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Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2011.01.02 12:58:00 - [31] Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 02/01/2011 12:43:18 Originally by: Lance Fighter I see no issue with any particular one of those. Except, of course, when they are taken out of context and written up as propaganda. Seriously, there's not a single example in that link that you think is government overreach? Do you really believe a 70 year old lady should be roughed up and arrested for not submitting to a parade of questions over why her lawn was dry which isn't even a crime? Do you really think a 10 year old girl should be arrested and charged with a felony because she brought a knife to cut her lunch at school and everyone admits she never threatened anyone or used it inappropriately? Seriously? You think arrests are the proper response to these situations? Whilst I understand that societies have become weak and suffer from an inflated sense of self importance, I believe that thorough beatings are a better way to get the point across. At the same time a chivalrous man like me believes in the rule of thumb, a woman shouldn't be struck with a stick thicker than the thumb of the person doing the beating. Unless they're ugly, then it's the rule of wrist Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
Vogue Skynet Nexus	Posted - 2011.01.02 13:24:00 - [32] Law and order are containment systems. And delivering 'moral' 'justice'. That is the aggregate will of the herd. It is criminal to incrimate yourself. But there is no legal framework for others trying to incriminate yourself. A criminal is an amateur. A gangster is a professional criminal who can do spreadbetting. That is afford opportunity to others which gives them sanction by the police, politicians and others to persecute primary targets by trap shooting. Control, implied threat (honour), consolidation. It is much more harsh in the USA than in the UK where I live. The cost of the USA maintaing its primacy as a super power in the world is a criminalised underclass. You can't afford to be a military superpower and have a prodigous welfare state as well. Thick educated people moan about the collapse of morality and society. But nowadays western countries are much more civil than they was in the mid 1800's. Though what gives people humility more than anything else is a blooding in a war that tests the existance of their nation. Which is daft but so is the human condition. .................................................. One man with courage is a majority
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2011.01.02 13:26:00 - [33] Originally by: Vogue The cost of the USA maintaing its primacy as a super power in the world is a criminalised underclass. You can't afford to be a military superpower and have a prodigous welfare state as well. And our bloated runaway military budget has nothing to do with it? Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.02 13:56:00 - [34] Originally by: Vogue The cost of the USA maintaing its primacy as a super power in the world is a criminalised underclass. You can't afford to be a military superpower and have a prodigous welfare state as well. This is true, but in reality no nation can sustain a welfare state indefinitely. Many countries in Europe have traded in super power status for welfare states but still face a collapsing system. Militaries are sustainable and necessary, welfare states are not. Thankfully, hopefully, the welfare state will cease to exist this century as it simply becomes unaffordable.
frsd Caldari Kleinrock Heavy Industries	Posted - 2011.01.02 17:43:00 - [35] Quote: Militaries are sustainable and necessary, welfare states are not. All dictators would be proud of you!
Vogue Skynet Nexus	Posted - 2011.01.02 17:56:00 - [36] Edited by: Vogue on 02/01/2011 17:57:31 In history a lot of countries have been poorly prepared for major wars. Britain did poor pre planning in the face of **** Germany's advance. And I think this was the case centuries ago when Spain attacked Britain with its naval armada. Now USA has a gigantic military with no immediate threats. China is upgrading and upsizing its military. USA often try to spin this as a threat. But any rising global power would wish to do the same. So its the old chestnut of 'balance of power'. In the past the idea of 'balance of power' has often and mostly failed and ended up in war. But what will maintain peace more than anything is globalisation and symbiotic economic relationships. And really a lot of military doctrines nowadays have not been tested. And a lot of air, naval and land platforms are still based on old anti-soviet strategies. As I have said US places a huge amount of capability in the carrier group concept. In Harpoon the naval combat simualtor\computer game its not to hard to take out a carrier. China has specifically being developing an anti carrier ballstic missile for many years. I think though energy wars will be the issue in the future if oil supply cant meat demand. .................................................. One man with courage is a majority
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition	Posted - 2011.01.02 21:19:00 - [37] Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 02/01/2011 21:23:41 Any "resistance" in the US is taking on a Second Realm Strategy The view is that the "progressives", the "yuppies", the "neocons", etc (party affiliation and more) arguing about the arrangement of deck chairs on the Titanic when the outcome is obvious - it's going to be how Rome went complete with matching architecture in the national capital. "Hard target" communities are already forming where any crackdown ideas are met with "are you crazy?" in the smokey backrooms. Ironically enough, people are starting to learn the tactics of the illegal aliens from Mexico - yes instead of clamoring for them to be rounded up and deported, people are starting to study how they do things and form their own closed communities of off-the-books contracts, trade deals, person to person contracts without the miles of licenses, bondings, red tape, permits, and everything else that makes building a 100 dollar shed cost 1000 dollars. They, like the immigrants, are not assimilating with whatever this strange police state this country is becoming. You hear more and more things like never call the police and no matter what, even if they are friends, don't ever talk to them either. The snitch is still considered the lowest form of human. Notably people are talking about Fox News in this thread. Between the workings of what is called the "Main Stream Media" (MSM) and Fox News, you have Full Spectrum Dominance of the issues. That is, the real issues are not addressed. So those who don't follow the MSM think they took a red pill and escaped the Matrix, but really just got into another one. So, like Germany in the 1930s where a person was either communist or nationalist, a typical person in the USA is either all for the welfare state or all for the warfare state. In the end, there is plenty of welfare and warfare as both sides are bought off - just like Adolf did to get power. The only hope is for this machine to run out of money. And it is. But this monster will be looking to tear out a lot of throats on the way down.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.02 21:28:00 - [38] Edited by: baltec1 on 02/01/2011 21:31:11 Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: Vogue The cost of the USA maintaing its primacy as a super power in the world is a criminalised underclass. You can't afford to be a military superpower and have a prodigous welfare state as well. This is true, but in reality no nation can sustain a welfare state indefinitely. Many countries in Europe have traded in super power status for welfare states but still face a collapsing system. Militaries are sustainable and necessary, welfare states are not. Thankfully, hopefully, the welfare state will cease to exist this century as it simply becomes unaffordable. How odd, my national healthcare system seems to be doing just fine.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.02 22:00:00 - [39] Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 02/01/2011 12:43:18 Originally by: Lance Fighter I see no issue with any particular one of those. Except, of course, when they are taken out of context and written up as propaganda. Seriously, there's not a single example in that link that you think is government overreach? Do you really believe a 70 year old lady should be roughed up and arrested for not submitting to a parade of questions over why her lawn was dry which isn't even a crime? Do you really think a 10 year old girl should be arrested and charged with a felony because she brought a knife to cut her lunch at school and everyone admits she never threatened anyone or used it inappropriately? Seriously? You think arrests are the proper response to these situations? I see no reason why any of those could not escalate into resisting the police/arrest/etc. The initial thing might have been what was listed, but I highly doubt that that is exactly what someone was arrested for.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.02 23:01:00 - [40] Edited by: Jada Maroo on 02/01/2011 23:01:57 Originally by: frsd Quote: Militaries are sustainable and necessary, welfare states are not. All dictators would be proud of you! Dictators are usually socialists and quickly nationalize major industries to cement their hold to power (Hugo Chavez, H-itler, Stalin, Mao). The welfare state is just a step toward dictatorship, making people dependant on government for their livelihoods while creating a death spiral of public debt that will inevitably collapse or be fed by the government seizing industry and property to maintain control of the dependant class. Socialism is the enemy of freedom.

Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2011.01.02 23:13:00 - [41] Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 02/01/2011 23:01:57 Originally by: frsd Quote: Militaries are sustainable and necessary, welfare states are not. All dictators would be proud of you! Dictators are usually socialists and quickly nationalize major industries to cement their hold to power (Hugo Chavez, H-itler, Stalin, Mao). The welfare state is just a step toward dictatorship, making people dependant on government for their livelihoods while creating a death spiral of public debt that will inevitably collapse or be fed by the government seizing industry and property to maintain control of the dependant class. Socialism is the enemy of freedom. Let's go introduce democracy to Canada!!!! Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.02 23:19:00 - [42] Originally by: Lance Fighter I see no reason why any of those could not escalate into resisting the police/arrest/etc. The initial thing might have been what was listed, but I highly doubt that that is exactly what someone was arrested for. An officer needs a reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed to detain you and ask questions. In the case of the 70 year old woman, there was not even the allegation of a crime being committed when the officers arrived on the scene. The woman was completely within her rights to refuse to answer the officers' questions, which is probably why the city apologized. And there's not even a suggestion anywhere that the 10 year old girl did anything to escalate the situation. I don't know a single officer who would defend these arrests. Maybe it's a small town police thing. I mostly work with HPD, and they have more important things to do than waste time filling out incident reports about the gardening practices of old ladies. Frankly they wouldn't have responded to a call like this to begin with.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.02 23:22:00 - [43] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Let's go introduce democracy to Canada!!!! The way they're going, they're going to need it. You should read up about their speech crime laws sometime. Scary stuff.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2011.01.02 23:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Let's go introduce democracy to Canada!!!! The way they're going, they're going to need it. You should read up about their speech crime laws sometime. Scary stuff. HAHAHA, I'm secretly a Canadian spying on the forums! The mounties have been notified and as soon as we catch enough flying squirrels we're going to invade!!! Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.02 23:47:00 - [45] Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: Vogue The cost of the USA maintaing its primacy as a super power in the world is a criminalised underclass. You can't afford to be a military superpower and have a prodigous welfare state as well. This is true, but in reality no nation can sustain a welfare state indefinitely. Many countries in Europe have traded in super power status for welfare states but still face a collapsing system. Militaries are sustainable and necessary, welfare states are not. Thankfully, hopefully, the welfare state will cease to exist this century as it simply becomes unaffordable. Welfare states are perfectly capable of maintaining themselves. It just doesn't go well with low taxes or ultra-liberal policies, which are two things some people are not willing to give up. I don't see Scandinavian countries switching away from it anytime soon, not most Western-European ones, and they all seem to be doing pretty damn fine in almost every category except - Military. Militaries exist because other militaries exist, and for no other reason. For that matter, the military in the US seems to be doing wonders for it's society, isn't it? The military budget could in no possible way have been compromised in order to keep the country it's supposed to protect running. That doesn't go for just the US though. I'm still flabberghasted about how the Dutch government keeps wanting to pay more to Lockheed for a fighter jet they'll probably not even buy while branches like education pretty much get the shaft 'because we don't have enough money'. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.03 00:51:00 - [46] Originally by: Jada Maroo Socialism is the enemy of freedom. There are those that would argue that socialism is a requirement for any civilized society. What you are speaking of government mandated socialism, which is government lead social welfare funded by the "peoples" money taken by way of "taxes" or what others would call extortion. True socialism is when the people willingly and of their own accord take a part in their societies advancement by helping bring up the areas that are lacking. Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.03 00:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Reiisha Welfare states are perfectly capable of maintaining themselves. It just doesn't go well with low taxes or ultra-liberal policies, which are two things some people are not willing to give up. I don't see Scandinavian countries switching away from it anytime soon, not most Western-European ones, and they all seem to be doing pretty damn fine in almost every category except - The only reason you see some Scandinavian countries escaping the pattern of crippling dept and collapse is that some, like Norway, have nationalized resources to pay the bills. And the problem with relying on high taxes to fund these ponzi schemes is that none of these countries exist in a vacuum, and there will always be a more competitive country offering businesses and investors a better tax structure. There's a reason why the Scandinavian countries aren't the economic engines of the world. Quote: Military. Militaries exist because other militaries exist, and for no other reason. For that matter, the military in the US seems to be doing wonders for it's society, isn't it? The military budget could in no possible way have been compromised in order to keep the country it's supposed to protect running. Militaries will always exist, and have to exist, because if no one has one then someone will build one. Strong-men always come about. I'm not sure what part of our system you think needs more money. If anything we spend far, far too much on programs already. Flushing more money down the public education toilet only benefits the teachers unions. Medicare and medicaid are already going broke and adding more dependents is the last thing they need. And even if we zeroed out the entire military budget medicare, medicaid, and social security are still unsustainable. The United States, like a lot of European countries (and Japan), promised its citizens more than it could deliver. We should never have started down that road.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.03 01:02:00 - [48] Originally by: Slade Trillgon True socialism is when the people willingly and of their own accord take a part in their societies advancement by helping bring up the areas that are lacking. That sounds more like libertarianism really. Because what happens in your true socialist society the minute I decide I don't want any part in funding your healthcare or education? If I can opt out, fine, but that's never been an option in socialized systems that I've seen. If a group of people want to get together and form a system that provides healthcare for their collective use, great. You call that socialism, I call that free association. So long as I am free not to associate, you can do whatever you want. In practice this just never happens. It all ends up with government coercion.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition	Posted - 2011.01.03 01:46:00 - [49] A lot of talk about socialism and sustainability here. It's not easy to compare the US with Europe on this. As I recall, having spent time in Germany, if someone wants to live there they can't just show up. They have to have a job and unless I am mistaken, you must have skills or education that is beneficial. Notably Europe is plagued with immigration issues. How does all of this tie in with socialism? Very simple: you cannot have a welfare state (a prominent feature of socialism) with an open border. The USA has a very open border. How open? So open that, like I have pointed out, Americans are starting to realize that illegal aliens are the only people left with any freedom to do business and make money. Yet the illegals can get free medical care and in some states college education (though more often in-state tuition rates). It's one thing to take money from people and dole it out, it's another to let people who are not part of the system (paying taxes into it) show up and start taking too. This makes the system run out of money. Simple economics, yet again. No need to treat it like a secret formula.
WalkTalk	Posted - 2011.01.03 03:24:00 - [50] Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 02/01/2011 23:01:57 Originally by: frsd Quote: Militaries are sustainable and necessary, welfare states are not. All dictators would be proud of you! Dictators are usually socialists and quickly nationalize major industries to cement their hold to power (Hugo Chavez, H-itler, Stalin, Mao). The welfare state is just a step toward dictatorship, making people dependant on government for their livelihoods while creating a death spiral of public debt that will inevitably collapse or be fed by the government seizing industry and property to maintain control of the dependant class. Socialism is the enemy of freedom. To call **** a socialist you would have to have a very tenuous grasp of history. That statement is indicative of somebody that knows nothing about ism beyond the title of the party. To be honest I'm a little surprised that anybody could be that ignorant. Sure they called themselves socialist, but I thought every school child knew that the **s were fascist? As far as your overall argument, that most dictators are socialists or that socialism leads to dictatorships, this isn't really true either. What about Pinochet? Suharto? The Argentine military junta? None of those regimes were "left wing" regimes. They were all noted for their anti-communist stances. Your argument about socialism governments causing a "death spiral" of debt also holds no water. In both Chile during Pinochet's reign, and Argentina during the Argentine military junta's reign, debt skyrocketed. As far as skyrocketing debt goes, the issue isn't about right wing versus left wing administration. The issue is about accountability. Dictatorships (whether they govern from the left or from the right) usually aren't accountable to anyone.

WalkTalk	Posted - 2011.01.03 03:38:00 - [51] Edited by: WalkTalk on 03/01/2011 03:38:33 Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: Reiisha Welfare states are perfectly capable of maintaining themselves. It just doesn't go well with low taxes or ultra-liberal policies, which are two things some people are not willing to give up. I don't see Scandinavian countries switching away from it anytime soon, not most Western-European ones, and they all seem to be doing pretty damn fine in almost every category except - The only reason you see some Scandinavian countries escaping the pattern of crippling dept and collapse is that some, like Norway, have nationalized resources to pay the bills. And the problem with relying on high taxes to fund these ponzi schemes is that none of these countries exist in a vacuum, and there will always be a more competitive country offering businesses and investors a better tax structure. There's a reason why the Scandinavian countries aren't the economic engines of the world. Norway doesn't use its resource revenues to "pay the bills". They barely use their resource revenues at all -- they've invested their resource revenues to create the world's largest sovereign wealth fund, and currently the government is only able to withdraw up to 4% of the fund per year (essentially, they can siphon off the yield but don't touch the principal). They did this to avoid the social and economic problems that can occur from the constant boom and bust that a resource based economy experiences. This is an idea that I wish Canada, or at least a couple Canadian provinces would look into. Sadly, it'd be unlikely to have political support here. Quote: Militaries will always exist, and have to exist, because if no one has one then someone will build one. Strong-men always come about. I'm not sure what part of our system you think needs more money. If anything we spend far, far too much on programs already. Flushing more money down the public education toilet only benefits the teachers unions. Medicare and medicaid are already going broke and adding more dependents is the last thing they need. And even if we zeroed out the entire military budget medicare, medicaid, and social security are still unsustainable. The United States, like a lot of European countries (and Japan), promised its citizens more than it could deliver. We should never have started down that road. Yet, in Canada, our social security system is sustainable (we don't call it social security, it is split into three different payments -- CPP, OAS, and GIS -- and they are all sustainable according to reasonable actuarial estimates). There have been some concerns about our healthcare system but that is more based on people advocating for a two tier system rather than any data that shows that government medicare in Canada is unsustainable. What I'm saying is that you should stop throwing around absolutes. You don't know what you're talking about. The issue isn't that social security can't be sustainable, nor that government medicare can't be sustainable. The issue is that in the USA (and maybe some other countries) these systems haven't been set up in a sustainable way.
Aunty Nora	Posted - 2011.01.03 03:49:00 - [52] Sumes up what a ridiculous crap hole the place is, the sooner it gets nuked, the better.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.01.03 05:37:00 - [53] Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 03/01/2011 05:38:05 Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer 14 Things Interesting. thought it was really dumb, tbh he was going strong on the first bit about how many people we have behind bars, then completely sidetracked it in favor of 'ohgod, look! the EVIL GOVERNMENT is arresting CHILDREN and OLD PEOPLE for DUMB THINGS'. People being arrested for dumb things might make really amusing/interesting/horrifying stories, but we don't have millions of people in jails and prisons because we're arresting people for distributing bibles or using steak knives in school.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2011.01.03 05:50:00 - [54] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 03/01/2011 05:38:05 Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer 14 Things Interesting. thought it was really dumb, tbh he was going strong on the first bit about how many people we have behind bars, then completely sidetracked it in favor of 'ohgod, look! the EVIL GOVERNMENT is arresting CHILDREN and OLD PEOPLE for DUMB THINGS'. People being arrested for dumb things might make really amusing/interesting/horrifying stories, but we don't have millions of people in jails and prisons because we're arresting people for distributing bibles or using steak knives in school. Well what are we supposed to arrest people for then? We can't arrest people for being minorities anymore Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
Baneken Gallente School of the Unseen	Posted - 2011.01.03 06:11:00 - [55] So US having 80 billion dollar "CIA budget" is a mandatory thing for liberty I see, well who needs free education and medical care anyway when you have a military and their cool toys to spend on ? Certainly not Americans who never get sick and always have jobs and don't have work to go to college or basic education... http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2011.01.03 06:14:00 - [56] Originally by: Baneken So US having 80 billion dollar "CIA budget" is a mandatory thing for liberty I see, well who needs free education and medical care anyway when you have a military and their cool toys to spend on ? Certainly not Americans who never get sick and always have jobs and don't have work to go to college or basic education... If you can't afford medical care or education then you deserve neither Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
wayz The Greif Wave	Posted - 2011.01.03 06:50:00 - [57] Edited by: wayz on 03/01/2011 06:50:29 I'm a Brit and always wanted to visit America but from what I read online and actualy hear from freinds who live there its a total police state. I think its frightening how this has happened in a country thats entire ethos was originally about Freedom and liberty. I wonder what the early colonists of the Americas who fouoght the war of independance against the king of Englands tyranny would feel now if they saw what they had fought so hard for. Personally I dont understand why americans arent rioting in the streets when theres stuff like this going on www.faceparty.com/twisted_wayz
Riedle Minmatar Paradox Collective Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.01.03 13:26:00 - [58] Originally by: wayz Edited by: wayz on 03/01/2011 06:50:29 I'm a Brit and always wanted to visit America but from what I read online and actualy hear from freinds who live there its a total police state. I think its frightening how this has happened in a country thats entire ethos was originally about Freedom and liberty. I wonder what the early colonists of the Americas who fouoght the war of independance against the king of Englands tyranny would feel now if they saw what they had fought so hard for. Personally I dont understand why americans arent rioting in the streets when theres stuff like this going on LOL at the Brit calling America a police state when you are monitored 24/7 by surveilance cameras. lols Quote: Yet, in Canada, our social security system is sustainable (we don't call it social security, it is split into three different payments -- CPP, OAS, and GIS -- and they are all sustainable according to reasonable actuarial estimates). There have been some concerns about our healthcare system but that is more based on people advocating for a two tier system rather than any data that shows that government medicare in Canada is unsustainable. What I'm saying is that you should stop throwing around absolutes. You don't know what you're talking about. The issue isn't that social security can't be sustainable, nor that government medicare can't be sustainable. The issue is that in the USA (and maybe some other countries) these systems haven't been set up in a sustainable way. Complete and utter BS. Canada's healthcare system IS unsustainable. WHY? Because it doesn't follow supply and demand in any way and private delivery of healthcare is not allowed in a lot of cases ( although this will be changing very soon). Another big reason is the aging of the Babyboomers and not enough workers (tax payers' to support them). The heathcare system already takes up over 50% of each provinces budget and is expected to get much much worse if changes are not made. I am a Canadian and your take on it is pure BS.
Vogue Skynet Nexus	Posted - 2011.01.03 13:36:00 - [59] Brits in general roll over to big brother advances more than any other country. We have more CCTV per square mile than any other country in the world. There is a 'do what your told' mentality in the UK I think. People need to travel more. I have been to the USA several times and enjoyed it. But being a tourist in a bubble is not going to give you a great insight into how Americans live unless you get some dirt under your finger nails and try and live there. .................................................. One man with courage is a majority
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.03 13:42:00 - [60] Originally by: WalkTalk stuff The word filter is annoying. You're assuming that a dictator can't be both a socialist and a fascist. And you're also coming from a wrong perspective of fascism = right ring / socialism = left wing, which is not true. Left and right are really terribly defined terms. What is leftism if it's not authoritarianism? The further "left" you move on the political spectrum, the greater amount of centralized control. This encompasses all dictatorships. It doesn't matter if they happen to oppose other dictators, or communist regimes, the moment you have an all powerful government that can seize private property and deny liberty at will, it becomes tyrannical. Centralized planning and control are pillars of leftism, progressivism, and socialism. They "own" tyranny. Even hippies are authoritarians. Sound ridiculous? Good. We'll use a stereotypical peace/love war-protesting stick-it-to-the-man hippie as an example. Moonbeam is out on the streets protesting the world's injustices. He wants social justice. Economic justice. All kinds of justice. But the justice he wants is to be metted out by the government. So really Moonbeam wants to empower government to do something. That's not sticking it to the man, that's giving the man greater authority. And what is economic and social justice? In one form or another, they're just redistribution of wealth. Taking from the productive in society and giving to the unproductive or those "victimized by the system." Same with black supremacists and reparations at the time. As much as they went on about the injustices of the American government, it's exactly that government they wanted to empower to steal wealth from one citizen and transfer it to another. Theft of private assets by government and redistribution is a tyrannical, big-government act. Again the domain of the political left, socialism, and dictators.



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