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Mijano Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.21 20:50:00 - [1] Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:31 Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:06 I was going to answer to a subject, not create a new one, yet I managed to mess up and here we are so I'll take this opportunity to whine a bit. Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are. It doesn't feel right. Perhaps this will change later on with scars and piercings, but there's only as much accessories can do. ___
Mirabi Tiane	Posted - 2011.01.21 20:58:00 - [2] Most capsuleers only murder from afar, while floating safe and naked in a pod full of goo. _____________________________ ¬DesuSig
Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse	Posted - 2011.01.21 20:58:00 - [3] This almost sounds like a..."Should I wear a suit or sweats to my trial?"...question. [21EL] Commander Tac-Ops / [21EL] I.S.C.
Mijano Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.21 20:59:00 - [4] Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 21:00:20 Originally by: Mirabi Tiane Most capsuleers only murder from afar, while floating safe and naked in a pod full of goo. Yes. You are a funny guy. Pathetic, but funny. Okay: Probably more pathetic and violently stupid, but that's kind of funny. Originally by: Syn Callibri This almost sounds like a..."Should I wear a suit or sweats to my trial?"...question. No. It doesn't. We look way too clean. Perhaps you dig it - I have no problem with that! I'm just looking for opinions because it just feels weird looking so clean, although of course this is better than an astronaut suit, but two wrongs doesn't make a right. ___
Kuhn Arashi Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.21 20:59:00 - [5] Its people choosing to look like that. you can make yourself have some character if you really want. besides covered in pod goo isn't all that glamorous really. Aside from that, even the lowest pod pirate is still a pod pilot and per the lore they are part of the elite of the universe.
Mijano Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Kuhn Arashi Its people choosing to look like that. you can make yourself have some character if you really want. besides covered in pod goo isn't all that glamorous really. Aside from that, even the lowest pod pirate is still a pod pilot and per the lore they are part of the elite of the universe. It doesn't feel as if I can. I honestly don't know how I'll change my Brutor without looking even more like Jay-Z, 2pac or random American rap-artist. ___
Nemesis Factor Caldari Telanus' Reach	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:05:00 - [7] The average capsuleer's skin is, what, weeks old? We die so often we get to keep baby smooth skin our entire lives. Also, pod goo is good for the pores. ==================== ~/~ Sultan of Buruni
Kuhn Arashi Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Mijano Originally by: Kuhn Arashi Its people choosing to look like that. you can make yourself have some character if you really want. besides covered in pod goo isn't all that glamorous really. Aside from that, even the lowest pod pirate is still a pod pilot and per the lore they are part of the elite of the universe. It doesn't feel as if I can. I honestly don't know how I'll change my Brutor without looking even more like Jay-Z, 2pac or random American rap-artist. I get a slight hint of racism from this.
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:08:00 - [9] Originally by: Mijano Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are. Hey it's just a layer of make-up you're looking at .. any idea how much time it takes to work away those scars with the best primer? No?
Whitehound The Whitehound Corporation Hounds of Anarchy	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:08:00 - [10] Think about this: Where does a new clone get its scaring from?!? If your clone was cheap and has got scarring then it is probably second-hand. --

Spinejuicer	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:10:00 - [11] Fresh clones looking fresh? Who'da thunk it!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:12:00 - [12] Why would we look any different just because we're "hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf-"? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Mijano Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:12:00 - [13] Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 21:15:23 Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 21:13:54 Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 21:12:25 Originally by: Kuhn Arashi Originally by: Mijano Originally by: Kuhn Arashi Its people choosing to look like that. you can make yourself have some character if you really want. besides covered in pod goo isn't all that glamorous really. Aside from that, even the lowest pod pirate is still a pod pilot and per the lore they are part of the elite of the universe. It doesn't feel as if I can. I honestly don't know how I'll change my Brutor without looking even more like Jay-Z, 2pac or random American rap-artist. I get a slight hint of racism from this. I don't really have a response to this. All you need to know is that I'm not a racist, and that I don't want to look like a rap artist when I drive my Hurricane. Right now I don't. If I change my character I will. Originally by: Jennifer Starling Originally by: Mijano Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are. Hey it's just a layer of make-up you're looking at .. any idea how much time it takes to work away those scars with the best primer? No? Actually I don't! Originally by: Tippia Why would we look any different just because we're "hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf-"? Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war. EDIT: Your theory about the clones might actually work for me logic-wise. ___
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:14:00 - [14] Originally by: Whitehound Think about this: Where does a new clone get its scaring from?!? If your clone was cheap and has got scarring then it is probably second-hand. There's another way of looking at that, clones are fairly bland so they pay for scaring to be added just to give them character. Or they wish to keep a previous scare by making arrangements for it to be added to the replacement clone. If we assume that we stay in the pod until death then we would get no scaring. But as the intention is to walk around stations then we can assume that is not the case.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:23:00 - [15] Originally by: Mijano Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war. So do pilots when properly dolled up for a professional photo session. I'm just not seeing the causal connection you're assuming here. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Mijano Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Mijano Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war. So do pilots when properly dolled up for a professional photo session. I'm just not seeing the causal connection you're assuming here. Okay. I'll buy that we would look better taking our pilot-photo, or whatever. This theory does only work if we look more worn out when we engage in 3D-environments later on. Of course the clone-theory works as well ... Yet I can't say I'm a big fan of this, but it's not like I can do much about it. I just hope that later on with additions it will become more realistic or whatever. ___
Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:30:00 - [17] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/01/2011 21:32:40 Originally by: Mijano Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war. Correction...I do not a) look kind b)am not smiling c) look like a soldier d) look like my nose was broken at some point e) have a scar on my lip and left cheek. In short...you're wrong. [21EL] Commander Tac-Ops / [21EL] I.S.C.
Mijano Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Syn Callibri Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/01/2011 21:32:40 Originally by: Mijano Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war. Correction...I do not a) look kind b)am not smiling c) look like a soldier d) look like my nose was broken at some point e) have a scar on my lip and left cheek. In short...you're wrong. If you recall I paid you a compliment about how soldiery you looked, but perhaps I'm just not that rememberable. ___
Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:38:00 - [19] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/01/2011 21:39:55 I remember...and my "ear...yes ear" is too big. I just disagree with your generalization...thats all. [21EL] Commander Tac-Ops / [21EL] I.S.C.
LaneHacker Band of Freelancers Turdz Asshatz N Grieferz	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:53:00 - [20] Do you see me smiling mother ****er?!! =The original jet-can specialist=

Badger Molester The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple	Posted - 2011.01.21 21:59:00 - [21] Some of us just take pride in our appearance!
Blackjack Turner Caldari Inverted Awareness	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:00:00 - [22] Originally by: LaneHacker Do you see me smiling mother **er?!! I was gonna comment on the OP, but this guy says it all. Nuff said *******************************************************
Mijano Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:23:00 - [23] Originally by: LaneHacker Do you see me smiling mother ****er?!! It was kind of unnecessary of you to call me that, but I will agree that your picture is indeed very good. ___
Alhambra Rainwalker Caldari Rosa Alba Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:32:00 - [24] Although expressions are bit limited atm, you can definitely get some emotion in your pictures if you take your time. Or you can look like hideous troll if you fail.
Florestan Bronstein	Posted - 2011.01.21 22:48:00 - [25] Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 21/01/2011 22:50:28 play with the values for age, scarring, ... and you can arrive at a more realistic look. Also consider lightning - many people seem to use very bright lightning on their portraits (which can make small imperfections even less visible ... or highlight more accentuated ones). Have a look at the picture for this character (link to big version) - the wrinkles seem to be too strong and he could have a little more freckles but apart from that I am quite happy with him. I think many people think "OMG I don't want to look like I am 80 with freckles and scars all over my face" and ignore the aging options completely while still trying to go for a somewhat mature look - most 20-something year olds I know IRL have more skin imperfections than the average 10-30 years older EVE avatar.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.01.21 23:30:00 - [26] Part of the reason that everyone looks clean and polished is that I highly suspect that OUR AVATARS OUR NOT YET FINALIZED. "As we expect very high number of characters to be created in the initial days after launch, we might decide to use lower quality textures for the portraits while getting over the initial tsunami of characters, but then redo them in higher quality in the days thereafter." I think that what we see currently in-game and in forums is NOT what the system is capable of rendering, so even people's do-over avatars will be changed AGAIN once CCP gets around to rendering them. If anyone can confirm or deny this, it would be greatly appreciated! I've petitioned with CCP for an answer, but only get canned responses...
Horizonist Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.01.21 23:31:00 - [27] You are assuming all capsuleers are "evil", some of us arent, and we are fine looking like good guys.
Carnella	Posted - 2011.01.21 23:48:00 - [28] I've been wondering, myself, why so many avatars end up looking plastic or airbrushed. I guess it's people going for a high level of light intensity and not using any of the complexion textures to compensate. I've done three characters in the new creator, and they've all come out looking almost photorealistic, I think. To take issue with one thing you've said, though, my character isn't a soldier. She's more of an explorer, really, though in any case, I don't think there's any requirement to be a murderous mutant just because you fly a spaceship.
Cathy Drall Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.01.21 23:54:00 - [29] Edited by: Cathy Drall on 21/01/2011 23:54:42 Originally by: Mijano Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are. It doesn't feel right. Perhaps this will change later on with scars and piercings, but there's only as much accessories can do. I don't recall 7 of 9 looking very bad for a merciless space conqueror? Next to that: you don't have to look evil to commit evil deeds.
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:01:00 - [30] Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 22/01/2011 00:01:37 Originally by: Mijano No. It doesn't. We look way too clean. Perhaps you dig it - I have no problem with that! I'm just looking for opinions because it just feels weird looking so clean, although of course this is better than an astronaut suit, but two wrongs doesn't make a right. When you recreate your avatar, play with the three sliders under Complexion. The "scarring" slider on a low setting adds subtle things like remnant acne pock marks and shaving bumps to male faces. At higher settings the scars become more prominent. At the highest setting you get Adama-face!

Sophia Amelia Stone	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:05:00 - [31] Originally by: Cathy Drall Edited by: Cathy Drall on 21/01/2011 23:54:42 Originally by: Mijano Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are. It doesn't feel right. Perhaps this will change later on with scars and piercings, but there's only as much accessories can do. I don't recall 7 of 9 looking very bad for a merciless space conqueror? Next to that: you don't have to look evil to commit evil deeds. 7 of 9 did before she had most of her implants removed.
Ice Dragons	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:06:00 - [32] Originally by: Mijano Okay. I'll buy that we would look better taking our pilot-photo, or whatever. This theory does only work if we look more worn out when we engage in 3D-environments later on. Of course the clone-theory works as well ... Yet I can't say I'm a big fan of this, but it's not like I can do much about it. I just hope that later on with additions it will become more realistic or whatever. Any time you want to leave your life as a POD pilot and go dirt side to sc**** by in life yer most welcome to depart the ranks of immortal godlike beings and follow your scar filled grubby destiny.
Teranul	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:14:00 - [33] I, for one, am most appreciative of my apparent youth and am more than happy to indulge in it.
Agarwaen Macil Caldari Est Deus In Nobis	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:17:00 - [34] To the OP, reading the EVE Chronicle, "Hands of a Killer", might give you some perspective on why some characters (or most) looked so polished. Our characters are capsuleers, not bottom of the totem pole thugs meeking out an existence on some backwater planetoid, at least as far as the lore goes. We are an elite segment of the galactic civilization, very powerful, and very rich (even a new player is far more affluent than a regular person on a planet would be). A battleship, even with a capsuleer as a pilot, still requires thousands of personnel to man it. If we did all of our killing with our own hands, we would drown in the blood.
Zey Nadar Gallente Unknown Soldiers The Spire Collective	Posted - 2011.01.22 01:02:00 - [35] Edited by: Zey Nadar on 22/01/2011 01:03:33 Originally by: Kuhn Arashi Its people choosing to look like that. you can make yourself have some character if you really want. It does bother me a bit that the character creator doesn't have tattoos, piercings or those metallic implant-looking things that it used to have. Or maybe those are only available to some bloodlines? D:
Sophia Amelia Stone	Posted - 2011.01.22 01:06:00 - [36] Originally by: Zey Nadar Edited by: Zey Nadar on 22/01/2011 01:03:33 Originally by: Kuhn Arashi Its people choosing to look like that. you can make yourself have some character if you really want. It does bother me a bit that the character creator doesn't have tattoos, piercings or those metallic implant-looking things that it used to have. Or maybe those are only available to some bloodlines? D: Those kind of things are on the cards to be introduced later.
Vabjekf Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.22 06:22:00 - [37] I think its better to be a pretty clean model-like murderous violent sociopath.
Yuki Kulotsuki	Posted - 2011.01.22 06:30:00 - [38] I hope some of the upcoming improvements help us look more clean cut and friendly. LE > CE Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
Mijano Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.22 17:35:00 - [39] Okay, people ... I have now changed my look and I am indeed very happy with the outcome of it. Do I now look more dangerous? More murderous? Perhaps I really am I nice guy just like my mother keeps saying? Perhaps I'm not unlovable, after all? ___
Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.22 17:38:00 - [40] Tattoo's, piercings, and... etc.... will be coming out at a later date. I'm no game developer, but I would think that just making 1 texture to cover all of someone's skin would be easier than all the other features, and hence released more quickly, but anywho, just wait a bit, you'll see all sorts of scars and metal plates eventually.

Valandria Koshun Caldari Morior Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.22 18:00:00 - [41] Originally by: Mijano Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:31 Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:06 Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are. no one of the people i kill will see my face, so its ridiculous to think about it and even pretty people are able to kill you the thing about the pod and the new skin for you clone is discussed already
Rusty Sprocket	Posted - 2011.01.22 18:45:00 - [42] Originally by: Mijano Originally by: Kuhn Arashi It doesn't feel as if I can. I honestly don't know how I'll change my Brutor without looking even more like Jay-Z, 2pac or random American rap-artist. Try harder...expression and camera angles, they can say a lot.
Usagi Tsukino Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2011.01.22 18:50:00 - [43] In response to why we look clean... If you wish to ignore the (I think) 3rd posts remark about the fact that your body isn't that old (assuming you're not a filthy carebear ), I'd respond - don't you clean up for class portrait day? ___ *Chaotic Dreams*
Haaranovor tenn Amarr 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.01.22 18:51:00 - [44] Originally by: Mijano Okay, people ... I have now changed my look and I am indeed very happy with the outcome of it. Do I now look more dangerous? More murderous? Perhaps I really am I nice guy just like my mother keeps saying? Perhaps I'm not unlovable, after all? I wouldn't say murderous... Intent would be a better term. "There's a very fine line between not listening, and not caring. I like to think I walk that line everyday of my life."
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2011.01.22 19:02:00 - [45] Ask the Amarr about our nature. Yes, our Avatars look a bit too "nice". Because beauty means average. Ugly means extreme. The in between is the place where we Minmatar should be. And that means a lot of work. To create someone that would also fit easily on a wanted poster for a terrorist photograph of the seventies. Some of those people were smart. They were really cunning. Some were even pretty. But all were sociopaths that would kill anybody just for talking to them. Or for their cause. A bit of this is in us Minmatar. You don't see it on the skin. You see it by the way they look. Like Alica is smiling. But her smile is just set up, that you can see. The next moment she's going to beat the photographer up with a monkeywrench until he's not moving anymore. Just because it's taking too long. But -yes- we need more scars. We need our tattoos. We need piercings. And weapons. At least I need a dagger of honor for being Sebiestor. It's part of our culture that we are armed. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
mkmin	Posted - 2011.01.22 19:22:00 - [46] +1 for being able to be naked and pink and floating in orange goo, with matrix wires everywhere.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2011.01.22 19:25:00 - [47] We're gods, what do you expect ust to look like? Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 20JAN11
Ares Rho	Posted - 2011.01.22 19:31:00 - [48] Originally by: Rusty Sprocket Originally by: Kuhn Arashi It doesn't feel as if I can. I honestly don't know how I'll change my Brutor without looking even more like Jay-Z, 2pac or random American rap-artist. Try harder...expression and camera angles, they can say a lot. Have to agree with this, you can get a pretty good effect on your portrait if you spend some time at it.
Thuranni Eldjotnar	Posted - 2011.01.22 20:01:00 - [49] Edited by: Thuranni on 22/01/2011 20:04:03 You have to remember that capsuleers are ultra-ultra rich. They've also probably been cloned dozens of times, so scars would hardly be permanent. A capsuleer would look less like the sociopathic violent mass murderer that he is, and more like a A-list celebrity or a executive. Also, it is easily possible to make someone that looks ****ing malevolent. Look at one of my other characters, for instance. If this guy doesn't look evil enough for you, I don't know what would.
Ehdward	Posted - 2011.01.22 20:04:00 - [50] Only a shameless Minmatar or hedonist Gallente would degrade both the noble title of starship captain and the honor of their crew by composing themself without dignity.

Green Gloy	Posted - 2011.01.22 20:08:00 - [51] My photo was snapped on my downtime, just chillin not killin. Now close the fridge door and bring me that beer
Big science	Posted - 2011.01.22 20:15:00 - [52] Im a super model.
Josefius Gallente JOKAS Industries Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2011.01.22 20:20:00 - [53] Edited by: Josefius on 22/01/2011 20:20:25 You thought the original Avatars looked any better?
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2011.01.22 20:20:00 - [54] Edited by: Zeba on 22/01/2011 20:21:09 Originally by: Syn Callibri Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/01/2011 21:32:40 Originally by: Mijano Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war. Correction...I do not a) look kind b)am not smiling c) look like a soldier d) look like my nose was broken at some point e) have a scar on my lip and left cheek. In short...you're wrong. Geeze.. and here I thought I had an original avatar. Bah. edit; hrmm actually its just the hair. Originally by: Blane Xero Zeba a fanboi, Haha, Christ, Pull the other one will you. Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
Iraherag	Posted - 2011.01.22 20:23:00 - [55] Edited by: Iraherag on 22/01/2011 20:24:49 Originally by: Mijano Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:31 Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:06 Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are. Do you think we should be covered in engine grease? I really see no reason why we shouldn't be clean. As for the model looks, there are numerous examples to the exact opposite: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1450771
Kaalen Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.22 21:03:00 - [56] I actually think we should be more clean, personally. Half of the men look like they've just come straight from the front lines of a planetary war. We are pod pilots: Immortal gods with the wealth of a small nation. To say we are upper class would be an enourmous understatement. All of our murderous violence is done with a thought; the blood, sweat and tears is taken care of by other, more expendable people. Also, the vast majority of us are clones. Why would we have scars?
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.22 21:17:00 - [57] Originally by: Kaalen I actually think we should be more clean, personally. Half of the men look like they've just come straight from the front lines of a planetary war. We are pod pilots: Immortal gods with the wealth of a small nation. To say we are upper class would be an enourmous understatement. All of our murderous violence is done with a thought; the blood, sweat and tears is taken care of by other, more expendable people. Also, the vast majority of us are clones. Why would we have scars? Very well said dear Caldari collegue! As a matter of fact I honestly find it more puzzling that some of us look like inflatable dolls than that we look young and pretty and well taken care of.
K'uata Sayus	Posted - 2011.01.22 21:20:00 - [58] Think of it as "Eve - The Next Generation" Updated sets, hipper characters, more marketable personalities, etc. I'd like some additional rubbering tools to get into ugly better, but I wasn't consulted.... EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM.
Teranul	Posted - 2011.01.22 21:34:00 - [59] Originally by: Agarwaen Macil Edit: If you really want to illustrate the creepy, sadistic, but detached side of a player character, consider this. There is a set of npc commodity items seeded into the market. This set of items are called 'passengers'. You can buy 5,250 exotic dancers, load them all into a badger mk. 2, take them out into space and jettison the lot of them, and then either sit there for two hours while they suffocate before the jet can explodes, or blow them up yourself. You just bought and murdered over 5000 people, for no reason, and will not suffer any repercussions for it; you probably barely even registered the blip on your wallet. People say EVE is a cold, harsh place, and it is, but from a lore stand point that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of how very dark it can be when you think about it. Really, a good looking, well put together person, who happens to be a horrific monster, is far more unsettling than a monster that looks like a monster. You expect the monster to act like a monster, he looks the part. But a well spoken, educated, affluent individual, who also happens to be one of the most cold hearted mass murderers ever to draw breath (and there are a few hundred thousand of them to boot)...that is what is really disturbing. Exactly right. Well, except about the part where all the capsuleers are cold-blooded mass murderers. Some of us are carebears, y'know! :p But it's true. Most of us are not nice people. Only miners and industrialists can claim to be such. The rest of us, the mission runners, ratters, plex runners, and especially PvPers are responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of people (each!) on a daily basis. That's billions of people dying by our hands, over and over and over again. And yet, we all look so... perfect. But beauty, as they say, is skin deep... One look at Teranul, who has been likened to having the face of a teenager (or younger!), and you would never once think her capable of such mass destruction. And yet she is. Thousands of people dying by her hands every few minutes. All in the pursuit of greater wealth...
Drykor Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2011.01.22 22:09:00 - [60] You really think murderers IRL look like the typical murderers you're imagining? Where did you get your ideas anyway? Movies? --- Drykor - AHARM

Brainless Bimbo Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.22 22:16:00 - [61] there is lots can be done to facial features while creating as well as the overlays, but what brings it together is the pose and lighting on the mugshot..... But look at the logic of it, we¦re clones not copies, DNA doesn¦t do metal plates and tattoos does it, scarring is probably down poor clone maintenance or choice of stop date on clone growth. Now in the future part of WiS probably means Tattoos, Jewellery, bling etc will be isk sinks while providing station content. However stuff like metal skull plates could be made mandatory modifications showing who crudely implanted pirate implants with intel being a bit more detailed on pod pilots adding to both station and PvP content. now forward with the cultural revolution..... ...... continues overleaf.
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2011.01.22 22:30:00 - [62] Originally by: Mijano Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are. It doesn't feel right. Perhaps this will change later on with scars and piercings, but there's only as much accessories can do. you know the goo eats any dandruff dead skin etc off your nekked body. couple it with there being no dirt in the goo and a good shower every time you exit the pod and you'd need to spend days outside your pod to get scruffy. who spends days outside their pod after all?
Potamus Jenkins The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory	Posted - 2011.01.22 22:32:00 - [63] im rugged
Syphon Lodian Gallente Fabled Enterprises	Posted - 2011.01.22 23:20:00 - [64] Your avatar sits in a capsule, in a pile of goo, connected to a neural network via the spine, while he receives nutrients intravenously. You're more likely to look like a gray alien, (Jovians, get it?) i.e. what human-esque species would look like after a million years of space travel. It would only take a generation or two before pod-pilots turned into emasculated gooey albinos, where the only "mutant masculine aspect" of them would be their sociopath behavior. You're lucky your avatar retains any sort of masculinity to be perfectly honest. Why do people think our avatars should resemble something from Mad Max? Sounds *****. Be happy with what you got you drama queens. Also, it's quite obvious, that at this point in time you're sitting here reading my signature.
Potamus Jenkins The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory	Posted - 2011.01.22 23:33:00 - [65] Originally by: Syphon Lodian Your avatar sits in a capsule, in a pile of goo, connected to a neural network via the spine, while he receives nutrients intravenously. You're more likely to look like a gray alien, (Jovians, get it?) i.e. what human-esque species would look like after a million years of space travel. It would only take a generation or two before pod-pilots turned into emasculated gooey albinos, where the only "mutant masculine aspect" of them would be their sociopath behavior. You're lucky your avatar retains any sort of masculinity to be perfectly honest. Why do people think our avatars should resemble something from Mad Max? Sounds *****. Be happy with what you got you drama queens. i got a sick kegel exercise routine though
Kehro Urgus Gallente Adverse Conditions	Posted - 2011.01.23 00:01:00 - [66] Shaved chimp/hired thug for a Russian drug lord was what one person decribed my avatar... so I succeeded!
Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts	Posted - 2011.01.23 00:23:00 - [67] I dunno, I think the new character creator is pretty good. -------------------------------------------- Quote: EVE-Online... Too rough for ya? Don't like it? GTFO...
Volucer S Noob Fight Club Reckless Chavs	Posted - 2011.01.23 00:58:00 - [68] Originally by: Mijano Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:31 Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:06 I was going to answer to a subject, not create a new one, yet I managed to mess up and here we are so I'll take this opportunity to whine a bit. Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are. It doesn't feel right. Perhaps this will change later on with scars and piercings, but there's only as much accessories can do. So naive... Capsuleer should look like dystrophic pale bald alien rather than "hardcore, murderous, violent" bad ass guy


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