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Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.10.19 18:15:00 - [31] Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 19/10/2005 18:17:11 I couldn't bring myself to read this entire thread, but the fact that peopl euse rails etups on the Hawk, which is suppose to be a missile AF, just shows that something is very, very wrong with it. For the love of god, give the hawk the same hislots as the harpy, but reversed. 4 launchers and a railgun would make it a very nice ship. I'd say give it a -cpu/grid bonus so it can fit assults like the manticore does cruise missiles, but an af with 4 assault launchers(and a railgun ) would be serious overkill. I just don't see what the point is in having some uber tanking AF when you barely do more damage than a merlin. edit: oops, didn't notice the date of the OP.
Crellion	Posted - 2005.10.19 22:16:00 - [32] 1) Signed for the abovee post 2) As matters stand hawk is not bad AFvAF but sux for all other things. Harpy is IMO better than any other AF for dmg dealing in frig fleets. No silly bussines of getting in range etc. In a crazy night in a gang with 2BS 2Raxs and my Harpy (I think) I ended up with 4 final blows (out of the 5 the gang got) 2 scorps and 2 ceptors in the same engagement. Harpy rocks for group - fleet - gate pvp. 1v1 and pve you dont need so much hp tanking but you need it sustained so trully it can run outof juice quickly and many AFs tank thermal and kinetic... so what? (it does pown the wolf though I think... might be wrong). It kills tech 1 frigs (tacklers in fleets sometimes) in 2 volleys (so 2.04 secs from gun activation) I love it. 3) the Hawk I am having trouble rationalising: Perhaps cause I am too noob to be really that interested in 1v1 AF fights -Hawk's main strength (still for that you need the gist SB so you d have to kill 10 AFs or something to get enough loot to justify it). 4) My take on the Hawk sometimes is this: High: 2x150rails with Lead 2xLimos or better standards (low cap usage all roughly same range 20km) Med:2x20km disruptors 1xSmall SbII 1x SensBoost II (High cap usage - 2okm range) Low: 2xpdu (II) or 1xBCU - 1xMFSII The point is a gate engagement tackler that has a bit higher scan resolution than an inty that has enough cap to run 2x20km scrams and stays alive much more than an inty when frigs are part of what you expect to jump through. It also hits as much as your average inty or a bit more (not intys though for that would change 1 scram for 1web). It is a viable alternative to an inty for "keep em here" tactic as opposed to "go get em tactic". It is also likely to die if you lose the engagement and likely to get not a lot of glory on the killmails if you win but my inty corp and ally m8s offer so much that once in a while I like to go out with this and repay the favour.A group tool - not for the solo player. As for the pure tank Hawk set up i know a pilot who was standing still taking fire from my Eagle anti-matter at optimal for close to 3 mins b4 breaking (I dont think he would have gone out at all if i hadnt come within the em lights assault 2x range in the end). Trust me thats a LOT of dmg 1 mill angel BSs die faster. I still dont know how to use them properly but the above might provide some useful ideas.
vecdran	Posted - 2005.10.26 16:13:00 - [33] Does anyone have a tried and tested Hawk setup? I'm looking to use one possibly for piratin, so it needs to be a general setup good against all ship types. I've been debating blasters + rockets and a warp scrambler vs. rails and standard launchers and a warp jammer.
Eldred Bonecrusher	Posted - 2005.10.26 16:37:00 - [34] Originally by: vecdran Does anyone have a tried and tested Hawk setup? I'm looking to use one possibly for piratin, so it needs to be a general setup good against all ship types. I've been debating blasters + rockets and a warp scrambler vs. rails and standard launchers and a warp jammer. Did you even try reading the thread? No, you didnt...go read it for an answer.
vecdran	Posted - 2005.10.26 17:02:00 - [35] Edited by: vecdran on 26/10/2005 17:03:24 Originally by: Eldred Bonecrusher Originally by: vecdran Does anyone have a tried and tested Hawk setup? I'm looking to use one possibly for piratin, so it needs to be a general setup good against all ship types. I've been debating blasters + rockets and a warp scrambler vs. rails and standard launchers and a warp jammer. Did you even try reading the thread? No, you didnt...go read it for an answer. I see a bunch of mission running setups and several people posting hypothetical PvP setups. Oh, and a single AF vs. AF setup, which is not what I am after.
Icesail	Posted - 2005.10.26 20:11:00 - [36] My Hawk setup, for whats worth it.... (STICKER SHOCK WARNING) Highs - 3 x 125 T2, 1 Arby Light Missile Launcher Mids - 1 Giist Small Shield Booster, 1 Eut Cap recharger, 1 amp, 1 Giist AB Lows - 2 Mags Stabs II 125s track very well, with the Mags II you get a ROF of 2.1 secs on the guns, the missiles rof is 7 secs (put rockets and you get 1.8 secs on them). If you replace a Mag II for a tracking mod, you should be able to get away with putting T2 150s and still track well enough to hit fast frigates (have not tried that one yet) With the shield boosting bonus, you get almost 100 shield every 2 secs (pretty hard to break that tank) This setup works pretty good for NPC (great solo complex runner), since they usualy do not run away :) but it does have some issues when pvp (unless its a tournament). A Hawk is the perfect partner ship for a Harpy (when npcing). Have the Hawk tank, and have the harpy in gank mode :) BTW, I totaly love the hawk. Icesail Icesail
vecdran	Posted - 2005.10.26 23:43:00 - [37] Originally by: Icesail Edited by: Icesail on 26/10/2005 20:26:13 My Hawk setup, for whats worth it.... (STICKER SHOCK WARNING) Highs - 3 x 125 T2, 1 Arby Light Missile Launcher (or Dread rocket launcher) Mids - 1 Giist Small Shield Booster, 1 amp, 1 Giist AB, 1 Eut Cap recharger (or warp scrambler if you PVP solo, or webber if someone else scrambling) Lows - 2 Mags Stabs II If you are soloing pvp you could replace the Eut cap recharger for a warp scrambler (or the other one I can never remember the name). You may need to replace the missiles for rockets if you do that though (cpu issues) 125s track very well, with the Mags II you get a ROF of 2.1 secs on the guns, the missiles rof is 7 secs (put rockets and you get 1.8 secs on them). If you replace a Mag II for a tracking mod, you may be able to get away with putting T2 150s and still track well enough to hit fast frigates (have not tried that one yet) With the shield boosting bonus, you get almost 100 shield every 2 secs (pretty hard to break that tank). You can replace the amp for a EM hardner if you need, and still get 57 shield every 2 secs for a cost of 12 cap. If you have crystal implants it will higher. BTW, I totaly love the hawk. Side Note. Since you get no damage bonuses for the hybrid guns, try putting some arts or autocannons on the highs (with emp ammo) and Giros II on the lows. Element of suprize is half the battle. Icesail Thanks for the ideas. I won't be putting Gistii gear on my Hawk, I'm going to be using it as a disposable PvP ship. I'll keep my Gistii stuff on my Harpy ;)
Hoshi	Posted - 2005.10.27 01:35:00 - [38] Originally by: vecdran Does anyone have a tried and tested Hawk setup? I'm looking to use one possibly for piratin, so it needs to be a general setup good against all ship types. I've been debating blasters + rockets and a warp scrambler vs. rails and standard launchers and a warp jammer. For pvp I would say the hawk isn't fast and agile enough to use blasters. It got the highest mass of all assault frigates and considering all AFs have high mass to start that is really bad.
Slithereen	Posted - 2005.10.27 02:02:00 - [39] One thing to note is that the Hawk got really boosted by the missile changes. The sig factors now applied to missiles have no effect on standard light missiles since they are already on the bottom of the scale. But with the new missile skills, light missiles can shoot off more rapidly, travel much farther, do more damage and fly much faster than ever before. The proper setup for the Hawk is to make the missiles the main armament. I would just put a pair of 125mm rails for secondary armament, but put a couple of the best launchers you can find. Train up your missile skills. The medium shield booster will drain you quickly. Get a small shield booster II instead. For missions, I would put a small cold gas afterburner or AB II. Even an assault with an afterburner gets considerable less hits than an assault without one. Put two power diagnostics in the bottom slots. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
Ethan Tomlinson	Posted - 2005.10.27 04:35:00 - [40] how bout: 2 t2 125 rails, 1 t2 small nos, 1 t2 small energy neutralizer 1 gistii a type small shield booster, gistii a type afterburner, webber, scrambler, 2 t2 magnetic field stabs or 1 and a t2 PDU haha i would smoke ya rax with this setup
Ethan Tomlinson	Posted - 2005.10.27 04:36:00 - [41] or maybe not ya rax but i would smoke somethin or maybe its I been smokin something who the **** knows
vecdran	Posted - 2005.10.27 06:30:00 - [42] Edited by: vecdran on 27/10/2005 06:29:52 Yeah you'd be smoking something. Weed, because you are using a Gistii sb and ab for PvP.
ELECTR0FREAK	Posted - 2005.10.27 08:22:00 - [43] Originally by: vecdran Edited by: vecdran on 27/10/2005 06:29:52 Yeah you'd be smoking something. Weed, because you are using a Gistii sb and ab for PvP. On a setup with only 2 125mm IIs for damage I might add. -Electrofreak Discoverer of the Missile Damage Formula
000Hunter000	Posted - 2005.11.03 15:11:00 - [44] Hm, looking for a mission setup myself for a hawk, atm i can't be bothered to get me a harpy (+ it's got sentimental value cause it used to be my merlin untill i upgraded it ) What i found sofar is a discussion between fitting 150 or 125mm T2 rails... which is better? atm i got 2 standard arbie launchers and 2x T2 150mm, T2 small Shieldbooster and named EM hardner and a named explosive passive hardner (25%) which can also be switched for any of the other damage types (more EM?) So this will be purely for missions!!!
vecdran	Posted - 2005.11.03 15:54:00 - [45] Originally by: 000Hunter000 Hm, looking for a mission setup myself for a hawk, atm i can't be bothered to get me a harpy (+ it's got sentimental value cause it used to be my merlin untill i upgraded it ) What i found sofar is a discussion between fitting 150 or 125mm T2 rails... which is better? atm i got 2 standard arbie launchers and 2x T2 150mm, T2 small Shieldbooster and named EM hardner and a named explosive passive hardner (25%) which can also be switched for any of the other damage types (more EM?) So this will be purely for missions!!! 150's will cut it ok against lvl 3 missions, but they'll have trouble tracking the really fast drones and webbing frigates, and they're crap in PvP. 125's are easier to fit also.
Spurgo	Posted - 2005.11.28 13:30:00 - [46] I use this ship for pvp (not alone) and i have this fitting: 2 rocket launcher tec2 2 125 tec2 1 annoy EM ward 1 small shield booster 2 1 ab 120% 1 X5 enervator 2 Pdu tec2 With this fitting i can easily tank any other af or inty and hit at 10 kms in optimal range. The rof on rockets is amazyn (1.7 sec) so is theyr dmg output, like a DoT. The 125t2 can track almost anything. With the new passive shield tankin skill i think this Af will become more and more popular! Surely if CCP will put 4 launcher on this baby we will have the BEST af for sure! But also 3 launchers will fit well for me :)
Phoenicia	Posted - 2005.11.28 15:23:00 - [47] Here's something to consider in pvp: With two Signal Amplifier II's in the lows, you have near-inty lockspeed. Heavy Tackler anyone? "There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!"
Juryrig	Posted - 2005.12.24 09:00:00 - [48] Ok, so I'm looking to outfit a Hawk for small PvP Frig gangs, and I have two questions: 1)How essential is an AB? Can you do without it or not? 2)What's better for PvP tanking? An EM hardener,an all-encompassing shield hardener, or a shield boost amplifier? Anyways, here's what I thinking of: High: 2 named standard missile launchers (I can't use t2 yet) 2 150mm t2 rails Med: 1 small t2 Shield booster 1 shield hardener 1 AB 1 t2 Multispectral target jammer Low: 1 PDU 1 Ballistic Control ***(haven't gotten the hawk yet, so I'm not sure this will all fit)
Bumbe	Posted - 2006.01.05 20:36:00 - [49] what do you think about this outfitt. high 2 rockets tec II 2 blasters/nos med 2passiv EM hardner 1gistii small shield booster 1 webb/ab/MWD low 2 dmg mods/power diagnostic systems you will have high dmg, very nice tank, and you can kill ceptors(if you have webb)
J Dubbs	Posted - 2006.01.05 20:55:00 - [50] yeah i used hawks for a while for npc. high- 3x small Anode nutron blaster + free slot (i know, i know) mid - clarity ward sb thing, EM ward, cheap web, cheap AB. low - 2x Mag stabs. cost me about 16m isk total so its fairly disposable. could kill the 500k BS's easily. even managed to kill a 6m isk shadow serp in it (took like 40mins though)
Kyozoku	Posted - 2006.01.05 21:10:00 - [51] Originally by: Juryrig snippity Ab is a waste of a slot if you ask me. My advice would be to forget about tanking and devote all of your mids to ew. Tanking wont help your gang as much especially when you might not even be targeted. Actually my advice is to sell your hawk and buy 2 black birds.
SavageThrash	Posted - 2006.01.06 04:09:00 - [52] Heres my setup 3 light neutron t2 (or 125 mm rails) 1 gisti sb 1 hardner afterburner caprecharger 2 t2 pdu and a launcher if you can fit it This thing tanks like a beast i just turn my tank on and fly all day with it, i can tank multiple raven with it using the small gisti. Great for npc adn takign out any inty that gets to close with teh blaster. I tanked a wolf all day and he tanked me, both using faction tanks. Although when comign agaisnt bigger targets you gotta watch out. Espically for nossing ships. Nos = Dead fast.
TRAW sunspot	Posted - 2006.03.16 11:44:00 - [53] hey, I just have one question, can an assault frig kill a BS in pvp ? And if so what caldari assault frig would be able and with what setup ? greets
TRAW sunspot	Posted - 2006.03.18 01:13:00 - [54] any help please ?
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.03.18 06:18:00 - [55] Technically, yes, an AF can kill a BS in PVP. Realisticly, it's only going to happen if the BS pilot is a newbie, and doesn't have a large nos, droneskills, or frig/cruiser weapons/web to hit you with. If they have any of the above, you're most likely going to lose. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Ally Poo Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.24 10:16:00 - [56] Ok, maybe i thought i would re-open this since the hawks changed after the new patch, and heres my set up. this works for NPCing and as well a little team PvP. Dont work so well solo. Highs: 4x 'Malkuth' Standards Small Nos I Meds: Medium Shield Booster II Shield Hardener I 'Langour' Webber Lows: Reactor Control Unit II Co-Processor II Sleep is for the Dead.
CheneysGun Caldari The Phoenix Rising Free Space Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.05 12:17:00 - [57] New to hawk so I thought I would bump to get more newer setup info. erutangiS
Isolda Kargil	Posted - 2006.08.05 23:58:00 - [58] Edited by: Isolda Kargil on 05/08/2006 23:58:20 Hawk Standard Missile Launcher II [50xPiranha Precision Light Missile] Standard Missile Launcher II [50xSabretooth Precision Light Missile] Standard Missile Launcher II [50xFlameburst Precision Light Missile] Standard Missile Launcher II [50xBloodclaw Precision Light Missile] 75mm Gatling Rail II [200xSpike S] 1MN Afterburner II Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array 'Anointed' I EM Ward Reinforcement Ballistic Control System II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I 997 shield, 6.65/s, E/T/K/Ex=55/82/73/64 430 armor, E/T/K/Ex=65/88/67/21 300.0 cap, +7.97/s, -10.307/s 553.3181818181818 m/s 80 DPS on struct thereabouts It's not made for solo-pvp. But its good to scare away interceptors. TBH, I'd take an Ishkur or Enyo over this any day. -Isolda Advertising space for hire. Contact in game.
Wrayeth Inexorable Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.06 00:10:00 - [59] 4 arbalest rocket launchers 1 small nos 1 1MN MWD II 1 Gistii A-type small shield booster 1 magnetic scattering field II 1 fleeting warp scrambler 1 ballistic control system II 1 PDU II -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Lumberjackhammer	Posted - 2006.10.27 22:39:00 - [60] 4 tech 2 rocket launchers 1 tech 2 small shield booster 2 tech 2 passive hardners 1 cap recharger 2 BCU tech 2 works well as a mission runner, requires alot of fitting skills tho, another version is to fit a tech 2 medium shield extenderm drop the booster, and use hardners for the specific type of enemy, good enough passive tank, and you can also fit a target painter with that and go all tech 2 ammo, around 155 dps

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