[quote=Anslo]
KB's say otherwise.
And if this IS your main then you really have no credibility to say anything in this matter regarding PvE vs PvP.

Also, so he made a mistake. Fine. People do that. Why bash him? Why not just say, "Ouch, tough **** dude. But live and learn and move on. There's always a way to get back up. You keep learning and you get better," as opposed to telling him to just get off EVE? Why not help RETAIN new players by helping them out? Diversify the player pool, bring in new people, instead of letting it stagnant to PvE people versus PvP people. It's STUPID.
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Mr. BanPvP wants people to have extensive KBs to argue a point on the forums?

Lolwut.


Lost a few ships in the time I've played. Mostly PvE mission runners because I ****** up and didn't realize that ship I locked was player or something else stupid.

I got dead then I got smart.

This guy got dead then he got whiny....

That's not PvE. That's PvP.

By the way, I did all you said. Killed by PvPer on first courier run with light cargo. Killed by PvPer on first group foray to get wealthier rocks. Killed by PvPer who wasn't there when we arrived but was sure there once we were engaged with NPC (PvE) pirates.

I do not understand why someone who knows EVE will still insist EVE is also a PvE game.

How's that racist?

>implying my talk about banning PvP isn't satirical commentary on the state of our server's community

Do your research scrub, then come talk to me.

The reason I make the commentary I do about banning PvP is to point out just how damn polarized the community is.

Quality WCS Scorpion, chum. Sure this is enough buffer? ANother SPR would've saved ya.

Quality WCS Scorpion, chum. Sure this is enough buffer? ANother SPR would've saved ya.

Shooting scripted red crosses all day is not pvp.

Rigs might of helped. $58B in losses. I"m bookmarking this.

MMOs are not just for PvP, they also are for games with cooperative play. Most MMOs supporting PvE encourage and support cooperative play. In a PvP environment with no controls, you cannot play that way. It is always PvP. I was just looking for the other style of gameplay. EVE does not provide it.

Yeah, that's more nationalist than racist (or maybe just ignorant with the terrorist portion).

EVE is all about cooperative play.

No, it is a PvE element. But since when shooting scripted red crosses still led to my demise by another player, the game itself is all PvP.

EVE is a sandbox which should allow for solo pve as well as other playstyles.

If you just want pvp, there are other games that do it much better and actually require skills as a player and not just time spent and knowledge.

Because you put yourself in a position to be affected by another player. You did it, not the game.

Oh goodie lets scare away all the new players.

To say you can't do solo PVE in this game (Exploration, WHs, low- null- and high-sec missions...) honestly only says more about your knowledge of the game than the game itself. In a game design for multiplayer/cooperation gameplay (The MMO would've been the first clue) it's obviously most efficient to go at it with some friends, but you're pretty bad if you can't thrive of PVE as a lone wolf in EVE.



wat

Pip don't argue. They will eat you alive in here. You are actively partaking in forum PvP.
You seem to continue so this may be an indicator that you like it?
Possibly try looking up the diplomacy side of EVE...the politics are massive here.

Are you hearing yourself? By your own admission, I have to place myself in a position not to be affected by another player. PvP? I think so.

Ah, yes, mindless assumptions. Nobody said you can't do solo pve already. There is always room for improvement .

EVE is a sandbox which should allow for solo pve as well as other playstyles. EVE cannot be described as a sandbox without meaningful solo play styles.

You appear to live in backward land. By not placing yourself in a position to be affected by another player you are avoiding pvp. Guy warps in, you warp out. No pvp. Guy steals from can, you don't fire. No pvp. Guy enters system, you cloak. No pvp. Target player and hit F1-F8. PvP.

It seems that what you are looking for is nanny state pve, meaning that you want the company to coddle and shield you. If so then yes, this game is not for you. This game bears more of a carry yourself attitude to it.