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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 02:54:00 -
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WTF CCP ? We are not all uber earning programmers or computer specialists and as such cannot afford the very latest pc's. Your brain child will now no longer even let me enter the game, as it now requires "SSE2 Processor Support" to play. I googled the info and went to a site that offers an explanation for free (CPU-Z)and it informed me that my pc only supports "SSE". So whos wise idea was it to exclude a large proportion of your devoted PAYING clients by making the update useless to us. Wake up and re-adjust please....this is one P1553D off bunny
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Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:01:00 -
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8 years.
That's how old SSE2 is.
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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:02:00 -
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and your point is what? as i staed we cannot all afford the lastest and shiniest toys to have fun with
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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:05:00 -
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some of us have to make do with what we have
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Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:08:00 -
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An Athlon 64 or Pentium 4 are nowhere near "latest and greatest", they're several generations behind the time.
Then Athlon 64 was released in 2003, the Pentium 4 was released in 2000. SSE2 got released in 2003, meaning it's an 8 year old technology.
To give you an idea of how old that is, I was still using my Athlon XP back in those days.
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Sir Ibex
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:09:00 -
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Edited by: Sir Ibex on 19/01/2011 03:09:25
Watch how a bunch of people will come in and start telling you how you should stop being a cheapass and go buy a better PC cause yours is ANCIENT. That's what they told me when I complained that my laptop's video card could no longer run this thing after that annoying update. I felt so betrayed.. So insulted... : (
Wake up man... NO ONE CARES. You don't like? Go quit. Go cry. Whatever. Don't forget to shut the door on your way out. No one will miss ya. CCP doesn't care, and most people don't care either. See that is why eve is so "good". (not sure if good is the right word in this case) It teaches you REAL LIFE lessons, because a lot of what is happening in EVE happens in real life. It is just as tough and merciless, and good at pointing out your weak sides.
EVE sometimes makes me almost want to cry...
Eve managed to:
1)Point out that I have unstable nerves. How I stress over petty things.
2)Showed me that I am an uneducated man, and what is more important, it showed me how important it is to be educated in today's world.
3)Showed me that I suck at BASIC math. And how much it sucks to suck at math.
4)Allowed me to see how much of a mistake it was not to learn programming when I was younger. How many years I wasted for nothing.
5)Showed me how I cant manage my time. Showed me how antisocial I am.
EVE (in some ways) contributed to me:
1)Coming back to college, getting a job.
2)Starting to work on myself and many aspects of my life.
3)Pay attention to things happening outside of my little comfort zone/bubble I have been living in all my life.
4)Perceiving myself and other people differently....
And I only told you a little... I can keep going and going...
EDIT: Oh ****.. As I was writing this, people already came in and said exactly what I told you they would say. Those damned pricks...
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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:18:00 -
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Thats a funny reply ibex. The point I was making is still valid though. It's one thing to be asked to replace a video card, which I have done, but to have to replace a pc is quite another. I am not a cheap ass. I have limited abilities to afford an upgrade of that magnitude
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sukmanobov
Minmatar
The Priesthood
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Sir Ibex
Edited by: Sir Ibex on 19/01/2011 03:09:25
Watch how a bunch of people will come in and start telling you how you should stop being a cheapass and go buy a better PC cause yours is ANCIENT. That's what they told me when I complained that my laptop's video card could no longer run this thing after that annoying update. I felt so betrayed.. So insulted... : (
Wake up man... NO ONE CARES. You don't like? Go quit. Go cry. Whatever. Don't forget to shut the door on your way out. No one will miss ya. CCP doesn't care, and most people don't care either. See that is why eve is so "good". (not sure if good is the right word in this case) It teaches you REAL LIFE lessons, because a lot of what is happening in EVE happens in real life. It is just as tough and merciless, and good at pointing out your weak sides.
EVE sometimes makes me almost want to cry...
Eve managed to:
1)Point out that I have unstable nerves. How I stress over petty things.
2)Showed me that I am an uneducated man, and what is more important, it showed me how important it is to be educated in today's world.
3)Showed me that I suck at BASIC math. And how much it sucks to suck at math.
4)Allowed me to see how much of a mistake it was not to learn programming when I was younger. How many years I wasted for nothing.
5)Showed me how I cant manage my time. Showed me how antisocial I am.
EVE (in some ways) contributed to me:
1)Coming back to college, getting a job.
2)Starting to work on myself and many aspects of my life.
3)Pay attention to things happening outside of my little comfort zone/bubble I have been living in all my life.
4)Perceiving myself and other people differently....
And I only told you a little... I can keep going and going...
EDIT: Oh ****.. As I was writing this, people already came in and said exactly what I told you they would say. Those damned pricks...
in short his machines sucks...
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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:20:00 -
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and again with "Your point is what, exactly?"...obviously have a rich pimp to afford your dowtime activities
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Maximillian Franek
Caldari
Muppet Factory
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:22:00 -
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Well, here's a point. You don't *need* the "latest or shiniest toys" to run the new client. All you need is a PC that can support SSE2. So, you can buy any old hunk of junk from a pawn shop or whatever which was built after 2003 (just be sure to check that it supports SSE2, you want to be thorough). A computer that old should really only cost you like $100 TOPS. Hey presto, you can play eve again.
What you have to realise is, that EVE has always been an evolving game. It was never going to be able to be run by the original system requirements FOREVER. All that would do is hold the game back, and for what? To please the (very) few players who have a PC which is more than 8 years old? Not gonna happen. Personally, I think CCP have been very forgiving with the system requirements. They could have raised them a WHOLE lot more, and made the client far more resource hungry in order to get it to do more, but they haven't, for people just like you. So cut them some slack and save up $100 for a "new" PC.
Cheers!
Max :)
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Space Miyabi
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:24:00 -
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Guys, Windows XP is 10 years old and it is fully supported. For those who say that "your system is too old" (well it runs eve FINE) I would like to see if CCP makes EVE only for windows 7.
Windows XP users would rage.
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Maximillian Franek
Caldari
Muppet Factory
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:28:00 -
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Also, you don't have to replace your entire PC. You can just replace the CPU, which is (in a lot of cases) cheaper than replacing a video card.
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Troll Bear
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Grez
An Athlon 64 or Pentium 4 are nowhere near "latest and greatest", they're several generations behind the time.
Then Athlon 64 was released in 2003, the Pentium 4 was released in 2000. SSE2 got released in 2003, meaning it's an 8 year old technology.
Pentium 4's actually support SSE2. In fact, SSE2 was released on that very processor in 2001. I just threw away five 3GHz P4's because I couldn't give them away. I should have waited for CCP to release this patch I guess. I could have sold them for $40 ea. to everyone who says they can't afford to upgrade. People, there are definitely cheap machines out there that will still play EVE just fine. 
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Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Space Miyabi
Guys, Windows XP is 10 years old and it is fully supported. For those who say that "your system is too old" (well it runs eve FINE) I would like to see if CCP makes EVE only for windows 7.
Windows XP users would rage.
Operating Systems are a completely different kettle of fish, and if you were educated in this field you would know this... There is not much difference between XP, Vista or 7 beyond creating a library which automatically changes certain API calls depending on which OS you're on, the same cannot be done for SSE2.
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Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:29:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 19/01/2011 03:30:22
Originally by: Troll Bear
Originally by: Grez
An Athlon 64 or Pentium 4 are nowhere near "latest and greatest", they're several generations behind the time.
Then Athlon 64 was released in 2003, the Pentium 4 was released in 2000. SSE2 got released in 2003, meaning it's an 8 year old technology.
Pentium 4's actually support SSE2. In fact, SSE2 was released on that very processor in 2001. I just threw away five 3GHz P4's because I couldn't give them away. I should have waited for CCP to release this patch I guess. I could have sold them for $40 ea. to everyone who says they can't afford to upgrade. People, there are definitely cheap machines out there that will still play EVE just fine.
You might want to read my post again... I stated those processors are the earliest ones to support SSE2, although you might not have read it as such. By saying what I did, I meant that those processors are not the latest and greatest, yet they support it.
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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:37:00 -
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All of which is highly interesting stuff but rather departs from the fact that not all the people who pay to play are equipped to finance this to any other level than the one they are at...are we now honestly saying that only the wealthy are allowed to play in here ?
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Troll Bear
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
are we now honestly saying that only the wealthy are allowed to play in here ?
I'm far from wealthy, much closer to poverty than wealthy, and I'm on a fixed income yet I play EVE just fine. My computer is also very far from the latest and greatest, probably 5 years old now.
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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Space Miyabi
Guys, Windows XP is 10 years old and it is fully supported. For those who say that "your system is too old" (well it runs eve FINE) I would like to see if CCP makes EVE only for windows 7.
Windows XP users would rage.
You obviously have a poor grasp of the English language. I never stated that my OS was not up to the new standard, I stated that the new standard requires the pcs' cpu to have SSE2 Support....two totally separte subjects
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Xiangxiang Gong
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
All of which is highly interesting stuff but rather departs from the fact that not all the people who pay to play are equipped to finance this to any other level than the one they are at...are we now honestly saying that only the wealthy are allowed to play in here ?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Its not that hard to affort a Processor thats less than 7 years old. Hell you could puy one from ebay for about 10 bucks.
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Mr Cumblaster
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Xiangxiang Gong
Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
All of which is highly interesting stuff but rather departs from the fact that not all the people who pay to play are equipped to finance this to any other level than the one they are at...are we now honestly saying that only the wealthy are allowed to play in here ?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Its not that hard to affort a Processor thats less than 7 years old. Hell you could puy one from ebay for about 10 bucks.
What part of "I am the church mouses' poor relation" did you not understand....am I not speaking correctly or do ppl just not understand that some of us are unable to afford anything new or even used
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Xiangxiang Gong
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Cumblaster
Originally by: Xiangxiang Gong
Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
All of which is highly interesting stuff but rather departs from the fact that not all the people who pay to play are equipped to finance this to any other level than the one they are at...are we now honestly saying that only the wealthy are allowed to play in here ?
Are you too dense to understand this?
Its not that hard to affort a Processor thats less than 7 years old. Hell you could puy one from ebay for about 10 bucks.
What part of "I am the church mouses' poor relation" did you not understand....am I not speaking correctly or do ppl just not understand that some of us are unable to afford anything new or even used
Tell me then, how are you actually able to afford EvE online?
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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:58:00 -
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The one thing I do afford myself as a present is the annual subscription and b4 you go on about paying using isk....forget it...I like the way I do it...it seems more honest...I know...daft or what
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Xiangxiang Gong
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Posted - 2011.01.19 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
The one thing I do afford myself as a present is the annual subscription and b4 you go on about paying using isk....forget it...I like the way I do it...it seems more honest...I know...daft or what
And you can't save up 10 bucks to buy a processor? I mean c'mon its 10 bucks.
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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:03:00 -
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Try working for a cheap-assed frenchman who wouldnt afford us the time of day let alone a pay increase to cover the cost of inflation and then you'd have a fair approximation of my personal finances
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Xiangxiang Gong
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
Try working for a cheap-assed frenchman who wouldnt afford us the time of day let alone a pay increase to cover the cost of inflation and then you'd have a fair approximation of my personal finances
Sorry for you mate. I hope they'll add support for older systems with a new update.
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Eulysees Chelt
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:09:00 -
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lol....this was the new update
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Dare Knight
Minmatar
Freelance Mining Company
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
and again with "Your point is what, exactly?"...obviously have a rich pimp to afford your dowtime activities
Just gtfo dude. Nobody here is stinking rich, but some people can afford a $30 part if we put the cheeseburger and latte down for a day.
If you can't keep up with the times (8 years old, SSE2 is), then just gtfo and quit your useless complaining. Oh, wait. You don't have a choice, you HAVE to gtfo.
One less whiner.
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Mr Cumblaster
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Posted - 2011.01.19 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dare Knight
Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
and again with "Your point is what, exactly?"...obviously have a rich pimp to afford your dowtime activities
Just gtfo dude. Nobody here is stinking rich, but some people can afford a $30 part if we put the cheeseburger and latte down for a day.
If you can't keep up with the times (8 years old, SSE2 is), then just gtfo and quit your useless complaining. Oh, wait. You don't have a choice, you HAVE to gtfo.
One less whiner.
so you beleive that two days notice is adequate doy you
changes to cpu requirements with incursion 1.1.0
reported by CCP Zulu | 2011.01.16 23:16:02 | Comments
TL;DR: CPUs that don't support the SSE2 instruction set will not be able to run EVE Online after the Incursion 1.1.0 deployment on Tuesday, January 18, 2011. This will cause players still using Intel Pentium 3 or older and AMD Athlon XP or older CPUs to not be able to run the EVE Online client. Athlon 64 CPUs are not affected.
During the testing of Incursion 1.1.0 we received reports of a seemingly random issue that caused the client to crash on startup. While some of our Singularity testers reported the issue, we weren't able to replicate it. The error log that was generated didn't prove to be helpful, and due to the extremely few reports we received on it, we couldn't take the investigation further.
In an epiphany moment, a diligent tester figured out that some of the third party binaries we use to run EVE Online had been updated recently. Looking further into the issue, we found that a feature had been turned on that used the SSE2 instruction set and the unexpected fallout was that non-SSE2 capable CPUs became incompatible.
We've looked at hardware trend reports and the general status of the market and this obsolete generation of CPUs in desktop computers and gaming rigs is nearly extinct. We estimate that around 0.3% of the playerbase will be affected. We have, therefore, decided to not let this block the deployment of Incursion 1.1.0. An info message that pops up when you start the client on a non-SSE2 capable machine has been added for clarification. We urge everyone who encounters this specific error to submit a petition to our customer support department. We will have updates on the next steps we take with this issue immediately after the weekend but we wanted to get a blog up ASAP to inform everyone about the issue.
Cheers,
CCP Zulu
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Mr Cumblaster
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:01:00 -
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check the date b4 you run your mouth on subjects that you are not familiar with....1 1/2 day notice to change a pc is a large ask of anyone
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Dare Knight
Minmatar
Freelance Mining Company
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Posted - 2011.01.19 05:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dare Knight on 19/01/2011 05:09:06
Edited by: Dare Knight on 19/01/2011 05:07:38
Originally by: Mr Cumblaster
check the date b4 you run your mouth on subjects that you are not familiar with....1 1/2 day notice to change a pc is a large ask of anyone
Guess I was wrong to keep up with the world of technology even moderately knowing I was playing a genre of game that evolves over time and adapts new tech. Who'd have ever thought. Did I say above that 2 days was enough time to update a pc? No. Read before opening that hole in your face, good sir.
(SSE2.... 8 years old....)
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