness, ill let you chose.
1) You blob because you do not want to engage the enemy. You know the enemy will not attack a blob because of the lag.
2) You blob because you want to equal the number that you and your enemy has.
FIX uses 1.
PvP Corporations (who enjoy doin' it) use 2.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mindlles hmmm avancade you going to realse a video. All might for my own fan club.. Never liked you. to much in local.
I have no desire to be liked.
Second, you hate me because i switched sides.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 19/01/2005 18:33:36
Clicky
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 19/01/2005 18:31:42 while on the note of FIX...a few of us wondered down there for a 'day trip' due to boredom in the north. within 10 mins of being down there i had already recieved a mail of smack. this was not suprising however, i had predicted it.
linked up with some rus..went to 9cg..killed stuff..waited for fix to get 2-1 odds + they then sat outside station, we warp in, they die. we win. gf. the only people smacking in local were actually the fix. they were promptly silenced after the fight however.
CA were smack talkers, but i understand why, in an alliance of what was their size, its impossible to keep tabs on all of them, with FIX however, it is litterally an alliance of smack talkers. this was experienced again today in the local of 9cg. in the past i have spoken to quite a few FIX reps to ask them to put their people in line, if they have bothered to attempt this, they have failed. This is sad as forum smackage i see no problem with, forums are there to talk in and there will be 'arguments' however ingame smack is retarded and just generally pathetic. I call on FIX again to get their players into line.
Anyway..this was about PBL originally, get back to that!
Last post i will make, i want to salvage something from my new years resolution
Max what are you talking about? you came down during a regular day, some ppl make alot of real money then. ;) I never saw anny smack in local. I did chatt some whit you. But no smack.......... You sat at a ss and you where 2 bs on ech bs we had if not even 3. And we did take the fight. And it was fun. =)..
but now you are talking just bull**** m8t. Plz keep it straight insteed of that. I did not see anny smack in local to you.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 19/01/2005 18:31:42 while on the note of FIX...a few of us wondered down there for a 'day trip' due to boredom in the north. within 10 mins of being down there i had already recieved a mail of smack. this was not suprising however, i had predicted it.
linked up with some rus..went to 9cg..killed stuff..waited for fix to get 2-1 odds + they then sat outside station, we warp in, they die. we win. gf. the only people smacking in local were actually the fix. they were promptly silenced after the fight however.
CA were smack talkers, but i understand why, in an alliance of what was their size, its impossible to keep tabs on all of them, with FIX however, it is litterally an alliance of smack talkers. this was experienced again today in the local of 9cg. in the past i have spoken to quite a few FIX reps to ask them to put their people in line, if they have bothered to attempt this, they have failed. This is sad as forum smackage i see no problem with, forums are there to talk in and there will be 'arguments' however ingame smack is retarded and just generally pathetic. I call on FIX again to get their players into line.
Anyway..this was about PBL originally, get back to that!
Last post i will make, i want to salvage something from my new years resolution
Max what are you talking about? you came down during a regular day, some ppl make alot of real money then. ;) I never saw anny smack in local. I did chatt some whit you. But no smack.......... You sat at a ss and you where 2 bs on ech bs we had if not even 3. And we did take the fight. And it was fun. =)..
but now you are talking just bull**** m8t. Plz keep it straight insteed of that. I did not see anny smack in local to you.
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tastinn
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: tastinn on 19/01/2005 18:40:36
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Channel ID: (('convo', ((22761000112L, 23301000108L), (144834895, 779014994, 1963166628), (235080100, 1994002425, None))),) Channel Name: Terracian SHcorp Conversation Listener: tastinn Session started: 2005.01.19 17:59:49 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2005.01.19 17:59:52 ] tastinn > yes? [ 2005.01.19 17:59:56 ] Terracian SHcorp > HEllo.. [ 2005.01.19 18:00:05 ] tastinn > hello [ 2005.01.19 18:00:09 ] Terracian SHcorp > If you dont stop you will be changed to KOS.. [ 2005.01.19 18:00:22 ] Terracian SHcorp > you MUST HAVE A PASS.. [ 2005.01.19 18:00:30 ] tastinn > what? [ 2005.01.19 18:00:43 ] Terracian SHcorp > you r part of PBL. [ 2005.01.19 18:00:48 ] Terracian SHcorp > you NEED A PASS>. [ 2005.01.19 18:01:01 ] Terracian SHcorp > IF YOU GO FORWARD YOU WILL BE KOS [ 2005.01.19 18:01:07 ] Terracian SHcorp > YOU MUST STOP.. [ 2005.01.19 18:01:20 ] tastinn > i'm a period basis resident [ 2005.01.19 18:01:25 ] tastinn > and my corp has a pass [ 2005.01.19 18:01:30 ] Terracian SHcorp > I AM NOT KIDDING>>> [ 2005.01.19 18:01:32 ] tastinn > talk to my ceo [ 2005.01.19 18:01:37 ] Terracian SHcorp > RETURN HERE TO GET YOU A PAS>> [ 2005.01.19 18:01:49 ] Terracian SHcorp > RUNNING A FA BLOCK WILL MAKE YOU KOS.. [ 2005.01.19 18:02:02 ] Terracian SHcorp > so you make the choice.;. [ 2005.01.19 18:02:02 ] tastinn > why do i need to get a pass? [ 2005.01.19 18:02:11 ] Terracian SHcorp > I will not ask again.. [ 2005.01.19 18:02:20 ] Terracian SHcorp > are you returning.. [ 2005.01.19 18:02:23 ] Terracian SHcorp > ?? [ 2005.01.19 18:02:27 ] tastinn > nope i am stopping [ 2005.01.19 18:02:30 ] Terracian SHcorp > or am i setting you to KOS.. [ 2005.01.19 18:02:44 ] Terracian SHcorp > come back to Z3V.. [ 2005.01.19 18:03:09 ] tastinn > how can i trust you? [ 2005.01.19 18:03:21 ] Terracian SHcorp > I AM FA.. and i am a CEO of SHBH [ 2005.01.19 18:04:09 ] Terracian SHcorp > WE COME TO HELP PBL... [ 2005.01.19 18:04:17 ] Terracian SHcorp > so you can trust me.,. [ 2005.01.19 18:04:27 ] tastinn > how can i get a pass? [ 2005.01.19 18:04:54 ] Terracian SHcorp > go to : bad buba talk chan [ 2005.01.19 18:05:25 ] tastinn > i cant join [ 2005.01.19 18:05:29 ] Terracian SHcorp > he is [ 2005.01.19 18:05:34 ] Terracian SHcorp > type in..... [ 2005.01.19 18:05:52 ] Terracian SHcorp > bad buba talk [ 2005.01.19 18:06:09 ] tastinn > You may own at most 10 channels. [ 2005.01.19 18:06:09 ] Terracian SHcorp > he is there waiting .... [ 2005.01.19 18:06:20 ] Terracian SHcorp > not own.. [ 2005.01.19 18:06:24 ] Terracian SHcorp > click new..... [ 2005.01.19 18:06:31 ] Terracian SHcorp > then type in bad buba talk [ 2005.01.19 18:07:32 ] Terracian SHcorp > 1 sec.. [ 2005.01.19 18:07:37 ] Terracian SHcorp > hes convooing you.. [ 2005.01.19 18:07:38 ] tastinn > ? [ 2005.01.19 18:07:41 ] tastinn > ok [ 2005.01.19 18:09:11 ] Terracian SHcorp > please come to Z3V.. [ 2005.01.19 18:09:16 ] Terracian SHcorp > do not go forward... [ 2005.01.19 18:09:29 ] Terracian SHcorp > he is busy atm .. you will have to hold.. [ 2005.01.19 18:09:46 ] tastinn > i am holding [ 2005.01.19 18:10:16 ] Terracian SHcorp > my guys were saying you were turning around.... [ 2005.01.19 18:10:30 ] tastinn > ? [ 2005.01.19 18:11:34 ] Terracian SHcorp > said you were still going south... [ 2005.01.19 18:11:39 ] tastinn > ? [ 2005.01.19 18:11:41 ] tastinn > what? [ 2005.01.19 18:11:45 ] Terracian SHcorp > no matter... [ 2005.01.19 18:11:53 ] Terracian SHcorp > just hold position..
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:41:00 -
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gah ieven checked my logg of the local chatt. Uhmm no smack...........
Hey if we had smacked you, i would not lie about it........
You just droped very low on my book.
To the rest of the rus guys tehre. Was a good fight. Sadly we where way to few to stand a chance =) cu when you logg back
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Channel ID: (('convo', ((22761000112L, 23301000108L), (144834895, 779014994, 1963166628), (235080100, 1994002425, None))),) Channel Name: Terracian SHcorp Conversation Listener: tastinn Session started: 2005.01.19 18:19:44 ---------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2005.01.19 18:19:48 ] Terracian SHcorp > Hello [ 2005.01.19 18:19:49 ] tastinn > what???? [ 2005.01.19 18:20:00 ] Terracian SHcorp > buba said you were giving him a hard time now...?? [ 2005.01.19 18:20:10 ] tastinn > what [ 2005.01.19 18:20:17 ] tastinn > he hasn't convod me [ 2005.01.19 18:20:19 ] Terracian SHcorp > did you get a pass?? [ 2005.01.19 18:20:24 ] Terracian SHcorp > Humm... [ 2005.01.19 18:20:28 ] Terracian SHcorp > 1 sec.. [ 2005.01.19 18:21:00 ] Terracian SHcorp > Oh your CEO contacted him... [ 2005.01.19 18:21:06 ] Terracian SHcorp > tell him to convo me... [ 2005.01.19 18:21:07 ] tastinn > nad? [ 2005.01.19 18:21:09 ] tastinn > and? [ 2005.01.19 18:21:18 ] Terracian SHcorp > ahd i need to speak with him... [ 2005.01.19 18:21:35 ] tastinn > so it costs 5 mill to pass? [ 2005.01.19 18:21:51 ] Terracian SHcorp > yes... for 24hrs. [ 2005.01.19 18:22:02 ] Terracian SHcorp > have your CEO convo me now please.. [ 2005.01.19 18:22:15 ] tastinn > and how does that help bpl ppl? [ 2005.01.19 18:22:30 ] tastinn > that is just plain pirating [ 2005.01.19 18:22:55 ] Terracian SHcorp > who is your CEO..?? [ 2005.01.19 18:23:00 ] Terracian SHcorp > ILL contact him.. [ 2005.01.19 18:23:10 ] Terracian SHcorp > im not gonna argue.... [ 2005.01.19 18:23:18 ] Terracian SHcorp > ill just set you to KOS.. [ 2005.01.19 18:23:30 ] tastinn > yeah and go **** yourself to
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tastinn
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:42:00 -
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well this is what i call pirating and this is a FA member I am pbl by the way _______________________ The Collective |
S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.19 18:46:00 -
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Quote: CA were smack talkers, but i understand why, in an alliance of what was their size, its impossible to keep tabs on all of them, with FIX however, it is litterally an alliance of smack talkers. this was experienced again today in the local of 9cg. in the past i have spoken to quite a few FIX reps to ask them to put their people in line, if they have bothered to attempt this, they have failed. This is sad as forum smackage i see no problem with, forums are there to talk in and there will be 'arguments' however ingame smack is retarded and just generally pathetic. I call on FIX again to get their players into line.
MAX, I think you probably get less of a fair shake on this. People know you from past experience and you are FAR more likely to get smacked than anyone else. It's a credit to the bang-up job you did making a "bad guy" character. Take it as a compliment, don't take it personally. You wanted to be "hated" and you are. FWIW the chances of you getting smacked in local are far less if you aren't in FIX territory.
So ShinRa is calling FIX week for having a large military fleet ready to engage invaders? That doesn't make sense to me, tbh. If we flew 30 ships 25 jumps to attack some miners I would understand what you were saying, but... we didn't. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 19/01/2005 19:15:16 mindles, to clear the smackage up, i was basing it on what happened when i came down in kr0m, also on this:
[ 2005.01.19 16:26:51 ] USN CVN73 > u guys r weak :) [ 2005.01.19 16:26:58 ] USN CVN73 > hah [ 2005.01.19 16:27:04 ] USN CVN73 > 10 on one u cant kill me [ 2005.01.19 16:27:26 ] JaegerX > invite [ 2005.01.19 16:27:27 ] Legioner > U are very cool [ 2005.01.19 16:27:30 ] MAXSuicide > omfg...can u plz leave smack for once? [ 2005.01.19 16:27:37 ] Wolfster > go kill Stain or summat [ 2005.01.19 16:27:54 ] USN CVN73 > pathetic pks ;) i seen better nuubs kill faster than u :) [ 2005.01.19 16:28:03 ] Legioner > U R the Coolest guy [ 2005.01.19 16:28:05 ] MAXSuicide > i remember killing u in a2 when i was in r0m usn...k [ 2005.01.19 16:28:11 ] MAXSuicide > kr0m* [ 2005.01.19 16:28:14 ] USN CVN73 > :) [ 2005.01.19 16:28:21 ] Wolfster > isn't about the frag it's all about the smack [ 2005.01.19 16:28:23 ] USN CVN73 > <--- # one Gimp :) [ 2005.01.19 16:28:28 ] MAXSuicide > wernt so*****y then were u? [ 2005.01.19 16:28:49 ] MAXSuicide > just leave smack out of the game plz, feel free to flame on forums etc but ingame its pathetic. [ 2005.01.19 16:28:51 ] USN CVN73 > i dont mind losing ships max :) cause i got industrial might :) [ 2005.01.19 16:29:02 ] MAXSuicide > im happy for you. [ 2005.01.19 16:29:07 ] JaegerX > bla bla bla [ 2005.01.19 16:29:11 ] Wolfster > /emote is ex-FragM elite smacker [ 2005.01.19 16:31:03 ] USN CVN73 > <--- last time i saw... this is 9cg if u dont want smack then um goto another system :) [ 2005.01.19 16:31:13 ] MAXSuicide > this isnt ur system, its ccp [ 2005.01.19 16:31:24 ] USN CVN73 > <--- i dont think ur ccp :) [ 2005.01.19 16:31:38 ] USN CVN73 > ur just like me a paying player [ 2005.01.19 16:31:39 ] MAXSuicide > i dont c u killing us right now anyway ? but lets not go down that road of convosation eh [ 2005.01.19 16:31:43 ] Wolfster > /emote lives next door to CCP and they allowed me to smack here [ 2005.01.19 16:32:23 ] Fighter Killer > õ©ýÓ ÝÕ ±=ÕÙ Ú [ 2005.01.19 16:32:30 ] RILLER > sorry [ 2005.01.19 16:32:36 ] Wolfster > syngjum saman s÷ngva um j¾lin [ 2005.01.19 16:32:36 ] JaegerX > ok same here [ 2005.01.19 16:32:45 ] Fighter Killer > lol [ 2005.01.19 16:36:02 ] Wolfster > Fair pardux, ¦· sem ert Ý space. Helgist ¦itt mission, tilkomi ¦inn space svo Ý space sem Ý missioni. Gef oss isk Ý dag [ 2005.01.19 16:37:28 ] Sibiest > elgist ¦itt mission, tilkomi ¦inn space svo Ý space sem Ý missioni. Gef oss isk Ý dag [ 2005.01.19 16:37:49 ] Mindlles > õr det norska? [ 2005.01.19 16:37:56 ] Mindlles > Lr finska? [ 2005.01.19 16:37:58 ] Wolfster > nei Ýslenska [ 2005.01.19 16:38:08 ] Mindlles > o fan [ 2005.01.19 16:38:08 ] Wolfster > Thule BEZT Ý heimi [ 2005.01.19 16:38:31 ] Aarthorn > ISKI DONTSKA KNOWSKI WHATSKA YOYRSKI SAYINGSKI [ 2005.01.19 16:38:43 ] Wolfster > so? [ 2005.01.19 16:38:51 ] Wolfster > VODKA ICE [ 2005.01.19 16:39:30 ] MAXSuicide > hello mindles [ 2005.01.19 16:39:58 ] Mindlles > lo [ 2005.01.19 16:40:14 ] MAXSuicide > i saw ur nice forum post btw :) [ 2005.01.19 16:40:24 ] Mindlles > only post nice things [ 2005.01.19 16:40:52 ] MAXSuicide > seen my reply? [ 2005.01.19 16:41:06 ] Mindlles > yeah and you are lying ;) hahahahahah [ 2005.01.19 16:41:11 ] MAXSuicide > how so ? [ 2005.01.19 16:41:20 ] Mindlles > i wasent in that fight so it cant be thrue [ 2005.01.19 16:41:26 ] MAXSuicide > wernt u [ 2005.01.19 16:41:32 ] MAXSuicide > /emote goes and looks at the movie he made [ 2005.01.19 16:41:51 ] USN CVN73 > hehe [ 2005.01.19 16:41:58 ] MAXSuicide > which u can find at www.kr0m.com [ 2005.01.19 16:41:58 ] Mindlles > do so. =) [ 2005.01.19 16:42:01 ] MAXSuicide > video 2 [ 2005.01.19 16:42:06 ] MAXSuicide > u were in scorp wernt u? [ 2005.01.19 16:42:16 ] MAXSuicide > i remember u being there [ 2005.01.19 16:42:20 ] Mindlles > ohh i havent flying a scorp for ages [ 2005.01.19 16:42:52 ] Mindlles > and krom have never killed me [ 2005.01.19 16:43:08 ] MAXSuicide > might not have killed u...but u were there [ 2005.01.19 16:43:55 ] MAXSuicide > u r in it btw too usn..(on the movie) [ 2005.01.19 16:44:40 ] USN CVN73 > yes :) [ 2005.01.19 16:44:58 ] USN CVN73 > and im a proud pilot that rather lose a ship than log off like a homo [ 2005.01.19 16:45:14 ] JaegerX > Homos do That? [ 2005.01.19 16:45:17 ] MAXSuicide > yea, logging off is bad [ 2005.01.19 16:45:19 ] USN CVN73 > :) [ 2005.01.19 16:45:30 ] MAXSuicide > from what u just said i would think ur pointing that at me [ 2005.01.19 16:45:41 ] Wolfster > umm.. yes [ 2005.01.19 16:45:44 ] MAXSuicide > why would u be implying im a log off user? [ 2005.01.19 16:45:46 ] USN CVN73 > :)
note:10v1 = wrong, 8 wcstabs also fitted doesnt mean we are weak ;) also note: me attempting to stop the tide of smack. the good citizen that i am
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:16:00 -
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logs are teh lame
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:24:00 -
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Can anyone from SHINRA tell me if I can continue my work as PBL roid sniffer officer of the local law ??
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Zloba
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:27:00 -
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cfs usually don't smack
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:30:00 -
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hmm he was talking to you. And he said, Nice to cu your 10 lasers on me. And you replayd? In a nice way i belive?.
That i saw looked as you where jk around.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:40:00 -
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There were an awful lot of smileys in that log for you to have taken it personally MAX. I know USN and he was probably just screwing with you. You were, after all, in enemy territory and attacking alongside RUS folks who are also known enemies (don't you guys have enough to do in your own space? ).
And LOL @ cfs doesn't smack... there's so many things about that post that are... I... you've done it lol, I simply can't reply to that. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Zloba
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:47:00 -
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We tried to sit at home. Hunted npc's @ complexes, and so on. Bored after two days. Nothing personal, but you are the nearest alliance which we don't have NAP with.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zloba We tried to sit at home. Hunted npc's @ complexes, and so on. Bored after two days. Nothing personal, but you are the nearest alliance which we don't have NAP with.
No worries, wasn't complaining about you guys coming around again. I just thought you guys were doing some serious fighting up in your territory. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
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Zloba
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Posted - 2005.01.19 19:52:00 -
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No enemyes. Mby some random doodz, but our miners can take care about them. Nothing to do for pvp'ers.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.01.19 20:24:00 -
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it was nice of RUS to 'adpot' some of us so to speak, for the day.
anyhow, when r ur guys gonna post their deaths on ur shiny killboard ive been looking at the last few days? :)
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.01.19 20:51:00 -
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Jeez I dont think I have seen so much Crap and Bull in one topic in a long time. SHINRA are now the Saviours of PBL!
Well tell you what why don't shinra just take the stations give them to the pbl corps then go away and leave PBL to do what it wants. Or does this not fit in with shinras plans?
So far you have said stuff like FA masters getting tax FA stations ect, give the pbl corps the two stations and leave them alone, stop posting all this saviour crap as we all know at this point its bull.
OFC doing what I just suggested would go part of the way to show everyone that maybe you are trying to be the Saviours of poor PBL. But until you hand the two stations over to PBL and pull out and leave them alone no one is going to buy it.
Shinra again are on there anti FA quest ofc they are such great pvpers and pilots that they cant just fly up into Fountain and wtfomgbbqfishsticks the FA fleet.
So in return they pick on the weakest alliance in the whole game, jeez these guys are not even capable of getting together to make a offical alliance and you guys are stomping them.
" Stay Frosty "
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2005.01.19 21:12:00 -
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they dont make an official alliance because the founders/most of the members are actually official memebrs of FA... |
Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.19 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: OMGWTFHAX they dont make an official alliance because the founders/most of the members are actually official memebrs of FA...
Get your facts straight, OMGWTFIAMALTBOY. There are FA-applicant corps as members of PBL, but there are NO full Fountain Alliance member corporations having dual membership with PBL.
<-- See, main character. Note the corporation name, which is a founding member of the PBL. Note also that GLT have not in the past, are not now and do not forsee applying for membership with the Fountain Alliance. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.19 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks Jeez I dont think I have seen so much Crap and Bull in one topic in a long time. SHINRA are now the Saviours of PBL!
Well tell you what why don't shinra just take the stations give them to the pbl corps then go away and leave PBL to do what it wants. Or does this not fit in with shinras plans?
So far you have said stuff like FA masters getting tax FA stations ect, give the pbl corps the two stations and leave them alone, stop posting all this saviour crap as we all know at this point its bull.
OFC doing what I just suggested would go part of the way to show everyone that maybe you are trying to be the Saviours of poor PBL. But until you hand the two stations over to PBL and pull out and leave them alone no one is going to buy it.
Shinra again are on there anti FA quest ofc they are such great pvpers and pilots that they cant just fly up into Fountain and wtfomgbbqfishsticks the FA fleet.
So in return they pick on the weakest alliance in the whole game, jeez these guys are not even capable of getting together to make a offical alliance and you guys are stomping them.
I'm confident we can take on any alliance, even your precious FIX. We can blob too you know. Even as single corp
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Moses Kiptanui
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Posted - 2005.01.19 22:21:00 -
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to be honest i dont see why shinra would have to explain why they've attacked/taken pb.. whatever.. if they're bad for pb, then the residents should do something about it really.
in all my time in fix i've never seen any fix pilot smack at all, i don't really expect anyone to believe me (being in fix myself) but i hope some people take my word on it
anyhow, in my opinion this just ends up making things a little more interesting for us, which i always welcome
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Rehen
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Posted - 2005.01.19 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Rehen on 19/01/2005 22:51:35 Plain and simply FIX have piolets cant help but Smack Talk in local, i ahve seen it almost every time i have meet them in battle, you always get 1 or 2 of there guys talking trash.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.19 23:07:00 -
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Of course... to anyone who finds the words of FIX pilots in local offensive feel free to minimize local OR ignore the pilots.
FWIW all of the gangs I've been involved with have had commands issued for pilots not to say anything at all in local and all of the pilots have obliged.
TBH it's probably best just for everyone to leave local quiet, because nowadays people get mad if you say "gf" even (seems that some people see it as an insult if you just destroyed their ship ). ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
DeMundus
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Posted - 2005.01.19 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:21:11 Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:20:34 Here is a link to the visual I promised 100 + vs. 30
enjoy!
EDIT: Green: ShinRa, Red: PBL, FA etc.
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Hoolk
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Posted - 2005.01.19 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: DeMundus Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:21:11 Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:20:34 Here is a link to the visual I promised 100 + vs. 30
enjoy!
EDIT: Green: ShinRa, Red: PBL, FA etc.
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Hquesinovium
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Posted - 2005.01.19 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Hquesinovium on 19/01/2005 23:48:27
Originally by: S3VYN Edited by: S3VYN on 19/01/2005 04:35:51 Thanks for the replies guys...
Dunno what I would do if it weren't for ShinRa and their superhuman ability to see every thread and post to it.
I'm surprised it took you guys so long to post.
FWIW - Any SE representative should feel free to debunk the statements made by your alliance member above.
It is nice to know that I have your attention, you guys always seem to address me directly.
LoL, I officially Debunk the statements made. They were made by me, for me, without any knowledge of SE leadership. This statement does not reflect SGE or SE. This is a pure example of being a forum w***3. This is only a test.
Quote: I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is the victory over self.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.01.20 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: corporal hicks Jeez I dont think I have seen so much Crap and Bull in one topic in a long time. SHINRA are now the Saviours of PBL!
Well tell you what why don't shinra just take the stations give them to the pbl corps then go away and leave PBL to do what it wants. Or does this not fit in with shinras plans?
So far you have said stuff like FA masters getting tax FA stations ect, give the pbl corps the two stations and leave them alone, stop posting all this saviour crap as we all know at this point its bull.
OFC doing what I just suggested would go part of the way to show everyone that maybe you are trying to be the Saviours of poor PBL. But until you hand the two stations over to PBL and pull out and leave them alone no one is going to buy it.
Shinra again are on there anti FA quest ofc they are such great pvpers and pilots that they cant just fly up into Fountain and wtfomgbbqfishsticks the FA fleet.
So in return they pick on the weakest alliance in the whole game, jeez these guys are not even capable of getting together to make a offical alliance and you guys are stomping them.
I'm confident we can take on any alliance, even your precious FIX. We can blob too you know. Even as single corp
I'm Confident you can't read! where did I say anything about you taking on FIX? I mearly pointed out that your points made about been saviours of Period basis is bull. Your not there to be nice guys and lift the stations from FA control for the good of PBL residents your there just to make isk from them also. Hypocrits is best word i can come up with.
" Stay Frosty "
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.20 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN
Quote: I aint in Shinra myself, i'm not down south - far from it infact just to let ya know.
Then how do you propose that your information is somehow more valid than that of someone who lives there and spends ALL of their time mixed up in negotiations and politics regarding that area? If you are, by your own admission, not involved with the south and have no interests there I don't see what you are basing your posts on... if it's second-hand information please state it as such rather than stating it as if it were fact.
The only horse I have in this race is ShinRa's accusations of FIX and FIX's accusations of ShinRa, both seem to revolve around tactics so I'm going to take a second and point some things out.
So er.. let me get this straight, by your own admission, only people with a legitmate stake in whats going on have a right to post on such matters. Ok i'll remember that next time one of you lot post on our buisness.
Regarding second hand information. Ok i am working on facts, facts that go like this.
If i open my map and check who the TPAR station belongs too, it will say Shinra corp. Second hand information? Id be an idiot if i said some of my opinion wasn't based on it. But yea there are other things that make me draw conclusions.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.20 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: corporal hicks Jeez I dont think I have seen so much Crap and Bull in one topic in a long time. SHINRA are now the Saviours of PBL!
Well tell you what why don't shinra just take the stations give them to the pbl corps then go away and leave PBL to do what it wants. Or does this not fit in with shinras plans?
So far you have said stuff like FA masters getting tax FA stations ect, give the pbl corps the two stations and leave them alone, stop posting all this saviour crap as we all know at this point its bull.
OFC doing what I just suggested would go part of the way to show everyone that maybe you are trying to be the Saviours of poor PBL. But until you hand the two stations over to PBL and pull out and leave them alone no one is going to buy it.
Shinra again are on there anti FA quest ofc they are such great pvpers and pilots that they cant just fly up into Fountain and wtfomgbbqfishsticks the FA fleet.
So in return they pick on the weakest alliance in the whole game, jeez these guys are not even capable of getting together to make a offical alliance and you guys are stomping them.
I'm confident we can take on any alliance, even your precious FIX. We can blob too you know. Even as single corp
I'm Confident you can't read! where did I say anything about you taking on FIX? I mearly pointed out that your points made about been saviours of Period basis is bull. Your not there to be nice guys and lift the stations from FA control for the good of PBL residents your there just to make isk from them also. Hypocrits is best word i can come up with.
You know nothing about our intentions. ALl you can do is speculate and talk ****.
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Moses Kiptanui
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Posted - 2005.01.20 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
ALl you can do is speculate and talk ****.
Isn't that what these forums are all about? a casual observer could not be criticised for thinking so, because i've heard a hell of alot of crap and lies going about..
this is not directed at any perticular person btw.. but sometimes the eve comminity really ****es me off.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.20 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona So er.. let me get this straight, by your own admission, only people with a legitmate stake in whats going on have a right to post on such matters. Ok i'll remember that next time one of you lot post on our buisness.
Regarding second hand information. Ok i am working on facts, facts that go like this.
If i open my map and check who the TPAR station belongs too, it will say Shinra corp. Second hand information? Id be an idiot if i said some of my opinion wasn't based on it. But yea there are other things that make me draw conclusions.
By all means, feel free if I EVER post anything as fact having to do with a situation you are involved in and I am not to go ahead and call me on it.
As far as checking the map, are you suggesting that your contribution to this post was "yep, I can verify ShinRa owns the station" or was it something more along the lines of...
Originally by: Reverend Necrona Listen. 1 corporation has took on 1 alliance and pacified the region of FA resistance, they've shown FA's true colours and more to the point shown good will to the corps that have stopped fighting them. That's what ShinRa has accomplished.. exactly. Only 3 corps remain hostile i believe. Let's see how long that lasts.
The simple fact you asked the question shows your lack of understanding, that or you're being purposefully ignorant in a vain attempt to slander ShinRa's reputation and ability. Probably a bit of both i would imagine.
and...
Originally by: Reverend Necrona I think people may flame you because although you're pashionate about the game (which is out right commendable, always nice to see that, show's that the game is doing what it's supposed too) you're not too clued up (as little offense meant as possible). You've been on here recently claiming things that have recently turned out to be false (I.E Shinra's inability to hold onto a goal).
I mean seriously. Had you come to this thread and said, "Yeah, I checked my map and ShinRa owns a station, nj and gl ShinRa" I doubt anyone would have taken issue. As it is, you incenuated argument by taking shots at Mrissa, stating your editorial input as fact, etc.
I wouldn't be replying, but I'm bored... sorry, you got all my attention on this one. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Walkin
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Posted - 2005.01.20 01:42:00 -
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lemmie get this straight: If i pat shinra on the head and say "good doggy", give FA the bird, bend over for SE, pay moo to go away... i can mine veld again in a2?
If thats the case its time to trade my fleet for mining barges....
P.S Group HUG
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.20 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Walkin lemmie get this straight: If i pat shinra on the head and say "good doggy", give FA the bird, bend over for SE, pay moo to go away... i can mine veld again in a2?
If thats the case its time to trade my fleet for mining barges....
P.S Group HUG
You have a FLEET?
I just thought you had payed the devs to make 9CG6 30times larger and more red than the other stars!
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Walkin
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:13:00 -
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it only takes one billionaire veld sucker to fund a fleet, i prefer mining lasers to missles...
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Betty Boom
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lo3d3R Can anyone from SHINRA tell me if I can continue my work as PBL roid sniffer officer of the local law ??
Dont worry, the local organizions of PBL is not on discussion. Maybe some things should be aloud, but we doesnt set you KOS, if you doesnt share your opininon.
Originally by: tastinn well this is what i call pirating and this is a FA member I am pbl by the way
Indeed. If you call it pass or bride, is simply an other word for the same thing. PBL is not FA terretory.
Explanation :
PBL is the administration of Period Base. And a member of PBL has only to deal with PBL. Only the PBL administration has the right to collect money from their members. This is in any form of alliance, administration etc the same. If a FA member is threaten PBL members or neutrals to pay him money, it is infact a act of piracy. Only a central organisation can verify that this is a 'lawful' act.
In fact, we want an change of the agenda of FA about PB
ShinRa is not a politic roleplay corp that try to win allies or friends with utopical trash-smack-talk on the forums.
We are a military corp with a long history in alliance politic. Using our agenda has always the option for military operations. And to corparal hicks, taking the station and give it to a PBL corp and leave the area will not change the agenda of the FA in PB. The FA will be back, take the station and the old mismanagment goes on.
This was mostly OOC, so please lets go back on your duties and smack a bit. But this goes all out of topic anyway...
Enough (political) talking. Death to all (without a NAP):)
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:38:00 -
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I think its closer to :
Enoff discushin, deff to all!
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Mystera
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Posted - 2005.01.20 03:57:00 -
[153]
Originally by: DeMundus Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:21:11 Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:20:34 Here is a link to the visual I promised 100 + vs. 30
enjoy!
EDIT: Green: ShinRa, Red: PBL, FA etc.
Cool, thanks for sharing the visuals!
But where's the 100 vs 30 bit? Your overview shows you out number us in the engagement you captured, not the other way around.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.20 04:04:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Betty Boom
Originally by: Lo3d3R Can anyone from SHINRA tell me if I can continue my work as PBL roid sniffer officer of the local law ??
Dont worry, the local organizions of PBL is not on discussion. Maybe some things should be aloud, but we doesnt set you KOS, if you doesnt share your opininon.
Originally by: tastinn well this is what i call pirating and this is a FA member I am pbl by the way
Indeed. If you call it pass or bride, is simply an other word for the same thing. PBL is not FA terretory.
Explanation :
PBL is the administration of Period Base. And a member of PBL has only to deal with PBL. Only the PBL administration has the right to collect money from their members. This is in any form of alliance, administration etc the same. If a FA member is threaten PBL members or neutrals to pay him money, it is infact a act of piracy. Only a central organisation can verify that this is a 'lawful' act.
In fact, we want an change of the agenda of FA about PB
ShinRa is not a politic roleplay corp that try to win allies or friends with utopical trash-smack-talk on the forums.
We are a military corp with a long history in alliance politic. Using our agenda has always the option for military operations. And to corparal hicks, taking the station and give it to a PBL corp and leave the area will not change the agenda of the FA in PB. The FA will be back, take the station and the old mismanagment goes on.
This was mostly OOC, so please lets go back on your duties and smack a bit. But this goes all out of topic anyway...
Enough (political) talking. Death to all (without a NAP):)
So are you saying that you guys are there to free PBL by evicting a passive landlord and installing an overbearing military state? Or are you saying you're gonna leave and give PBL the stations (the right thing to do according to what you're saying)?
I'm really trying to understand, but ... it doesn't make sense to me. And tbh, I'm sure if I'm confused I'm not the only one. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.20 04:08:00 -
[155]
Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Betty Boom
Originally by: Lo3d3R Can anyone from SHINRA tell me if I can continue my work as PBL roid sniffer officer of the local law ??
Dont worry, the local organizions of PBL is not on discussion. Maybe some things should be aloud, but we doesnt set you KOS, if you doesnt share your opininon.
Originally by: tastinn well this is what i call pirating and this is a FA member I am pbl by the way
Indeed. If you call it pass or bride, is simply an other word for the same thing. PBL is not FA terretory.
Explanation :
PBL is the administration of Period Base. And a member of PBL has only to deal with PBL. Only the PBL administration has the right to collect money from their members. This is in any form of alliance, administration etc the same. If a FA member is threaten PBL members or neutrals to pay him money, it is infact a act of piracy. Only a central organisation can verify that this is a 'lawful' act.
In fact, we want an change of the agenda of FA about PB
ShinRa is not a politic roleplay corp that try to win allies or friends with utopical trash-smack-talk on the forums.
We are a military corp with a long history in alliance politic. Using our agenda has always the option for military operations. And to corparal hicks, taking the station and give it to a PBL corp and leave the area will not change the agenda of the FA in PB. The FA will be back, take the station and the old mismanagment goes on.
This was mostly OOC, so please lets go back on your duties and smack a bit. But this goes all out of topic anyway...
Enough (political) talking. Death to all (without a NAP):)
So are you saying that you guys are there to free PBL by evicting a passive landlord and installing an overbearing military state? Or are you saying you're gonna leave and give PBL the stations (the right thing to do according to what you're saying)?
I'm really trying to understand, but ... it doesn't make sense to me. And tbh, I'm sure if I'm confused I'm not the only one.
Actually, our motives and plans are own. But, to give you a hint, we need to be assured that FA or any of their stooges have any contol of it.
A Jazz guy told all of us in local that he didnt neccessarily agree that BIG should have the station but that he thought they deserved it. Needless to say, that was the icing on the cake for a few more of the locals. Draw you own conclusions to that.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.20 04:53:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Mystera
Originally by: DeMundus Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:21:11 Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:20:34 Here is a link to the visual I promised 100 + vs. 30
enjoy!
EDIT: Green: ShinRa, Red: PBL, FA etc.
Cool, thanks for sharing the visuals!
But where's the 100 vs 30 bit? Your overview shows you out number us in the engagement you captured, not the other way around.
I bet he means you have to start counting. I wasnt there, but i see many, many ships warping out.
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Mystera
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Posted - 2005.01.20 05:02:00 -
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not saying for a moment there weren't 100 ships in the system that weren't yours, just watching the avi through it looks like you timed that attack perfectly as a portion of the PBL/FA fleet warped off as you arrived giving you much better odds in terms of ship numbers than the title implied. You still kicked our butts, no denying that
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Bazman
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Posted - 2005.01.20 05:45:00 -
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We didn't lose anything in that particular engagement, but had all those ships decided to stop and engage, we'd have taken losses through sheer numbers alone, was quite amusing at the time to see them all warp off thou :D
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.01.20 06:00:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Betty Boom
ShinRa is not a politic roleplay corp that try to win allies or friends with utopical trash-smack-talk on the forums.
We are your friends.
We only want to help you. ------------------------
---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/ |
Farjung
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Posted - 2005.01.20 06:46:00 -
[160]
Whatever Shinra's motivations, got to concede they know what they're doing when it comes to slaughtering people. Thanks for the fights last Sunday and the Sunday before that, pity it turned out the way it did from my point of view, but the stronger side on the day won, so can't really argue with it.
Why do I get a funny feeling npc corp members aren't welcome in Shinra's utopian vision of Period Basis? ;)
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.20 07:10:00 -
[161]
Why do i know NPC corp members arent wished anywhere ?
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.01.20 07:21:00 -
[162]
Originally by: AvanCade Why do i know NPC corp members arent wished anywhere ?
I lived in PB for a month prior to the station falling with no problems. I don't think this could happen anywhere else in 0.0, and I know it can't happen in Period Basis any longer. C'est la vie.
Someone really needs to keep me away from the Taranis |
corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.01.20 09:52:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: corporal hicks Jeez I dont think I have seen so much Crap and Bull in one topic in a long time. SHINRA are now the Saviours of PBL!
Well tell you what why don't shinra just take the stations give them to the pbl corps then go away and leave PBL to do what it wants. Or does this not fit in with shinras plans?
So far you have said stuff like FA masters getting tax FA stations ect, give the pbl corps the two stations and leave them alone, stop posting all this saviour crap as we all know at this point its bull.
OFC doing what I just suggested would go part of the way to show everyone that maybe you are trying to be the Saviours of poor PBL. But until you hand the two stations over to PBL and pull out and leave them alone no one is going to buy it.
Shinra again are on there anti FA quest ofc they are such great pvpers and pilots that they cant just fly up into Fountain and wtfomgbbqfishsticks the FA fleet.
So in return they pick on the weakest alliance in the whole game, jeez these guys are not even capable of getting together to make a offical alliance and you guys are stomping them.
I'm confident we can take on any alliance, even your precious FIX. We can blob too you know. Even as single corp
I'm Confident you can't read! where did I say anything about you taking on FIX? I mearly pointed out that your points made about been saviours of Period basis is bull. Your not there to be nice guys and lift the stations from FA control for the good of PBL residents your there just to make isk from them also. Hypocrits is best word i can come up with.
You know nothing about our intentions. ALl you can do is speculate and talk ****.
Good answer deflects away again without answering the question. I have seen your intentions they were posted by your own guys in a few of the other posts or can you not read either? Shira trying to play political games and manipulate public opinion by trying to make themselves out as the saviours of period basis, I think I would trust the spanish Inquistion more.
There are no Shinra Infidels in Period Basis
" Stay Frosty "
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.01.20 09:52:00 -
[164]
Edited by: Guderian on 20/01/2005 09:53:16
Originally by: Mystera
Originally by: DeMundus Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:21:11 Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:20:34 Here is a link to the visual I promised 100 + vs. 30
enjoy!
EDIT: Green: ShinRa, Red: PBL, FA etc.
Cool, thanks for sharing the visuals!
But where's the 100 vs 30 bit? Your overview shows you out number us in the engagement you captured, not the other way around.
You have to watch the whole movie, not just take one frame and count the ships in that. You guys jumped in around 100+ ships, we warped to the gate and engaged, you warped out 100+ ships minus 3-4 which we managed to kill before you all had warped out. If you had stayed when you jumped in, instead of warping out, we would have had a 100ish vs 30ish fight at the gate. And that would have been awesome .
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |
Albus
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Posted - 2005.01.20 10:20:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Albus on 20/01/2005 10:20:17
Originally by: Mystera
Cool, thanks for sharing the visuals!
But where's the 100 vs 30 bit? Your overview shows you out number us in the engagement you captured, not the other way around.
I'm not sure about 100+, but I count 60-65 enemy ships warping away from the gate during the video. The Shinra fleet had 30. I cannot comment on how many were in local as I was not there. Regardless, if they'd actually decided to fight instead of running it would have been one hell of a battle.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.20 10:22:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Farjung
Originally by: AvanCade Why do i know NPC corp members arent wished anywhere ?
I lived in PB for a month prior to the station falling with no problems. I don't think this could happen anywhere else in 0.0, and I know it can't happen in Period Basis any longer. C'est la vie.
Tbh, I see no reason after we drive the remaining FA vermin out you cant be a resident.
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tastinn
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Posted - 2005.01.20 10:22:00 -
[167]
I'm just wondering if and why not FA hasn't said anything in this topic? _______________________ The Collective |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.20 10:31:00 -
[168]
Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Reverend Necrona So er.. let me get this straight, by your own admission, only people with a legitmate stake in whats going on have a right to post on such matters. Ok i'll remember that next time one of you lot post on our buisness.
Regarding second hand information. Ok i am working on facts, facts that go like this.
If i open my map and check who the TPAR station belongs too, it will say Shinra corp. Second hand information? Id be an idiot if i said some of my opinion wasn't based on it. But yea there are other things that make me draw conclusions.
By all means, feel free if I EVER post anything as fact having to do with a situation you are involved in and I am not to go ahead and call me on it.
As far as checking the map, are you suggesting that your contribution to this post was "yep, I can verify ShinRa owns the station" or was it something more along the lines of...
Originally by: Reverend Necrona Listen. 1 corporation has took on 1 alliance and pacified the region of FA resistance, they've shown FA's true colours and more to the point shown good will to the corps that have stopped fighting them. That's what ShinRa has accomplished.. exactly. Only 3 corps remain hostile i believe. Let's see how long that lasts.
The simple fact you asked the question shows your lack of understanding, that or you're being purposefully ignorant in a vain attempt to slander ShinRa's reputation and ability. Probably a bit of both i would imagine.
and...
Originally by: Reverend Necrona I think people may flame you because although you're pashionate about the game (which is out right commendable, always nice to see that, show's that the game is doing what it's supposed too) you're not too clued up (as little offense meant as possible). You've been on here recently claiming things that have recently turned out to be false (I.E Shinra's inability to hold onto a goal).
I mean seriously. Had you come to this thread and said, "Yeah, I checked my map and ShinRa owns a station, nj and gl ShinRa" I doubt anyone would have taken issue. As it is, you incenuated argument by taking shots at Mrissa, stating your editorial input as fact, etc.
I wouldn't be replying, but I'm bored... sorry, you got all my attention on this one.
I'm truly blessed.
ShinRa's CEO tell's me their going to attack TPAR and try to take it. Ok that's a fact. I'll even try and dig up the irc log of it if you want to be that picky.
ShinRa now hold the TPAR station. Fact.
11 Corporation's have Nap'd Shinra, of the 14 that made up Pure Blind Legion. Fact. Go ask them or shinra for a list of whom.
This is last response your getting from me, you're boredom is rubbing off on your posting. Reverend Necrona |
Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.20 10:33:00 -
[169]
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: corporal hicks Jeez I dont think I have seen so much Crap and Bull in one topic in a long time. SHINRA are now the Saviours of PBL!
Well tell you what why don't shinra just take the stations give them to the pbl corps then go away and leave PBL to do what it wants. Or does this not fit in with shinras plans?
So far you have said stuff like FA masters getting tax FA stations ect, give the pbl corps the two stations and leave them alone, stop posting all this saviour crap as we all know at this point its bull.
OFC doing what I just suggested would go part of the way to show everyone that maybe you are trying to be the Saviours of poor PBL. But until you hand the two stations over to PBL and pull out and leave them alone no one is going to buy it.
Shinra again are on there anti FA quest ofc they are such great pvpers and pilots that they cant just fly up into Fountain and wtfomgbbqfishsticks the FA fleet.
So in return they pick on the weakest alliance in the whole game, jeez these guys are not even capable of getting together to make a offical alliance and you guys are stomping them.
I'm confident we can take on any alliance, even your precious FIX. We can blob too you know. Even as single corp
I'm Confident you can't read! where did I say anything about you taking on FIX? I mearly pointed out that your points made about been saviours of Period basis is bull. Your not there to be nice guys and lift the stations from FA control for the good of PBL residents your there just to make isk from them also. Hypocrits is best word i can come up with.
You know nothing about our intentions. ALl you can do is speculate and talk ****.
Good answer deflects away again without answering the question. I have seen your intentions they were posted by your own guys in a few of the other posts or can you not read either? Shira trying to play political games and manipulate public opinion by trying to make themselves out as the saviours of period basis, I think I would trust the spanish Inquistion more.
There are no Shinra Infidels in Period Basis
Honestly, why do you think I owe you an answer?
You have gotten the best answers I can give.
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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.01.20 10:42:00 -
[170]
Originally by: tastinn I'm just wondering if and why not FA hasn't said anything in this topic?
I guess that would have something to do with them getting owed repeatly in the campaign. My local friends (who have NAP'd) don't even want to fight with them anymore.
Clicky - Last Post
That isnt even a NAP'd corp I dont think...
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.01.20 10:52:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: corporal hicks Jeez I dont think I have seen so much Crap and Bull in one topic in a long time. SHINRA are now the Saviours of PBL!
Well tell you what why don't shinra just take the stations give them to the pbl corps then go away and leave PBL to do what it wants. Or does this not fit in with shinras plans?
So far you have said stuff like FA masters getting tax FA stations ect, give the pbl corps the two stations and leave them alone, stop posting all this saviour crap as we all know at this point its bull.
OFC doing what I just suggested would go part of the way to show everyone that maybe you are trying to be the Saviours of poor PBL. But until you hand the two stations over to PBL and pull out and leave them alone no one is going to buy it.
Shinra again are on there anti FA quest ofc they are such great pvpers and pilots that they cant just fly up into Fountain and wtfomgbbqfishsticks the FA fleet.
So in return they pick on the weakest alliance in the whole game, jeez these guys are not even capable of getting together to make a offical alliance and you guys are stomping them.
I'm confident we can take on any alliance, even your precious FIX. We can blob too you know. Even as single corp
I'm Confident you can't read! where did I say anything about you taking on FIX? I mearly pointed out that your points made about been saviours of Period basis is bull. Your not there to be nice guys and lift the stations from FA control for the good of PBL residents your there just to make isk from them also. Hypocrits is best word i can come up with.
You know nothing about our intentions. ALl you can do is speculate and talk ****.
Good answer deflects away again without answering the question. I have seen your intentions they were posted by your own guys in a few of the other posts or can you not read either? Shira trying to play political games and manipulate public opinion by trying to make themselves out as the saviours of period basis, I think I would trust the spanish Inquistion more.
There are no Shinra Infidels in Period Basis
Honestly, why do you think I owe you an answer?
You have gotten the best answers I can give.
You don't owe me a Answer the origonal statemnet was directed at shinra in genral not at you, but you want to play these miss-information games fair enough i can keep going if you can! point is unless you hand over the dstations to PBL and leave them be then your just doing the same thing as FA has been doing.
its just a matter of time before FA in regards to PB is replaced with Shinra in regards to PB, your doing the exact same thing, only downside to you in control is your pilots are to tempremental and to much of a liability for most due to your past agressions versus who ever you want.
" Stay Frosty "
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.20 11:02:00 -
[172]
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: corporal hicks Jeez I dont think I have seen so much Crap and Bull in one topic in a long time. SHINRA are now the Saviours of PBL!
Well tell you what why don't shinra just take the stations give them to the pbl corps then go away and leave PBL to do what it wants. Or does this not fit in with shinras plans?
So far you have said stuff like FA masters getting tax FA stations ect, give the pbl corps the two stations and leave them alone, stop posting all this saviour crap as we all know at this point its bull.
OFC doing what I just suggested would go part of the way to show everyone that maybe you are trying to be the Saviours of poor PBL. But until you hand the two stations over to PBL and pull out and leave them alone no one is going to buy it.
Shinra again are on there anti FA quest ofc they are such great pvpers and pilots that they cant just fly up into Fountain and wtfomgbbqfishsticks the FA fleet.
So in return they pick on the weakest alliance in the whole game, jeez these guys are not even capable of getting together to make a offical alliance and you guys are stomping them.
I'm confident we can take on any alliance, even your precious FIX. We can blob too you know. Even as single corp
I'm Confident you can't read! where did I say anything about you taking on FIX? I mearly pointed out that your points made about been saviours of Period basis is bull. Your not there to be nice guys and lift the stations from FA control for the good of PBL residents your there just to make isk from them also. Hypocrits is best word i can come up with.
You know nothing about our intentions. ALl you can do is speculate and talk ****.
Good answer deflects away again without answering the question. I have seen your intentions they were posted by your own guys in a few of the other posts or can you not read either? Shira trying to play political games and manipulate public opinion by trying to make themselves out as the saviours of period basis, I think I would trust the spanish Inquistion more.
There are no Shinra Infidels in Period Basis
Honestly, why do you think I owe you an answer?
You have gotten the best answers I can give.
You don't owe me a Answer the origonal statemnet was directed at shinra in genral not at you, but you want to play these miss-information games fair enough i can keep going if you can! point is unless you hand over the dstations to PBL and leave them be then your just doing the same thing as FA has been doing.
its just a matter of time before FA in regards to PB is replaced with Shinra in regards to PB, your doing the exact same thing, only downside to you in control is your pilots are to tempremental and to much of a liability for most due to your past agressions versus who ever you want.
I can tell you we wont tax them 5M just to travel to and from Period Basis like FA do. THere is a start.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.20 11:04:00 -
[173]
Shinra pilots follow orders at all times. There is no such thing as temperamental. If its killed, it was meant to die.
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.01.20 11:51:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Farjung
Originally by: AvanCade Why do i know NPC corp members arent wished anywhere ?
I lived in PB for a month prior to the station falling with no problems. I don't think this could happen anywhere else in 0.0, and I know it can't happen in Period Basis any longer. C'est la vie.
you don't know **** only a month this has happened like 50 times --------------------------
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.01.20 11:54:00 -
[175]
Hi Ben,
I see you are back in BS.I. What happend to the SE membership?
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |
Mad Bomber
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Posted - 2005.01.20 12:46:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Mad Bomber on 20/01/2005 12:46:30
Originally by: Darkrydar A Jazz guy told all of us in local that he didnt neccessarily agree that BIG should have the station but that he thought they deserved it. Needless to say, that was the icing on the cake for a few more of the locals. Draw you own conclusions to that.
Please back-up your statments. If you have a problem, please contact Jazz ingame.
Jazz Military Director
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Datja
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Posted - 2005.01.20 12:56:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Reverend Necrona
11 Corporation's have Nap'd Shinra, of the 14 that made up Pure Blind Legion. Fact. Go ask them or shinra for a list of whom.
how do you know the members of Period base legion. and how can you be sure that the ppl who have NAP'ed with Shinra are members of PBL.
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.20 14:07:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Reverend Necrona 11 Corporation's have Nap'd Shinra, of the 14 that made up Pure Blind Legion. Fact. Go ask them or shinra for a list of whom.
Wrong. NO corporation listed as a member of PBL has agreed to a NAP with Shinra. All corporations who have accepted the Shinra NAP offer were neutral corporations operating in Period Basis with the blessing of PBL. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
Mystera
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Posted - 2005.01.20 14:16:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Mystera on 20/01/2005 14:16:12
Originally by: benwallace
Originally by: Farjung
Originally by: AvanCade Why do i know NPC corp members arent wished anywhere ?
I lived in PB for a month prior to the station falling with no problems. I don't think this could happen anywhere else in 0.0, and I know it can't happen in Period Basis any longer. C'est la vie.
you don't know **** only a month this has happened like 50 times
Ummm, PBL have only existed the past couple of months and Shinra have taken over the space ummm ... once. So wtf are you talking about "like 50 times"
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2005.01.20 15:17:00 -
[180]
If the PBL have really starting signing NAPs at this point, I find that a bit sad. No pride in their alliance, or no trust in FA to come rescue them. Hey Shinra, bring back Orion Federation. "If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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Mystera
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Posted - 2005.01.20 15:29:00 -
[181]
Don't believe everything you hear, Shinra have NAPed a number of the neutrals who were in the region but no PBL corps have announced they're pulling out of PBL or that they have NAPed. We remain in the region fighting against superior forces because we do have pride in our fledgling alliance and despite repeated offers of a NAP from the respected foe, have declined their offer.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.20 16:44:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Reverend Necrona 11 Corporation's have Nap'd Shinra, of the 14 that made up Pure Blind Legion. Fact. Go ask them or shinra for a list of whom.
Ah... now I see your problem...
You don't even know the name of the alliance we're talking about. You must have this situation confused with another situation with which you are familiar. Thanks for trying to contribute to this thread though, it saddens me that another thread out there about this "Pure Blind League" has possibly gone completely unheeded by you while you focused intently on the wrong thread, thus robbing them of your valuable input. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.20 17:05:00 -
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Classic. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.20 17:16:00 -
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I find then otion that no PBL corps have NAPd us comic in the extreme :) We actually get intel from two of them.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.20 17:24:00 -
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Why did you have to tell them Lall, I was enjoying them getting progressively bolder.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Mystera
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Posted - 2005.01.20 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: Mystera
Originally by: DeMundus Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:21:11 Edited by: DeMundus on 19/01/2005 23:20:34 Here is a link to the visual I promised
.. But where's the 100 vs 30 bit? Your overview shows you out number us in the engagement you captured, not the other way around.
You have to watch the whole movie, not just take one frame and count the ships in that. You guys jumped in around 100+ ships, we warped to the gate and engaged, you warped out 100+ ships minus 3-4 which we managed to kill before you all had warped out. If you had stayed when you jumped in, instead of warping out, we would have had a 100ish vs 30ish fight at the gate. And that would have been awesome .
Sorry, you're quite right, I've watched it through again and must not have been paying that much attention the first time , thought we were looking at a different engagement from that day. But I agree that's about 60 ships arriving from FA to join with the 25 or so PBL at a SS - nice camera work on that FA BS going pop towards the end.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.20 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante I find then otion that no PBL corps have NAPd us comic in the extreme :) We actually get intel from two of them.
And thus begins the treachery.
You guys (ShinRa) are so good at this part. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
benwallace
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Posted - 2005.01.20 18:25:00 -
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hey gud will convo you in-game about that and moron who said about pbl exissted one month i don't care I am talking abotu when dsma ran the show ca took ove a couple of times jerk then a when dsma captured teh station fa kessy came by saying thanks and taks it back stting tax to 2.5% and not giving the +5 standig to the corps that defended that they promised so what do you know period basis punk yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr --------------------------
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Mystera
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Posted - 2005.01.20 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante I find then otion that no PBL corps have NAPd us comic in the extreme :) We actually get intel from two of them.
you'll note I said none had "announced" a NAP and that's certainly accurate , go on Lallante .. tell me who they are
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.20 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Drogos on 20/01/2005 18:55:55
Originally by: Lallante I find the notion that no PBL corps have NAP'd us comic in the extreme. :) We actually get intel from two of them.
Originally by: Chowdown Why did you have to tell them Lall, I was enjoying them getting progressively bolder.
Played as I expected... of course, there could be no other choice, in your position.
benwallace: If you're incapable of understanding sentence structure, grammar or punctuation, no one is ever going to take you seriously.
-=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
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Smith
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Posted - 2005.01.20 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: Smith on 20/01/2005 19:07:26 This thread is basically one long boring slagging match. Why has this thread not been locked?
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.01.20 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 20/01/2005 19:23:33 Funnily enough, its one of only two threads ive bothered to read in their entirety on these boards... it is mildly amusing
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The Monk
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Posted - 2005.01.20 19:24:00 -
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Forum mods must be asleep smith... ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ ----------------------- |
Crusher166
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Posted - 2005.01.20 20:18:00 -
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sounds like fun Shinra GL with what ur doing.
You just ruined my hunting grounds and put friendlies in it, grrr
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Demian Sky
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Posted - 2005.01.20 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Demian Sky on 20/01/2005 20:44:59 I'm in one of the local neutral corps in Period Basis. We've been in Period Basis for around a year, and have no intention of leaving. We only fight when we are provoked: When we are attacked by pirates and brigands, we gladly hop in our warships and help chase them out of the region. We even frequently sent Period Basis Legion some of our funds to assist them in their effort to destroy those that might attack us. I think we had done our part.
Last week, we all know Shinra invaded Period Basis. Our corp was suiting up for war when, surprisingly, they were very cordial to the neutral corporations in the region, and readily volunteered not to attack us if we didn't assist Fountain. They were friendly and, humorously, warned us when Fountain was in the area, referring to them as bloodthirsty and trigger happy.
We didn't take these warnings very seriously because we still considered Fountain peaceful on our behalf, but this would soon change. Without warning, they opened fire on some of our corp mates and podding them--- then later declared that we were KOS. Their reasons? We weren't helping Shinra in anyway (the refining tax was at 0 percent) and we weren't providing them with any information. We merely had an NAP. Of course, neither SE or Xetic are KOS for Fountain (both have NAP's with shinra as well), which is a blatant counterdiction to Fountain's logic.
So our corp is now suiting up for war as we had planned earlier--- but in this instance, we will be landing on the side of Shinra. After all, our policy has always been self-defense, and Fountain is the ruthless aggressor.
I complement Fountain on their savvy politics! I've never seen an alliance so effectively make an enemy out of peaveloving by-standards!
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Jeebs
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Posted - 2005.01.20 21:20:00 -
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i sing for absolution.
(\_/) (x.x) (> <) This was Bunny. Kill Bunny and stop him from achieving world domination. |
Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.01.20 21:28:00 -
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I concur with my corp mate and very good friend Demian Sky, FA attacked our Neutral corp without any indication of our corp being KOS. Simply because they saw our ships undock without agression from the Shinra fleet. Unfortunately this act of agression has brought us to this. You have just added another 20+ Battleships to the Shinra fleet, well done
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Datja
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Posted - 2005.01.20 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Demian Sky Edited by: Demian Sky on 20/01/2005 20:44:59 We didn't take these warnings very seriously because we still considered Fountain peaceful on our behalf, but this would soon change. Without warning, they opened fire on some of our corp mates and podding them--- then later declared that we were KOS. Their reasons? We weren't helping Shinra in anyway (the refining tax was at 0 percent) and we weren't providing them with any information. We merely had an NAP. Of course, neither SE or Xetic are KOS for Fountain (both have NAP's with shinra as well), which is a blatant counterdiction to Fountain's logic.
I hope you don't mind if I take a part out of your post.
just wanted to ask why you compare an alliance with a (your) corp. Putting one corp on the KOS list is alot less painfull then putting an entire alliance on the KOS list...
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.01.20 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Demian Sky Edited by: Demian Sky on 20/01/2005 20:44:59 referring to them as bloodthirsty and trigger happy.
We actually said "ISKthirsty" =P -------------------------
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.01.20 22:06:00 -
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Datja, that still gives no right for them to put some random corp on KOS. nwhat u just said is that fa would put both xetic and SE on kos list if they were'nt so powerful. I find that amusing but not suprising.as we all know fa are fans of long knives
i knew u would pick right when the time came edison ;)
My vids and random stuff |
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.01.20 22:09:00 -
[201]
You never doubted me did you 'ol buddy?? Oh its good to be back!
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2005.01.21 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Demian Sky Edited by: Demian Sky on 20/01/2005 20:44:59 I'm in one of the local neutral corps in Period Basis. We've been in Period Basis for around a year, and have no intention of leaving. We only fight when we are provoked: When we are attacked by pirates and brigands, we gladly hop in our warships and help chase them out of the region. We even frequently sent Period Basis Legion some of our funds to assist them in their effort to destroy those that might attack us. I think we had done our part.
Last week, we all know Shinra invaded Period Basis. Our corp was suiting up for war when, surprisingly, they were very cordial to the neutral corporations in the region, and readily volunteered not to attack us if we didn't assist Fountain. They were friendly and, humorously, warned us when Fountain was in the area, referring to them as bloodthirsty and trigger happy.
We didn't take these warnings very seriously because we still considered Fountain peaceful on our behalf, but this would soon change. Without warning, they opened fire on some of our corp mates and podding them--- then later declared that we were KOS. Their reasons? We weren't helping Shinra in anyway (the refining tax was at 0 percent) and we weren't providing them with any information. We merely had an NAP. Of course, neither SE or Xetic are KOS for Fountain (both have NAP's with shinra as well), which is a blatant counterdiction to Fountain's logic.
So our corp is now suiting up for war as we had planned earlier--- but in this instance, we will be landing on the side of Shinra. After all, our policy has always been self-defense, and Fountain is the ruthless aggressor.
I complement Fountain on their savvy politics! I've never seen an alliance so effectively make an enemy out of peaveloving by-standards!
When FA does stuff like this, they should at least have a ready excuse. Most of the time they just try to pass a few contradictory explanations at you, then when cornered, say you were KOS to begin with. It's like trying to reason with your seven year old.
I'm sure they just thought you were ex-DSMA, or had a healthy hauler full of mega. "If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.21 08:01:00 -
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I wonder how FA gets their NAP information, myself doesnt even know who we are napped with, I only see the good standings so i won't shoot.
And FA shooting the corporation with a possible NAP shows me only 1 thing, that they are loosing grip on the situation.
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Estios
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Posted - 2005.01.21 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Max Edited by: Cpt Max on 19/01/2005 18:06:32 Shinra are not a long term threat to Period basis,
merely ships passing in the night,
So Congratulations on increasing the ranks of FA,
I too would like to take this opportunity to thank Shinra for increasing FA's ranks , sharing ftw
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.21 12:37:00 -
[205]
Your welcome
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MIGHTYDWC
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Posted - 2005.01.21 13:35:00 -
[206]
Originally by: FoxHunt
If the PBL have really starting signing NAPs at this point, I find that a bit sad. No pride in their alliance, or no trust in FA to come rescue them. Hey Shinra, bring back Orion Federation.
LOL Fox. Remind me again who Orion was. LOL Favorite saying on TS: This "phoon of Doom" is very easy to kill things with. They die very fast. <---JaegerX
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.01.21 13:56:00 -
[207]
Originally by: MIGHTYDWC
Originally by: FoxHunt
If the PBL have really starting signing NAPs at this point, I find that a bit sad. No pride in their alliance, or no trust in FA to come rescue them. Hey Shinra, bring back Orion Federation.
LOL Fox. Remind me again who Orion was. LOL
Orion suxed 10 times. StA and DSMA should had merged and regulated all theirselfs. CFS was to much burocrative that time to be usefull. But respect was the barrier to do this. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.21 15:31:00 -
[208]
If anyone wants to come to PB and mine with 2% tax, contact chowdown ingame :)
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Tetricus
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Posted - 2005.01.21 15:41:00 -
[209]
Lall,
Can people come to PB and help give the FA a well deserved lesson in humility?
If so who do I need to contact?
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Loka
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Posted - 2005.01.21 15:45:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Tetricus Lall,
Can people come to PB and help give the FA a well deserved lesson in humility?
If so who do I need to contact?
FA made that many enemys in CFS space, that iam sure you wont be alone with this wish. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Deacon Iscariut
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Posted - 2005.01.21 20:04:00 -
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as posted by MIGHTYDWC
Quote:
Favorite saying on TS "THIS IS JAEGERX AND I HAVE HIM......HE'S SCRAMBLED AND WEBBED......WARP TO ME......WARP TO JAEGERX.........UH GUYS HURRY UP IM DYING.........OH WAIT HE'S DEAD NEVER MIND"
I remember that well
....and making the run back to empire with FA, QDF/FIX shooting at you the entire way.
I killed Kenny, You Bastard
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.22 01:50:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Tetricus Lall,
Can people come to PB and help give the FA a well deserved lesson in humility?
If so who do I need to contact?
There arnt really any FA in PB tbh.... If we see any Ill tell you
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Stevo
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Posted - 2005.01.22 03:33:00 -
[213]
w00t
- WAR IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT, BUT WHO IS LEFT -
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Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2005.01.23 14:12:00 -
[214]
You little legend Lallante. Can't belive i missed this thread. Wonderfull knews, glad someone finally gave a beating to the micky mouse allaince(PBL) these FA puppets have gone to long thinking they are actually a real allaince.
Glad someone showed them otherwise.
IF you need us down there. Just say and kr0m shall come.
-------------------------------www.kr0m.com-----------------------------
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.23 14:33:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Elisium Dammar You little legend Lallante. Can't belive i missed this thread. Wonderfull knews, glad someone finally gave a beating to the micky mouse allaince(PBL) these FA puppets have gone to long thinking they are actually a real allaince.
Glad someone showed them otherwise.
IF you need us down there. Just say and kr0m shall come.
No we have it under control thanks.
WTS: Shinra's 1337 blob killing software, contact me for details.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.23 14:49:00 -
[216]
yeah those guys are our piniÒdas !
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.23 15:14:00 -
[217]
FA hit us again today, usual odds, usual results (actually better than normal).
Total BS kills over 100 now in the last week :)
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Robberts
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Posted - 2005.01.23 15:30:00 -
[218]
Also, If anyone is interested in making a bulk purchase of warp core stabs, please let us know. |
Ange1
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Posted - 2005.01.23 15:33:00 -
[219]
Wasn't it some 80 Warp Core Stabs recovered so far from destroyed ships in the last day or so? -------------------------
Proud Warrior of Shinra |
Detaitiv
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:18:00 -
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Quote: Total BS kills over 100 now in the last week :)
If you're not full of it, please evemail me 100 or so BS killmails, as it would indicate we're having a problem with people reporting when they do lose a ship.
I assume you're just full of it as engagements with all other forces we pretty much come to agreement on kills and loses. Odd that it's only Shinra that they would match up, isn't it. But you do kind of have a reputation for inflating numbers.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Detaitiv
Quote: Total BS kills over 100 now in the last week :)
If you're not full of it, please evemail me 100 or so BS killmails, as it would indicate we're having a problem with people reporting when they do lose a ship.
I assume you're just full of it as engagements with all other forces we pretty much come to agreement on kills and loses. Odd that it's only Shinra that they would match up, isn't it. But you do kind of have a reputation for inflating numbers.
LOL!
You guys get owed daily. We also never said it was 100 FA battleship losses.
Oh btw, you might want to get better ingame and stop posting on the forums until you stop sucking.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:26:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Detaitiv
Quote: Total BS kills over 100 now in the last week :)
If you're not full of it, please evemail me 100 or so BS killmails, as it would indicate we're having a problem with people reporting when they do lose a ship.
I assume you're just full of it as engagements with all other forces we pretty much come to agreement on kills and loses. Odd that it's only Shinra that they would match up, isn't it. But you do kind of have a reputation for inflating numbers.
Dont worry FA big guy, not all were FA ships. FIX, PBL et.al. are counted too. For a little insight see for yourself. And do remember, not all our kills are reported, and neither are our deaths probably.
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:38:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Detaitiv
Quote: Total BS kills over 100 now in the last week :)
If you're not full of it, please evemail me 100 or so BS killmails, as it would indicate we're having a problem with people reporting when they do lose a ship.
I assume you're just full of it as engagements with all other forces we pretty much come to agreement on kills and loses. Odd that it's only Shinra that they would match up, isn't it. But you do kind of have a reputation for inflating numbers.
Erm how many characters can you fit in an eve-mail. Who do we have a reputation of inflating numbers with. The only inflated numbers I see is the number of pilots that are sent to deal with us. And Fail!
www.eve-kills.com is where we are posting our kill mails atm. If we are short please let me know and I will put mine up as well.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Detaitiv
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:54:00 -
[224]
Okay, so what I see is you guys are up by 1 bship today.
I guess that is defined as "owning us"
wtg, gf.
Stop trying to spin this little thing into more than it is, an incursion of one corp into Period Basis at a time when you knew we were too occupied elsewhere to deal with you promptly.
And looking at the number of posts you guys are putting up, cut it out. I don't have time to read all these buggers and I don't think anyone else in FA will bother either.
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.01.23 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ange1 on 23/01/2005 17:00:29 We're up by 1 BS? Where the hell did you get that information from? Have you even checked the map for ships destroyed in the last 24 hours for TPAR? It currently says 78 ships, of those losses, I think at most, 10 are Shinra, 3 of which are Battleships. The rest are all FA/FIX. -------------------------
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Detaitiv Okay, so what I see is you guys are up by 1 bship today.
I guess that is defined as "owning us"
wtg, gf.
Stop trying to spin this little thing into more than it is, an incursion of one corp into Period Basis at a time when you knew we were too occupied elsewhere to deal with you promptly.
And looking at the number of posts you guys are putting up, cut it out. I don't have time to read all these buggers and I don't think anyone else in FA will bother either.
Honestly, what are you smoking?
We've killed more of you lamers at safespots than you have killed in total.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:03:00 -
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As an innocent bystander in TPAR atm i would say that Shinra have killed roughly 20 FA BS today, to limited losses (couple of scorps)
Is that your definition of 1 up Detativ?
Maybe if you actually came to TPAR you would have a clue. ---------------
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WildHope
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Detaitiv Okay, so what I see is you guys are up by 1 bship today.
I guess that is defined as "owning us"
wtg, gf.
Stop trying to spin this little thing into more than it is, an incursion of one corp into Period Basis at a time when you knew we were too occupied elsewhere to deal with you promptly.
And looking at the number of posts you guys are putting up, cut it out. I don't have time to read all these buggers and I don't think anyone else in FA will bother either.
Interesting viewpoint. I don't think we've fielded as many battleships today as our oppoenents have managed to lose...I guess if we're only 1 bs kill up we're flying with negative numbers again.
Chow you'll have to share your 'L33t H4x'.
Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations) |
Detaitiv
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:09:00 -
[229]
Edited by: Detaitiv on 23/01/2005 17:10:02 I'm sorry, I thought this was about Shinra v FA, not ever miner or afk pilot you've been able to gank. My mistake.
I'm leaving the boards for the day. Keep having fun spinning every ship you gank into an evil FA battleship fitted with 6 wcs.
Or is it that you haven't seen an FA ship in TPAR?
I get so confused when the spin monkeies are going in opposite directions.
Edit to Dread: please refer to the kill list Shinra so thoughful linked above.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 23/01/2005 17:18:48
Originally by: Detaitiv Edited by: Detaitiv on 23/01/2005 17:10:02 I'm sorry, I thought this was about Shinra v FA, not ever miner or afk pilot you've been able to gank. My mistake.
I'm leaving the boards for the day. Keep having fun spinning every ship you gank into an evil FA battleship fitted with 6 wcs.
Or is it that you haven't seen an FA ship in TPAR?
I get so confused when the spin monkeies are going in opposite directions.
Edit to Dread: please refer to the kill list Shinra so thoughful linked above.
I suggest you go to the link the Guderian very kindly provided. Then count how many FA BS have died today. I then suggest you warp out of your asteroid belt, take off the miner IIs, and fly down to TPAR. I think I need your corpse for my collection.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:14:00 -
[231]
ROFL.
All the "lame miners" are NAPd to us. The ones we kill are all in FA fleets, Id ssay calling them lame was a bad move if you want them to keep your 3:1 odds safe.
Ask some of the FA fleet commanders if they wer "1 down today". I think youll find its closer to 20 (Today alone)...
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Detaitiv Edited by: Detaitiv on 23/01/2005 17:10:02 I'm sorry, I thought this was about Shinra v FA, not ever miner or afk pilot you've been able to gank. My mistake.
I'm leaving the boards for the day. Keep having fun spinning every ship you gank into an evil FA battleship fitted with 6 wcs.
Or is it that you haven't seen an FA ship in TPAR?
I get so confused when the spin monkeies are going in opposite directions.
Edit to Dread: please refer to the kill list Shinra so thoughful linked above.
Only one I see spinning is you. Not too mention, who is mining here other than those we allow? It agains shows how little you understand Eve and TPAR. Only ppl we allow can dock. I know that is a difficult concept for you to grasp though.
Only FA ships I saw in Tpar are now in cargo cans tbh.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:20:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Detaitiv Edited by: Detaitiv on 23/01/2005 17:10:02
Edit to Dread: please refer to the kill list Shinra so thoughful linked above.
Oh i apologise, 16BS then , and i count FA as FA+Lackies. If you dont want to count them as allies you have lost due to your own bad leadership, im sure they apprechiate that. ---------------
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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:21:00 -
[234]
Owned in the forums and ingame.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:22:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Detaitiv Edited by: Detaitiv on 23/01/2005 17:10:02 I'm leaving the boards for the day. Keep having fun spinning every ship you gank into an evil FA battleship fitted with 6 wcs.
It wasn't 6 it was only 4, and he IS in FA. Atleast thats what his corp says. Return of the Warp Core Stabs
"Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond." |
Monkey Time
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Posted - 2005.01.23 17:23:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Detaitiv Edited by: Detaitiv on 23/01/2005 17:10:02 I'm sorry, I thought this was about Shinra v FA, not ever miner or afk pilot you've been able to gank. My mistake.
I'm leaving the boards for the day. Keep having fun spinning every ship you gank into an evil FA battleship fitted with 6 wcs.
Or is it that you haven't seen an FA ship in TPAR?
I get so confused when the spin monkeies are going in opposite directions.
Edit to Dread: please refer to the kill list Shinra so thoughful linked above.
click here for this guys home page.
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2005.01.23 18:05:00 -
[237]
Where can I get a Hyperbaton T-shirt?
"If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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Mulvi
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Posted - 2005.01.23 18:12:00 -
[238]
Originally by: FoxHunt
Where can I get a Hyperbaton T-shirt?
Its not planned until later. But the Chowdown action figure is shipping anytime now :). Bendable arms and legs and multiple weapons, including missiles.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.23 18:49:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Mulvi
Originally by: FoxHunt
Where can I get a Hyperbaton T-shirt?
Its not planned until later. But the Chowdown action figure is shipping anytime now :). Bendable arms and legs and multiple weapons, including missiles.
Comes with removable underwear due to market research (ie, we asked Tancrid what HE wanted to see on the doll)
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Mulvi
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Posted - 2005.01.23 18:51:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Lallante
Originally by: Mulvi
Originally by: FoxHunt
Where can I get a Hyperbaton T-shirt?
Its not planned until later. But the Chowdown action figure is shipping anytime now :). Bendable arms and legs and multiple weapons, including missiles.
Comes with removable underwear due to market research (ie, we asked Tancrid what HE wanted to see on the doll)
or rather NOT see
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.23 20:41:00 -
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Its really hard to kill an FA raven, 5 low slots means 5 stabs.
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Doc Stone
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Posted - 2005.01.24 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante ROFL.
All the "lame miners" are NAPd to us. The ones we kill are all in FA fleets, Id ssay calling them lame was a bad move if you want them to keep your 3:1 odds safe.
Ask some of the FA fleet commanders if they wer "1 down today". I think youll find its closer to 20 (Today alone)...
The way I hear it, Shinra shoots everyone who hasn't declared allegiance to Shinra, whether they are noob, neutral, whatever, whether they are in a FA fleet or not.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.24 05:59:00 -
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I use the sentence (since my CA time): if it aint blue it aint living (ofcuz green and purple... but thats obvious).
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Siddy
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Posted - 2005.01.24 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
This morning Fountain showed their true feelings on the region: A small fountain fleet (15BS ish) was able to rescue a few bedraggled blockadees from the station and try to escort them back up to Fountain. Our fleet managed to get the jump on them and in the loot that was recovered we found a LOT of megacyte and Zydrine! Looked a lot like FA were taking their mins and making a run for it.
huehehehehehehe -------------------------------------------
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.24 17:41:00 -
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Checking, the BIG hangar still has 200k zyd in it.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.24 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Checking, the BIG hangar still has 200k zyd in it.
Is it still in individual refine piles.
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Doc Stone
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Posted - 2005.01.24 18:42:00 -
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Shinra doesn't like to tell anybody that the station at TPAR has changed hands at least four time since Saturday. Period Basis appears, at best, to be disputed territory, and Shinra is not in control of the area.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.24 18:48:00 -
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ROFL, check the map, Ask your commanders how many shinra they have killed.
FA managed to take the station in the early hours of the morning and lost it again immediately after DT. Since then no FA have left safespots.
Taking a station for an hour or two during the middle of the night and not even fighting to keep it does not make it "disputed".
We are the only force currently in TPAR.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2005.01.24 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: Sky Hunter on 24/01/2005 19:12:16
Originally by: Lallante
Taking a station for an hour or two during the middle of the night and not even fighting to keep it does not make it "disputed".
Well, FA took station in the "middle of the night"(22 GMT it was if i remeber correctly), then you came back at the morning(10-11 AM GMT) and started takin it back. So i guess we can call that even, heh.... -=-
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.24 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 24/01/2005 20:05:58 What are you people on?
You captured the station on sunday morning, knowing are numbers are not so great then. You then proceeded to bring a blob down with enough EW ships to account for each one of are pilots, and then another blob on top. You had not intention of fighting, your interest is bringing down such numbers that we can't fight you. But hell we do anyway, and win, again, and again, and again.
Why don't you show the people of PB that you are interested in this area and garrison it? Or are you simply going to have to admitt that this station since a week last Sunday has been in your hands for less than 24 hours. TBH I don't even know why there is a conflict sign on the region, it clearly i
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.24 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 24/01/2005 20:05:58 What are you people on?
You captured the station on sunday morning, knowing are numbers are not so great then. You then proceeded to bring a blob down with enough EW ships to account for each one of are pilots, and then another blob on top. You had not intention of fighting, your interest is bringing down such numbers that we can't fight you. But hell we do anyway, and win, again, and again, and again.
Why don't you show the people of PB that you are interested in this area and garrison it? Or are you simply going to have to admitt that this station since a week last Sunday has been in your hands for less than 24 hours. TBH I don't even know why there is a conflict sign on the region, it clearly i
I think you got cutoff somewhere in that post... but reading it a thought hit me.
If you really wanted to make FA make a decision why didn't you guys take the station and turn it over to PBL corporations? As is, you guys owning the stations makes it an easy decision for your traditional enemies to attack to reclaim the station. Or are you guys going to get into the "empire building" business? ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
The Altmeister
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Posted - 2005.01.24 20:43:00 -
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Seems simple to me:
The locals can't control the area, so they either have FA control it or Shinra control it.
FA control 2.5% tax, 5m Delve passport fee, no military presence Shinra control 2% tax, no hidden fees, military presence
The locals pay their money and make a choice, but I can see why they are choosing Shinra over FA.
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Chows Flamealt
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Posted - 2005.01.24 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: The Altmeister Seems simple to me:
The locals can't control the area, so they either have FA control it or Shinra control it.
FA control 2.5% tax, 5m Delve passport fee, no military presence Shinra control 2% tax, no hidden fees, military presence
The locals pay their money and make a choice, but I can see why they are choosing Shinra over FA.
He presents a very good case.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.24 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: The Altmeister Seems simple to me:
The locals can't control the area, so they either have FA control it or Shinra control it.
FA control 2.5% tax, 5m Delve passport fee, no military presence Shinra control 2% tax, no hidden fees, military presence
The locals pay their money and make a choice, but I can see why they are choosing Shinra over FA.
I dunno bout that... The only people who have seen fit to attack them are Shinra. So why *should* they have to have a large military presence on their own. If everyone were as supportive of "free" space as they are claiming they are on these forums then the PBL folks *should* be able to exist in peace *without* a significant military. They had done so until Shinra showed up and probably would have continued to do so as most people who came to the area stopped to play with FIX instead of going the extra jumps to see PBL folks. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Doc Stone
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Posted - 2005.01.24 21:31:00 -
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It sounds like Shinra wants everyone to believe they are liberating the poor, downtrodden peasants of Period Basis from some evil overlord. I don't remember seeing anybody asking for such help. Did I miss a post somewhere? Or is this a case of Shinra thinking they know what's best for everyone else? As an economist, I can't help wondering who is paying Shinra to try and take over Period Basis. |
Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.24 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Stone As an economist, I can't help wondering who is paying Shinra to try and take over Period Basis.
Take a wild guess.....
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.01.24 21:35:00 -
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I asked for help acually I told them to liberate this area form the evil fa opressures --------------------------
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.24 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: benwallace I asked for help acually I told them to liberate this area form the evil fa opressures
LOL Ben... you are, bar none, the absolute, undisputed king of the double standard. I do enjoy hearing from you on some of these things. Keep the posts coming! ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Smith
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Posted - 2005.01.24 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 24/01/2005 20:05:58 What are you people on?
You captured the station on sunday morning, knowing are numbers are not so great then. You then proceeded to bring a blob down with enough EW ships to account for each one of are pilots, and then another blob on top. You had not intention of fighting, your interest is bringing down such numbers that we can't fight you. But hell we do anyway, and win, again, and again, and again.
Why don't you show the people of PB that you are interested in this area and garrison it? Or are you simply going to have to admitt that this station since a week last Sunday has been in your hands for less than 24 hours. TBH I don't even know why there is a conflict sign on the region, it clearly i
I think you got cutoff somewhere in that post... but reading it a thought hit me.
If you really wanted to make FA make a decision why didn't you guys take the station and turn it over to PBL corporations? As is, you guys owning the stations makes it an easy decision for your traditional enemies to attack to reclaim the station. Or are you guys going to get into the "empire building" business?
Holding TPAR has been a good thing in my eyes. I have had alot of fun here. Been lots of fights.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.01.24 21:51:00 -
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hmm, FA must be hurting, ATUK for example today has killed 16 FA bs for 2 losses. Shinra has killed similar/more numbers each day.
Let alone what BDCI/FRICK/RUBRA etc are doing to them.
Even with FA's endless pockets i doubt these losses can be sustainable for much longer and motivation must be even lower.
gl Shinra and kill them all ---------------
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.24 21:53:00 -
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Another fight against the FA blob, guess who took the field with no losses?
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Deacon Iscariut
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Posted - 2005.01.24 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN
I dunno bout that... The only people who have seen fit to attack them are Shinra. So why *should* they have to have a large military presence on their own. If everyone were as supportive of "free" space as they are claiming they are on these forums then the PBL folks *should* be able to exist in peace *without* a significant military. They had done so until Shinra showed up and probably would have continued to do so as most people who came to the area stopped to play with FIX instead of going the extra jumps to see PBL folks.
Then all that tax should go to the locals then. And free space does not cost 5 mil to enter. I agree with the free space idea but why should FA profit from it? As it has been said on countless occasions, ya gotta have the guns to hold an area and in FA's case they have never showed an interest in this area unless the refine station was taken. In the end, it's all about the isk to FA.
Shinra has a better deal on the table.
I killed Kenny, You Bastard
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.24 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: S3VYN on 24/01/2005 22:04:50
Originally by: Deacon Iscariut
Originally by: S3VYN
I dunno bout that... The only people who have seen fit to attack them are Shinra. So why *should* they have to have a large military presence on their own. If everyone were as supportive of "free" space as they are claiming they are on these forums then the PBL folks *should* be able to exist in peace *without* a significant military. They had done so until Shinra showed up and probably would have continued to do so as most people who came to the area stopped to play with FIX instead of going the extra jumps to see PBL folks.
Then all that tax should go to the locals then. And free space does not cost 5 mil to enter. I agree with the free space idea but why should FA profit from it? As it has been said on countless occasions, ya gotta have the guns to hold an area and in FA's case they have never showed an interest in this area unless the refine station was taken. In the end, it's all about the isk to FA.
Shinra has a better deal on the table.
Well that's why I made concessions for if Shinra was going to get into the empire building business. If they are going to stand next to the PBL people and claim sovereignty alongside them then by all means they should get taxes, etc for however long they are able to keep other corporations from harassing the PBL folks. But I was just pointing out that traditionally Shinra is more known for flying all over the place blowing up different people at different times, never really settling into one area. So it would be a big change for them.
But saying FA shouldn't "profit" from "free" space and saying Shinra should is just a bit contradictory, I think. I'm trying to look at this from an objective point of view that doesn't include my traditional loyalties or enemies. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.01.24 23:59:00 -
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eh Sevjn, wasnt shinra CA not even a month ago ? So its quiet harsh to say they never "settled down for one area"....
You try to turn the deal on Shinra saying that if they want the help of the locals they need to "nurse" them for the next year against whoever comes. The ppl down there can do that themself, first and foremost they need someone to cut their chains from the fa.
Also after 14 pages the talk gets boring, Shinra is there the locals deal with them and we all will see what happens down there and what shinras intentions are...
till then, happy hunting shinra
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim eh Sevjn, wasnt shinra CA not even a month ago ? So its quiet harsh to say they never "settled down for one area"....
You try to turn the deal on Shinra saying that if they want the help of the locals they need to "nurse" them for the next year against whoever comes. The ppl down there can do that themself, first and foremost they need someone to cut their chains from the fa.
Also after 14 pages the talk gets boring, Shinra is there the locals deal with them and we all will see what happens down there and what shinras intentions are...
till then, happy hunting shinra
Shinra didn't spend the majority of their time in CA space, I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong). My understanding is that they were basically a roving group carrying out CA's will.
But ya... whatever is fine by me as far as what goes on over there, I just want to understand the situation from an information perspective as I spend a lot of time putting together "news" stories to summarize what is going on. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:09:00 -
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Judgeing by the number of Shinra posting, backs up what one of our members seen. Shinra spends most of time logged off until FA gets bored. Can't handle the #'s? oh whaaa!
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Judgeing by the number of Shinra posting, backs up what one of our members seen. Shinra spends most of time logged off until FA gets bored. Can't handle the #'s? oh whaaa!
We handle numbers just fine.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Chucky Judgeing by the number of Shinra posting, backs up what one of our members seen. Shinra spends most of time logged off until FA gets bored. Can't handle the #'s? oh whaaa!
We handle numbers just fine.
how many 0's are there in '0wned'?
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:43:00 -
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Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
how many 0's are there in '0wned'?
0
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
Actually you do that all the time... Come down to TPAR that is.
Claiming we dont fight outnumbered just shows YOU haven't ever been at a battle. We fight outnumbered all the time, watch that movie if for the proof. On a sidenote, we have yet to lose a fleetbattle to the combined forces of FA / FIX / PBL. Outnumbered or not.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
What is left of FA?
I did a google search for "Fountain Morale"
Your search - "fountain morale" - did not match any documents
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: S3VYN on 25/01/2005 00:54:04
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Chucky Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
Actually you do that all the time... Come down to TPAR that is.
Claiming we dont fight outnumbered just shows YOU haven't ever been at a battle. We fight outnumbered all the time, watch that movie if for the proof. On a sidenote, we have yet to lose a fleetbattle to the combined forces of FA / FIX / PBL. Outnumbered or not.
Don't bring FIX into this, I just got done being mad at you guys!
For information regarding Shinra's success against FIX:
FIX Kilboard Leaderboard's All Time Most Losses List
FIX Killboard Leaderboard's Most Losses List (last 30 days)
BTW - REALLY nice video. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.25 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 25/01/2005 01:01:20 Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 25/01/2005 00:57:41 Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 25/01/2005 00:56:45 What i said about FIX is purely about the FIXIANS (?) that join FA / PBL down to TPAR and fight us every so often. Usually get their ass handed to 'em.
Either way, is there any way i can see what those losses consist off? (Im mainly interested in number of BS kills...I couldnt care less about frigate losses, i dont keep track of those.)
EDIT: Thanks about the video. First one i made, expect more to come. I'm drowning in footage so.
EDIT2: Bloody typo.
EDIT3: We register most of our kills here for now. Referring there, it seems that ALL the losses we suffered FIX was involved in? Sounds fishy to me but ah well.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 01:01:00 -
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Very, VERY nice for a first video, can't wait to see more from you! Only problem with it was... OMG someone had the gall to remake "Purple Rain"??!?!?
You can use the navigation at the top of those boards to search for Shinra losses on the board (search for Shinra as corporation under victim) and it lists the ship there.
Our killboards aren't as comprehensive as I *could* have made them, but requirement #1 was that they worked in the in-game browser, and they do, so there! hehe
Thanks for clarifying about FIX, I'm not sure who all has been down to fight you guys but they haven't made any remarkable comments about it (meaning they must have just been out for a good time). ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.25 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN Very, VERY nice for a first video, can't wait to see more from you! Only problem with it was... OMG someone had the gall to remake "Purple Rain"??!?!?
I'm actually sorry i used that song in the video already. In an engagement the other day we had this pretty fun fleet move where we warped in from right ABOVE the hostile fleet right INTO the hostile fleet. Got that on FRAPS too, and it actually looks like alot of purple icons raining down on the orange fleet.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: S3VYN Very, VERY nice for a first video, can't wait to see more from you! Only problem with it was... OMG someone had the gall to remake "Purple Rain"??!?!?
I'm actually sorry i used that song in the video already. In an engagement the other day we had this pretty fun fleet move where we warped in from right ABOVE the hostile fleet right INTO the hostile fleet. Got that on FRAPS too, and it actually looks like alot of purple icons raining down on the orange fleet.
Oh... then very nice touch lol.
BTW - our boards DO include pod kills, newbie ships AND shuttles. We do this because we feel that if our guys took the time to kill something it counts. This is contrary to what many killboards do (and ours may change in the future, as we get more experience with it). ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.25 01:13:00 -
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Well, it all depends where your focus lies. Having one work ingame is actually VERY usefull, but it does limit your options i imagine.
Either way, lets not get carried away from the topic shall we?
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.25 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Chucky Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
Actually you do that all the time... Come down to TPAR that is.
Claiming we dont fight outnumbered just shows YOU haven't ever been at a battle. We fight outnumbered all the time, watch that movie if for the proof. On a sidenote, we have yet to lose a fleetbattle to the combined forces of FA / FIX / PBL. Outnumbered or not.
Corpmate went down sunday, said the highlight was watchin chow go boom After that shinra stayed logged till they you had more, but we fought anyway
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.25 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 25/01/2005 01:26:16
Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Chucky Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
Actually you do that all the time... Come down to TPAR that is.
Claiming we dont fight outnumbered just shows YOU haven't ever been at a battle. We fight outnumbered all the time, watch that movie if for the proof. On a sidenote, we have yet to lose a fleetbattle to the combined forces of FA / FIX / PBL. Outnumbered or not.
Corpmate went down sunday, said the highlight was watchin chow go boom After that shinra stayed logged till they you had more, but we fought anyway
Your corpmate by any chance 'forgot' to mention that the only reason Chow died was we warped into your fleet at point-blank range, while being outnumbered 3:1?
He also mightve forgot to mention that in this whole daring manouver, Chow was the ONLY BS to go down on our side, and that we killed one of your Arma's + loads of support ships in the progress?
Don't worry though, i've all that on FRAPS too, so you can verify that IS how it happened soonish. (Like when i've found fitting music to go with it.)
EDIT: For those of you wondering, yes i was recently recruited for the nightshift of 'forum*****'.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.25 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 25/01/2005 01:26:16
Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Chucky Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
Actually you do that all the time... Come down to TPAR that is.
Claiming we dont fight outnumbered just shows YOU haven't ever been at a battle. We fight outnumbered all the time, watch that movie if for the proof. On a sidenote, we have yet to lose a fleetbattle to the combined forces of FA / FIX / PBL. Outnumbered or not.
Corpmate went down sunday, said the highlight was watchin chow go boom After that shinra stayed logged till they you had more, but we fought anyway
Your corpmate by any chance 'forgot' to mention that the only reason Chow died was we warped into your fleet at point-blank range, while being outnumbered 3:1?
He also mightve forgot to mention that in this whole daring manouver, Chow was the ONLY BS to go down on our side, and that we killed one of your Arma's + loads of support ships in the progress?
Don't worry though, i've all that on FRAPS too, so you can verify that IS how it happened soonish. (Like when i've found fitting music to go with it.)
EDIT: For those of you wondering, yes i was recently recruited for the nightshift of 'forum*****'.
Oh Chow said it was 4 to 1, help him with his math homework would ya? And from what I've heard that fraps would have to be short and still a waste a time to DL.
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.01.25 02:17:00 -
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getting 290kb/s for that 102mg file nice took like 5 minutes to download --------------------------
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gr8razorx
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Posted - 2005.01.25 02:43:00 -
[283]
Nice video Elve. I especially liked the ending. It is missing the part where we warp back onto the station and into the enemy fleet
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Avernus
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Posted - 2005.01.25 04:03:00 -
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Good video
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Keesa
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Posted - 2005.01.25 04:31:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Chucky
Oh Chow said it was 4 to 1, help him with his math homework would ya?
LOL!!
ok that was funny.
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Sad Clown
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Posted - 2005.01.25 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Chucky Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
Actually you do that all the time... Come down to TPAR that is.
Claiming we dont fight outnumbered just shows YOU haven't ever been at a battle. We fight outnumbered all the time, watch that movie if for the proof. On a sidenote, we have yet to lose a fleetbattle to the combined forces of FA / FIX / PBL. Outnumbered or not.
Corpmate went down sunday, said the highlight was watchin chow go boom After that shinra stayed logged till they you had more, but we fought anyway
I'm glad FA has you posting on their behalf.
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Chows Flamealt
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Posted - 2005.01.25 07:14:00 -
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Ohh they all shot me? Shocking
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Domatavus Fallatus
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Posted - 2005.01.25 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: Domatavus Fallatus on 25/01/2005 08:13:12 besides that the video is huge smack, your lvl problem, that second geddon warping in that close must've been me :) didn't know it was that close...
cu in space
ps: your video editing skill is..... lolz... (yes this is a flame, due to many ppl saying it's a gr8 vid...)
------- My Posts only reflect my personal Opinion and NOT thoose of my Corp
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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.01.25 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Domatavus Fallatus Edited by: Domatavus Fallatus on 25/01/2005 08:13:12 besides that the video is huge smack, your lvl problem, that second geddon warping in that close must've been me :) didn't know it was that close...
cu in space
ps: your video editing skill is..... lolz... (yes this is a flame, due to many ppl saying it's a gr8 vid...)
Sorry that you guys are getting so ownd you had to quit the alliance.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.25 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 25/01/2005 08:56:40
Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Elve Sorrow Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 25/01/2005 01:26:16
Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Chucky Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
Actually you do that all the time... Come down to TPAR that is.
Claiming we dont fight outnumbered just shows YOU haven't ever been at a battle. We fight outnumbered all the time, watch that movie if for the proof. On a sidenote, we have yet to lose a fleetbattle to the combined forces of FA / FIX / PBL. Outnumbered or not.
Corpmate went down sunday, said the highlight was watchin chow go boom After that shinra stayed logged till they you had more, but we fought anyway
Your corpmate by any chance 'forgot' to mention that the only reason Chow died was we warped into your fleet at point-blank range, while being outnumbered 3:1?
He also mightve forgot to mention that in this whole daring manouver, Chow was the ONLY BS to go down on our side, and that we killed one of your Arma's + loads of support ships in the progress?
Don't worry though, i've all that on FRAPS too, so you can verify that IS how it happened soonish. (Like when i've found fitting music to go with it.)
EDIT: For those of you wondering, yes i was recently recruited for the nightshift of 'forum*****'.
Oh Chow said it was 4 to 1, help him with his math homework would ya? And from what I've heard that fraps would have to be short and still a waste a time to DL.
Where did I say that then? They let your corp in FA yet?
P.S. Sve are kills upon Fix outway your kills against us, alot. What do your statistics show other than we are your most active enemy? No flame intended FIX is definatley the best of the bunch down here.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Domatavus Fallatus Edited by: Domatavus Fallatus on 25/01/2005 08:13:12 besides that the video is huge smack, your lvl problem, that second geddon warping in that close must've been me :) didn't know it was that close...
cu in space
ps: your video editing skill is..... lolz... (yes this is a flame, due to many ppl saying it's a gr8 vid...)
Saying that the video is great is because of respect.
Its like saying to a girl she looks pretty while she is the most ugliest girl on the planet.
On top of that, the footage counts, not the editting. And i like how the editting is done anyway.
cu in space ? dude ive never seen you in space so stop telling lies.
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ElmWood
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Saying that the video is great is because of respect.
Its like saying to a girl she looks pretty while she is the most ugliest girl on the planet.
So lying shows more respect than being honest? Interesting...
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: ElmWood
Originally by: AvanCade Saying that the video is great is because of respect.
Its like saying to a girl she looks pretty while she is the most ugliest girl on the planet.
So lying shows more respect than being honest? Interesting...
Yes
You're good at Eve.
See
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Domatavus Fallatus Edited by: Domatavus Fallatus on 25/01/2005 08:13:12 besides that the video is huge smack, your lvl problem, that second geddon warping in that close must've been me :) didn't know it was that close...
cu in space
ps: your video editing skill is..... lolz... (yes this is a flame, due to many ppl saying it's a gr8 vid...)
So, show me all those movies of yours which must be pretty ******* awesome...You didnt make any? Oh. Right. Thought so. So bugger off. The video serves its purpose, it shows that in outnumbered fleetbattles we own your combined fleets.
Oh by the way, was it the few lone corporations that are attacking FA that caused you to leave FA? That would be pretty sad.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Elve Sorrow Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 25/01/2005 01:26:16
Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Chucky Ya, thats funny from someone who "0wnz the Esc key" Most of FA won't come to down just to watch you log
Actually you do that all the time... Come down to TPAR that is.
Claiming we dont fight outnumbered just shows YOU haven't ever been at a battle. We fight outnumbered all the time, watch that movie if for the proof. On a sidenote, we have yet to lose a fleetbattle to the combined forces of FA / FIX / PBL. Outnumbered or not.
Corpmate went down sunday, said the highlight was watchin chow go boom After that shinra stayed logged till they you had more, but we fought anyway
Your corpmate by any chance 'forgot' to mention that the only reason Chow died was we warped into your fleet at point-blank range, while being outnumbered 3:1?
He also mightve forgot to mention that in this whole daring manouver, Chow was the ONLY BS to go down on our side, and that we killed one of your Arma's + loads of support ships in the progress?
Don't worry though, i've all that on FRAPS too, so you can verify that IS how it happened soonish. (Like when i've found fitting music to go with it.)
EDIT: For those of you wondering, yes i was recently recruited for the nightshift of 'forum*****'.
Oh Chow said it was 4 to 1, help him with his math homework would ya? And from what I've heard that fraps would have to be short and still a waste a time to DL.
OMG, there is HARD evidence we fought outnumbered 2-3:1 AND that we dived right into them in close quarter combat, and you still have the audacity to argue that chow said 4:1 and not 3:1. And smack about the length of the fight.
You Sir, are a real piece of work, a true champion.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: ElmWood
Originally by: AvanCade Saying that the video is great is because of respect.
Its like saying to a girl she looks pretty while she is the most ugliest girl on the planet.
So lying shows more respect than being honest? Interesting...
From my experience ? Yes. Since truth can hurt much
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Sad Clown
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:04:00 -
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Anyone else think Chucky is related to Fragm?
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sad Clown Anyone else think Chucky is related to Fragm?
I thought more like Daniel Jackson tbh ---------------
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ElmWood
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Originally by: ElmWood
Originally by: AvanCade Saying that the video is great is because of respect.
Its like saying to a girl she looks pretty while she is the most ugliest girl on the planet.
So lying shows more respect than being honest? Interesting...
From my experience ? Yes. Since truth can hurt much
Ok, I have to evaluate my beliefs regarding giving constructive critics then. For some reason I did believe that ppl could handle that, and those who couldn¦t, had problems of another kind that they needed to take care of anyways to have a decent respect for themselves. But as DarkRydar explained above I have to be good at EVE to uderstand things like that. Good luck with your lives outside EVE!
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:27:00 -
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You are lucky we havn't bothered with any constructive critiscism of you guys. After all, this thread is ONLY 15 pages long.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.25 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: ElmWood
Ok, I have to evaluate my beliefs regarding giving constructive critics then. For some reason I did believe that ppl could handle that, and those who couldn¦t, had problems of another kind that they needed to take care of anyways to have a decent respect for themselves. But as DarkRydar explained above I have to be good at EVE to uderstand things like that. Good luck with your lives outside EVE!
You show me where you posted constructive critiscism and ill try and find a way to post "Shinra has yet to lose a fleetbattle to your combined forces" in a constructive way.
Deal?
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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ElmWood
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Posted - 2005.01.25 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Elve Sorrow
You show me where you posted constructive critiscism and ill try and find a way to post "Shinra has yet to lose a fleetbattle to your combined forces" in a constructive way.
Deal?
My initial post was regarding a guy that posted something that obviously showed that he thinks lying is a parameter to use to show respect for the person lied to. I disapprove with that since I believe that lying in it¦s essence is disrespectful. Then my follow up post was a reply on a stupid follow up post. More, I talk for myself as a person not as an character employed by s-44 in FA. Therefor, no deal.
Even more, I am not into eve politics so I know **** about how frequent constructive critics/non constructive critics is used by persons/corps/alliances in general. Probably it is used a lot less than we could hope for.
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Phyre
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Posted - 2005.01.25 13:47:00 -
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good thread...great read so far :) I made it to page6 ( just started reading it this night, and it's 430am lol)
It's times like this when I think to myself, "damn".
Here I am, ex-CFS. CFS had none of the cohesion or ship setups that Shinra has, but we had much more numbers. If only we had waited until now to rebel against FA, we could have the opportunity to fight FA alongside Shinra :) which is something I've wanted to do for a long time.
Oh.. I guess I should say something first, before continuing on with this post. These are my personal views, not those of my corp or alliance. Even though I have these views and opinions and desires, I will not act upon them because that would cause problems with my corp and the alliance. So... one can only dream.
Moving on!
Now FIX is sweating because Shinra is gonna end up with a nice new home, and it's always a good thing to see FIX sweat. FA could possibly be crippled with the war on multiple fronts, and a potential war with some mercenaries in Empire.
All of this stuff going on that I want to participate in SO BADLY... yet I cannot fight with those that I want to fight with. /bigcry
All I can do is cheer from the sidelines.
/emote waves goodbye at PBL and /middlefinger @ FA
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Walkin
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Posted - 2005.01.25 14:18:00 -
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phyre: Fix does not sweat shinra, if it wasnt for them our pvp pilots would have got bored and left the region. Lots of respect for Shinra for making the effort to show up and have some fun.
Fix recently set your corp back to neutral (black lance), i suggest you keep your thoughts about Fix to yourself to prevent more "misunderstandings". Consider this your 16th warning.
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Doc Stone
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Posted - 2005.01.25 15:46:00 -
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I've gone back and read everything I could find on Shinra, the Period Basis region, etc. I even found the Period Basis Legion (PBL) web site. I did not see anything where any resident of PB asked Shinra to come save them from the terrible situation of 2.5% refining at the TPAR station. All these statements by Shinra members that they are there to protect everybody doesn't make much sense. As someone pointed out, it was Shinra who was the attacking force, not other pirates. Shinra does appear to be losing ships, but how many is hard to tell. I'm new to Eve (which is maybe why the Shinra argument for trying to take over the region makes no sense to me), but even I can figure out that losing a 100+ mil battleship doesn't compare to losing a handful of cruisers or frigates.
So, who put Shinra up to this? Or did Shinra as a group get so terribly bored after leaving Curse Alliance that they decided to go and try to make life difficult for a bunch of other people? If Shinra hates FA so much (and again, I can't find any reason to do so, other then people being jealous of FA's success), why don't they go fight FA in Fountain like other people do?
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Chows Flamealt
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Posted - 2005.01.25 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Chows Flamealt on 25/01/2005 16:01:08
Originally by: Doc Stone I've gone back and read everything I could find on Shinra, the Period Basis region, etc. I even found the Period Basis Legion (PBL) web site. I did not see anything where any resident of PB asked Shinra to come save them from the terrible situation of 2.5% refining at the TPAR station.
Mate PBL are actively fighting us, its the rest of the poor souls in the area that we are freeing up the space for. Who are FA to charge a 5mil fee for people to use the space for the day. They do not garrison it.
That 5mil a day effectively ammounts to a anti-piracy charge. FA will not go out and mindlessly blow up your ship for no reason if you pay this fee. I s it that shocking that ppl say no to this.
Originally by: Doc Stone Shinra does appear to be losing ships, but how many is hard to tell. I'm new to Eve.
No offence dude but it shows. Are allies and enemies alike both know that if you ask me how many ships we have lost I will get you a figure together, and that figure will be 100% accurate. There is no shroud of mystery surrounding this Shinra supports all of its ship losses from the loot of are enemies. The fund which which the sold loot funds go into, is allways heavily in profit, and trust me we don't have bad mods on our ships.
Originally by: Doc Stone but even I can figure out that losing a 100+ mil battleship doesn't compare to losing a handful of cruisers or frigates.
Elaborate on this please I do not understand what point you are trying to make.
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Kornit0
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Posted - 2005.01.25 16:10:00 -
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Is it just me or Shinra members are over posting here if you go down a page you will se 80% posts by Shinra is that normal? Guy's be let the forum be and pls stay online in eve so we can settle this the only battle that I sow till now is on the forum are you going to stick to the action or just the text action? Just jokeing see you online guys, take care.
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Albus
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Posted - 2005.01.25 16:12:00 -
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Of course we're posting, it's a thread about us! Oh, and we're proud and don't take any **** from anyone. Always tends to result in forum whoring :-0
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Chowup
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Posted - 2005.01.25 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kornit0 Is it just me or Shinra members are over posting here if you go down a page you will se 80% posts by Shinra is that normal? Guy's be let the forum be and pls stay online in eve so we can settle this the only battle that I sow till now is on the forum are you going to stick to the action or just the text action? Just jokeing see you online guys, take care.
Exactly if questions are posed we will anser them. If incorrect statments are made, we will set the facts straight, 2 things which you will also find prevalent in this thread.
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.01.25 16:27:00 -
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Thread went off topic.
Unlocked after a quick cleanup.
Please, keep things on topic.
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empire nublette
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Posted - 2005.01.25 17:00:00 -
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/me puts things on topic.
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.25 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Drogos on 25/01/2005 17:04:22 Edited by: Drogos on 25/01/2005 17:03:49 Spelling is HARD.
Originally by: Chows Flamealt Mate PBL are actively fighting us, its the rest of the poor souls in the area that we are freeing up the space for. Who are FA to charge a 5mil fee for people to use the space for the day. They do not garrison it.
That 5mil a day effectively ammounts to a anti-piracy charge. FA will not go out and mindlessly blow up your ship for no reason if you pay this fee. Is it that shocking that ppl say no to this.
Such a heady blend of misinformation, misdirection and outright propaganda... Shinra, as always, are to be congratulated on their grasp of realpolitik and the ability to add english to any situation.
...but Chowdown, you've failed to answer the only really germane question: If the people you're "liberating" either don't care for you or your liberation, what are you doing in Period Basis? They know you're not going to support them, as you've stated so publically on more than one occasion. You have no plans to stay in the area, and it was also stated that Shinra will join no alliance in an effort to maintain Period Basis. So your "liberation" is nothing more than words, and a thinly veiled attempt at providing a second front versus Fountain.
As for second fronts, here's another question for you: Why aren't you in Delve? It's much closer to Fountain, and it certainly provides greater tactical opportunities for invasion of the Fountain region. ...or are you taking the easy road by picking on a fledgling alliance in the back corner of the universe?
I'm not a Fountain fan-boy by any means, but your relentless, pointless, patently false propaganda grates after a couple weeks.
-=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown P.S. Sve are kills upon Fix outway your kills against us, alot. What do your statistics show other than we are your most active enemy? No flame intended FIX is definatley the best of the bunch down here.
You do know I have to post a disagreement to that, right Chow?
I don't know what the numbers are. There's no way to guarantee that all of your guys entered EVERY kill AND loss on your killboards and there's certainly no way for us to do that either. We just take whatever cross-section of information we have and go from there.
I wouldn't make assertions based on killboard info that FIX had more kills than Shinra, in the same thought I won't concede that we don't.
Either way, except for one (apparently isolated) incident you guys have been pretty good about fighting us when you raid our space... the same can't be said for a LOT of other corporations so you got my respect there. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.25 17:06:00 -
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Hatepeace LoveWar just entered TPAR. Hope i get a warm welcome :( Reverend Necrona |
Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.01.25 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona Hatepeace LoveWar just entered TPAR. Hope i get a warm welcome :(
Didn't FIX kill you? ---------------
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.25 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Drogos
...but Chowdown, you've failed to answer the only really germane question: If the people you're "liberating" either don't care for you or your liberation, what are you doing in Period Basis?
Maybe from your limited perspective of the situation this may be the case. However for the "bigger picture", I am flooded with eve-mails of thanks, the list of people interested with access to this area grows exponentially. The fact that we don't ask the miners to do the fighting for us, might be one of the apealing factors.
Quote: They know you're not going to support them, as you've stated so publically on more than one occasion. You have no plans to stay in the area, and it was also stated that Shinra will join no alliance in an effort to maintain Period Basis.
We are still here, and certainly won't be posting any time frames for enemies of free space.
Quote: As for second fronts, here's a question for you: Why aren't you in Delve? It's much closer to Fountain, and it certainly provides greater tactical opportunities for invasion of the Fountain region. ...or are you taking the easy road by picking on a fledgling alliance in the back corner of the universe?
If fountain claim space they should have no problem defending it? I like the fountain blob to work for there money, literally. as for fledgling alliance are you talking of the FA, FIX or PBL alliances which jointly attack us down here.
Quote: I'm not a Fountain fan-boy by any means.
Quite right, your a fountain whipping boy
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Doc Stone
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Posted - 2005.01.25 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chows Flamealt Mate PBL are actively fighting us, its the rest of the poor souls in the area that we are freeing up the space for. Who are FA to charge a 5mil fee for people to use the space for the day. They do not garrison it.
That 5mil a day effectively ammounts to a anti-piracy charge. FA will not go out and mindlessly blow up your ship for no reason if you pay this fee. I s it that shocking that ppl say no to this.
Nobody was being charged anything for entering or mining in the Period Basis region, from what I've read. Only the 2.5% refining tax, which is less then the NPC corps charge at other stations. The 5 mil charge for a pass appears to apply only to the Delve region. Several people have said that the Delve pilots rarely try to collect the fee from people just passing through. Just like the pass that FA charges for Fountain, the Delve fee appears to be targeted to those people who want to hunt (and possibly mine) in Delve.
So, Shinra doesn't have a reason for attacking Period Basis, based on the information I've read. No one asked for any help, there is no fee being charged for being in the region, everyone can mine to their heart's content apparently, and they were only getting charged a refining tax that is less then what they would pay in Empire. And for all that, they get the privalege of Shinra coming to their region and blowing them up? No, logic seems to dictate that there is something else going on down there.
As for the battleship-loss vs. cruiser/frigate loss question, my calculator tells me that cruiser and frigate pilots can lose 10-20 times the ships and still have less monetary losses then a battleship pilot will suffer in losing one battleship. Based on current Empire ship prices, of course. People talk about that all the time across various threads, so it wasn't hard for me to figure that out.
Unless I'm missing something, Shinra seems to be trying to sell everyone a false bill-of-goods.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: S3VYN on 25/01/2005 17:54:06 I think, if I may, I can outline the points he's trying to make Chow and show you where people have questions as to you guys' intentions and process of accomplishing those intentions.
Basically, there was a fledgling alliance forming called PBL. FA was definitely helping them get set up. You guys attacked PBL as a way to "get at FA" by your claims. There's no one claiming Delve except for FA, so most people look at the situation and think that you guys setting up shop in Delve would have left PBL free as well as giving you an FA attack zone.
However, you attacked PBL and took the stations in their area. FA did hold the stations but as anyone who has formed a 0.0 alliance knows stations shouldn't be turned over to the alliance until the END of the process, once the alliance has all the administrative stuff in place.
So you guys attacked, took the station and claimed you were "freeing" the territory. But... you held the station and continue to tax. So most people see this as a way for you guys to make money and little more.
Basically I think it boils down to a lot of folks think that, according to what you say you want, you should have taken the stations and given them to the PBL and either left town or attempted to exist as a PART of the region, not the MASTER of the region.
I've dealt with you guys for quite some time now, while you were in CA and since you've left. But your smoke and mirrors approach to taking down enemies has always left me wondering wtf was really going on, so I'm sure I'm not the only one. But that's probably by design.
Edit: BTW - most of the PBL corporations entered through A2 and I can guarantee FA has never shown an interest in controlling that area and charging them for access. Where is the information coming from that those corps were charged to enter Period Basis? ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.25 17:55:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 25/01/2005 17:56:16
Originally by: Doc Stone
As for the battleship-loss vs. cruiser/frigate loss question, my calculator tells me that cruiser and frigate pilots can lose 10-20 times the ships and still have less monetary losses then a battleship pilot will suffer in losing one battleship. Based on current Empire ship prices, of course. People talk about that all the time across various threads, so it wasn't hard for me to figure that out.
I am not disputing that cruisers are cheaper than BS, and in turn frigs are cheaper than cruisers. What I am trying to understand is the relevance of this. Are you suggesting we are losing BS and the axis of evil against us is losing frigs and cruisers?
P.S. s3v I'm w***ed out now, someone else shift maybe in the morning :)
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Doc Stone
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Posted - 2005.01.25 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Drogos
...but Chowdown, you've failed to answer the only really germane question: If the people you're "liberating" either don't care for you or your liberation, what are you doing in Period Basis?
Maybe from your limited perspective of the situation this may be the case. However for the "bigger picture", I am flooded with eve-mails of thanks, the list of people interested with access to this area grows exponentially. The fact that we don't ask the miners to do the fighting for us, might be one of the apealing factors.
Quote: They know you're not going to support them, as you've stated so publically on more than one occasion. You have no plans to stay in the area, and it was also stated that Shinra will join no alliance in an effort to maintain Period Basis.
We are still here, and certainly won't be posting any time frames for enemies of free space.
Quote: As for second fronts, here's a question for you: Why aren't you in Delve? It's much closer to Fountain, and it certainly provides greater tactical opportunities for invasion of the Fountain region. ...or are you taking the easy road by picking on a fledgling alliance in the back corner of the universe?
If fountain claim space they should have no problem defending it? I like the fountain blob to work for there money, literally. as for fledgling alliance are you talking of the FA, FIX or PBL alliances which jointly attack us down here.
Quote: I'm not a Fountain fan-boy by any means.
Quite right, your a fountain whipping boy
I get it now. Shinra is really fighting FA in an attempt to weaken that alliance. So all this fighting about the only open 0.0-level systems on the map doesn't really have anything to do with saving people from an evil overlord, giving people a better economic deal, protecting them from "pirates", etc. Why didn't you just say that in the first place?
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.25 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 25/01/2005 18:06:08
Quote: I get it now. Shinra is really fighting FA in an attempt to weaken that alliance. So all this fighting about the only open 0.0-level systems on the map doesn't really have anything to do with saving people from an evil overlord, giving people a better economic deal, protecting them from "pirates", etc. Why didn't you just say that in the first place?
Are you going to answer my question, or is this some glorified soap box, for your misguided veiws of the eve community?
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.25 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 25/01/2005 17:56:16
Originally by: Doc Stone
As for the battleship-loss vs. cruiser/frigate loss question, my calculator tells me that cruiser and frigate pilots can lose 10-20 times the ships and still have less monetary losses then a battleship pilot will suffer in losing one battleship. Based on current Empire ship prices, of course. People talk about that all the time across various threads, so it wasn't hard for me to figure that out.
I am not disputing that cruisers are cheaper than BS, and in turn frigs are cheaper than cruisers. What I am trying to understand is the relevance of this. Are you suggesting we are losing BS and the axis of evil against us is losing frigs and cruisers?
P.S. s3v I'm w***ed out now, someone else shift maybe in the morning :)
/me slides in Chow's leather forum whoring chair.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.25 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Stone
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Drogos
...but Chowdown, you've failed to answer the only really germane question: If the people you're "liberating" either don't care for you or your liberation, what are you doing in Period Basis?
Maybe from your limited perspective of the situation this may be the case. However for the "bigger picture", I am flooded with eve-mails of thanks, the list of people interested with access to this area grows exponentially. The fact that we don't ask the miners to do the fighting for us, might be one of the apealing factors.
Quote: They know you're not going to support them, as you've stated so publically on more than one occasion. You have no plans to stay in the area, and it was also stated that Shinra will join no alliance in an effort to maintain Period Basis.
We are still here, and certainly won't be posting any time frames for enemies of free space.
Quote: As for second fronts, here's a question for you: Why aren't you in Delve? It's much closer to Fountain, and it certainly provides greater tactical opportunities for invasion of the Fountain region. ...or are you taking the easy road by picking on a fledgling alliance in the back corner of the universe?
If fountain claim space they should have no problem defending it? I like the fountain blob to work for there money, literally. as for fledgling alliance are you talking of the FA, FIX or PBL alliances which jointly attack us down here.
Quote: I'm not a Fountain fan-boy by any means.
Quite right, your a fountain whipping boy
I get it now. Shinra is really fighting FA in an attempt to weaken that alliance. So all this fighting about the only open 0.0-level systems on the map doesn't really have anything to do with saving people from an evil overlord, giving people a better economic deal, protecting them from "pirates", etc. Why didn't you just say that in the first place?
Your biases cloud your judgment. We dont shoot neutrals in Period Basis. We only shoot the Axis of Evil.
Make no mistakes, you're time to deal PBL has come to an end. We will no seek your utter distruction through all means necessary. Take that for what it means.
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As I expected, a lot of skillful evasions, rhetoric and just enough truth to make the whole thing plausible in the minds of some.
Pathetic attempts to insult me quite aside, the main thrust of my post remains unanswered. Darkrydar, you're up.
Originally by: "Doc Stone" I get it now. Shinra is really fighting FA in an attempt to weaken that alliance. So all this fighting about the only open 0.0-level systems on the map doesn't really have anything to do with saving people from an evil overlord, giving people a better economic deal, protecting them from "pirates", etc.
Whouda thunk it?
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.25 18:56:00 -
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Quote: get it now. Shinra is really fighting FA in an attempt to weaken that alliance. So all this fighting about the only open 0.0-level systems on the map doesn't really have anything to do with saving people from an evil overlord, giving people a better economic deal, protecting them from "pirates", etc.
PBL isnt an alliance. Its a subset of FA. They hold no claim to anything. The can't even fight one corp. PBL is a bunch of FA "Friendly" corps that hope to get into that less than exclusive club of 0.0 pirates. Period Basis is only open because we want it to be. Wont wont seek to charge neutrals 5M isk to travel there like FA does.
Hope I didnt confuse you too much.
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Drogos
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Originally by: Darkrydar Your biases cloud your judgment. We dont shoot neutrals in Period Basis. We only shoot the Axis of Evil.
lmao So... lol... the PBL, whose charter specifically calls for Period Basis to remain free and open to all non-hostile pilots, is now part of the Axis of Evil? I'm amazed to see it, but I think you guys are starting to believe in your own propaganda. Peddlers of inane rhetoric no more; Shinra have a misson! Hi-yo Silver... away!
Originally by: Darkrydar Make no mistakes PBL, your time to deal has come to an end. We will now seek your utter distruction through all means necessary. Take that for what it means.
Cleaned that up for you a bit. No thanks necessary. Anyway, to answer... rofl
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2005.01.25 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Drogos
...but Chowdown, you've failed to answer the only really germane question: If the people you're "liberating" either don't care for you or your liberation, what are you doing in Period Basis? They know you're not going to support them, as you've stated so publically on more than one occasion. You have no plans to stay in the area, and it was also stated that Shinra will join no alliance in an effort to maintain Period Basis. So your "liberation" is nothing more than words, and a thinly veiled attempt at providing a second front versus Fountain.
Your question is little more than filler; why would the citizens of Period Basis embrace Shinra's "new government"? More or less for one reason; it allows them to remain neutral and continue about their business. They don't have to maintain a levy of militia nor pay an obscene tax to roam the spaceways. Their looking after their own survival, a decision made easier when FA KOS thier corp.
Originally by: Drogos
lmao So... lol... the PBL, whose charter specifically calls for Period Basis to remain free and open to all non-hostile pilots, is now part of the Axis of Evil? I'm amazed to see it, but I think you guys are starting to believe in your own propaganda. Peddlers of inane rhetoric no more; Shinra have a misson! Hi-yo Silver... away!
You must be talking about a different PBL. We're talking about the puppet entity of FA that gank SE ships when it suits them, neutrals, and haulers while chalking it all up to "mistaken identity". Period Basis wasn't free under PBL rule...and that's my opinion. It holds about as much weight has your claim that PBL is god's gift to the territory.
Basically what you're trying to say is...if Shinra doesn't leave, you'll light their Country Music award on fire? "If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.25 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar PBL isnt an alliance. Its a subset of FA. They hold no claim to anything. The can't even fight one corp. PBL is a bunch of FA "Friendly" corps that hope to get into that less than exclusive club of 0.0 pirates. Period Basis is only open because we want it to be. Wont wont seek to charge neutrals 5M isk to travel there like FA does.
Hope I didnt confuse you too much.
More rhetoric, more bullsh!t. C'mon Darkrydar, you can do better than that.
PBL is a fledgling alliance composed of FA-friendly corps. In some cases, those corps were FA applicants. This has never been denied.
We can't even fight one corp? The false modesty positively hysterical... if you weren't trying to use it as some sort of half-assed logical argument.
I won't even bother to address the "less than exclusive club of 0.0 pirates" line. The irony would be too much for my keyboard to take.
Period Basis is only open because you want it to be... Jesus, the hypocrisy is just profound. So, you're saying that PBL's charter to keep Period Basis free and open to non-hostile pilots was ... what? A fabrication? A cover story by the Axis of Evil to hoard all the ore in Period Basis? To lull the neutral corporations into a false sense of security, then herd them all into one system for a mass podding?
Your "liberator" facade is starting to wear thin, fellas. Time to come up with a new cover story. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.25 19:14:00 -
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Let me clarify one thing.
Shinra does not recognise PBL as an entity. They have no claim to anything than the the name.
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.25 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Drogos on 25/01/2005 19:29:15
Originally by: FoxHunt it allows them to remain neutral and continue about their business. They don't have to maintain a levy of militia nor pay an obscene tax to roam the spaceways. Their looking after their own survival, a decision made easier when FA KOS thier corp.
Who required neutral corporations to maintain a levy of militia? Not PBL. Who required neutral corporations to pay any kind of tax? Not PBL. The sum total of the regulations that neutral corps are exptected to adhere to can be found here.
Originally by: FoxHunt You must be talking about a different PBL. We're talking about the puppet entity of FA that gank SE ships when it suits them, neutrals, and haulers while chalking it all up to "mistaken identity". Period Basis wasn't free under PBL rule...and that's my opinion. It holds about as much weight has your claim that PBL is god's gift to the territory.
No one here, most especially me, is claiming PBL is God's gift to anything. Shinra, however, are claiming they are the Chosen Protectors of 0.0 Freedom, Liberators of Free Space and all-around good eggs. I say the mask is false, they are pursuing their own agenda under false pretense, and that agenda has quite little to do with the "liberation" of Period Basis.
If someone uninvolved wants to know what PBL is all about, the link above will tell you all you need to know.
Originally by: "FoxHunt" Basically what you're trying to say is...if Shinra doesn't leave, you'll light their Country Music award on fire?
The neutrality and objectivity of ex-DSMA with axes to grind comes into question.
Originally by: "Darkrydar" Let me clarify one thing.
Shinra does not recognise PBL as an entity. They have no claim to anything than the the name.
We're sad, we really are. You've spent so much time and effort throughout this thread discrediting PBL as an entity, and now you say you don't recognize us? Which is it? I will say this: Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge us won't make us go away. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.25 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Drogos
I will say this: Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to acknowledge us won't make us go away.
Likewise.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2005.01.25 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Drogos Who required neutral corporations to maintain a levy of militia? Not PBL. Who required neutral corporations to pay any kind of tax? Not PBL. The sum total of the regulations that neutral corps are exptected to adhere to can be found here.
It's already established that the PBL, like the Orion Federation before it, is little more than a subset of FA itself. Since FA charges taxes and maintains that neutrals fight against Shinra or risk becoming KOS, your statements here don't hold water.
Quote: No one here, most especially me, is claiming PBL is God's gift to anything. Shinra, however, are claiming they are the Chosen Protectors of 0.0 Freedom, Liberators of Free Space and all-around good eggs. I say the mask is false, and they are pursuing their own agenda under false pretense, and that agenda has quite little to do with the "liberation" of Period Basis.
Period Basis wasn't free under PBL/FA rule. It's little more than, or was, an empirical colony. Taxing residents without representation is not a democracy.
Quote: The neutrality and objectivity of ex-DSMA with axes to grind comes into question.
I imagine it makes as much difference has your own objectiveness. Glad we're on equal footing and you admit it. "If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: FoxHunt Basically what you're trying to say is...if Shinra doesn't leave, you'll light their Country Music award on fire?
Never... ever... ever... ever... say something that funny without first providing fair warning. Keyboards, mice and even laptops have been ruined by such statements, now mine is included, thanks.
Originally by: Drogos The neutrality and objectivity of ex-DSMA with axes to grind comes into question.
See above.
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Marko Debreault
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Posted - 2005.01.25 19:59:00 -
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I liked the movie.
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: FoxHunt It's already established that the PBL, like the Orion Federation before it, is little more than a subset of FA itself. Since FA charges taxes and maintains that neutrals fight against Shinra or risk becoming KOS, your statements here don't hold water.
Who has established that PBL is a sub-set of FA? Where? When?
FA charges taxes... and Shinra doesn't? Since when has FA, PBL or anyone else in control of Period Basis required neutrals to fight for them? Oh wait... CFS did, never mind.
More rhetoric, more bullsh!t. I know you're rooting for Shinra, FoxHunt. That's no secret to anyone. The least you could do is attempt to keep your facts straight if you're going to be a propaganda puppet. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Drogos
Originally by: FoxHunt It's already established that the PBL, like the Orion Federation before it, is little more than a subset of FA itself. Since FA charges taxes and maintains that neutrals fight against Shinra or risk becoming KOS, your statements here don't hold water.
Who has established that PBL is a sub-set of FA? Where? When?
FA charges taxes... and Shinra doesn't? Since when has FA, PBL or anyone else in control of Period Basis required neutrals to fight for them? Oh wait... CFS did, never mind.
More rhetoric, more bullsh!t. I know you're rooting for Shinra, FoxHunt. That's no secret to anyone. The least you could do is attempt to keep your facts straight if you're going to be a propaganda puppet.
Please try harder to be clueless. FA shoots neutrals, Shinra doesnt. The former PBL shoots its mouth off and thats about it. You are done.
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Helmut 314
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Drogos
Originally by: FoxHunt It's already established that the PBL, like the Orion Federation before it, is little more than a subset of FA itself. Since FA charges taxes and maintains that neutrals fight against Shinra or risk becoming KOS, your statements here don't hold water.
Who has established that PBL is a sub-set of FA? Where? When?
FA charges taxes... and Shinra doesn't? Since when has FA, PBL or anyone else in control of Period Basis required neutrals to fight for them? Oh wait... CFS did, never mind.
More rhetoric, more bullsh!t. I know you're rooting for Shinra, FoxHunt. That's no secret to anyone. The least you could do is attempt to keep your facts straight if you're going to be a propaganda puppet.
Please try harder to be clueless. FA shoots neutrals, Shinra doesnt. The former PBL shoots its mouth off and thats about it. You are done.
Can we have an official ShinRa definition of "neutrals" please ?
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Helmut 314
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Drogos
Originally by: FoxHunt It's already established that the PBL, like the Orion Federation before it, is little more than a subset of FA itself. Since FA charges taxes and maintains that neutrals fight against Shinra or risk becoming KOS, your statements here don't hold water.
Who has established that PBL is a sub-set of FA? Where? When?
FA charges taxes... and Shinra doesn't? Since when has FA, PBL or anyone else in control of Period Basis required neutrals to fight for them? Oh wait... CFS did, never mind.
More rhetoric, more bullsh!t. I know you're rooting for Shinra, FoxHunt. That's no secret to anyone. The least you could do is attempt to keep your facts straight if you're going to be a propaganda puppet.
Please try harder to be clueless. FA shoots neutrals, Shinra doesnt. The former PBL shoots its mouth off and thats about it. You are done.
Can we have an official ShinRa definition of "neutrals" please ?
Anyone not at -10.
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Helmut 314
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:30:00 -
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-10 to who ?
You claim PBL and FA shoot neutrals. I have a hard time believing FA and Shinra have the same standings set....
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Elve Sorrow
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Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 25/01/2005 20:34:27
Originally by: Helmut 314 -10 to who ?
You claim PBL and FA shoot neutrals. I have a hard time believing FA and Shinra have the same standings set....
Take a WILD guess whose standings we mean...
HINT: We can't even see who FA have set to -10 or +10.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:35:00 -
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Drogos, I don't view Shinra any more favorably than I do anyone else that's former CA. My interest is in Period Basis alone, and I'm sure alot of ex-CFS/DSMA still see it as a homeland.
I'll take the lesser of two evils. That's it. The residents that FA now shoots at are doing the same.
I'll put it to you like this. A wise man once said that you can never change anyone's mind by telling them, you have to show them. PBL/FA have already shown the residents of PB their true colors. "If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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Fabryon
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Anyone not at -10.
That's not true. Shinra pilots shot and podded everyone they could get to, including neutrals, when they first showed up in TPAR. After being destroyed, they were told it wouldn't happen again if they NAPed with Shinra. Shinra is still doing it. Anyone that isn't set to +5 for you guys is getting destroyed. Forcing someone to agree to a NAP to avoid being podded is pretty low. You're simply trying to force everyone to ally with you. I know this for a fact; I was one of the unfortunate neutrals who got destroyed outside the TPAR station during the first weekend.
Shinra made the PBL pilots KOS before even showing up in the region, I guess because they were believed to be FA-friendly. So the definition of "puppet" seems to be someone who is friendly with a larger alliance. That would make Shinra puppets of Stain, right? |
AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 25/01/2005 20:44:43
Quote: Forcing someone to agree to a NAP to avoid being podded is pretty low
Thats war.
And yes Shinra is Stain puppets, i said that already, go a few pages back
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Fabryon
Originally by: Darkrydar
Anyone not at -10.
That's not true. Shinra pilots shot and podded everyone they could get to, including neutrals, when they first showed up in TPAR. After being destroyed, they were told it wouldn't happen again if they NAPed with Shinra. Shinra is still doing it. Anyone that isn't set to +5 for you guys is getting destroyed. Forcing someone to agree to a NAP to avoid being podded is pretty low. You're simply trying to force everyone to ally with you. I know this for a fact; I was one of the unfortunate neutrals who got destroyed outside the TPAR station during the first weekend.
Shinra made the PBL pilots KOS before even showing up in the region, I guess because they were believed to be FA-friendly. So the definition of "puppet" seems to be someone who is friendly with a larger alliance. That would make Shinra puppets of Stain, right?
And yet so convinced by this you post with an alt, just to convince us more.
GG ---------------
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Drogos on 25/01/2005 21:00:05
Originally by: Darkrydar Please try harder to be clueless.
I'll give you a chance to amend that quote, since it's laughable as it stands.
Originally by: Darkrydar You are done.
Not even close... especially when you guys keep handing me material to work with.
lmao... now we're the former PBL. I thought you didn't recognize PBL as an entity? ...or was that last page? I'm starting to lose track.
Originally by: AvanCade
Quote: Forcing someone to agree to a NAP to avoid being podded is pretty low
Thats war.
Interesting... I didn't realize you were at war with the neutral corps in Period Basis. Gotta love shotgun diplomacy. Is this the "show of true colors" you were talking about FoxHunt? -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
Fabryon
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
And yet so convinced by this you post with an alt, just to convince us more.
GG
Of course I posted with an alt. I did not agree to the deal so "generously" offered by Shinra.
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Fabryon
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Posted - 2005.01.25 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Amthrianius
And yet so convinced by this you post with an alt, just to convince us more.
GG
Of course I posted with an alt. I did not agree to the deal so "generously" offered by Shinra.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: benwallace heres some history you don't want me to bring up when I was in shinra we had a nap with glt Drogos what do you got to say about that and don't lie it was on shinra pirvate boards. we didn't shoot you unless in fleet combat and you provided t2 stuff(deals). So why should anyone belive what you have to say to shinra
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.25 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Drogos on 26/01/2005 02:34:02 Removed, as the relevant quote is no longer available. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 21:13:00 -
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So... let me ask something for argument's sake, to the newly NAP'd folks living in Period Basis.
What if FIX decided to come down and start playing games with Shinra. Attacking, taking stations, yada yada yada.
Are you going to turn on FIX, the people who watched your backs since your inception? Or are you looking to sign a NAP with any military in the region in the hopes that you'll be left to mine in peace?
On that same thread, if you guys fight against FA you're fighting against the people who spent time and energy getting you guys up and running as the PBL...
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.25 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN So... let me ask something for argument's sake, to the newly NAP'd folks living in Period Basis.
What if FIX decided to come down and start playing games with Shinra. Attacking, taking stations, yada yada yada.
Are you going to turn on FIX, the people who watched your backs since your inception? Or are you looking to sign a NAP with any military in the region in the hopes that you'll be left to mine in peace?
On that same thread, if you guys fight against FA you're fighting against the people who spent time and energy getting you guys up and running as the PBL...
Just curious about this as loyalties in PB seem to shift to whoever demands it.
Let me make some clarification here, S3vyn. To my knowledge, no PBL member corporation has accepted a NAP with Shinra. All NAP'd entities still in Period Basis are "whitelist" (agreed to abide by posted regs) neutral corporations that were never PBL members.
Just trying to make sure there is no confusion...
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Edited by: Belian on 25/01/2005 21:37:56 so ben do your know what pirvate means ? plz remove your post
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LB424
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Posted - 2005.01.25 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: LB424 on 26/01/2005 00:21:34 *edited for mistypes (thanks Pesa)* The development of Period Basis has probably been the most interesting series of events in the last year. IÆll give you a brief summary of what happened to the best of my historical knowledge.
CFS lived in Delve, Querious, and Period Basis. Most of CFS resided in PB and were content to remain there. ALL the stations of these regions were controlled by FA. Black Avatar (FA) saw the emptiness of Querious and decided to make their home there. Other corps moved into all areas and decided to make their homes there. Everyone is happy. CA decides to attack the less defended ôSouthern Frontierö in an attempt to lessen the pressure FA is applying to them in their ongoing war. Stations change hands. After a while regions stabilize again in FA hands.
QDF formed, CFS wages war, Delve claimed by FA After time the residents of Querious formed what is known as the QDF to defend themselves from pirate and CA incursions (This group will later come to be known as FIX).
The CFS has been peacefully living in period basis without a care in the world when one dayà
CA starts raiding PB in force. They wage a war in space and a war on the forums raving against the ôevilö that is FA and how FA shouldnÆt control the PB regionÆs stations. They kill all non-CA without regard. Eventually FA forces them back out of PB due to boredom and inability to defend home regions while in PB. Vocal elements in CFS believe the CA rhetoric and start chanting for war against FA to claim the stations for themselves (while I support the desire to claim the stations û the means was the most foolish display of misplaced opportunism I have ever seen). In their zeal to claim the stations they attack the Querious region sparking off a war that will wage for the next three months. FA claims the downfall of CFS/UFS, Orion Federation is invited by FA to enter the region and fight CFS for control. CFS holds a strong military force in the region forcing many an OF corporation to rethink their decision to live in the region. OF offensive collapses and departs PB. FA establishes a short duration military presence û CFS gives up their crusade against their perceived oppressors (remember û CFS and DSMA brought this upon themselves by their surprise attacks on what FA considered their property). The Period Basis Legion is formed.
PBL occupies PB PBL is formed from a small core group of corps dedicated to reviving the ideals that once made CFS great. Free space for everyone with a protective group of corporations that over watched the region to maintain peace and order. All was well for the next two months. Occasional pirate incursions as well as strikes of revenge from some former CFS/DSMA members. Relative peace reigned, while resentment simmered in the background from those corps that felt they had been spurned of their rightful home. Given time these corps could be welcomed back with open armsà but patience it not in great supply in the universe of EVE.
Shinra comes to ôliberateö PB Shinra sets out on a campaign of conquest in the PB region designed (in their words) to root out the ôevilö FA forces and bring freedom to the region. In a campaign closely mirroring the CA incursions, Shinra brings large organized military forces to PB to take and hold stations. They are joined by their comrades in arms m3g4 (I have yet to see them mentioned anywhere here. Curious is it not that such close allies are not referred to in any way?). TPAR station is captured with ease. ShinraÆs long experience and superior training have a telling effect in the opening weeks of the campaign. Shinra offers NAPs to any corp that wants to not fight them (a smart move. Looks like they learned since the last CA incursion that killing the population you want to conquer doesnÆt help your cause). FA declares all such corps are to be killed on sight (a mistake they should have learned not to make from CA û perhaps they will realize this and change their policy). Fighting wages in period Basisà.
The comments in ô(xxx)ö are my biased comments. All other info is as accurate as I can provide. I have lived in PB for coming on 8 months now through all of these events. IÆve seen people come and go.
I can tell you this: -Shinra has yet to reveal their true agenda. -They care nothing for neutrals û the only reason they donÆt shoot you is the fact that as long as you are neutral you provide minerals to the station (when they hold it) and youÆre NOT shooting them. -ShinraÆs motives are not pure in any sense. Why call in partners such as m3g4 to capture the G-Q station if they have no intention of staying? -Much like their namesake corp û Shinra has no good intentions. TheyÆre in this for themselves and only themselves (something your allies ought to keep in mind Shinra).
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LB424
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Posted - 2005.01.25 21:47:00 -
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I know some of the former CFS/DSMA pilots and others hold certain bitterness towards FA. I know some of that bitterness transfers to PBL as an alliance sponsored by FA. What I donÆt know is why any of you people could possibly believe the propaganda spewing from the talking heads of Shinra. Use your heads people. PBL isnÆt the enemy. WeÆre simply a target in the path of a military machine that cares about nothing but its own political agenda. If you want to fight with people that have a cause and believe in what theyÆre doing û fight on the side of PBL. If you want to fight with unfeeling thugs who use force to take what they want, have no thoughts or interest in building a future for their friends and allies, and kill anything that doesnÆt server their purpose û fight on the side of Shinra.
Shinra û I salute your military prowess, and I have respect for some few of your pilots that I have actually had a chance to talk to. I will not, however, let you claim this area as your new dominion when I and my comrades in arms are trying to build a state where everyone can attain their goals without fear of destruction at every star gate jump. I will fight you alone (which I have) and I will fight you en masse (if I ever have a chance), but unless you change your tune û I will fight you forever
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.01.25 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Fabryon
Originally by: Darkrydar
Anyone not at -10.
That's not true. Shinra pilots shot and podded everyone they could get to, including neutrals, when they first showed up in TPAR. After being destroyed, they were told it wouldn't happen again if they NAPed with Shinra. Shinra is still doing it. Anyone that isn't set to +5 for you guys is getting destroyed. Forcing someone to agree to a NAP to avoid being podded is pretty low. You're simply trying to force everyone to ally with you. I know this for a fact; I was one of the unfortunate neutrals who got destroyed outside the TPAR station during the first weekend.
Shinra made the PBL pilots KOS before even showing up in the region, I guess because they were believed to be FA-friendly. So the definition of "puppet" seems to be someone who is friendly with a larger alliance. That would make Shinra puppets of Stain, right?
WTF is this dude smoking. How is Shinra any different than FA. Lets see they shoot you and tell you that you need to NAP with them to continue to be in the area and you get 2% tax. FA says pay 5 million to pass through Delve or they shoot you and you have a slighty higher percentage taken from your refines. Get over your 100k-60million loss when they podded you, NAP with Shinra and mine in PB to make it back, or sit you're ass in empire making 2 million an hour. If you're going to be the type that sits under someone umbrella in EVE your only issue should be how much money am I going to make, and you'd make more Shinra in the long regardless or wether or not they podded you.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: S3VYN on 25/01/2005 22:10:30
Originally by: Dirtball
Originally by: Fabryon
Originally by: Darkrydar
Anyone not at -10.
That's not true. Shinra pilots shot and podded everyone they could get to, including neutrals, when they first showed up in TPAR. After being destroyed, they were told it wouldn't happen again if they NAPed with Shinra. Shinra is still doing it. Anyone that isn't set to +5 for you guys is getting destroyed. Forcing someone to agree to a NAP to avoid being podded is pretty low. You're simply trying to force everyone to ally with you. I know this for a fact; I was one of the unfortunate neutrals who got destroyed outside the TPAR station during the first weekend.
Shinra made the PBL pilots KOS before even showing up in the region, I guess because they were believed to be FA-friendly. So the definition of "puppet" seems to be someone who is friendly with a larger alliance. That would make Shinra puppets of Stain, right?
WTF is this dude smoking. How is Shinra any different than FA. Lets see they shoot you and tell you that you need to NAP with them to continue to be in the area and you get 2% tax. FA says pay 5 million to pass through Delve or they shoot you and you have a slighty higher percentage taken from your refines. Get over your 100k-60million loss when they podded you, NAP with Shinra and mine in PB to make it back, or sit you're ass in empire making 2 million an hour. If you're going to be the type that sits under someone umbrella in EVE your only issue should be how much money am I going to make, and you'd make more Shinra in the long regardless or wether or not they podded you.
The big difference between Shinra and FA from MY perspective (as someone who has dealt with both for a long time and in depth) is that FA prefers that the regions be "stable" regardless of who is there. Whereas Shinra traditionally chooses to "mix things up" a bit.
As an alliance or empire you pretty much always hope for stability on your borders.
FWIW - and for all those who view FA as a group who shows no quarter... if you negotiate properly you get what you want. After all, our stations used to be owned by FA and we got them back WITHOUT using force and in a mutually agreed deal that both parties were excited to execute. So don't blame others if you don't have the prowess to negotiate.
The ability to negotiate using diplomacy instead of violence is what separates an "official" from a "warlord." Shinra is made up of competent "warlords" but have yet to display an interest in becoming a diplomatic state (not saying they couldn't, they just haven't to this point).
So there's your difference. Advancing societies are generally run by "officials." Repressive societies are generally run by "warlords." ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Charlena
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Posted - 2005.01.25 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN Edited by: S3VYN on 25/01/2005 22:10:30
Originally by: Dirtball
Originally by: Fabryon
Originally by: Darkrydar
Anyone not at -10.
That's not true. Shinra pilots shot and podded everyone they could get to, including neutrals, when they first showed up in TPAR. After being destroyed, they were told it wouldn't happen again if they NAPed with Shinra. Shinra is still doing it. Anyone that isn't set to +5 for you guys is getting destroyed. Forcing someone to agree to a NAP to avoid being podded is pretty low. You're simply trying to force everyone to ally with you. I know this for a fact; I was one of the unfortunate neutrals who got destroyed outside the TPAR station during the first weekend.
Shinra made the PBL pilots KOS before even showing up in the region, I guess because they were believed to be FA-friendly. So the definition of "puppet" seems to be someone who is friendly with a larger alliance. That would make Shinra puppets of Stain, right?
WTF is this dude smoking. How is Shinra any different than FA. Lets see they shoot you and tell you that you need to NAP with them to continue to be in the area and you get 2% tax. FA says pay 5 million to pass through Delve or they shoot you and you have a slighty higher percentage taken from your refines. Get over your 100k-60million loss when they podded you, NAP with Shinra and mine in PB to make it back, or sit you're ass in empire making 2 million an hour. If you're going to be the type that sits under someone umbrella in EVE your only issue should be how much money am I going to make, and you'd make more Shinra in the long regardless or wether or not they podded you.
The big difference between Shinra and FA from MY perspective (as someone who has dealt with both for a long time and in depth) is that FA prefers that the regions be "stable" regardless of who is there. Whereas Shinra traditionally chooses to "mix things up" a bit.
As an alliance or empire you pretty much always hope for stability on your borders.
FWIW - and for all those who view FA as a group who shows no quarter... if you negotiate properly you get what you want. After all, our stations used to be owned by FA and we got them back WITHOUT using force and in a mutually agreed deal that both parties were excited to execute. So don't blame others if you don't have the prowess to negotiate.
The ability to negotiate using diplomacy instead of violence is what separates an "official" from a "warlord." Shinra is made up of competent "warlords" but have yet to display an interest in becoming a diplomatic state (not saying they couldn't, they just haven't to this point).
So there's your difference. Advancing societies are generally run by "officials." Repressive societies are generally run by "warlords."
You ever log in or are you just a forum troll with abig mouth and no balls?
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.25 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Charlena You ever log in or are you just a forum troll with abig mouth and no balls?
I could kick yer ass at probably 10 games... one of them being forum wars.
My job within FIX is to carry out diplomatic contact, negotiations and public relations. So that's what I'm here doing. I do log in and often fight. I'm not that good, however, so don't feel too good about yourself if you blow up my ship.
TBH - The way I play EVE is from a social aspect. The PVP side of EVE is entertaining but isn't ... to my liking as my primary form of play. I have other games I play for a rush. Feel free to look me up on any of them, same name (how's THAT for not hiding behind an alt ). So yeah, feel free to come blow me up sometime, but I'll hide behind my friends (and they love me because they know they don't have to read crap like what you posted and they still have their interests looked after).
So meh. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Demian Sky
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Posted - 2005.01.25 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Demian Sky on 25/01/2005 23:48:39 What gets me angry more than anything is how Fountain handled "negotiations" with the neutral corporations in Period Basis. A four year old would have done a better job. While Shinra was civil and elequent in their dealings with us, FA decided it would be cute to notify us that we were KOS AFTER blasting us to bits. And then they slam us with pathetic excuses about how we are the grandest pillar of economic support to Shinra because of their 2 percent tax. Any alliance with leadership this peevish doesn't deserve to exist. Good luck Shinra.
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Pesadilla
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Posted - 2005.01.25 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: LB424
QDF formed, CFS wages war, Delve claimed by FA After time the residents of Delve formed what is known as the QDF to defend themselves from pirate and CA incursions (This group will later come to be known as FIX).
that is why QDF stands for Querious Defense Force and not Delve Defense Force right?
Originally by: Darkrydar
Wont wont seek to charge neutrals 5M isk to travel there like FA does.
since when does FA charge 5mil to travel to PB? thats news to me
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.26 00:25:00 -
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Well IÆll try too put this 5-mill pass thing away since no one yet has got it right. Things were all peaceful and quiet in Delve, then we got a rash of intruders ganking indies. After that we started blockading systems to figure out were they were getting in from. DidnÆt take long to figure out that getting in under the guise ôfriends of PBLö or something similar.
After on consulting with FA about it, we were told all non-members of FA, PBL, QDF were to have a pass or go the fock around. As Shinra well knows, Delve is not the only way into PB.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.26 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Charlena You ever log in or are you just a forum troll with abig mouth and no balls?
I could kick yer ass at probably 10 games... one of them being forum wars.
My job within FIX is to carry out diplomatic contact, negotiations and public relations. So that's what I'm here doing. I do log in and often fight. I'm not that good, however, so don't feel too good about yourself if you blow up my ship.
TBH - The way I play EVE is from a social aspect. The PVP side of EVE is entertaining but isn't ... to my liking as my primary form of play. I have other games I play for a rush. Feel free to look me up on any of them, same name (how's THAT for not hiding behind an alt ). So yeah, feel free to come blow me up sometime, but I'll hide behind my friends (and they love me because they know they don't have to read crap like what you posted and they still have their interests looked after).
So meh.
Shinra > All (cept possibly evol) at Forum fights and PvP, face it and move on.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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FraNtik
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Posted - 2005.01.26 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: LB424 Edited by: LB424 on 26/01/2005 00:21:34 *edited for mistypes (thanks Pesa)* The development of Period Basis has probably been the most interesting series of events in the last year. IÆll give you a brief summary of what happened to the best of my historical knowledge....
I must say LB424, quite accurate. I'd been in Period Basis since the day m0o conquered TPAR and sold it to Techell (ATUK was there controlling G-Q5 factory station and protecting Techell) If I recall correctly around one year ago. After Techell left, PB was estable with CFS/DSMA operating in the region. We had some problems with C4 (CA sub-alliance) who tried to control Paragon Soul (SA region). After that it's pretty much what you described.
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2005.01.26 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Drogos
Interesting... I didn't realize you were at war with the neutral corps in Period Basis. Gotta love shotgun diplomacy. Is this the "show of true colors" you were talking about FoxHunt?
I'm hoping you actually have some sort of logic to fall back on, and not putting your entire arguement on the shoulders of a nameless alt. Shinra has a list of neutrals that have given their experiences on this board, and corps that have NAP'd with them in the hopes that they can remain neutral in any conflict until it's decided. FA would have none of it, and PBL followed suit yes?
Meanwhile, you have a neutral pilot in the minority, and he's posting with an alt at that. I understand he maybe saving himself some grief for speaking out, but others have been far braver. Find another witness, Drogos. "If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.01.26 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Drogos on 26/01/2005 02:51:27 For what little it's worth, only one formerly neutral corp is now officially KOS to PBL members. After Edison Frisk publically stated he and his corporation's intent to join Shinra in combat operations, we were left with little choice.
Originally by: FoxHunt I'm hoping you actually have some sort of logic to fall back on, and not putting your entire arguement on the shoulders of a nameless alt.
I'm not taking Fabryon's word, FoxHunt. I'm taking AvanCade's, as he tacitly implied the truth of Fabryon's post.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.26 03:11:00 -
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Edited by: S3VYN on 26/01/2005 03:11:43
Originally by: Lallante
Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Charlena You ever log in or are you just a forum troll with abig mouth and no balls?
I could kick yer ass at probably 10 games... one of them being forum wars.
My job within FIX is to carry out diplomatic contact, negotiations and public relations. So that's what I'm here doing. I do log in and often fight. I'm not that good, however, so don't feel too good about yourself if you blow up my ship.
TBH - The way I play EVE is from a social aspect. The PVP side of EVE is entertaining but isn't ... to my liking as my primary form of play. I have other games I play for a rush. Feel free to look me up on any of them, same name (how's THAT for not hiding behind an alt ). So yeah, feel free to come blow me up sometime, but I'll hide behind my friends (and they love me because they know they don't have to read crap like what you posted and they still have their interests looked after).
So meh.
Shinra > All (cept possibly evol) at Forum fights and PvP, face it and move on.
LOL! Nice reply!
Excuse me if I don't take your purely objective opinion on that particular matter as fact, though. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
FoxHunt
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Posted - 2005.01.26 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Drogos I'm not taking Fabryon's word, FoxHunt. I'm taking AvanCade's, as he tacitly implied the truth of Fabryon's post.
Can't speak for AvanCade's remark, but it sounds to me like it was made with tongue firmly in cheek. Little humor to lighten you guys up. So I'm guessing your unloading your entire arguement on this now?
And does a 5% tax still sound like a better deal to you? When it clearly doesn't go to defense of said region?
Strike two, Drogos. "If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.26 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Fabryon
Originally by: Amthrianius
And yet so convinced by this you post with an alt, just to convince us more.
GG
Of course I posted with an alt. I did not agree to the deal so "generously" offered by Shinra.
At least with BIG at TPAR, I didn't have to worry about getting podded by FA, and I did not have to NAP with them, even unofficially. The same is not true with Shinra.
Ding dong, ask how many casualties have fallen to the corporations we have a NAP with...
Wait... Wait !! I can answer that, 0 (zero) !!!
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.26 10:15:00 -
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Actually I think one of the FA pilots accidentlally self-destructed his Cap flux equipped BS in fright when one of the neutrals undocked.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2005.01.26 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Charlena You ever log in or are you just a forum troll with abig mouth and no balls?
I could kick yer ass at probably 10 games... one of them being forum wars.
My job within FIX is to carry out diplomatic contact, negotiations and public relations. So that's what I'm here doing. I do log in and often fight. I'm not that good, however, so don't feel too good about yourself if you blow up my ship.
TBH - The way I play EVE is from a social aspect. The PVP side of EVE is entertaining but isn't ... to my liking as my primary form of play. I have other games I play for a rush. Feel free to look me up on any of them, same name (how's THAT for not hiding behind an alt ). So yeah, feel free to come blow me up sometime, but I'll hide behind my friends (and they love me because they know they don't have to read crap like what you posted and they still have their interests looked after).
So meh.
Shinra > All (cept possibly evol) at Forum fights and PvP, face it and move on.
*COUGH*
Don't make me unleash the SUPRM forum warrior wing.... The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.26 10:34:00 -
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Keyboard at the ready sir! Reverend Necrona |
WildHope
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Posted - 2005.01.26 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona Keyboard at the ready sir!
/emote seaches 'FraNtik-ly' for the BIG white flag
Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations) |
Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.26 19:02:00 -
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Racecar is racecaR backwards
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.27 00:47:00 -
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thread....must.....not.....die
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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WildHope
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Posted - 2005.01.27 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante thread....must.....not.....die
Are you still planning to do those pics for Heff?
Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations) |
Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.27 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante thread....must.....not.....die
Stick a fork in this one, its done
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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.01.27 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Lallante thread....must.....not.....die
Stick a fork in this one, its done
Much like your chances of getting into FA
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.01.27 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Charlena
Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Lallante thread....must.....not.....die
Stick a fork in this one, its done
Much like your chances of getting into FA
I dunno now dude, might be possible now lots of pvp corps are leaving FA, they need some more noob flak for whats left. ---------------
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.01.27 15:13:00 -
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who started this thread btw --------------------------
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Estios
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Posted - 2005.01.27 15:17:00 -
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Honestly where did you dig this Chucky guy up from ? I think he is some AI Project someone is developing to automatically post complete and utter non-sense to the forums whilst the side he is supposedly defending are busy getting owned.
Anyways, ATUK's stats > all
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.27 15:25:00 -
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Nah, wait till our proper new killmail system (in development) is up. We can have a little ticker on each others killsite saying who is winning that week/month
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2005.01.27 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: CKOZUK
Originally by: Lallante
Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Charlena You ever log in or are you just a forum troll with abig mouth and no balls?
I could kick yer ass at probably 10 games... one of them being forum wars.
My job within FIX is to carry out diplomatic contact, negotiations and public relations. So that's what I'm here doing. I do log in and often fight. I'm not that good, however, so don't feel too good about yourself if you blow up my ship.
TBH - The way I play EVE is from a social aspect. The PVP side of EVE is entertaining but isn't ... to my liking as my primary form of play. I have other games I play for a rush. Feel free to look me up on any of them, same name (how's THAT for not hiding behind an alt ). So yeah, feel free to come blow me up sometime, but I'll hide behind my friends (and they love me because they know they don't have to read crap like what you posted and they still have their interests looked after).
So meh.
Shinra > All (cept possibly evol) at Forum fights and PvP, face it and move on.
*COUGH*
Don't make me unleash the SUPRM forum warrior wing....
Now you've gone and done it... OC had more forum *****s per capita than any other corp... now they erged with another forum ***** corp... damn you lall, damn you to hell.
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.27 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Charlena
Originally by: Chucky
Originally by: Lallante thread....must.....not.....die
Stick a fork in this one, its done
Much like your chances of getting into FA
Shows how much alts know, I've already been kicked out of FA before
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.27 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 27/01/2005 19:29:56
Originally by: Chucky
Shows how much alts know, I've already been kicked out of FA before
I thought you were an alt at first. You talk just like one. Annoying and uninformed. And usually not involved either. Then i noticed your corp name under your name.
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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Sapater
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Posted - 2005.01.27 20:08:00 -
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Maybe the devs just need to lock this thread as it seems people are just whining now and trying tpuff out their chests trying to look bigger than each other. Nothing good here anymore.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.27 20:09:00 -
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BUT ITS 20 pages all about ONE corp! It must go on :)
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Carpe Diem
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Posted - 2005.01.27 20:42:00 -
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Which corp?
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.01.27 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante BUT ITS 20 pages all about ONE corp! It must go on :)
Only 20?
I heard these sort of thread's are much maturer at 21. ---------------
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.01.27 21:27:00 -
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To the residents of PB:
Many many months ago I was a resident of Delve, member of StA. The FA propaganda made us believe CA are the bad guys without questioning. We fought them day and night, I even sacreficed sec stat to score some kills in empire. We payed the 5% refining tax without question (in the begining at least). When the talks about Shiva (Exodus) and POS' started, it was clear to FA that they wouldnt be able to claim NPC space and our homelands (Delve) were the next best region for them. Our humble fleet performed quite well against CA raiders but didnt stood much chance against the 150+ blob from FA (not to mention all the backstabing bought by FA cash, for which ironicly we paid a portion of with 5% tax). Shinra offered help which we didnt accepted as they were actually our enemies the day before. Long story short we were in deep **** and eventually lost our homelands.
This is just an example what COULD happen if you go the FA way, we trusted them till they started invading us. On the OTHER hand, I havent walked the Shinra way and dont know where it will end, that is something to be discovered by PB residents if they choose to.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.27 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming To the residents of PB:
Many many months ago I was a resident of Delve, member of StA. The FA propaganda made us believe CA are the bad guys without questioning. We fought them day and night, I even sacreficed sec stat to score some kills in empire. We payed the 5% refining tax without question (in the begining at least). When the talks about Shiva (Exodus) and POS' started, it was clear to FA that they wouldnt be able to claim NPC space and our homelands (Delve) were the next best region for them. Our humble fleet performed quite well against CA raiders but didnt stood much chance against the 150+ blob from FA (not to mention all the backstabing bought by FA cash, for which ironicly we paid a portion of with 5% tax). Shinra offered help which we didnt accepted as they were actually our enemies the day before. Long story short we were in deep **** and eventually lost our homelands.
This is just an example what COULD happen if you go the FA way, we trusted them till they started invading us. On the OTHER hand, I havent walked the Shinra way and dont know where it will end, that is something to be discovered by PB residents if they choose to.
Nicely worded post. But I wasn't aware that FA invaded CFS space. My understanding (and I was there, but maybe you're talking about something else) was that DSMA raided Querious (which has since been confirmed that this was planned AND intentional), then a week later CFS went to raid PB and Delve but were stopped in Querious. From there everything went south between the UFS (CFS, StA, DSMA) folks, the FA folks and the FIX (then QDF) folks.
It's possible I missed something though... I was away from the keyboard for nearly 3 minutes during that time. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Kunming
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Posted - 2005.01.27 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN Nicely worded post. But I wasn't aware that FA invaded CFS space. My understanding (and I was there, but maybe you're talking about something else) was that DSMA raided Querious (which has since been confirmed that this was planned AND intentional), then a week later CFS went to raid PB and Delve but were stopped in Querious. From there everything went south between the UFS (CFS, StA, DSMA) folks, the FA folks and the FIX (then QDF) folks.
It's possible I missed something though... I was away from the keyboard for nearly 3 minutes during that time.
FYI UFS was formed to combine military forces against common enemies/invaders (in the begining against CA raiders); CFS, StA and DSMA were never true allies that worked in harmony. Also StA never raided or took offensive action against neighbouring regions yet they were the first to get attacked by FA. Today when you look on the map, PB and Querious are controled by diffrent alliances while Delve is under FA souvereignty full of FA POS. Don't get me wrong I'm not pro-Shinra, just dont like seeing innocent folks getting ****** by power politics.
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Avernus
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming
Originally by: S3VYN Nicely worded post. But I wasn't aware that FA invaded CFS space. My understanding (and I was there, but maybe you're talking about something else) was that DSMA raided Querious (which has since been confirmed that this was planned AND intentional), then a week later CFS went to raid PB and Delve but were stopped in Querious. From there everything went south between the UFS (CFS, StA, DSMA) folks, the FA folks and the FIX (then QDF) folks.
It's possible I missed something though... I was away from the keyboard for nearly 3 minutes during that time.
FYI UFS was formed to combine military forces against common enemies/invaders (in the begining against CA raiders); CFS, StA and DSMA were never true allies that worked in harmony. Also StA never raided or took offensive action against neighbouring regions yet they were the first to get attacked by FA. Today when you look on the map, PB and Querious are controled by diffrent alliances while Delve is under FA souvereignty full of FA POS. Don't get me wrong I'm not pro-Shinra, just dont like seeing innocent folks getting ****** by power politics.
FWIW, when DSMA did do it's raid on Querious; StA and CFS were completely unaware of it. People in StA and CFS actually thought we were making stuff up to justify our own actions when we released that information after the war started. By the same token, QDF had assumed that StA and CFS must have known about the DSMA raid.
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Seinar Dragmire
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:44:00 -
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Edited by: Seinar Dragmire on 27/01/2005 23:44:42
Originally by: Lallante BUT ITS 20 pages all about ONE corp! It must go on :)
/me starts singing
Cuz its the topic that never ends...it goes on and on my freind...some people...started posting in it and more followed....and then we got everyone in eve posting in it becaus ethis is the topic that never ends....it goes on and on my freind...(/me keeps sining song indefinatly)
common guys...join in the singalong!!
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Cyran0
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Posted - 2005.01.28 09:04:00 -
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...28 january yet another battle lost by Shinra these days. ShinraFrapsMan Cuuut! this story will not have a happy end for you, this is clear. UNLESS someone around will save your a55. Finally i see that your propaganda stoped, you realised that you look ridiculous and cheap like behaviour of some Shinra smacktalkers in Tpar's local channel. Lallante, pls, send your kids to school!
http://shinra.sgnonline.com/sigs/cyrano.jpg When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite |
Monkey Time
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Posted - 2005.01.28 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cyran0 ...28 january yet another battle lost by Shinra these days. ShinraFrapsMan Cuuut! this story will not have a happy end for you, this is clear. UNLESS someone around will save your a55. Finally i see that your propaganda stoped, you realised that you look ridiculous and cheap like behaviour of some Shinra smacktalkers in Tpar's local channel. Lallante, pls, send your kids to school!
Now think about your post and rewrite it so everyone can understand what it is you are trying to say, please.
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Smith
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Posted - 2005.01.28 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cyran0 ...28 january yet another battle lost by Shinra these days. ShinraFrapsMan Cuuut! this story will not have a happy end for you, this is clear. UNLESS someone around will save your a55. Finally i see that your propaganda stoped, you realised that you look ridiculous and cheap like behaviour of some Shinra smacktalkers in Tpar's local channel. Lallante, pls, send your kids to school!
Hey that sounds like a good idea. Call in a couple favours and hey presto your numbers advantage wont save you anymore. Thanks for opening your mouth.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.28 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 28/01/2005 09:50:53 Edited by: Chowdown on 28/01/2005 09:49:30
Originally by: Cyran0 ...28 january yet another battle lost by Shinra these days. ShinraFrapsMan Cuuut! this story will not have a happy end for you, this is clear. UNLESS someone around will save your a55. Finally i see that your propaganda stoped, you realised that you look ridiculous and cheap like behaviour of some Shinra smacktalkers in Tpar's local channel. Lallante, pls, send your kids to school!
Ohh please, save our ass, PBL have so far called in both FA and FIX, to deal with one corporation. You have one engagement in which the losses are equal, and we are massively outnumbered and you start singing and dancing on the forums like some holiday drunk.
I'm sorry that your frustration at not being allowed to talk in local is spilling over onto the boards. How ever you post with all the class and wit of a school child I would suggest that you fly your ship to the middle of that huge inter alliance blob and hope for the best. Fact of the matter must be plainly clear to you, if you read the rest of these forums, those FA pilots which are filling out your numbers are not going to be there for much longer. Further more the FA members which are currently hatching a plan to leave FA before things get to hot, and attempt to claim PB, tough luck, you too have no way out.
Sorry fellas but its back to pator for you lot, nice attempt at 0.0 living.
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2005.01.28 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 28/01/2005 09:49:30
Originally by: Cyran0 ...28 january yet another battle lost by Shinra these days. ShinraFrapsMan Cuuut! this story will not have a happy end for you, this is clear. UNLESS someone around will save your a55. Finally i see that your propaganda stoped, you realised that you look ridiculous and cheap like behaviour of some Shinra smacktalkers in Tpar's local channel. Lallante, pls, send your kids to school!
Ohh please, save our ass, PBL have so far called in both FA and FIX, to deal with one corporation. You have one engagement in which the losses are equal, and we are massively outnumbered and you start singing and dancing on the forums like some holiday drunk.
I'm sorry that your frustration at not being allowed to talk in local is spilling over onto the boards. How ever you post with all the class and wit of a school child I would suggest that you fly your ship to the middle of that huge inter alliance blob and hope for the best. Fact of the matter must be plainly clear to you if you read the rest of these forums, those FA pilots which are filling out your numbers are not going to be there for much longer. Further more the FA members which are currently hatching a plan to leave FA before things get to hot, and attempt to claim PB, tough luck, you too have no way out.
Sorry fellas but its back to pator for you lot, nice attempt at 0.0 living.
Look Mom Cyran0 just got pwned by Chow
The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.28 10:26:00 -
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To be fair, a fight with even losses IS a bity shoddy by us considering our ratio for this campaign is between 8 and 10 : 1
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2005.01.28 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: CKOZUK on 28/01/2005 10:30:23 Everybody has bad days now and then Im waiting for ours so all the little nubs can room to the forums and go OMG OMG we pwned SUPRM and friends we killed more than they killed us for the first time. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.01.28 10:30:00 -
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/me grins
Yeah, shame on you. *chuckles*
LastI heard when the engagement was going in, Shinra was outnumbered around 2:1, did that signicantly change?
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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DrPhil
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Posted - 2005.01.28 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cyran0 ...28 january yet another battle lost by Shinra these days. ShinraFrapsMan Cuuut! this story will not have a happy end for you, this is clear. UNLESS someone around will save your a55. Finally i see that your propaganda stoped, you realised that you look ridiculous and cheap like behaviour of some Shinra smacktalkers in Tpar's local channel. Lallante, pls, send your kids to school!
The fight in PB did go quite well for PBL yesterday but it appears that you are returning the smack talk you encountered in local with smack talk here, please PBL members, there is no need for us to talk smack back to Shinra.
I have to admit to being perplexed as to why ShinRa attacked PB still. I know they dislike FA and we (PBL) are on good terms with them and that they were involved in setting up our alliance. If ShinRa is really anti-fa then attacking PB would not seem to be the best choice. I presume you attacked PBL as it is a new alliance trying to find its feet and as such you perceived it as being a weak and easy target? The locals (to my knowledge) on the whole seemed quite happy with the situation we were trying to build. You say that you had evemails of support - I would be suprised if many of those came from the people who were currently residing in PB.
To say you are trying to open PB up for neutrals and free us from our FA oppressors seems a strange comment to make. PBL has strived very hard to keep PB open to any non pirate corp. We have never charged 5 mill (or anything for that matter) for neutrals to enter PB so I am not sure where you are obtaining your (incorrect) information from. Then you refer to PBL as the axis of evil - we have always aimed to keep PB open and free to all non pirate corps and that makes us evil? I see this invasion purely as an attempt to destabalize the region. From your claims the locals believe you have no intention of staying after the war is over, which leads me back to my original thoughts that the only purpose of this is to disrupt the region and try and destroy our fledging alliance. Either that or you have some hidden agenda (which I consider highly probable), and part of that agenda requires you to try and remove the PBL members from there. But please do not claim you are doing this for the locals as I don't see how anyone can believe that - the locals have never asked for this invasion and they definitely do not want you to destabalize the region. Whatever your true motivations are - please do us the courtesy of giving a plausible reason for the invasion (where you give the true reason or not) - the reasons that I have seen stated in this thread just don't seem to hold water.
What I find most shocking of all though was that a ShinRa member somewhere above refered to PBL as being a pirate Alliance, I know there may be a propaganda war going on, but please, that is so absurd it is almost laughable - PBL is trying to achieve the exact opposite and keep pirates out. Also I have seen no accounts of any pirating by PBL members.
I do think that FA are wrong to put neutral corps who have NAP's with shinra onto a KOS list, this will only turn them againgst FA and PBL and I strongly urge them to reconsider this. PBL, by the way, have not put any nuetrals onto the KOS list apart from one corp I believe who have stated that they will aid ShinRa. ShinRa are now attempting to not shoot neutrals which is something I respect, but, previously, they have a notorious history for attacking neutrals and anyone who was not in CA. They were regarded by the locals as a pirate corp whose aim was to disrupt any operations whether that be FA, PBL, CFS, SSOF or neutrals - if they weren't CA then attack them. So I would advise neutrals to be cautious with regards to ShinRa - they *might* keep their word but from past experiences I would stay vigilant.
I was also hopeful that DSMA members could return back to PB before too long and be welcomed back with open arms, but it appears that there is still resentment harbored (by both sides) which I find to be a shame as, even thought I fought againgst DSMA, I harbored no ill will towards them as I considered them to also be locals. I look forward to the time when all the people who consider PB to be their home try to reconcile their differences and fight to keep invaders like ShinRa out.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.28 11:12:00 -
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Quote: ShinRa are now attempting to not shoot neutrals which is something I respect, but, previously, they have a notorious history for attacking neutrals and anyone who was not in CA.
Note, we are not CA anymore, CA is dead, we arent.
And in fact, we are helping you, CA made FIX what they are now. I cant say they lack PVP experience, but hey, who gave em that experience.
Once (if) Shinra leaves, PBL will be stronger en more united then ever. THink about it.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.28 11:14:00 -
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Screw everything Ive previously said. We are here to take your women.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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nub spy
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Posted - 2005.01.28 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante To be fair, a fight with even losses IS a bity shoddy by us considering our ratio for this campaign is between 8 and 10 : 1
shinra mathematics: kill 1 bs and lose 10 bs = even losses.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.28 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Quote: ShinRa are now attempting to not shoot neutrals which is something I respect, but, previously, they have a notorious history for attacking neutrals and anyone who was not in CA.
Note, we are not CA anymore, CA is dead, we arent.
And in fact, we are helping you, CA made FIX what they are now. I cant say they lack PVP experience, but hey, who gave em that experience.
Once (if) Shinra leaves, PBL will be stronger en more united then ever. THink about it.
Unfortunatley though Avan PBl when they tried to stand on there own lasted 3 engagements and around 12 hours. Subsequent to that they have called in all the kings horses and all the kings men. However nothing is gonna be able to put PBL back together again.
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DrPhil
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Posted - 2005.01.28 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: DrPhil on 28/01/2005 11:53:28
Originally by: AvanCade
Quote: ShinRa are now attempting to not shoot neutrals which is something I respect, but, previously, they have a notorious history for attacking neutrals and anyone who was not in CA.
Note, we are not CA anymore, CA is dead, we arent.
And in fact, we are helping you, CA made FIX what they are now. I cant say they lack PVP experience, but hey, who gave em that experience.
Once (if) Shinra leaves, PBL will be stronger en more united then ever. THink about it.
Yes I am aware ShinRa are no longer [edit - Add CA here], I was referring to the time you were in CA and shot anyone who was not in CA, maybe you have changed your ways...only time will tell.
I do agree with your point that if ShinRa leaves it will most likely make us a stronger, more experienced alliance due to the "practice" we have had with you guys. I, however, am not sure why you would wish to do this. My understanding is that you dislike FA and would want a way to get at FA, this aggression may in fact prove to unite PBL and FA closer, rather than split them apart which I thought might have been your intention?
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.28 11:54:00 -
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Actually Avan is wrong. We wont make you stronger, we will end you.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.28 12:09:00 -
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Quote: Yes I am aware ShinRa are no longer [edit - Add CA here], I was referring to the time you were in CA and shot anyone who was not in CA, maybe you have changed your ways...only time will tell.
Alliance Politics.
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2005.01.28 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown
You have one engagement in which the losses are equal, and we are massively outnumbered and you start singing and dancing on the forums like some holiday drunk.
The FA led gang consisted of 24-25 battleship and ~10 support craft. The shinra dominant force attacking the station had 27 battleships, a feckload of drones all deployed, and several support craft, granted not all were shinra, a few were from m3g4 and some others. So much for 'massively outnumbered', so much for who is being drunk and have a total lack of grip on the reality.
As for losses, we have 10 verified shinra&co BS kills and ~5 support craft, while we infact lost one (was me) armageddon and 5~6 support craft. Equal probably if you look at support craft only but that's hardly what matters, don't you all think. While there is a distinct possibility we do have more kills or losses to be accounted for, it does not at all change the fact that you guys fled hard, were pursued and trampled untill you finally fled out of system.
You might also notice the near total lack of posts of this before you decided to continue your denial legacy/burden/whatever from good old ca. Luckily, kill mails > denial, so this one is for FA&co both ingame and on the forums.
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Damion
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Posted - 2005.01.28 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 28/01/2005 09:50:53 Edited by: Chowdown on 28/01/2005 09:49:30
Originally by: Cyran0 ...28 january yet another battle lost by Shinra these days. ShinraFrapsMan Cuuut! this story will not have a happy end for you, this is clear. UNLESS someone around will save your a55. Finally i see that your propaganda stoped, you realised that you look ridiculous and cheap like behaviour of some Shinra smacktalkers in Tpar's local channel. Lallante, pls, send your kids to school!
Ohh please, save our ass, PBL have so far called in both FA and FIX, to deal with one corporation. You have one engagement in which the losses are equal, and we are massively outnumbered and you start singing and dancing on the forums like some holiday drunk.
I'm sorry that your frustration at not being allowed to talk in local is spilling over onto the boards. How ever you post with all the class and wit of a school child I would suggest that you fly your ship to the middle of that huge inter alliance blob and hope for the best. Fact of the matter must be plainly clear to you, if you read the rest of these forums, those FA pilots which are filling out your numbers are not going to be there for much longer. Further more the FA members which are currently hatching a plan to leave FA before things get to hot, and attempt to claim PB, tough luck, you too have no way out.
Sorry fellas but its back to pator for you lot, nice attempt at 0.0 living.
something tells me you just smack here and in local cause the fight was even and you where on the loosing side all 3 of the encounters.
first when we engaged you at station , second when we engaged you when you ran from station , third when we engaged you when you ran from system.
and we had multiple bship kills in first encounter , a couple at second , and one at third.
we lost two bships and soem support ships at first encounter and none later.
http://81.169.130.42/sfh.php?f=7203ee2dea1bb8f218140bd2b3b3ff7b&name=sfh.gif
the most important was that the fight was lagg free and it was great fun with even numbers. (even tho you had all your drones out)
you are always complaining about outnumbering so i guess we had to do something with that so you also got a fair fight.
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Monkey Time
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Posted - 2005.01.28 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: StoreSlem
Originally by: Chowdown
You have one engagement in which the losses are equal, and we are massively outnumbered and you start singing and dancing on the forums like some holiday drunk.
The FA led gang consisted of 24-25 battleship and ~10 support craft. The shinra dominant force attacking the station had 27 battleships, a feckload of drones all deployed, and several support craft, granted not all were shinra, a few were from m3g4 and some others. So much for 'massively outnumbered', so much for who is being drunk and have a total lack of grip on the reality.
As for losses, we have 10 verified shinra&co BS kills and ~5 support craft, while we infact lost one (was me) armageddon and 5~6 support craft. Equal probably if you look at support craft only but that's hardly what matters, don't you all think. While there is a distinct possibility we do have more kills or losses to be accounted for, it does not at all change the fact that you guys fled hard, were pursued and trampled untill you finally fled out of system.
You might also notice the near total lack of posts of this before you decided to continue your denial legacy/burden/whatever from good old ca. Luckily, kill mails > denial, so this one is for FA&co both ingame and on the forums.
well done. you beat us once. welcome to the game. its fun, isnt it?
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Monkey Time
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Posted - 2005.01.28 13:56:00 -
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Quote:
you are always complaining about outnumbering so i guess we had to do something with that so you also got a fair fight.
you misunderstand. we arent complaining at all. its fact they will normally fight outnumbered.
sure, things have been a bit rocky this week, but it isnt over yet ;)
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.28 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: StoreSlem
Originally by: Chowdown
You have one engagement in which the losses are equal, and we are massively outnumbered and you start singing and dancing on the forums like some holiday drunk.
The FA led gang consisted of 24-25 battleship and ~10 support craft. The shinra dominant force attacking the station had 27 battleships, a feckload of drones all deployed, and several support craft, granted not all were shinra, a few were from m3g4 and some others. So much for 'massively outnumbered', so much for who is being drunk and have a total lack of grip on the reality.
As for losses, we have 10 verified shinra&co BS kills and ~5 support craft, while we infact lost one (was me) armageddon and 5~6 support craft. Equal probably if you look at support craft only but that's hardly what matters, don't you all think. While there is a distinct possibility we do have more kills or losses to be accounted for, it does not at all change the fact that you guys fled hard, were pursued and trampled untill you finally fled out of system.
You might also notice the near total lack of posts of this before you decided to continue your denial legacy/burden/whatever from good old ca. Luckily, kill mails > denial, so this one is for FA&co both ingame and on the forums.
ROFL. Screen shots and kill mails please. Host the kill mails, do not make everyone have to scroll through them on the boards.
You know the difference between our posts and yours, ours are factual accounts.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.28 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: StoreSlem
Originally by: Chowdown
You have one engagement in which the losses are equal, and we are massively outnumbered and you start singing and dancing on the forums like some holiday drunk.
The FA led gang consisted of 24-25 battleship and ~10 support craft. The shinra dominant force attacking the station had 27 battleships, a feckload of drones all deployed, and several support craft, granted not all were shinra, a few were from m3g4 and some others. So much for 'massively outnumbered', so much for who is being drunk and have a total lack of grip on the reality.
As for losses, we have 10 verified shinra&co BS kills and ~5 support craft, while we infact lost one (was me) armageddon and 5~6 support craft. Equal probably if you look at support craft only but that's hardly what matters, don't you all think. While there is a distinct possibility we do have more kills or losses to be accounted for, it does not at all change the fact that you guys fled hard, were pursued and trampled untill you finally fled out of system.
You might also notice the near total lack of posts of this before you decided to continue your denial legacy/burden/whatever from good old ca. Luckily, kill mails > denial, so this one is for FA&co both ingame and on the forums.
Im pretty sure we dont actually HAVE that many BS pilots in TPAR at the moment, let alone logged on all at once.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Nathan Voughn
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming FYI UFS was formed to combine military forces against common enemies/invaders (in the begining against CA raiders); CFS, StA and DSMA were never true allies that worked in harmony. Also StA never raided or took offensive action against neighbouring regions yet they were the first to get attacked by FA. Today when you look on the map, PB and Querious are controled by diffrent alliances while Delve is under FA souvereignty full of FA POS. Don't get me wrong I'm not pro-Shinra, just dont like seeing innocent folks getting ****** by power politics.
History leasson needed? CFS told StA that it is ok to attack the delve station as FA had agreed to hand it over to CFS. Which ofc was just nonesense. We notified the attackers that by the agreement between FA and CFS, FA is declared station owner... you choose to ignore it. The result was that you faced our defence fleets and got flushed.
CA gave you a lot verbal support, gogo kill FA and stuff like that, but in the end, they watched you dieing.
I might also remind you that you guys obviously didnt do that well agianst CA either, because you kept requesting, sorry, demanding our ships to defend your assets and mining operations. Why ask for help if you did fight so well everyday?
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Nathan Voughn
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Monkey Time
Quote:
you are always complaining about outnumbering so i guess we had to do something with that so you also got a fair fight.
you misunderstand. we arent complaining at all. its fact they will normally fight outnumbered.
sure, things have been a bit rocky this week, but it isnt over yet ;)
would be disapointing if it would be over allready... so lets have some more fun down here, shall we?
Good luck
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: StoreSlem on 28/01/2005 15:30:56
Originally by: Chowdown
ROFL. Screen shots and kill mails please. Host the kill mails, do not make everyone have to scroll through them on the boards.
You know the difference between our posts and yours, ours are factual accounts.
Our fleet warping in - 20 battleships and 7 support craft
Three minutes into battle At this point we have 18 battleships and 4 support, Shinra & co have 17 battleships and 2 support. By then shinra + m3g4 already lost three battleships.
Kill mails may be added here later, untill then use this list as a reference: baytt(apoc) , pazuzzu(arma) , Thor ibanez (apoc), Elve Sorrow(scorp) , amstaffu(scorp), Tansien (Apoc), Atrezzo Pox (Apoc),wolfman (raven), AvanCade (raven), Reclaimer (jaguar), tastin (coercer), Albus (BlackBird), Pegas (megathron), Synthesia (catalyst), Euee (crusader)
Also the PBL killboard includes some of the kills.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:34:00 -
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From Eve-Kills.com & our insurance records. (losses: accurate, kills, possibly underestimated)
Number of BS kills for last 20 days: 123 Number of BS losses for same period: 17
Damn, youve gone and spoiled our ratio :(
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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nub spy
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:35:00 -
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hey chowdown.......... maybe you should tell your slaves (corpmembers) to post their deaths before you open your mouth
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Screw everything Ive previously said. We are here to take your women.
I got dibs on Lallantes corpse
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:51:00 -
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Look mom, im on a photo ! (on the image i did make it out btw (armor tanked :p)).
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.28 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 28/01/2005 16:07:52
Originally by: StoreSlem At this point we have 18 battleships and 4 support, Shinra & co have 17 battleships and 2 support. By then shinra + m3g4 already lost three attleships.
So let me get this straight the 27 BS you suggest we had earlier was a typo or a lie?
Lets also be honest AvanCade (raven), amstaffu(scorp)and baytt(apoc). Were all ganks you picked up after are intial engagement, in which we lost 6 BS, although I am dubious about pegas dying in the fight, but then you retreated despite outnumbering us.
Lets face it fella's 3 more BS kills in the fleet engagement and a couple of ganks afterwoulds is hardly a crushing defeat. Considering we had to sit out in space to tempt you out of your hidy hole despite the fact you outnumbered us. I could bring up some stats of previous engagements, but we have class.
xx
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Chows Flamealt
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: nub spy hey chowdown.......... maybe you should tell your slaves (corpmembers) to post their deaths before you open your mouth
The words of an alt sit so heavy on my heart.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:09:00 -
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Period Basis isnt gonna be Argentina.
Thats mostly directed at Xanadu.
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DeMundus
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Screw everything Ive previously said. We are here to take your women.
I said it all along... but nooo iam just a capo;)
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Von Kretschmer
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: StoreSlem
The FA led gang consisted of 24-25 battleship and ~10 support craft. The shinra dominant force attacking the station had 27 battleships,
How come the screenie shows 44 in gang chat? what were the other 17 doing?
Originally by: StoreSlem
As for losses, we have 10 verified shinra&co BS kills and ~5 support craft, while we infact lost one (was me) armageddon and 5~6 support craft.
Just checked the PBL kill board and there are 5 BS kills there (from this engagement), so where are the others?
It was a good fight and I think that your fleet got the better of it, but one battle does not win a war.
See you in Tpar
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Damion
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Posted - 2005.01.28 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Damion on 28/01/2005 17:29:39
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 28/01/2005 16:07:52
Originally by: StoreSlem At this point we have 18 battleships and 4 support, Shinra & co have 17 battleships and 2 support. By then shinra + m3g4 already lost three attleships.
So let me get this straight the 27 BS you suggest we had earlier was a typo or a lie?
Lets also be honest AvanCade (raven), amstaffu(scorp)and baytt(apoc). Were all ganks you picked up after are intial engagement, in which we lost 6 BS, although I am dubious about pegas dying in the fight, but then you retreated despite outnumbering us.
Lets face it fella's 3 more BS kills in the fleet engagement and a couple of ganks afterwoulds is hardly a crushing defeat. Considering we had to sit out in space to tempt you out of your hidy hole despite the fact you outnumbered us. I could bring up some stats of previous engagements, but we have class.
xx
you saying that you have class = priceless :D
did you get the Safespot of of anyone last night considering you where convoing everyone in the gang to buy it ?
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:03:00 -
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Shinra for once (and I freely admit that its the exception) you got a *severe* trashing at roughly equal numbers.
At least have the cojunes to admit that - It's afterall, as you say, just one battle - Not the war.
And I would also appriciate if you would instruct your pilots to not use the cheap 'convo in the middle of combat' trick.
I immediatly got 4 of those when we warped in the first time - I really thought Shinra was above that. Really low guys (you know who you are).
(I deliberatly do not have autoreject on for various reasons - One beeing to 'identify' cheap scum like that) BIG Lottery
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Von Kretschmer
Originally by: StoreSlem
The FA led gang consisted of 24-25 battleship and ~10 support craft. The shinra dominant force attacking the station had 27 battleships,
How come the screenie shows 44 in gang chat? what were the other 17 doing?
Originally by: StoreSlem
As for losses, we have 10 verified shinra&co BS kills and ~5 support craft, while we infact lost one (was me) armageddon and 5~6 support craft.
Just checked the PBL kill board and there are 5 BS kills there (from this engagement), so where are the others?
It was a good fight and I think that your fleet got the better of it, but one battle does not win a war.
See you in Tpar
Of the 44 people in gang we didn't really have much more than the people on the screenie participate in the first engagement. Several were docked and some were out of system. Some were at a retreat safe with medic ships. It's also not entirely unlikely that a few were not completely aligned and missed the gang warp by some seconds.
Of the 27 ships that were originally pounding the station one of you warped to look for our fleet once we entered your scanners, 3 was shot dead and several more warped out because of focus fire or panic. Remember that the battle screenshot was taken 2-3 minutes into the fight (look at the timestamps on the 2 screenshots).
Also the PBL killboard is as I said not complete, for the obvious reason it is a PBL killboard and not a FA killboard. Many of the pilots sitting with killmails are FA people without any routine to post kills there, or indeed without any knowledge of it whatsoever. But alas, it's the only public killboard with information on that battle, so I posted it incase anyone would find it of interest.
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Shredder
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:14:00 -
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Yup, we had a bad day of it, good fight, heard we lost about 7 battleships during the fight, 4 lost during the main battle, 4 killed, then a furthur 3-4 before or after. (wasn't there myself though).
As for the convo thing, we certainly don't condone such behaviour, I hope it doesnt happen again.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:19:00 -
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For a significant plot twist, please turn to page 23. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Simon Adebisi
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN For a significant plot twist, please turn to page 23.
ZOMG
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN For a significant plot twist, please turn to page 23.
Let me guess... Due to a significant fairybunny force, FA, FIX and Shinra are forced to a NAP to tackle this impressive force together?
/Elve
New Video out! Watch me!
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Beatrice
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:34:00 -
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Ahh it seems fountain's empire is crumbling. I really fail to see why Fountain ever sought to expand beyond its region's boders. It is so blessed with resources that it could easily support twice its current population with room to spare. But with empire comes ego, and the risk of making enemies intent on destroying you entirely. Fountain itself would be very difficult to kill, requiring months of lockdown and vigilance. This is one reason Venal, Curse, and Stain have always been so difficult to wage war in. Unconquerable stations.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Shinra for once (and I freely admit that its the exception) you got a *severe* trashing at roughly equal numbers.
At least have the cojunes to admit that - It's afterall, as you say, just one battle - Not the war.
And I would also appriciate if you would instruct your pilots to not use the cheap 'convo in the middle of combat' trick.
I immediatly got 4 of those when we warped in the first time - I really thought Shinra was above that. Really low guys (you know who you are).
(I deliberatly do not have autoreject on for various reasons - One beeing to 'identify' cheap scum like that)
Please send me the 4 names ingame, and I will look into the matter.
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2005.01.28 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Guderian
Originally by: TornSoul Shinra for once (and I freely admit that its the exception) you got a *severe* trashing at roughly equal numbers.
At least have the cojunes to admit that - It's afterall, as you say, just one battle - Not the war.
And I would also appriciate if you would instruct your pilots to not use the cheap 'convo in the middle of combat' trick.
I immediatly got 4 of those when we warped in the first time - I really thought Shinra was above that. Really low guys (you know who you are).
(I deliberatly do not have autoreject on for various reasons - One beeing to 'identify' cheap scum like that)
Please send me the 4 names ingame, and I will look into the matter.
And I will happily line 'em up and pod 'em
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Von Kretschmer
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Posted - 2005.01.28 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: StoreSlem
Of the 44 people in gang we didn't really have much more than the people on the screenie participate in the first engagement. Several were docked and some were out of system. Some were at a retreat safe with medic ships. It's also not entirely unlikely that a few were not completely aligned and missed the gang warp by some seconds.
Of the 27 ships that were originally pounding the station one of you warped to look for our fleet once we entered your scanners, 3 was shot dead and several more warped out because of focus fire or panic. Remember that the battle screenshot was taken 2-3 minutes into the fight (look at the timestamps on the 2 screenshots).
Also the PBL killboard is as I said not complete, for the obvious reason it is a PBL killboard and not a FA killboard. Many of the pilots sitting with killmails are FA people without any routine to post kills there, or indeed without any knowledge of it whatsoever. But alas, it's the only public killboard with information on that battle, so I posted it incase anyone would find it of interest.
Thanks for the reply. I certainly found it interesting and it is always useful to get the other perspective of a battle.
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LB424
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Posted - 2005.01.28 18:46:00 -
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FWIW I've been fighting Shinra in PB since they arrived and I've only had the convo thing happen once. The likely cause is probably the use of the single click wheel menu rather than actual intent to cause mid-combat distraction. Tornsoul, being a popular target likely attracked a flurry of single click target attempts which, naturally, would result in multiple convo attempts. By all means investigate the matter, but don't immediately assume they've resorted to cheap tricks all of a sudden.
Shinra - I'm not defending you, I'm happy to see your ships go pop, but in the interests of a balanced conflict I wanted to throw that scenario out there.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.01.28 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: S3VYN on 28/01/2005 18:53:15
Originally by: S3VYN For a significant plot twist, please turn to page 23.
I was just trying to keep people from bailing out on page 22 so they'd get more great info, relevant to the subject of the thread. Geez... can't I just joke around?
I wasn't incenuating anything. I wasn't insulting anyone. I wasn't trying to demean any corporation or alliance. I was just trying to make some people laugh who are getting pretty heated in recent threads.
And we're on page 23! W00T W00T!
So about that plot twist, here we go...
After years of research Caldari scientists in the Period Basis region who were provided a refining facility by Shinra corporation have uncovered some shocking evidence that points to the following breathrough theory:
Cats and dogs do not get along.
This has led the scientists to pondering outside-the-box arguments to find that:
Squirrels and badgers are the true enemy of mankind.
Their discoveries are seemingly meaningful to the recent political temperment of the area, as squirrels and badgers have been seen attacking dogs and cats while cats and badgers have been seen chasing squirrels. More to come as the Shinra supported scientists uncover more universal secrets. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.28 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Shinra for once (and I freely admit that its the exception) you got a *severe* trashing at roughly equal numbers.
At least have the cojunes to admit that - It's afterall, as you say, just one battle - Not the war.
And I would also appriciate if you would instruct your pilots to not use the cheap 'convo in the middle of combat' trick.
I immediatly got 4 of those when we warped in the first time - I really thought Shinra was above that. Really low guys (you know who you are).
(I deliberatly do not have autoreject on for various reasons - One beeing to 'identify' cheap scum like that)
Intolerable if true
Evemail Names please.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.01.28 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: LB424 FWIW I've been fighting Shinra in PB since they arrived and I've only had the convo thing happen once. The likely cause is probably the use of the single click wheel menu rather than actual intent to cause mid-combat distraction. Tornsoul, being a popular target likely attracked a flurry of single click target attempts which, naturally, would result in multiple convo attempts. By all means investigate the matter, but don't immediately assume they've resorted to cheap tricks all of a sudden.
Shinra - I'm not defending you, I'm happy to see your ships go pop, but in the interests of a balanced conflict I wanted to throw that scenario out there.
For that scenario to be true - You would expect at least twice (or more) as many to have succesfully targetted me.
This was not the case.
I was more or less left alone (much to my surprice and pleasure - Bit of a waste of my setup though.. oh well..) - In other words - I was not called as primary (at least not for shooting at).
So while I agree, your scenerio bears mentioning (and could have been true), the lack of pilots targetting me renders it invalid (sadly).
And I'll EVE-mail you Guderian BIG Lottery
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.28 19:41:00 -
[444]
Originally by: LB424 FWIW I've been fighting Shinra in PB since they arrived and I've only had the convo thing happen once. The likely cause is probably the use of the single click wheel menu rather than actual intent to cause mid-combat distraction. Tornsoul, being a popular target likely attracked a flurry of single click target attempts which, naturally, would result in multiple convo attempts. By all means investigate the matter, but don't immediately assume they've resorted to cheap tricks all of a sudden.
Shinra - I'm not defending you, I'm happy to see your ships go pop, but in the interests of a balanced conflict I wanted to throw that scenario out there.
TY for presenting that scenario. At no point did I call torn soul. Very few pilots in Shinra fire at people they just feel like shooting at. I would be shocked and appalled if what torn soul said is true. Suffice to say this matter is being looked into.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.29 02:09:00 -
[445]
Its bull**** or badly designed buttons, There are no advantages to be gained by Convoing someone who isnt even the target so why would anyone do it on purpose?
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Mechanix
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Posted - 2005.01.29 02:19:00 -
[446]
OMG 23 pages DIE THREAD DIE!!
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.01.29 04:57:00 -
[447]
Originally by: Nathan Voughn
History leasson needed? CFS told StA that it is ok to attack the delve station as FA had agreed to hand it over to CFS. Which ofc was just nonesense. We notified the attackers that by the agreement between FA and CFS, FA is declared station owner... you choose to ignore it. The result was that you faced our defence fleets and got flushed.
So thats the reason why you sent your fleet and start attacking StA before even 1 shot was fired. FA is not the only one that has informants, StA was well aware of the intentions of FA, we responded on your assault by taking the stations. On a side note CFS had never any control over StA's internal or external politics.
Originally by: Nathan Voughn
CA gave you a lot verbal support, gogo kill FA and stuff like that, but in the end, they watched you dieing.
Yes CA gave "verbal support" as you said, but as stated before Shinra offered help which we did not accepted.
Originally by: Nathan Voughn
I might also remind you that you guys obviously didnt do that well agianst CA either, because you kept requesting, sorry, demanding our ships to defend your assets and mining operations. Why ask for help if you did fight so well everyday?
No one from StA ever asked FA to protect any kind of operation. As for assets, as far as I remember the stations were YOUR assets and when CA took the stations WE fought to take them back just for you to send 1 ship to take back control, while we were still paying 5% tax. This was unacceptable, and all we asked was FA to protect their own stations with their own ships (or at least assist) when the need arissed.
Also I still dont understand why FA tries to make a good public face, its not like you need to impress someone with your goodwill. Why dont you say "You were a puny little alliance and we kicked you out so we can have a piece of 0.0 space which we can decorate with nice lil FA dots", we can all live with that, but no more lies pls, all of us had a rich dosis of it.
Anyway Mr Voughn, I'm sure you have more important matters at hand (especially these days) rather than bothering with such smacktastic topics.
Have a nice day, see you in space.
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.01.29 05:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nebba Kenezzer on 29/01/2005 05:54:59
Just wanted to add that FIX/FA/PBL have an unusual attraction to the "Block" command & "Unblock" command.
Very professional, indeed.
Dead babies.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.29 11:09:00 -
[449]
Edited by: AvanCade on 29/01/2005 11:19:03 It was more like:
Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block Unblock Block
If you count correctly, it was 19 times. Screenie
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Ray McCormack
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Posted - 2005.01.29 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante Its bull**** or badly designed buttons, There are no advantages to be gained by Convoing someone who isnt even the target so why would anyone do it on purpose?
In the Esc menu in-game, under the Generic menu, select Expand Action Menu With Middle-MouseButton, instead of With Left-MouseButton. That should avoid any and all complications in the future.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.01.29 11:52:00 -
[451]
FA sux..shinra pwns..
end of thread now?
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JaegerX
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Posted - 2005.01.29 12:16:00 -
[452]
Not so fast Max...
I just want to say how great a job Shinra is doing. It seems to me that they are many times more honorable than either FA or FIX. At least they don't pretend to be something they are not.
Keep up the good work Shinra. I hope I get the chance to fight alongside you.
p.s Have you considered reforming CFS as a core corp?
Regards, JaegerX
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.01.29 12:37:00 -
[453]
Originally by: TornSoul
And I would also appriciate if you would instruct your pilots to not use the cheap 'convo in the middle of combat' trick.
I immediatly got 4 of those when we warped in the first time - I really thought Shinra was above that. Really low guys (you know who you are).
(I deliberatly do not have autoreject on for various reasons - One beeing to 'identify' cheap scum like that)
If you think Shinra pilots are doing this, we would really appreciate you telling us who did this so we can punish them appropriately. Shinra will not tolerate such actions from its own members. Bear in mind though that the start convo option is in the left-click pop-up GUI and people have been making the mistake of selecting it by accident. -------------------------
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.29 14:51:00 -
[454]
Originally by: JaegerX Not so fast Max...
I just want to say how great a job Shinra is doing. It seems to me that they are many times more honorable than either FA or FIX. At least they don't pretend to be something they are not.
Keep up the good work Shinra. I hope I get the chance to fight alongside you.
p.s Have you considered reforming CFS as a core corp?
Regards, JaegerX
Is it up to us to make an alliance we will not be part of ?
Second, i think all ex-CFS corps found a new home already ;)
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.29 14:51:00 -
[455]
How much money will people bet that FA wont be helping FIX with SE :)
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.01.29 15:26:00 -
[456]
I call factory station!
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.29 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante How much money will people bet that FA wont be helping FIX with SE :)
They cant. MASS does not have issues with FA (so they say). So if FA helps, FA will be the one declaring war.
So basicly i put all my assets on that FA won't help.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.01.29 17:16:00 -
[458]
it isnt just mass u know...others in se are attacking too...
only a matter of time until official
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.29 18:22:00 -
[459]
Originally by: Lallante How much money will people bet that FA wont be helping FIX with SE :)
They haven't asked to my knowledge, I wonder why?
Perhabs they want all SE's women for themselves
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Avernus
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Posted - 2005.01.30 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante How much money will people bet that FA wont be helping FIX with SE :)
How much money would you bet that FIX hasn't asked for help?
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Conmen
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Posted - 2005.01.30 09:18:00 -
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i am a *****a jack box type of guys tbh woot
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.30 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Lallante How much money will people bet that FA wont be helping FIX with SE :)
How much money would you bet that FIX hasn't asked for help?
How much you want to bet that you will need it ?
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2005.01.30 20:49:00 -
[463]
who owns tpar station now?
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2005.01.30 21:28:00 -
[464]
Ratfink you slacker, just log on to TS ;)
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.30 22:39:00 -
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Some other thing worth mentioning, Donny, scorp pilot and resident (former resident ?) of Period Basis, logged off while being scrambled with 9points. Resulting in dissapearing.
If you dont want to die, get back in ur apoc and do some mining. PVP means dieing, getting a new ship, to die again !
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.01.31 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Some other thing worth mentioning, Donny, scorp pilot and resident (former resident ?) of Period Basis, logged off while being scrambled with 9points. Resulting in dissapearing.
If you dont want to die, get back in ur apoc and do some mining. PVP means dieing, getting a new ship, to die again !
Gee, kinda reminds me of what Shinra did when they were pinned between 2 blobs, but I guess it's ok when you guys log off to avoid getting killed cause such special little girlies
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 02:05:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 31/01/2005 02:06:33 There is a difference, i bet the Shinra fleet didn't get scrambled by 9pt did they. This guy did it to save his ship. Which is utterly lame.
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Shinra Insurance
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Posted - 2005.01.31 03:00:00 -
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I have really got to commend the pilots of Shinra and the pilots of our foes for being so honorable throughout the entirety of this post.
It is simply amazing this thread has lasted 20+ pages without a lock.
Great job, guys!
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.01.31 04:18:00 -
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Edited by: TornSoul on 31/01/2005 04:19:07
Originally by: AvanCade Some other thing worth mentioning, Donny, scorp pilot and resident (former resident ?) of Period Basis, logged off while being scrambled with 9points. Resulting in dissapearing.
If you dont want to die, get back in ur apoc and do some mining. PVP means dieing, getting a new ship, to die again !
I suggest you have a word with Bulles (I think thats the right spelling) and ask him his views on that. He dont seem to mind.
He jumped through a gate 1-2 days ago (in an arma if I recall), camped by 8-9 of our guys, so he was basically dead meat. Upon realizing this Bulles suddenly disappeared from local....
So get of your high horse.
(I would not normally bother to post this (and havent until now), as one ship more or less really doestn matter, but if theres one thing I cant stand its hypocracy) BIG Lottery
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fghr
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Posted - 2005.01.31 04:24:00 -
[470]
Originally by: AvanCade Edited by: AvanCade on 31/01/2005 02:06:33 There is a difference, i bet the Shinra fleet didn't get scrambled by 9pt did they. This guy did it to save his ship. Which is utterly lame.
and you did not offcorse you did stopp think your special you aint
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Lady Salvation
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Posted - 2005.01.31 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Edited by: TornSoul on 31/01/2005 04:19:07
Originally by: AvanCade Some other thing worth mentioning, Donny, scorp pilot and resident (former resident ?) of Period Basis, logged off while being scrambled with 9points. Resulting in dissapearing.
If you dont want to die, get back in ur apoc and do some mining. PVP means dieing, getting a new ship, to die again !
I suggest you have a word with Bulles (I think thats the right spelling) and ask him his views on that. He dont seem to mind.
He jumped through a gate 1-2 days ago (in an arma if I recall), camped by 8-9 of our guys, so he was basically dead meat. Upon realizing this Bulles suddenly disappeared from local....
So get of your high horse.
(I would not normally bother to post this (and havent until now), as one ship more or less really doestn matter, but if theres one thing I cant stand its hypocracy)
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Pirata Furciferous
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Posted - 2005.01.31 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Edited by: TornSoul on 31/01/2005 04:19:07
Originally by: AvanCade Some other thing worth mentioning, Donny, scorp pilot and resident (former resident ?) of Period Basis, logged off while being scrambled with 9points. Resulting in dissapearing.
If you dont want to die, get back in ur apoc and do some mining. PVP means dieing, getting a new ship, to die again !
I suggest you have a word with Bulles (I think thats the right spelling) and ask him his views on that. He dont seem to mind.
He jumped through a gate 1-2 days ago (in an arma if I recall), camped by 8-9 of our guys, so he was basically dead meat. Upon realizing this Bulles suddenly disappeared from local....
So get of your high horse.
(I would not normally bother to post this (and havent until now), as one ship more or less really doestn matter, but if theres one thing I cant stand its hypocracy)
Maybe Bulles (member of Rheiland, whose bio reads member of PBL, friend of fix/fa) logged out because he didn't like his allies shooting at him? And I fail to see what his logging has to do with Shinra. |
Xeris
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Posted - 2005.01.31 04:32:00 -
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Yes, there is no one in Shinra named Bulles, nor a pilot whose name is remotely close to that.
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2005.01.31 04:39:00 -
[474]
I'll ask around and see if I can dig up the name (as stated, it was some days ago, and its from memory)
But it was definatly a Shinra (not m3ga, not phantom, not..)
We left the gate, and some minutes later he popped into local again - We where otherwise engaged, so couldnt jump back to the the gate and try to catch him a 2nd time.
And it was definatly not a friendly, those tend to have a nice blue icon next to them BIG Lottery
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fghr
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Posted - 2005.01.31 04:40:00 -
[475]
still dosent mather tho when you loged out betvean 2 blobs you did that to save your ships dont say anything else that is just silly.
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2005.01.31 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: fghr still dosent mather tho when you loged out betvean 2 blobs you did that to save your ships dont say anything else that is just silly.
Or maybe because it's just boring?
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fghr
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Posted - 2005.01.31 05:06:00 -
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so you can complain and think peps is noobs cos they log but you aint cos you loged do i understand that right ?
also if it was boring why dident you attack i tell you why you dident want to lose your ship
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.01.31 09:14:00 -
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Sure, sure, Torn.
Well, I'll give you some accurate information seeing as how you are lacking in that arena today.
Tegar, a member of your corporation, blatantly logged last night in fear of danger in MGO. 1 battleship stood in his way to jump into TPAR, and he failed to rush the gate.
It wasn't until he logged that I jumped into TPAR, only to see him back in local.
Needless to say, your corp mates were pretty ineffective when it came to dealing with it:
[ 2005.01.31 02:28:10 ] shambley > me dealing wid it hang on [ 2005.01.31 02:29:01 ] shambley > nebba u didnt scramble the gate to a noobie to pvp did u? [ 2005.01.31 02:29:44 ] shambley > neb more info u didnt sorry to ask [ 2005.01.31 02:31:08 ] Nebba Kenezzer > excuse me? [ 2005.01.31 02:31:37 ] shambley > member logged wen jump said next system and still takin hits I apoligise for accusation :-) [ 2005.01.31 02:32:05 ] shambley > and yes i do feel like a ***** :-)
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 09:36:00 -
[479]
Logging is not a bad thing at all, but i think its bad to use it when there is no way out (9pt scramble on you, scorp only 4 low slots, so no way out).
At that moment its extremely lame to log off. You will never catch me doing this.
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ikke
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Posted - 2005.01.31 10:38:00 -
[480]
Edited by: ikke on 31/01/2005 10:39:26 No logging is lame period.
i have not logged not even when i was shorlty part of PBL where i was on the opposing side of Shinra.
i just sit there and take the beating and get myself a new ship/pod.
you can ask demundes he was there to witness it in the past.
( hmm crap first charc is always first in the list for selecting charc to post with so this should be Ilmonstre)
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2005.01.31 11:15:00 -
[481]
Originally by: AvanCade Logging is not a bad thing at all, but i think its bad to use it when there is no way out (9pt scramble on you, scorp only 4 low slots, so no way out).
At that moment its extremely lame to log off. You will never catch me doing this.
Well, the other way around is pretty lame too. Having a covert opps patrolling the area and all log-in at the same time when somebody's near.... In my opinion all these log-on/log-off tactics are lame, just log-in and fight. Don't stay logged-off till you know you can win/kill, or log-off when you're attacked.
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Donny
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Posted - 2005.01.31 11:47:00 -
[482]
AvanCade: What the hell? I didn't log off when scrambled. I was in the fight, and when all my gang fellows had died or warped off, I went for the stargate. There were some shinra there trying to warp scramble me, but I jammed one and got away to another planet. I warped to another point & logged off. No use waiting for anyone to come & destroy my ship, is there?
So I don't know where you got the idea I logged off while being scrambled.
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.01.31 12:09:00 -
[483]
Because you were at a planet at the time you were being scrambled. When you log off, you get warped 1 mil km in a random direction. So naturally, the fact you hadn't warped off yet by the time we arrived and scrambled you, we assumed that you had logged off as we were trying to kill you. -------------------------
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 12:44:00 -
[484]
Originally by: Ange1 Because you were at a planet at the time you were being scrambled. When you log off, you get warped 1 mil km in a random direction. So naturally, the fact you hadn't warped off yet by the time we arrived and scrambled you, we assumed that you had logged off as we were trying to kill you.
You assumed wrong I guess. When you log off at a planet you might get warped away. But in this case Donny logged off mid-warp from one planet to another, and apparently the game still puts put him on the warp destination (the planet). Had he continued playing he would have continued to get away like he did the first time.. I think it's perfectly cool though to log off when not having any hostiles near you (as - within 1000km). I mean, it's a game, one should have the right to stop playing it when one so chooses.
And as an afterthought, Shinra is the last corp that should argue about the ethics of logging on or off, they are quite skilled at logging in simultaniously into an ongoing skirmish.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.01.31 13:11:00 -
[485]
Originally by: Jack Ryan
And as an afterthought, Shinra is the last corp that should argue about the ethics of logging on or off, they are quite skilled at logging in simultaniously into an ongoing skirmish.
Dude if you bring 4 times the numbers to engage us what do you expect us to do? Sit in a safe spot and bore both your and our guys into quitting eve? We are doing you a favour by logging off, it teaches you a valueable lesson inj the numerics of pvp. As for syncd logins, what can I say when the BFV server becomes stale we come and play eve. This is what is commonly called team work, try it.
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 13:24:00 -
[486]
Originally by: Chowdown Dude if you bring 4 times the numbers to engage us what do you expect us to do? Sit in a safe spot and bore both your and our guys into quitting eve? We are doing you a favour by logging off, it teaches you a valueable lesson inj the numerics of pvp. As for syncd logins, what can I say when the BFV server becomes stale we come and play eve. This is what is commonly called team work, try it.
I wasn't talking about you guys logging off was I? Nope, not this dude. I am amazed though that you aren't even bothering to deny synching logins.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.01.31 13:36:00 -
[487]
we have NEVER EVER used a login trap, any claim to the contrary is complete ass talking. We might well sync logins, but we arnt logging in to combat, we have just said "go take a break, be back at 20:00 ready to roll). Ther is not one single example where we have all logged in and imediately (or even within 5 mins) warped into combat. To claim otherwise is to lie.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:03:00 -
[488]
Originally by: Lallante we have NEVER EVER used a login trap, any claim to the contrary is complete ass talking. ... To claim otherwise is to lie.
Ok, well let's just say you're innocent until proven guilty. Now I know you'll say this is ass talking but I'm really missing the point of synced logins? Please explain to me why one should synch logging in?
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:33:00 -
[489]
Edited by: Lord Draco on 31/01/2005 14:35:17
Originally by: TornSoul Edited by: TornSoul on 31/01/2005 04:19:07
Originally by: AvanCade Some other thing worth mentioning, Donny, scorp pilot and resident (former resident ?) of Period Basis, logged off while being scrambled with 9points. Resulting in dissapearing.
If you dont want to die, get back in ur apoc and do some mining. PVP means dieing, getting a new ship, to die again !
I suggest you have a word with Bulles (I think thats the right spelling) and ask him his views on that. He dont seem to mind.
He jumped through a gate 1-2 days ago (in an arma if I recall), camped by 8-9 of our guys, so he was basically dead meat. Upon realizing this Bulles suddenly disappeared from local....
So get of your high horse.
(I would not normally bother to post this (and havent until now), as one ship more or less really doestn matter, but if theres one thing I cant stand its hypocracy)
This sounds a lot like your convo accusation. When asked for names, you provided one, non-Shinra pilot who was neither in gang or involved in our ops. Sorry, but you have no credibility.
BTW, bulles is the guy who blocked/unblocked (spam) us prior to a fight. Do what you do best and go get a CCP spawned ship for your scam.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:54:00 -
[490]
Originally by: Donny AvanCade: What the hell? I didn't log off when scrambled. I was in the fight, and when all my gang fellows had died or warped off, I went for the stargate. There were some shinra there trying to warp scramble me, but I jammed one and got away to another planet. I warped to another point & logged off. No use waiting for anyone to come & destroy my ship, is there?
So I don't know where you got the idea I logged off while being scrambled.
Your ship was not even moving towards any direction. And claiming to have logged before we got there is wrong, there would be no way we would be able to put 9 points on you.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:57:00 -
[491]
And i can tell for a fact that we do not use login traps. My squads (CA timeperk)(have not been that many) asked me to use the login trap to get a couple of Stain guys. I refused ofcourse. Aside from that i refuse to participate at any login trap set by any commander or person.
I know 99% of my fellow corpmembers agree with me here.
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:12:00 -
[492]
Originally by: AvanCade Your ship was not even moving towards any direction. And claiming to have logged before we got there is wrong, there would be no way we would be able to put 9 points on you.
recap : He logged in mid warp, HENCE he logged before you got there. What part is it exactly that you don't get?
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:14:00 -
[493]
Originally by: AvanCade Your ship was not even moving towards any direction. And claiming to have logged before we got there is wrong, there would be no way we would be able to put 9 points on you.
If you log in warp, it's possible your ship continues to warp to the planet. If the ship is at the planet you can shoot/scramble it while the pilot is already logged-off. Also explains why his ship wasn't moving anymore ;)
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:15:00 -
[494]
Ok lets see,
* i was almost in warp to a planet * received word of a scorp at planet 4 * cancelled warp * warp to planet 4 * arrive at planet 4 * fly 20km * lock and scramble scorpion
Now if that ISNT enough time for a scorp to warp out, then nothing is.
He logged while scrambled period.
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:22:00 -
[495]
Yeah, its bull****. I have him in my buddy list and he logged after getting scrambled.
Try another excuse please.
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:24:00 -
[496]
Originally by: AvanCade Ok lets see,
* i was almost in warp to a planet * received word of a scorp at planet 4 * cancelled warp * warp to planet 4 * arrive at planet 4 * fly 20km * lock and scramble scorpion
Now if that ISNT enough time for a scorp to warp out, then nothing is.
He logged while scrambled period.
Forum discussions 101: if all else fails make an unnumbered list.
like Greenwing said, just above your clever post, if you log off in mid-warp; chances are your ship still arrives at the planet, even though you are logged off.. Jeez.
He didn't log while scrambled. I guess you just can't deal with being wrong. Get over it.
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:30:00 -
[497]
Originally by: AvanCade Ok lets see,
* i was almost in warp to a planet * received word of a scorp at planet 4 * cancelled warp * warp to planet 4 * arrive at planet 4 * fly 20km * lock and scramble scorpion
Now if that ISNT enough time for a scorp to warp out, then nothing is.
He logged while scrambled period.
Srry, but i can't imagine somebody who is being followed by a larger group waiting at a planet (not a moon or ss, but a planet !) to get shot ?? Don't forget that when you log USUALLY your ship warps away, but i've seen several times after loggin the ship stays at the same place. I've even once had an indy killed 5 minutes after i logged in an empty system, at a ss where i left it (and nobody had fired upon me the last 30 minutes)
The fact the scorp could have jumped away easily is the part which makes me think he really was logged off already.
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Jack Ryan
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:33:00 -
[498]
Thanks Greenwing, but I fear common sense is wasted upon these guys.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:34:00 -
[499]
L o a d
o f
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Donny
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:45:00 -
[500]
sheesh, all this talk about me... I logged off when no-one was around. I don't know what my ship did after that. If you guys tried to gang******it, that's necrophilia and that's dirty.
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WildHope
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Posted - 2005.01.31 15:54:00 -
[501]
I haven't been the most active in-game recently, but:
Who da hell are ISL?
Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations) |
Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.01.31 16:00:00 -
[502]
well you guys can flame all you like, I am just so happy that this thread is still alive, it must be one of the longest around
viva la period basis residents! death to the FA infidel!! (just to get us back on topic ;-))
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Tansien
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Posted - 2005.01.31 17:15:00 -
[503]
Originally by: Greenwing If you log in warp, it's possible your ship continues to warp to the planet. If the ship is at the planet you can shoot/scramble it while the pilot is already logged-off. Also explains why his ship wasn't moving anymore ;)
Here, we have Greenwing saying Donny logged out during warp.
Originally by: Donny sheesh, all this talk about me... I logged off when no-one was around. I don't know what my ship did after that. If you guys tried to gang******it, that's necrophilia and that's dirty.
Here, we have Donny saying he logged off at the planet with noone around
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 17:36:00 -
[504]
Originally by: Tansien
Originally by: Greenwing If you log in warp, it's possible your ship continues to warp to the planet. If the ship is at the planet you can shoot/scramble it while the pilot is already logged-off. Also explains why his ship wasn't moving anymore ;)
Here, we have Greenwing saying Donny logged out during warp.
Originally by: Donny sheesh, all this talk about me... I logged off when no-one was around. I don't know what my ship did after that. If you guys tried to gang******it, that's necrophilia and that's dirty.
Here, we have Donny saying he logged off at the planet with noone around
Now Donny we've got fraps of it so stop lying about it, you logged off while being warp scrambled.
pwnd
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Donny
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:26:00 -
[505]
Just take a deep breath and read it again.
Here's what I said:
Originally by: Donny I logged off when no-one was around.
And this is what you make of it to prove your case:
Originally by: Tansien Here, we have Donny saying he logged off at the planet with noone around
You make planets. The mice want your resume.
I logged off in mid-warp. And even-though it's theoretically possible one of your corp buddies was in my warp bubble, I can assure you there wasn't.
And if you want your credibility even further destroyed, allow me to point out that Greenway didn't say I logged off during warp. He only explained what can happen when someone does. He wasn't around when I did. No-one was.
You see how it all makes sense now?
Come to think of it, I don't think the mice will want to see you anymore.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:33:00 -
[506]
Indeed they dont want to see us anymore, they do something i refer as "Doing a Donny".
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Fangtooth
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:36:00 -
[507]
Well, as i predicted, it has all come true,
now were just waiting on SE to come up with some lame excuse for attacking FA.
Hmmmm
/me Ponders
there are still a few ace cards to be played yet, and this thread is not dead
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:40:00 -
[508]
No, thats FA's job. SE pack their bags and just move in, they dont need a lame excuse.
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Cpt Max
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:50:00 -
[509]
Edited by: Cpt Max on 31/01/2005 18:51:42
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:53:00 -
[510]
Ding dong, have you checked SE allies ? Apart from Xetic they all hate FA, what allie should turn their back on SE ? Xetic won't, they are SE's lill brother, a lill brother i never had.
Oh and call the firedepartment, im on fire
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:55:00 -
[511]
Hey you, dont edit when i reply, no fair.
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Fangtooth
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:59:00 -
[512]
:p
i was too fast on the last post
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.01.31 19:03:00 -
[513]
Edited by: Lord Draco on 01/02/2005 01:23:18 To all the ex-residents of Period Basis, you choose poorly. There will be no quarter givin.
To all the ppl like SUX corp (fitting name btw) enjoy being the band playing on the Titanic. No amount of false bravado can save you from the choices you made. No quarter will be given to you either.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.01 01:08:00 -
[514]
This thread still isnt ready to meet the reaper yet
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Stevo
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Posted - 2005.02.01 04:32:00 -
[515]
Yea its getting really long........
- WAR IS NOT ABOUT WHO IS RIGHT, BUT WHO IS LEFT -
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Goa'en
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Posted - 2005.02.01 08:49:00 -
[516]
Edited by: Goa'en on 01/02/2005 08:50:33 ok donny boy im gonna upload the fraps tonight when i get home from work im not gonna say enyting more i will let the fraps talk for it self
Cu in space
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.02.01 09:00:00 -
[517]
Originally by: Lallante This thread still isnt ready to meet the reaper yet
Unfortunatley it is time for this thread to die. The last remnants of FA resistance are returning to defend there homelands, and the remaining threat is gurellia at best. Good fight to all involved stay tuned PB will be open for business soon.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.02.01 16:17:00 -
[518]
As intel suggested the FA fleet retreated to Delve directly after downtime. PB is now open again to all corporations exiled by FA.
However if you cannot make arrangements to get through the Warzone that is Delve and Querious, I suggest you do not attempt it. To the residents which fought us to the end, this is the end by the way, now is your last chance to lay down your arms. If you choose the other path unfortunatley PB will not be your home any longer.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.01 16:25:00 -
[519]
owned :)
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2005.02.01 18:44:00 -
[520]
IBTL!! God, someone please post a new thread, this one holds the record!
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.02.01 19:24:00 -
[521]
This thread chronicles step one.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.02 03:19:00 -
[522]
Step one : See pages 1 - 26
Step two : .................
Step three: PROFIT!
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.02.02 03:21:00 -
[523]
Wasn't there a plot twist back on page 23? ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
benwallace
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Posted - 2005.02.02 03:33:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Chowdown PB is now open again to all corporations exiled by FA.
chow I have to ask I was exiled by fa after I took there station .. a couple of times so do I fit in that catogoery
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.02 03:38:00 -
[525]
Yes but by open he means, tell us you want to come first :P
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Iznogud
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Posted - 2005.02.02 05:59:00 -
[526]
Edited by: Iznogud on 02/02/2005 05:58:44
Originally by: Lallante Yes but by open he means, tell us you want to come first :P
Dont forget Ceo of BSI are Kos to some of us in SNRA
http://www.shinra.com/ Shinra Republic Artillery-round deliver Izno~
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Jeebs
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Posted - 2005.02.02 09:07:00 -
[527]
Originally by: LB424 FWIW I've been fighting Shinra in PB since they arrived and I've only had the convo thing happen once. The likely cause is probably the use of the single click wheel menu rather than actual intent to cause mid-combat distraction. Tornsoul, being a popular target likely attracked a flurry of single click target attempts which, naturally, would result in multiple convo attempts. By all means investigate the matter, but don't immediately assume they've resorted to cheap tricks all of a sudden.
Shinra - I'm not defending you, I'm happy to see your ships go pop, but in the interests of a balanced conflict I wanted to throw that scenario out there.
Contrary to popular belief, our target calling doesn't involve a fleet commander or any specific target caller. Rather the pilots name in the enemy fleet are selected numerically ascending by a recursive computational procedure involving the checksums generated by the enemy pilots names. TornSoul turned out to be something like Z5xY7Z3 which happens to be last on the list :/
(\_/) (x.x) (> <) This was Bunny. Kill Bunny and stop him from achieving world domination. |
Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.02 10:11:00 -
[528]
Yeah, I remember, we didnt target Tornsould for direct fire, but his name WAS called for a dos attack. wierd.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.02.02 14:17:00 -
[529]
Originally by: Iznogud Edited by: Iznogud on 02/02/2005 05:58:44
Originally by: Lallante Yes but by open he means, tell us you want to come first :P
Dont forget Ceo of BSI are Kos to some of us in SNRA
lol np --------------------------
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2005.02.02 18:59:00 -
[530]
Originally by: Iznogud Edited by: Iznogud on 02/02/2005 05:58:44
Originally by: Lallante Yes but by open he means, tell us you want to come first :P
Dont forget Ceo of BSI are Kos to some of us in SNRA
lol.. man.. Your so funny. After how long is it now.. 11 months, your still annoyed... and knowone can figure out why.. Ahh drop it already. ---------------------------
CEO: Black Sea Industries
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.02.02 19:11:00 -
[531]
kat so many people hate u, dont u ever think maybe its not them, its you?
j/k my firned ;)
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2005.02.02 19:15:00 -
[532]
lol's ;) ppl hate me, cos i hated FA back in Period Basis. Nah Izno's issue with somethin else, none political ;p. He dosnt wanna sort it out either.. *shrugs* What can i do :p ---------------------------
CEO: Black Sea Industries
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.03 00:49:00 -
[533]
corptheft, no further comment.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Jesilys
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Posted - 2005.02.03 00:56:00 -
[534]
Post: Eleventy Billion?
"Teach, your alts well, their unskilled hell, will slowly go by..." |
Siddy
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Posted - 2005.02.03 01:00:00 -
[535]
so what wit happen with PB, FA can bearly defend they boarder not to speak helpping Fix from SE or protekting TPAR-G ... -------------------------------------------
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.03 05:56:00 -
[536]
FA pulled out of PBL, we caught and destroyed several BS doing so. Most PBL (if not all) members are now FA-Trialist. Quiet times ahead for PB region, as the pipe is clogged.
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berge
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Posted - 2005.02.03 13:36:00 -
[537]
stop telling lies avancade. there is no FA trial in PBL. and PBL members didn't retreat from PB. have patience my friend
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.03 13:47:00 -
[538]
Right so Sux Corp, Dark Knights of Denab etc wernt all PBL a week ago and now FA trial?
my mistake :P
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Rajof
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Posted - 2005.02.03 13:51:00 -
[539]
Does this mean I can't come down to PB and kill PBL?
Damn you shinra, damn u to hell!!!!
Look like i'm on my way to fountain then ---|||--- A Saint till I Die |
s1mon4
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Posted - 2005.02.03 14:11:00 -
[540]
Originally by: AvanCade FA pulled out of PBL, we caught and destroyed several BS doing so. Most PBL (if not all) members are now FA-Trialist. Quiet times ahead for PB region, as the pipe is clogged.
Strategic retreat is the retreat of tropes to a relay point where the defense is more easily; until you have again the necessary force to push back, the enemy... is just a simple rule in warfare. Maybe you people have won this battle but do not full your self about the war is still far from being over and one thing I can promise you we will make the live of new ô neutral corpsö from PB a living hell, lets see if u guys can mine because no one will mine for youà.
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Activor Faust
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Posted - 2005.02.03 14:15:00 -
[541]
Originally by: berge stop telling lies avancade. there is no FA trial in PBL. and PBL members didn't retreat from PB. have patience my friend
Yep it's true "There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
AF
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.03 14:22:00 -
[542]
Quote:
Strategic retreat is the retreat of tropes to a relay point where the defense is more easily; until you have again the necessary force to push back, the enemy... is just a simple rule in warfare. Maybe you people have won this battle but do not full your self about the war is still far from being over and one thing I can promise you we will make the live of new ô neutral corpsö from PB a living hell, lets see if u guys can mine because no one will mine for youà.
Nice strategic retreat into BoB :)
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Activor Faust
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Posted - 2005.02.03 14:24:00 -
[543]
Edited by: Activor Faust on 03/02/2005 14:26:02
Originally by: Lallante
Nice strategic retreat into BoB :)
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Awalance
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Posted - 2005.02.03 14:28:00 -
[544]
Originally by: s1mon4
Originally by: AvanCade FA pulled out of PBL, we caught and destroyed several BS doing so. Most PBL (if not all) members are now FA-Trialist. Quiet times ahead for PB region, as the pipe is clogged.
Strategic retreat is the retreat of tropes to a relay point where the defense is more easily; until you have again the necessary force to push back, the enemy... is just a simple rule in warfare. Maybe you people have won this battle but do not full your self about the war is still far from being over and one thing I can promise you we will make the live of new ô neutral corpsö from PB a living hell, lets see if u guys can mine because no one will mine for youà.
yep like ****** in 1945 when russians tanks was in berlin and he still beleve in Victory and an alliance with americans against russian .... ------------------------
after you die ,and all peoples who knows you die also ..its like you never exist |
Chucky
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Posted - 2005.02.03 15:52:00 -
[545]
I didn't know Shinra was Germen, should have guessed
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.02.03 16:13:00 -
[546]
Originally by: berge stop telling lies avancade. there is no FA trial in PBL. and PBL members didn't retreat from PB. have patience my friend
Talking tough from Agil I see.
No FA trail members in PBL? Dude, you're joking right? You cant possibly be this clueless can you. Or, is it just denial because those other corps got tickets on the Titanic and you didnt?
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.02.03 16:15:00 -
[547]
Originally by: Chucky I didn't know Shinra was Germen, should have guessed
Du haben einen kleinen Schwanz.
'nuff said.
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2005.02.03 18:57:00 -
[548]
Edited by: Katya Detia on 03/02/2005 19:02:28
Originally by: Lallante corptheft, no further comment.
And what exactly would you know of this? The word of 2 ppl that we didnt get along with that happend to join Shinra. Even Phantoms say that its not true, the corp these 2 say i took stuff from.. so go figure. ---------------------------
CEO: Black Sea Industries
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Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.03 20:16:00 -
[549]
Corp theif.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Drogos
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Posted - 2005.02.03 21:05:00 -
[550]
Originally by: Rajof Does this mean I can't come down to PB and kill PBL?
Damn you shinra, damn u to hell!!!!
Look like i'm on my way to fountain then
/me waves to Rajof.
C'mon down Rajof... we're still here, and we'd love to see your smiling face. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated. -Sun Tzu |
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Iznogud
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Posted - 2005.02.04 17:12:00 -
[551]
Edited by: Iznogud on 04/02/2005 17:14:17
Originally by: Katya Detia lol's ;) ppl hate me, cos i hated FA back in Period Basis. Nah Izno's issue with somethin else, none political ;p. He dosnt wanna sort it out either.. *shrugs* What can i do :p
Stay KOS
http://www.shinra.com/ Shinra Republic Artillery-round deliver Izno~
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.02.04 17:48:00 -
[552]
Originally by: Iznogud Edited by: Iznogud on 04/02/2005 17:14:17
Originally by: Katya Detia lol's ;) ppl hate me, cos i hated FA back in Period Basis. Nah Izno's issue with somethin else, none political ;p. He dosnt wanna sort it out either.. *shrugs* What can i do :p
Stay KOS
http://www.shinra.com/
That... is... great. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Jeebs
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Posted - 2005.02.08 08:16:00 -
[553]
Originally by: s1mon4
Originally by: AvanCade FA pulled out of PBL, we caught and destroyed several BS doing so. Most PBL (if not all) members are now FA-Trialist. Quiet times ahead for PB region, as the pipe is clogged.
Strategic retreat is the retreat of tropes to a relay point where the defense is more easily; until you have again the necessary force to push back, the enemy... is just a simple rule in warfare. Maybe you people have won this battle but do not full your self about the war is still far from being over and one thing I can promise you we will make the live of new ô neutral corpsö from PB a living hell, lets see if u guys can mine because no one will mine for youà.
i find it interesting that the release of the latest map and cessation of posts to this thread coincide.
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.02.08 08:23:00 -
[554]
/emote looks around....
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Fojar
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Posted - 2005.02.08 08:30:00 -
[555]
Originally by: s1mon4
Strategic retreat is the retreat of tropes to a relay point where the defense is more easily; until you have again the necessary force to push back, the enemy... is just a simple rule in warfare. Maybe you people have won this battle but do not full your self about the war is still far from being over and one thing I can promise you we will make the live of new ô neutral corpsö from PB a living hell, lets see if u guys can mine because no one will mine for youà.
Well that's not working out as planned is it. The PBL condoned piracy, is neither hampering our efforts to make lots of cash, nor making our lives hell.
At best you are giving our pilots a nice break from all the mining!
Last night for example, a ceptor from ISL corp attacked one of our haulers, so we sent out a party to intercept the ceptor. He was caught by a maller, then logged off mid fight to save his ship. But we still had it scrambled so bang went his ship. Then he logged back on, flew away and got himself podded by a lone raven!!!
All that and we made our selves a tidy little profit on the side. Nice work PBL
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Voyageur
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Posted - 2005.02.08 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: Voyageur on 08/02/2005 13:14:35
Originally by: S3VYN
Originally by: Iznogud Edited by: Iznogud on 04/02/2005 17:14:17
Originally by: Katya Detia lol's ;) ppl hate me, cos i hated FA back in Period Basis. Nah Izno's issue with somethin else, none political ;p. He dosnt wanna sort it out either.. *shrugs* What can i do :p
Stay KOS
http://www.shinra.com/
That... is... great.
I have never thought Shinra are so... enlighted by... pure and... protective forces of the almighty universe,
Can I join u, guyz? Ooops!! The person who takes the banal and ordinary and illuminates it in a new way can terrify. We do not want our ideas changed. We feel threatened by such demands. "I already know the important things!" we say. Then Changer comes and throws our old ideas away.
The Zensufi Master
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Tansien
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Posted - 2005.02.08 13:35:00 -
[557]
Originally by: Voyageur Can I join u, guyz?
Only if you make a donation to the cult leader first (Chowdown) |
Awalance
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Posted - 2005.02.08 16:31:00 -
[558]
Edited by: Awalance on 08/02/2005 16:32:09 Voyageur i think you are just pist coz you succeded to destroy another alliance you try to join the best !?!?! neah i dont think so not when i`m in shinra M8 ------------------------
after you die ,and all peoples who knows you die also ..its like you never exist |
Voyageur
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Posted - 2005.02.09 16:22:00 -
[559]
Originally by: Tansien
Originally by: Voyageur Can I join u, guyz?
Only if you make a donation to the cult leader first (Chowdown)
10 isk would be enough?? it's all i have
Originally by: Awalance Edited by: Awalance on 08/02/2005 16:32:09 Voyageur i think you are just pist coz you succeded to destroy another alliance you try to join the best !?!?! neah i dont think so not when i`m in shinra M8
don't overestimate urself or ur corporation Awa...and im not ****ed off...im rather amused...
have fun The person who takes the banal and ordinary and illuminates it in a new way can terrify. We do not want our ideas changed. We feel threatened by such demands. "I already know the important things!" we say. Then Changer comes and throws our old ideas away.
The Zensufi Master
Frank Herbert Chapterhouse: Dune |
Tycalos
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Posted - 2005.02.09 17:55:00 -
[560]
Edited by: Tycalos on 09/02/2005 17:55:42
Originally by: Fojar
Last night for example, a ceptor from ISL corp attacked one of our haulers, so we sent out a party to intercept the ceptor. He was caught by a maller, then logged off mid fight to save his ship. But we still had it scrambled so bang went his ship. Then he logged back on, flew away and got himself podded by a lone raven!!!
All that and we made our selves a tidy little profit on the side. Nice work PBL
Pls check PBL-KILLBOARD U will see there our latest losses and win's. One ceptor destroyed but before to be destroyed he destroyed the following ships: Punisher Mammoth Bestower Covetor Capsule Iteron Mark V I think he make'it his money.
PS: Come and mine in Z-M5A1 if u wanna want a chalenge min.op. Its more fine to mine here station only one jump away :D
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Galavet
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Posted - 2005.02.09 18:07:00 -
[561]
Edited by: Galavet on 09/02/2005 18:07:36 Edited by: Galavet on 09/02/2005 18:07:26
Originally by: Tycalos Edited by: Tycalos on 09/02/2005 17:55:42
Pls check PBL-KILLBOARD U will see there our latest losses and win's. One ceptor destroyed but before to be destroyed he destroyed the following ships: Punisher Mammoth Bestower Covetor Capsule Iteron Mark V I think he make'it his money.
PS: Come and mine in Z-M5A1 if u wanna want a chalenge min.op. Its more fine to mine here station only one jump away :D
146 2005.01.30 22:21 Tu Ve Imperial Minning Reserve Dominix A2-V27 0
Err you havent downed an enemy BS since last month, and then its not even your main enemy? Ever heard the saying "put a fork in it, cause its done." Somehow I think this applys to PBL.
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Fojar
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:22:00 -
[562]
Originally by: Tycalos
Pls check PBL-KILLBOARD U will see there our latest losses and win's. One ceptor destroyed but before to be destroyed he destroyed the following ships: Punisher Mammoth Bestower Covetor Capsule Iteron Mark V I think he make'it his money.
PS: Come and mine in Z-M5A1 if u wanna want a chalenge min.op. Its more fine to mine here station only one jump away :D
1. How did he make money if he was destroyed on the way back to empire? Unless he put his looted items on he market in PB, where nobody buys anything.
2. Why would we want to mine in Z-M5A1 as GQ doesn't have a refinery? That would be 10 jumps from TPAR. No wonder you guys died out.
3. No Crisis Corp Losses, so i'm happy. But Do you condone the whole logging off mid fight? Because in my view it is the epitimy of lameness.
4. You would have more losses but ur guys keep logging/safespotting every time we have 2 or more in a system. (apart from Hatti, he's the only one who fights us, and we all see how that ended..... "hattifnattISL CORPCapsuleTCAG-30(1) Sin Dimante (Raven)*"
Keep it up PBL, hunting you is more fun than mining
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:32:00 -
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TBH, 3-4 wcs, safespoting, sniping goons is a byproduct of lousy game mechanices. To say you are irrelivant is an insult to the truely irrelivant players.
Undock in Agil yet berge.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.02.10 11:19:00 -
[564]
Originally by: Tycalos PBL-KILLBOARD
Honestly dude I don't think its a good idea showing your kills or lack of. It hardly adds any weight to your argument.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
tastinn
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Posted - 2005.02.10 11:32:00 -
[565]
I lost a Mammoth and got podded yes
1. Didn't log out. 2. Will get revenge. _______________________ The Collective |
pHASE 11
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Posted - 2005.02.10 11:35:00 -
[566]
somewhat off-topic but anyway.
what is "FA applicant" I've seen on one or two of (what I believe is) PBL corp descriptions?
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empire nublette
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Posted - 2005.02.10 11:47:00 -
[567]
Originally by: pHASE 11 somewhat off-topic but anyway.
what is "FA applicant" I've seen on one or two of (what I believe is) PBL corp descriptions?
from dictionary.com: applicant
n : a person who requests or seeks something such as assistance or employment or admission
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pHASE 11
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Posted - 2005.02.10 12:30:00 -
[568]
Originally by: empire nublette
Originally by: pHASE 11 somewhat off-topic but anyway.
what is "FA applicant" I've seen on one or two of (what I believe is) PBL corp descriptions?
from dictionary.com: applicant
n : a person who requests or seeks something such as assistance or employment or admission
retard.
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Fojar
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:14:00 -
[569]
Originally by: pHASE 11 somewhat off-topic but anyway.
what is "FA applicant" I've seen on one or two of (what I believe is) PBL corp descriptions?
It seems as though when PB was defeated by Shinra, and FA was being attacked on all sides that FA accpeted a few of the long standing PBL corps into their ranks. Then made the rest/most of PBL Trialists to help out with the defense of the homland etc.
I don't pretend to know much about this matter, it just seems like common sense to do the above.
I hope that helped
Fojar
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:35:00 -
[570]
The point was not that they did join FA, it was more them denieing it.
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Major Tarsis
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:43:00 -
[571]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Tycalos PBL-KILLBOARD
Honestly dude I don't think its a good idea showing your kills or lack of. It hardly adds any weight to your argument.
Chow I do like the way you are second on the PBL points list however coming just behind the NPCs!
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Edison Frisk
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Posted - 2005.02.10 15:54:00 -
[572]
I am just so happy that this thread is still alive. Getting right back to the thread topic. Period Basis is in fact not under seige anymore but in control of Shinra and her allies. FA are all but gone from the area with the exception of a few lone PBL members hanging around for the easy kills.
I have to say in all my time residing in Period Basis I have never found the place more peaceful, long may it continue.
Oh yes I am Shinra now....arrrrr!
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.02.10 18:45:00 -
[573]
Originally by: Edison Frisk I am just so happy that this thread is still alive. Getting right back to the thread topic. Period Basis is in fact not under seige anymore but in control of Shinra and her allies. FA are all but gone from the area with the exception of a few lone PBL members hanging around for the easy kills.
I have to say in all my time residing in Period Basis I have never found the place more peaceful, long may it continue.
Oh yes I am Shinra now....arrrrr!
Congratulations Shinra on maintaining a long term presence in Period Basis. You guys have proven me wrong, as I didn't think you would be able to stay put for this long. Well done and welcome to the real estate business. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.10 18:53:00 -
[574]
Quote: Well done and welcome to the real estate business.Wink
WTS: Period Basis Region, 10billion a week, full unlimited access
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.02.10 19:41:00 -
[575]
Originally by: AvanCade
Quote: Well done and welcome to the real estate business.Wink
WTS: Period Basis Region, 10billion a week, full unlimited access
I think Techell went out of business.
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Awalance
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Posted - 2005.02.10 20:57:00 -
[576]
Edited by: Awalance on 10/02/2005 21:00:07 what is really entristing is they(IMR/ODT) still beleve in a victory with 4 pilots in area ,they still beleve some corporations will join them in this fight ,but they dont have anny ideea what is really happen ..A2-V27 is in full control of shinra/bob , delve is 80% in control of shinra/evol/rkk ...FIX is only in 9CG sistem under siege of SE forces and bob forces ..soon after CCp will fix taking station bug they will die or will become guerilla in there own land . South-West is in 95% control of us you will not get reinforcement from empire you will not win this battle.
We won gentlmans, you lose. ------------------------
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Stained
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Posted - 2005.02.10 20:58:00 -
[577]
Longest thread... ever? ___________________________________________________________________
Hair is Over-rated.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.02.10 21:06:00 -
[578]
Originally by: Awalance Edited by: Awalance on 10/02/2005 21:00:07 what is really entristing is they(IMR/ODT) still beleve in a victory with 4 pilots in area ,they still beleve some corporations will join them in this fight ,but they dont have anny ideea what is really happen ..A2-V27 is in full control of shinra/bob , delve is 80% in control of shinra/evol/rkk ...FIX is only in 9CG sistem under siege of SE forces and bob forces ..soon after CCp will fix taking station bug they will die or will become guerilla in there own land . South-West is in 95% control of us you will not get reinforcement from empire you will not win this battle.
We won gentlmans, you lose.
I can only say in response to that that you are incorrect about FIX's situation. Not sure where your information comes from but in regards to FIX it is incorrect. Although, this thread is about Period Basis so even after 59 pages we should stay on topic, eh? ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
WildHope
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Posted - 2005.02.10 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Stained Longest thread... ever?
And they say the good die young
Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations) |
Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2005.02.10 22:13:00 -
[580]
*Mrissa walks in wearing a t-shirt that reads:*
"DIE, THREAD, DIE!"
*When asked, she holds the hem out and looks at it*
"Oh this? Its really just german for 'the, thread, the'."
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Smith
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Posted - 2005.02.10 23:50:00 -
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Shinra will not protect corps in PBL area. We may protect station depending on circumstances. Thankyou for your time.
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.02.11 00:04:00 -
[582]
Originally by: Smith Shinra will not protect corps in PBL area. We may protect station depending on circumstances. Thankyou for your time.
Its Period Basis. PBL was the Fountain sponsored allaince we destroyed there.
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Smith
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Posted - 2005.02.11 00:10:00 -
[583]
Now my head hurts. I go back to shooting orangey red squares.
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.02.11 02:29:00 -
[584]
In before the lock w00t
Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media |
benwallace
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Posted - 2005.02.11 11:29:00 -
[585]
yeah it was about 30 pages of in before teh lock --------------------------
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.02.11 12:17:00 -
[586]
Yep, time to lock it.
PBL is long dead. Their founding corp/admins are no longer considered PBL. The rats that could jumped ship to FA proper (big suprise). The Curse Coalition stle gimps will fly around with mx wcs for a few days longer. Luckily there is no shortage of ppl looking to sell their safespots. Its just a matter of having a scorp to tackle them.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.02.11 19:11:00 -
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I see some of the... types with power... went through the boards and... ceased discussion on several topics yet this one was passed over again. It still has life! It will never, ever die!
<obligatory on-topic content> What's the topic again? </obligatory on-topic content>
BTW - there's a huge, insanely interesting and universe changing plot twist coming up on page 102, stay tuned! ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be. |
Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.02.11 20:28:00 -
[588]
After having a private ceremony, alone here in my office, I have decided that it is time for this thread to die.
Being nurtured along the way, being carefully pruned, watered, and fed, it is sad to see such an event come to pass.
With Sadness,
-Abdalion.
PS: Locked. --
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