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thanks isd etetia, now this thread can get the attention it truly deserves

1/10 troll not even funny really.

Everyone that plays eve, new people, old bitter vets, and hell even the botting miners understand eve is pvp. The market is completely player run therby pvp. The missions and such are pve until another player wants to scan you down then it's pvp. All in all eve is Everyone vs Everyone.

thanks isd etetia, now this thread can get the attention it truly deserves

Pip, its because of the design of EVE. its designed to be a 'real' universe...where anything can happen.
Yes some may cause you dismay at not being able to do whatever you may be doing, but that is 'life' and that is how EVE is intended to be.
You can always pay,hire,recruit etc someone to get rid of the players that are hindering you.

. For now, I guess I will have to suffer less evolved games.

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This simply is not a solo PvE game.

Play any number of single player games if you don't want PvP.

Why is this game built on a PvP environment?

I am talking about PvE merchants and miners. Is there such a thing?

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play.

MMOs are not just for PvP

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The reason I make the commentary I do about banning PvE is to point out just how damn polarized the community is.

Eve is an MMO, so just because PvE is not optimized for single-player doesn't take away from what it is -- it is both PvP and PvE, which also includes categories you eliminated and didn't mention. These, like exploration, incursions etc. are no less PvE.

Mining is probably the least effective thing to do solo. You could do the market solo and manufacturing with variable efficiency.

You can be a solo courier if you're smart -- it's not risk-free but can be low-risk.

This thread is horrible and you should feel bad for making it.

No. It is PvP with PvE elements. EVE is not both. Other MMOs provide both. EVE does not.



Why?



Found that out the hard way. One little distracted conversation with my roommate, and half a billion ISK gone.

I just do not enjoy the stress of always looking over my shoulder. I play MMOs for social interaction and shared gameplay, not to compete with malicious and greedy players attacking weaker and less experienced players.

I just did not know what kind of game EVE was. Now I know.

I already apologized. But it is not horrible, it was a noobie question.

well eve is a pvp game, always has and always will be!<- this is false, its a sandbox.

and soloing pve isnt hard at all, esp with an alt. <- then it isn't solo, but true solo pve is easy.

just got to ask your self though, why do you want to pve? for me its to make isk to enable pvp<- this is how many people are as well.

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Pip, read what I said initially and don't give up. Just keep on plowing through and don't let a few elitists win by making you quit. If you don't want to PvP, don't. There's so many ways to just avoid it and do something else! Not ALWAYS, but most of the time!

Stay with us mate, and enjoy EVE!

Pip, read what I said initially and don't give up. Just keep on plowing through and don't let a few elitists win by making you quit. If you don't want to PvP, don't. There's so many ways to just avoid it and do something else! Not ALWAYS, but most of the time!

Stay with us mate, and enjoy EVE!

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play. I guess maybe there are not enough solo PvE players to make a difference. Can anyone say different?

In other words, throw the newbie to the vultures.

In other words, throw the newbie to the vultures.

Why is this game built on a PvP environment? There appears to be no place for PvE-only players. Even when joining a corp for support, there has to be PvP elements to prevent PvE activities from being disrupted by PvP players. I am not talking about PvE missions or DED space. I am talking about PvE merchants and miners. Is there such a thing?? Can a player expand as a courier or a miner without PvP support? So far, I cannot find a way to do it.

Everyone with whom I have had contact seems to feel this game is both PvE and PvP, yet they always stipulate you must protect yourself, you must not risk more than you are willing to lose, you should join a corp for protection, etc. Where in there lies a PvE game?

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play. I guess maybe there are not enough solo PvE players to make a difference. Can anyone say different?

I appreciate the encouragement, but I play games to relax. A "realworld" game like EVE just puts me into a "realworld" depression. Not fun.

Thanks, though. 8)

It isnGÇÖt really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and thereGÇÖs customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally donGÇÖt like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. EVE isnGÇÖt for everyone. I wish it was, but the reality is that there are some people who just enjoy playing another game more. And thatGÇÖs not really that bad.

They really should focus on the PVE, stick to what they are good at. PVP in EVE is a skilless joke that real pvpers stay away from.

Anslo. Move along to your room now, the grown ups are talking.


But yeah, EvE isn't built around Solo PvE. You either get friends, get smart, or get dead.


EDIT: Also, weak inexperienced players move 500mil in t1 haulers? How the hell do you have 500mil in goodies if your a newbie?

I appreciate the encouragement, but I play games to relax. A "realworld" game like EVE just puts me into a "realworld" depression. Not fun.

Thanks, though. 8)

Still at it Nerf? +1 for perseverance.

GD isn't populated by vultures.

We're obviously wolves.

Like I said, polarized. Why should he have to do that? If he wants to run missions all day, let him run missions. He wants to do courier? Let him courier. He shouldn't have to do anything anyone else's way. It's people like you that others (gamer and non-gamer) laugh at this community.

EDIT: Hiyora Akachi post with your main.

I already apologized. But it is not horrible, it was a noobie question.

You're brand new, have just shy of 30d of gametime left.

Do this.

1. find some people to chat with (locals in your mission hub for example)
2. if they're pretty cool people, look to joining their corp
3. if the corp fits what your playstyle is, sign up
4. BS with your corpies about whatever whilst doing your thing.


now, that said ... casual corps are fun ... but they're not necessarily the best out there, in that it's sometimes hard to get help when you need it.

But this is my main.


Also, I mission run. I just don't do stupid **** to get killed. If he wants to haul 500mil in stuff in a T1 hauler he should have scouted ahead or hidden it with containers.

He doesn't have to play anyone elses way. He just has to not be a moron when he plays.

Simple as that.

Something about this being a sandbox. Has anyone noticed this rule-of-thumb, "You either get friends, get smart, or get dead"? If you look at the real world, you are only safe if you have friends (a good country with good laws), are smart (a successful terrorist group or a successful immigrant), or dead (R.I.P.)

What does that say about our world community and human psyche? That when a sandbox is populated by players from what should be successful and safe environments, still end up building the same world.

Depends on your preference, really... though I do like the looks of the Wolf over the Vulture.

are smart (a successful terrorist group or a successful immigrant), or dead (R.I.P.)

The actual chances of being scanned down by the big bad ninja salvager are much lower than you think. If and when he does there is no rule actually stating that you have to go after him. What is one missions loot when you run a dozen a day?

There is nothing saying that you have to group up when mining, just be smart about what you fly and where. You remember those missions that were just mentioned above? Well many of them contain rocks. I'm willing to be that suiciders tend to stick to belt patrols far more rather than care enough to scan down lone ships in deadspace and grav sites.

Courier should be the easy one. Light cargo, fast align.

So tell me, what's the supposed handicap here for pve players?

That's not PvE. That's PvP.

By the way, I did all you said. Killed by PvPer on first courier run with light cargo. Killed by PvPer on first group foray to get wealthier rocks. Killed by PvPer who wasn't there when we arrived but was sure there once we were engaged with NPC (PvE) pirates.

I do not understand why someone who knows EVE will still insist EVE is also a PvE game.

when did this thread get racist XD

You just need to learn them my man. Eve is harsh, no questions there, absolutely. But it isn't without help. Send me a message via eve-mail in game. I'll be online in a bit and I can help you out to the best of my ability.

[quote=Anslo]
KB's say otherwise.
And if this IS your main then you really have no credibility to say anything in this matter regarding PvE vs PvP.

Also, so he made a mistake. Fine. People do that. Why bash him? Why not just say, "Ouch, tough **** dude. But live and learn and move on. There's always a way to get back up. You keep learning and you get better," as opposed to telling him to just get off EVE? Why not help RETAIN new players by helping them out? Diversify the player pool, bring in new people, instead of letting it stagnant to PvE people versus PvP people. It's STUPID.
/quote]


Mr. BanPvP wants people to have extensive KBs to argue a point on the forums?

Lolwut.


Lost a few ships in the time I've played. Mostly PvE mission runners because I ****** up and didn't realize that ship I locked was player or something else stupid.

I got dead then I got smart.

This guy got dead then he got whiny....

That's not PvE. That's PvP.

By the way, I did all you said. Killed by PvPer on first courier run with light cargo. Killed by PvPer on first group foray to get wealthier rocks. Killed by PvPer who wasn't there when we arrived but was sure there once we were engaged with NPC (PvE) pirates.

I do not understand why someone who knows EVE will still insist EVE is also a PvE game.

How's that racist?

>implying my talk about banning PvP isn't satirical commentary on the state of our server's community

Do your research scrub, then come talk to me.

The reason I make the commentary I do about banning PvP is to point out just how damn polarized the community is.

Quality WCS Scorpion, chum. Sure this is enough buffer? ANother SPR would've saved ya.

Quality WCS Scorpion, chum. Sure this is enough buffer? ANother SPR would've saved ya.

Shooting scripted red crosses all day is not pvp.

Rigs might of helped. $58B in losses. I"m bookmarking this.

MMOs are not just for PvP, they also are for games with cooperative play. Most MMOs supporting PvE encourage and support cooperative play. In a PvP environment with no controls, you cannot play that way. It is always PvP. I was just looking for the other style of gameplay. EVE does not provide it.

Yeah, that's more nationalist than racist (or maybe just ignorant with the terrorist portion).

EVE is all about cooperative play.

No, it is a PvE element. But since when shooting scripted red crosses still led to my demise by another player, the game itself is all PvP.

EVE is a sandbox which should allow for solo pve as well as other playstyles.

If you just want pvp, there are other games that do it much better and actually require skills as a player and not just time spent and knowledge.

Because you put yourself in a position to be affected by another player. You did it, not the game.

Oh goodie lets scare away all the new players.

To say you can't do solo PVE in this game (Exploration, WHs, low- null- and high-sec missions...) honestly only says more about your knowledge of the game than the game itself. In a game design for multiplayer/cooperation gameplay (The MMO would've been the first clue) it's obviously most efficient to go at it with some friends, but you're pretty bad if you can't thrive of PVE as a lone wolf in EVE.



wat

Pip don't argue. They will eat you alive in here. You are actively partaking in forum PvP.
You seem to continue so this may be an indicator that you like it?
Possibly try looking up the diplomacy side of EVE...the politics are massive here.

Are you hearing yourself? By your own admission, I have to place myself in a position not to be affected by another player. PvP? I think so.

Ah, yes, mindless assumptions. Nobody said you can't do solo pve already. There is always room for improvement .

EVE is a sandbox which should allow for solo pve as well as other playstyles. EVE cannot be described as a sandbox without meaningful solo play styles.

You appear to live in backward land. By not placing yourself in a position to be affected by another player you are avoiding pvp. Guy warps in, you warp out. No pvp. Guy steals from can, you don't fire. No pvp. Guy enters system, you cloak. No pvp. Target player and hit F1-F8. PvP.

It seems that what you are looking for is nanny state pve, meaning that you want the company to coddle and shield you. If so then yes, this game is not for you. This game bears more of a carry yourself attitude to it.

Pip don't argue. They will eat you alive in here. You are actively partaking in forum PvP.
You seem to continue so this may be an indicator that you like it?
Possibly try looking up the diplomacy side of EVE...the politics are massive here.

I started the discourse. Only responsible to participate. I am burning out as I type, though. It should die out soon enough. I should have defined PvP vs PvE at the begining. I can see it is not as clear as I had thought it.

Thanks
PM

EVE is a sandbox which should allow for solo pve as well as other playstyles.

Please let's fix this misconception...

PvP environment: A game in which, at any time another player can affect your play by attacking you without your consent.
PvE environment: A game in which, at no time can another player affect your play by attacking you without your consent.

PvP play: Interacting with (shooting) other players for loot, advancement, and fun.
PvE play: Interacting with (shooting) NPCs for loot, advancement, and fun.

EVE is a PvP game with PvE elements.

Why is this game built on a PvP environment? There appears to be no place for PvE-only players. Even when joining a corp for support, there has to be PvP elements to prevent PvE activities from being disrupted by PvP players. I am not talking about PvE missions or DED space. I am talking about PvE merchants and miners. Is there such a thing?? Can a player expand as a courier or a miner without PvP support? So far, I cannot find a way to do it.

Everyone with whom I have had contact seems to feel this game is both PvE and PvP, yet they always stipulate you must protect yourself, you must not risk more than you are willing to lose, you should join a corp for protection, etc. Where in there lies a PvE game?

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play. I guess maybe there are not enough solo PvE players to make a difference. Can anyone say different?

this is like the best troll ive ever seen. look at all these mad people

That must only leave missioning and PLEXing

stuff about my losses

So? I had fun tossing Archons around like no bodies business. Isn't that the point? Go pew and have fun? If you loose something, d'oh well!

At least I have the balls to run around with a carrier. Don't fly what you can't afford to loose? Well...I can afford to loose a LOT :3

Why is this game built on a PvP environment? There appears to be no place for PvE-only players.

Ah, yes, mindless assumptions. Nobody said you can't do solo pve already. There is always room for improvement .

and yes, the pvp in EVE is pretty awful and skilless in the eyes of most competitive pvpers. You could even easily argue that WoW takes more skill than eve, seeing how you actually have to use terrain in that game and it requires more than 3 buttons.

Inmates love qualities like that.

Why is this game built on a PvP environment? There appears to be no place for PvE-only players. Even when joining a corp for support, there has to be PvP elements to prevent PvE activities from being disrupted by PvP players. I am not talking about PvE missions or DED space. I am talking about PvE merchants and miners. Is there such a thing?? Can a player expand as a courier or a miner without PvP support? So far, I cannot find a way to do it.

Everyone with whom I have had contact seems to feel this game is both PvE and PvP, yet they always stipulate you must protect yourself, you must not risk more than you are willing to lose, you should join a corp for protection, etc. Where in there lies a PvE game?

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play. I guess maybe there are not enough solo PvE players to make a difference. Can anyone say different?

Solo PVE possibilities include:

- Missions
- Mining
- Exploration
- Wormholes
- Industry

All of the above activities can be done solo

GǪand only one of is not a PvP activity. The rest might put you in direct, and often fierce, competition with other players who are likely to try things to keep you from getting what you want.

FYP.

FYP.

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I am sorry if I have wasted anyone's time with this question. If anyone develops a game similar to EVE that supports PvE players, please let me know. For now, I guess I will have to suffer less evolved games.

Missions - Each LP or ISK you earn reduces the value of everyone else's LP/ISK
Mining - Each rock you mine is unavailable to other miners, and each mineral you mine reduces the value of everyone else's minerals.
Exploration - Competition for Sites, and Loot you pick up reduces the value of everyone else's loot.
Wormholes - The above + Shooting each other
Industry - Market Competition.

Every single one might put you in direct competition with other players.

FYP.

No.

Yes.

Which of those 5 allow you to do anything without competing with other players?

Missions - Each LP or ISK you earn reduces the value of everyone else's LP/ISK
Mining - Each rock you mine is unavailable to other miners, and each mineral you mine reduces the value of everyone else's minerals.
Exploration - Competition for Sites, and Loot you pick up reduces the value of everyone else's loot.
Wormholes - The above + Shooting each other
Industry - Market Competition.

Every single one puts you in direct competition with other players.

There's an argument to be made there, but I wonder how many highsec PvE players recognize that their actions affect others.

SW:ToR is that way --------------------------------->

Considering how often some variation of GǣI'm not messing with you so why are you messing with me?Gǥ comes up as an argument from that campGǪ

Three?

Yes they do.

Pip, its because of the design of EVE. its designed to be a 'real' universe...where anything can happen.
Yes some may cause you dismay at not being able to do whatever you may be doing, but that is 'life' and that is how EVE is intended to be.
You can always pay,hire,recruit etc someone to get rid of the players that are hindering you.

Missions - Each LP or ISK you earn reduces the value of everyone else's LP/ISK - Only if the LP is used, there are those who have millions of LP for lack of knowing what to spend it on or just not wanting to which has no influence on the value of other LP
...
Exploration - Competition for Sites, and Loot you pick up reduces the value of everyone else's loot. - Only if sold, but merely completing/looting sites prevents others from being able to do them until they respawn

Then we're in agreement.

There's an argument to be made there, but I wonder how many highsec PvE players recognize that their actions affect others.

Boredom induced nitpicking

Even if you don't use LP, you still gain ISK, and still consume materials (or Manufacturing slots if you built every single thing you use from materials you collected yourself).

Completing them prevents others from completing them. That's what I mean by competition for sites. And again, you consume materials.

This unfortunate condition is sometimes referred to as More Isk Than Brains Syndrome. Its worst manifestations can be seen in Jita. For example, when under a wardec, a player may undock with a Slave set and 4B in cargo or a faction-fit Paladin...or both, on the same day.

The etiology off MIT-BS is unknown. Genetic predisposition has been shown to play a role in at least two uncontrolled studies; but environmental contamination and prion mutations have not been ruled out.

Victims most likely to succumb to the disorder range in age between 14 and 21. Interestingly enough, the second most commonly affected demographic is 40 to 50 years of age, or otherwise may be in mid-life or menopausal crisis.

Shunned by players for throwing away Isk, most victims reside in NP Corporations. Generally, though, this often carefree lot gains a following of fans, including: pirates, km whores, assertive PvPers, beggars, and class clowns.

We agree that you cannot avoid the competition, yes. There is no GÇ£mayGÇ¥ about it since it's built into the very foundation of the game and it's nice of you to admit that the word doesn't belong there.

Why is this game built on a PvP environment? There appears to be no place for PvE-only players. Even when joining a corp for support, there has to be PvP elements to prevent PvE activities from being disrupted by PvP players. I am not talking about PvE missions or DED space. I am talking about PvE merchants and miners. Is there such a thing?? Can a player expand as a courier or a miner without PvP support? So far, I cannot find a way to do it.

Everyone with whom I have had contact seems to feel this game is both PvE and PvP, yet they always stipulate you must protect yourself, you must not risk more than you are willing to lose, you should join a corp for protection, etc. Where in there lies a PvE game?

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play. I guess maybe there are not enough solo PvE players to make a difference. Can anyone say different?

Actually I was referring to his liberal use of the word loose instead of lose yo.

yeah

I believe that PVE does exist in EVE and while it might not be prudent or financially advantageous it is possible to avoid competition if not wholly then at least partially in most of the activities in EVE that would conventionally be considered "PVE".

I also believe it's possible to enjoy EVE without a second thought about the ramifications of how the way you play it affects others.

[ It still doesn't make it PvE GÇö it's more a player vs. wilfully-induced-filter-of-things-that-go-on-in-the-world-around-youGǪ but I don't think PvWIFOTGOITWAY is an industry-standard concept.

The reply wasn't about you. It should be obvious from the quoted parts and content but I'll fix the quote hiccup.

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Well that's just rude. It's like staring at the person but your actually holding a conversation through your blutooth.

I'm sorry good Sir.
I can add your name back, if you really wish to be considered as having More Isk Than Brains Syndrome.

literally tl;dr

It's just eve, not pve or pvp.

Because it appears that your definition is vaguely different than the communities. Btw, I couldn't help but notice that you never did say where all those evil pvp happenings actually happened. It was low sec wasn't it? You did disregard the little warning box didn't you?

Highsec space.

Then either you initiated the conflict by shooting first or stealing from the player that destroyed you, or destroying you cost them their ship.

That's how HS works; PvP is either consensual or it costs the attacker their ship (or a Wardec fee, but that's only kind of non-consensual).

Beg to differ. Being attacked is not limited to lowsec and below. I experienced it first hand. And it was far from consensual. That was why I began this thread.

I enjoy the PVE in EVE, and the fact that you're never safe makes it more enjoyable.

If you don't like the game please don't try to ruin it for the rest of us, total carebearness with zero consequences should never be allowed in this game.

GǪand if it wasn't consensual, then it cost the other guy something, because that's how highsec works: highsec is simply a part of space where aggression comes at a cost. Nothing more, nothing less (ok, maybe a bit less, since there are some equipment restrictions as well).

So you're not actually differing in any way from what he said.

Beg to differ. Being attacked is not limited to lowsec and below. I experienced it first hand. And it was far from consensual. That was why I began this thread.

In that case, it cost the attacker their ship. Because, unless you shot them first (after they stole something of yours) or you stole something from them, CONCORD came by after some delay and blew up their ship.

That's what the "or" was in there for.

With some details, I could explain to you exactly what happened.

The consequences, whatever they were, still did not stop my being attacked and destroyed. Thus my whole point about EVE not having any PVE environments. I get no warning when I enter highsec space.

The one attack, and biggest hit financially, was at a gate. I understand that was a suicide run? The others were at cosmic points. Does security enter those? Isn't there an aggression timer?

[...]

Everyone with whom I have had contact seems to feel this game is both PvE and PvP, yet they always stipulate you must protect yourself, you must not risk more than you are willing to lose, you should join a corp for protection, etc. Where in there lies a PvE game?

[...]

Not ruining anything. Just discussing it. If anything, the aggressiveness of other players has ruined the game for me. No one is changing the game on you.

Yeah but when you were doing that gimmick (ugh, how I fell for that troll) you were pretending to advocate a position that only a very tiny minority of people support. The extent of nonconsensual PvP that should be allowed in hisec is genuinely debatable, but banning PvP outright is something even the most carebeariest types wouldn't support.

You're not ruining it, but you're trying really hard. This is not even a stealth QQ thread, it's an obvious one.

There's an argument to be made there, but I wonder how many highsec PvE players recognize that their actions affect others.

Not enough......some of the simplest people that push straight into mining barges etc. just so they can mine don't quite realize I think what effect the ores and minerals they sell has on the market. I imagine quite a few think there is an npc that buys all that up when they right click and hit sell. Any mining I do is for personal/corp use only. And thats all the low end stuff. Veldspar etc. I buy all my zydrine, mega and morphite off the market.

Highsec space.

Why is this game built on a PvP environment? There appears to be no place for PvE-only players.

The consequences, whatever they were, still did not stop my being attacked and destroyed.

Thus my whole point about EVE not having any PVE environments. I get no warning when I enter highsec space.

The one attack, and biggest hit financially, was at a gate. I understand that was a suicide run? The others were at cosmic points. Does security enter those? Isn't there an aggression timer?

I don't think you are being completely honest here.

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1/10 troll not even funny really.

Everyone that plays eve, new people, old bitter vets, and hell even the botting miners understand eve is pvp. The market is completely player run therby pvp. The missions and such are pve until another player wants to scan you down then it's pvp. All in all eve is Everyone vs Everyone.

Having the title of one bad guy and the name of a supervillian, shouldn't you be cackling at the prospect of a carebear leaving with his tail between his legs rather than being a carebear about the situation yourself?

I think the first sign what CCP thought of this idea is when they actually moved a thread TO General Discussion.

The thing I find most upsetting ws posted early on in this thread, the assumption that people enjoy inflicting suffering and watching the suffering of their victims.

What about people, surely the vast majority of people, who don't? would you reccomend EVE to them?

it's an MMO.
look up what the second M stands for.


If you want a PVE MMO, bo play WoW.

GD isn't populated by vultures.

We're obviously wolves.

Why is this game built on a PvP environment? There appears to be no place for PvE-only players.

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The thing I find most upsetting ws posted early on in this thread, the assumption that people enjoy inflicting suffering and watching the suffering of their victims.

What about people, surely the vast majority of people, who don't? would you reccomend EVE to them?

Why is this game built on a PvP environment? There appears to be no place for PvE-only players. Even when joining a corp for support, there has to be PvP elements to prevent PvE activities from being disrupted by PvP players. I am not talking about PvE missions or DED space. I am talking about PvE merchants and miners. Is there such a thing?? Can a player expand as a courier or a miner without PvP support? So far, I cannot find a way to do it.

Everyone with whom I have had contact seems to feel this game is both PvE and PvP, yet they always stipulate you must protect yourself, you must not risk more than you are willing to lose, you should join a corp for protection, etc. Where in there lies a PvE game?

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play. I guess maybe there are not enough solo PvE players to make a difference. Can anyone say different?

The thing I find most upsetting ws posted early on in this thread, the assumption that people enjoy inflicting suffering and watching the suffering of their victims.

What about people, surely the vast majority of people, who don't? would you reccomend EVE to them?

Solo play has been against CCP game direction for years, I remember when they first posted that they wanted to force ppl into co-operative play, a sad day.

Tal

Yet you can still solo, the biggest corps in the game are the NPC corps, which are full of solo players, and admittedly a metric shedload of alts

The game seems handicapped for solo PvE play. I guess maybe there are not enough solo PvE players to make a difference. Can anyone say different?