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Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:44:00 - [61] Originally by: Merin Ryskin but there's a huge difference between that and shooting your political opponents in the head. There is indeed. Except this guy was neither a right winger nor a left winger. He was, by any measure, simply a schizophrenic nut and you're trying to capitalize on the actions of a nutcase to score a cheap politcal point.
stoicfaux Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:45:00 - [62] Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: Culmen So it wasn't a tea bagger. Just a regular style whack job Funny how people ignorant of the actual statistics like to imply that Tea Party members are prone to violence when it's two radical leftist movements, animal rights and environmental extremists, who are responsible for almost all terroristic attacks in the US. Mostly targetting property. If you go by body count, it's Muslims of course. Dead last? Right wing extremists. Oh, I don't know about that. Timothy McVeigh is probably in second place. Also, don't forget hate crimes, the people who died in the Civil Rights movement, the internment of Japanese-Americans in the US, Slavery, and the systematic killing of or forced relocation of the US Native Americans. Plenty of sin for everyone. ----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:45:00 - [63] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 09/01/2011 01:44:42 Originally by: Ademaro Imre Link some images. meh edit: you may note that the subject of OP conversation is on that list Trend. Do you know what a trend is?
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:46:00 - [64] Bring Palin to justice! Delenda est achura.
Okie Wren	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:46:00 - [65] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia meh edit: you may note that the subject of OP conversation is on that list I think that one has already been posted
Pr1ncess Alia	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:47:00 - [66] Originally by: Ademaro Imre Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 09/01/2011 01:44:42 Originally by: Ademaro Imre Link some images. meh edit: you may note that the subject of OP conversation is on that list Trend. Do you know what a trend is? i wasn't overly concerned with your specific argument. --- Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:50:00 - [67] Originally by: Merin Ryskin 1) I never said I approve of that either. 2) There's a difference between shooting at documents and hinting at violence against people, especially when you start listing specific names. Ever shoot a BB gun? They use crosshairs. Nerf guns use crosshairs too. My rubberband shooter has a crosshair. You're funny, because you can't even make the argument Loughner ever seen Palin's fundraiser letter. But, he has certainly acted on it. Do you believe in the same mind control as Loughner? Do you own any knives or guns that LEA should be aware of?
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:50:00 - [68] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Hint for the clueless: it's about violent revolution. You sure you're not talking about Obama's good friend Bill Ayers -- you know, the actual terrorist who wanted to bring down the government and who later editted and proofed Obama's autobiography? The guy whose home Obama's career started in? The guy who was part of an organization whose end game was to kill millions of Americans? Sounds like a shady character. Maybe we should look into him. ANd that Obama character too. He seems to hang around a lot revolutionary Marxists.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:55:00 - [69] Edited by: Jada Maroo on 09/01/2011 01:56:09 Originally by: stoicfaux Oh, I don't know about that. Timothy McVeigh is probably in second place. Also, don't forget hate crimes, the people who died in the Civil Rights movement, the internment of Japanese-Americans in the US, Slavery, and the systematic killing of or forced relocation of the US Native Americans. Plenty of sin for everyone. I was using the statistics from 1999 up to 2009. Timothy McVeigh was a remarkable exception and I believe he's second for body count in the modern era. In terms of raw numbers of attacks radical leftists have held the crown for decades though. The aforementioned Obama-buddy Bill Ayers accounted for several of them.
Okie Wren	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:58:00 - [70] Originally by: Ademaro Imre Ever shoot a BB gun? They use crosshairs. Nerf guns use crosshairs too. My rubberband shooter has a crosshair. Don't play coy. We all know that crosshairs are strongly associated with weapons, and no, they weren't thinking of the toy kind. I'm not trying to take sides here but you two have been going back and forth on this point for ages now.

stoicfaux Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:02:00 - [71] Originally by: Jada Maroo I like how you've not-so-subtley backtracked from implying Sarah Palin called for violence only to widdle yourself down to her "hinting" while pointing to vague "trends." You all are missing the point. The problem with "tasteless" images such as Palin's crosshairs and her "reload" slogan is that some idiot will take it to a new level. That idiot's stunt will often backlash all the way back. For example: Gifford's political opponent, Jesse Kelly, ran this advertisement: "Get on Target for Victory in November Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office Shoot a full automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly" And now we have some nut job who's facebook profile supposedly has Tea Party links. Which means that Palin can't even make the claim that she doesn't support violence in the political process. Her cutesy gun slogans and analogies have probably just ended her political career. ----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:03:00 - [72] Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 09/01/2011 02:03:34 Originally by: Okie Wren Originally by: Ademaro Imre Ever shoot a BB gun? They use crosshairs. Nerf guns use crosshairs too. My rubberband shooter has a crosshair. Don't play coy. We all know that crosshairs are strongly associated with weapons, and no, they weren't thinking of the toy kind. I'm not trying to take sides here but you two have been going back and forth on this point for ages now. Exactly, I am waiting for a plausible explanation as to why a crosshair is so symbolically more important than a bullseye that Democrats have repeatedly used to list Republicans. That's the part you need to follow.
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:05:00 - [73] Edited by: Selinate on 09/01/2011 02:05:58 Originally by: Ademaro Imre Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 09/01/2011 02:03:34 Originally by: Okie Wren Originally by: Ademaro Imre Ever shoot a BB gun? They use crosshairs. Nerf guns use crosshairs too. My rubberband shooter has a crosshair. Don't play coy. We all know that crosshairs are strongly associated with weapons, and no, they weren't thinking of the toy kind. I'm not trying to take sides here but you two have been going back and forth on this point for ages now. Exactly, I am waiting for a plausible explanation as to why a crosshair is so symbolically more important than a bullseye that Democrats have repeatedly used to list Republicans. That's the part you need to follow. Link to source? Your opponent at least posted this pic that they were referring to.
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:07:00 - [74] Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 09/01/2011 02:07:16 Originally by: stoicfaux And now we have some nut job who's facebook profile supposedly has Tea Party links. Which means that Palin can't even make the claim that she doesn't support violence in the political process. Her cutesy gun slogans and analogies have probably just ended her political career. As much as you may wish it to be true, Palin's career is not going to end. And, just to bring you to reality, the Communist Manifesto, that Loughner actually did say he liked on his social pages, is diametrically opposite of the Tea Party.
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:09:00 - [75] Originally by: Selinate Link to source? Your opponent at least posted this pic that they were referring to. I linked it a page back..... http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1445037&page=2#42
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:11:00 - [76] Originally by: Ademaro Imre Originally by: Selinate Link to source? Your opponent at least posted this pic that they were referring to. I linked it a page back..... http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1445037&page=2#42 Uh huh... And who exactly made that map?
stoicfaux Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:13:00 - [77] Originally by: Jada Maroo I was using the statistics from 1999 up to 2009. Timothy McVeigh was a remarkable exception and I believe he's second for body count in the modern era. In terms of raw numbers of attacks radical leftists have held the crown for decades though. The aforementioned Obama-buddy Bill Ayers accounted for several of them. Yes, and then we get into the "lies, damn lies, and statistics." I'll raise you with "Bush illegally invaded Iraq" and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. You can counter with "how many unborn children were murdered by leftist abortion doctors." Tit for tat, ad nauseum. Can we agree to end this particular line of argument of who has the greater body count, attack count, monetary damage done, etc.? ----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:14:00 - [78] Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Ademaro Imre Originally by: Selinate Link to source? Your opponent at least posted this pic that they were referring to. I linked it a page back..... http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1445037&page=2#42 Uh huh... And who exactly made that map? This appears to be difficult for you to understand. Democrats made all the maps UNDER the 1st one.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:14:00 - [79] Originally by: stoicfaux Which means that Palin can't even make the claim that she doesn't support violence in the political process. Her cutesy gun slogans and analogies have probably just ended her political career. That's a massive stretch, and not one that's going to take root. Seriously, what I'm hearing here is "hints at" and "trends" and now you're pointing at a perfectly benign slogan used by a hunter who regularly tosses hunting terminology and trying to skew it to imply murder terminology. You really think anyone other than a hardcore leftist is going to buy? That's just not going to happen. Oh and by the way - remember that guy who tried to shoot the city council members down in Florida a couple weeks back? Guess what he had a link on his Facebook page. Media Matters for America.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:15:00 - [80] Originally by: Ademaro Imre Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 09/01/2011 02:07:16 Originally by: stoicfaux And now we have some nut job who's facebook profile supposedly has Tea Party links. Which means that Palin can't even make the claim that she doesn't support violence in the political process. Her cutesy gun slogans and analogies have probably just ended her political career. As much as you may wish it to be true, Palin's career is not going to end. And, just to bring you to reality, the Communist Manifesto, that Loughner actually did say he liked on his social pages, is diametrically opposite of the Tea Party. What about when he admits Palins encouragement to shoot political opponants was what put him over the edge, is it over then or will the commie ghost plea to that too? Delenda est achura.

Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:18:00 - [81] Originally by: Ademaro Imre This appears to be difficult for you to understand. Democrats made all the maps UNDER the 1st one. That's a really good find. I follow this stuff pretty closely and that's the first time I'd seen all the Democrat-made bull's eye / target maps. Kind of pulls the rug right out from under them on this one. Hopefully, if this comes up tomorrow on MSNBC, which I'm sure it will, those will be used as ammunition to fire back. Oh noes, I used a gun analogy!
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:21:00 - [82] Originally by: Ademaro Imre Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Ademaro Imre Originally by: Selinate Link to source? Your opponent at least posted this pic that they were referring to. I linked it a page back..... http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1445037&page=2#42 Uh huh... And who exactly made that map? This appears to be difficult for you to understand. Democrats made all the maps UNDER the 1st one. No, the difficulty is yours. You're blaming one map made by a Democrat named Will Marshall. Does anyone here know a good deal about this Will Marshall? No. That's because no one cares. The second one? Made by the Democratic Congress Campaign Committee? Are we going to start arguing about this??? Really? Do you understand how absolutely moronic this is? These are the asswipes who are in charge of getting Democrats into office, and yes, just like Republican campaign members, they will smear and say horrible things to get those politicians into office. Is it any better? No. But... Where your idiocy comes in is that you begin saying "THE DEMOCRATS MADE THIS MAP!!!" as if it's some representation of all the Democrats in the U.S. It's not. The map posted by others IS a representation of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party movement. Bringing up some obscure map made by obscure people to make a blanket statement about all democrats is just pure... Dear god, you're the kind of person we need to ship to an island and let you live on your own to have your own ideals and shout them at yourself all day...
stoicfaux Gallente	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:21:00 - [83] Originally by: Ademaro Imre As much as you may wish it to be true, Palin's career is not going to end. I forgot the word 'may' as in 'may end her career.' My bad. One thing I've learned is that nothing is "for sure" in politics. Quote: And, just to bring you to reality, the Communist Manifesto, that Loughner actually did say he liked on his social pages, is diametrically opposite of the Tea Party. Correct, the guy has links and odd references and enough crazy talk that I don't think he can be linked to any political party. He was a mentally disturbed individual with a gun and an extended clip. None of the mainstream politicians on the left or right endorse shooting politicians and strangers in real life. So let's drop the whole "the shooting was caused by the Left/Right" game, please? ----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
Selinate Amarr Wardens of the Void	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:24:00 - [84] Originally by: stoicfaux None of the mainstream politicians on the left or right endorse shooting politicians and strangers in real life. Debatable... Some politicians are just truly scumbags, but I do agree that blaming this tragedy on either side is just absolutely asinine...
Joe Phoenix	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:25:00 - [85] Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 09/01/2011 02:26:58 Oh MERIN is on this thread!! I can poke fun at the fat lexbian and nobody will care because everyone hates her/his face edit: are you still in pain after your last public butt-****ing?
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:25:00 - [86] Originally by: stoicfaux So let's drop the whole "the shooting was caused by the Left/Right" game, please? Agreed, because this guy can't be pinned on anyone. Besides, the more we try to shift responsibility onto some other group or ideology, the less responsibility we place on the murdering sack of crap. I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that.
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:28:00 - [87] Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 09/01/2011 02:28:38 The guns I keep locked up will probably get blamed for this. I haven't shot anybody and will also get blamed for this. Nut Jobs Youtube channel is still up
Joe Phoenix	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:29:00 - [88] Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: stoicfaux So let's drop the whole "the shooting was caused by the Left/Right" game, please? Agreed, because this guy can't be pinned on anyone. Besides, the more we try to shift responsibility onto some other group or ideology, the less responsibility we place on the murdering sack of crap. I'm not sure why anyone would want to do that. What kill a corrupt politician? WOW thats such a crazy idea i bet nobody in the world has done that before!
Okie Wren	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:30:00 - [89] Originally by: Joe Phoenix Edited by: Joe Phoenix on 09/01/2011 02:26:58 Oh MERIN is on this thread!! I can poke fun at the fat lexbian and nobody will care because everyone hates her/his face edit: are you still in pain after your last public butt-****ing? Where's my blasted trailer, Joe!
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.09 02:31:00 - [90] Originally by: Selinate Bringing up some obscure map made by obscure people to make a blanket statement about all democrats is just pure... Dear god, you're the kind of person we need to ship to an island and let you live on your own to have your own ideals and shout them at yourself all day... Representatives of a political party, and operating arms of a political party are obscure to you? What is moronic, is not reading this thread, then making your post. When someone claims that crosshairs get people killed and its a trend within one political party, they need to explain why bullseyes do not and why the other political party practices exactly the same type of political fundraising. That's what I asked.



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