well eve is a pvp game, always has and always will be!<- this is false, its a sandbox.

and soloing pve isnt hard at all, esp with an alt. <- then it isn't solo, but true solo pve is easy.

just got to ask your self though, why do you want to pve? for me its to make isk to enable pvp<- this is how many people are as well.

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Pip, read what I said initially and don't give up. Just keep on plowing through and don't let a few elitists win by making you quit. If you don't want to PvP, don't. There's so many ways to just avoid it and do something else! Not ALWAYS, but most of the time!

Stay with us mate, and enjoy EVE!

Pip, read what I said initially and don't give up. Just keep on plowing through and don't let a few elitists win by making you quit. If you don't want to PvP, don't. There's so many ways to just avoid it and do something else! Not ALWAYS, but most of the time!

Stay with us mate, and enjoy EVE!

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play. I guess maybe there are not enough solo PvE players to make a difference. Can anyone say different?

In other words, throw the newbie to the vultures.

In other words, throw the newbie to the vultures.

Why is this game built on a PvP environment? There appears to be no place for PvE-only players. Even when joining a corp for support, there has to be PvP elements to prevent PvE activities from being disrupted by PvP players. I am not talking about PvE missions or DED space. I am talking about PvE merchants and miners. Is there such a thing?? Can a player expand as a courier or a miner without PvP support? So far, I cannot find a way to do it.

Everyone with whom I have had contact seems to feel this game is both PvE and PvP, yet they always stipulate you must protect yourself, you must not risk more than you are willing to lose, you should join a corp for protection, etc. Where in there lies a PvE game?

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play. I guess maybe there are not enough solo PvE players to make a difference. Can anyone say different?

I appreciate the encouragement, but I play games to relax. A "realworld" game like EVE just puts me into a "realworld" depression. Not fun.

Thanks, though. 8)

It isnGÇÖt really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and thereGÇÖs customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally donGÇÖt like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. EVE isnGÇÖt for everyone. I wish it was, but the reality is that there are some people who just enjoy playing another game more. And thatGÇÖs not really that bad.

They really should focus on the PVE, stick to what they are good at. PVP in EVE is a skilless joke that real pvpers stay away from.

Anslo. Move along to your room now, the grown ups are talking.


But yeah, EvE isn't built around Solo PvE. You either get friends, get smart, or get dead.


EDIT: Also, weak inexperienced players move 500mil in t1 haulers? How the hell do you have 500mil in goodies if your a newbie?

I appreciate the encouragement, but I play games to relax. A "realworld" game like EVE just puts me into a "realworld" depression. Not fun.

Thanks, though. 8)

Still at it Nerf? +1 for perseverance.

GD isn't populated by vultures.

We're obviously wolves.

Like I said, polarized. Why should he have to do that? If he wants to run missions all day, let him run missions. He wants to do courier? Let him courier. He shouldn't have to do anything anyone else's way. It's people like you that others (gamer and non-gamer) laugh at this community.

EDIT: Hiyora Akachi post with your main.

I already apologized. But it is not horrible, it was a noobie question.

You're brand new, have just shy of 30d of gametime left.

Do this.

1. find some people to chat with (locals in your mission hub for example)
2. if they're pretty cool people, look to joining their corp
3. if the corp fits what your playstyle is, sign up
4. BS with your corpies about whatever whilst doing your thing.


now, that said ... casual corps are fun ... but they're not necessarily the best out there, in that it's sometimes hard to get help when you need it.

But this is my main.


Also, I mission run. I just don't do stupid **** to get killed. If he wants to haul 500mil in stuff in a T1 hauler he should have scouted ahead or hidden it with containers.

He doesn't have to play anyone elses way. He just has to not be a moron when he plays.

Simple as that.

Something about this being a sandbox. Has anyone noticed this rule-of-thumb, "You either get friends, get smart, or get dead"? If you look at the real world, you are only safe if you have friends (a good country with good laws), are smart (a successful terrorist group or a successful immigrant), or dead (R.I.P.)

What does that say about our world community and human psyche? That when a sandbox is populated by players from what should be successful and safe environments, still end up building the same world.

Depends on your preference, really... though I do like the looks of the Wolf over the Vulture.

are smart (a successful terrorist group or a successful immigrant), or dead (R.I.P.)

The actual chances of being scanned down by the big bad ninja salvager are much lower than you think. If and when he does there is no rule actually stating that you have to go after him. What is one missions loot when you run a dozen a day?

There is nothing saying that you have to group up when mining, just be smart about what you fly and where. You remember those missions that were just mentioned above? Well many of them contain rocks. I'm willing to be that suiciders tend to stick to belt patrols far more rather than care enough to scan down lone ships in deadspace and grav sites.

Courier should be the easy one. Light cargo, fast align.

So tell me, what's the supposed handicap here for pve players?

That's not PvE. That's PvP.

By the way, I did all you said. Killed by PvPer on first courier run with light cargo. Killed by PvPer on first group foray to get wealthier rocks. Killed by PvPer who wasn't there when we arrived but was sure there once we were engaged with NPC (PvE) pirates.

I do not understand why someone who knows EVE will still insist EVE is also a PvE game.

when did this thread get racist XD

You just need to learn them my man. Eve is harsh, no questions there, absolutely. But it isn't without help. Send me a message via eve-mail in game. I'll be online in a bit and I can help you out to the best of my ability.