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Shintai Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io	Posted - 2011.01.22 11:38:00 - [31] Btw there will come more stuff later, shirts, tattoos etc. With next expansions. But again, patience is...a virtue. But they still still be bloodline related. So a gallente wont look like an amarr. -------------------------------------- Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.01.22 11:41:00 - [32] Originally by: Ming Call How on earth did Eve win a community award with repeated replies like these? If only this thread was an exception. I know, right? I didn't originally intend this thread to be a troll thread, but it seems I hit 10/10 as people are now spending far more time and emotional investment over replying to it than I did over writing it. Originally by: Ming Call OP, I hear your frustration, but in my own humble opinion, would seem a minor detail to be quitting over. There's some context behind it. Originally by: Ming Call Is this the last straw of a much bigger and longer term collection of issues? Yes. Originally by: Ming Call Perhaps its time to take a break Way ahead of you. Originally by: Ming Call Don't biomass anything. Oh no way, man! Since I'm paid up until March anyway I'll probably still log in to train skills, might finish training all my battleship skills to V or something. Who knows, maybe CCP will actually make the changes I want and I'll uncancel my subscription. Originally by: Ming Call If it is just the character creator content, remember its in its infancy, and more content will follow later. Yeah, I've heard the unpleasant word "microtransaction" thrown around when discussing that. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.22 11:54:00 - [33] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Maybe OP didn't make himself clear enough but I understand that he wants to swap bloodlines because he doesn't like the looks his old bloodline now offers (he's a player from 2005). Seems quite clear to me, though. I understand that most people are ok with the new looks but a lot aren't. There's more theads about this; it has been mentioned a lot of times in the Sisi feedback threads and there's a proposal in the assembly hall with over 100 support votes already. As for you questing my compassion and empathy which I see you have now edited out. I was one of the ones putting a case across for allowing people to choose from their bloodline again. If I could have found the thread that those posts were in they would have answered that compassion/empathy comment of yours better. But it's like looking for a needle in a haystack with the amount of threads that have been generated lately.
Sir Krassy	Posted - 2011.01.22 11:55:00 - [34] Yeah look, im not too happy with this stuck up approach EVE online has. Its getting very wearing. I'm contemplating my cancellation as-well.
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.22 11:56:00 - [35] Originally by: Forum Guy I was one of the ones putting a case across for allowing people to choose from their bloodline again. If I could have found the thread that those posts were in they would have answered that compassion/empathy comment of yours better. But it's like looking for a needle in a haystack with the amount of threads that have been generated lately. Yes I removed that because I recognized your name! I just didn't understand your comment in the light of your previous posts.
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:00:00 - [36] Edited by: Forum Guy on 22/01/2011 12:00:16 Originally by: Jennifer Starling Originally by: Forum Guy I was one of the ones putting a case across for allowing people to choose from their bloodline again. If I could have found the thread that those posts were in they would have answered that compassion/empathy comment of yours better. But it's like looking for a needle in a haystack with the amount of threads that have been generated lately. Yes I removed that because I recognized your name! I just didn't understand your comment in the light of your previous posts. Well that's my fault, I should have explained where I was coming from better. Always the danger when you wake up and are not fully switched on, just need more coffee.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:04:00 - [37] No, the thing is, I don't want to change my bloodline. I want to have access to all the clothing options and hairstyle options on my current bloodline - and more importantly, I want everyone to have that same freedom of choice on every bloodline. There is no logical reason why a member of a bloodline could not style his hair in certain ways or not buy certain clothes. That just doesn't make sense. Race-locking certain facial shape and skin tone variables makes sense, but restricting art assets in this way is illogical and frankly counterproductive. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:07:00 - [38] Pfft! Typical Gallente, can't have it all so they don't want any. Next he'll declare war to take what others have in the name of "freedom". True rage-quits biomass, DO IT!!!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:10:00 - [39] Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium Pfft! Typical Gallente, can't have it all so they don't want any. Next he'll declare war to take what others have in the name of "freedom". IGS is that way brosef ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
W1rlW1nd WirlWind	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:13:00 - [40] Edited by: W1rlW1nd on 22/01/2011 12:14:39 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris No, the thing is, I don't want to change my bloodline. I want to have access to all the clothing options and hairstyle options on my current bloodline - and more importantly, I want everyone to have that same freedom of choice on every bloodline. ... . as stated, the op has nothing to do with bloodlines- he is ragequitting because wants everyone to be able to wear the same clothes! pay attention people! and furthermore he is SO OUTRAGED that he is ragequitting 2 months in advance bacause he wants to keep playing until his sub is up in march
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:18:00 - [41] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris No, the thing is, I don't want to change my bloodline. I want to have access to all the clothing options and hairstyle options on my current bloodline - and more importantly, I want everyone to have that same freedom of choice on every bloodline. There is no logical reason why a member of a bloodline could not style his hair in certain ways or not buy certain clothes. That just doesn't make sense. Race-locking certain facial shape and skin tone variables makes sense, but restricting art assets in this way is illogical and frankly counterproductive. The reason they restrict what bloodlines/races can do (n/a to this game) and look like is to keep a seperate identity for each, so not everyone looks the same. They could keep adding clothes, hairstyle etc. but there would never be enough to keep people looking different without imposing restrictions. Same clothes different colours, but they really just look the same.
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:18:00 - [42] Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 22/01/2011 12:22:42 Originally by: W1rlW1nd as stated, the op has nothing to do with bloodlines- he is ragequitting because wants everyone to be able to wear the same clothes! pay attention people! and furthermore he is SO OUTRAGED that he is ragequitting 2 months in advance bacause he wants to keep playing until his sub is up in march People should do what they think is right. And no, it's not just about clothes if you read correctly, it's about (the lack of) customization options that other bloodlines do have. Originally by: Forum Guy The reason they restrict what bloodlines/races can do (n/a to this game) and look like is to keep a seperate identity for each, so not everyone looks the same. They could keep adding clothes, hairstyle etc. but there would never be enough to keep people looking different without imposing restrictions. Same clothes different colours, but they really just look the same. I think when we'll be able to walk in stations we'll all look a lot more the same than the forum pictures seem to suggest. No more differences in posture, angles, light effects, backgrounds, we're also all the same length. I guess we'll see 95% of the females all have the same 3 or 4 hairstyles, for example (as most hairstyles looks so silly they're quite redundant).
Silvermoon Armanis Gallente ZiiP Empire	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:22:00 - [43] Edited by: Silvermoon Armanis on 22/01/2011 12:25:32 Gahaha, Really andreus?! You mad? I guess you didnt read the Devbolg that they will be bringing in more features in the future and that we will be able to re do our characters over and over freely. Yknow so you can wear a boobtube, onepiece or whatever you want. just gotta wait.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:23:00 - [44] Originally by: Forum Guy The reason they restrict what bloodlines/races can do (n/a to this game) and look like is to keep a seperate identity for each, so not everyone looks the same. This argument doesn't really hold water. Have you looked at portraits lately? Everyone already looks the same, and the less options each bloodline has, the more people will look the same. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:27:00 - [45] Originally by: Ming Call Edited by: Ming Call on 22/01/2011 11:30:36 How on earth did Eve win a community award with repeated replies like these? If only this thread was an exception. Because op is just trolling? Who in their right mind would quit EVE over something so trivial? However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:31:00 - [46] Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Originally by: Ming Call How on earth did Eve win a community award with repeated replies like these? If only this thread was an exception. Because op is just trolling? Who in their right mind would quit EVE over something so trivial? Maybe what's trivial for you may not be trivial to other people? Or does that sound very strange?
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:31:00 - [47] Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 22/01/2011 12:32:17 Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Because op is just trolling? Who in their right mind would quit EVE over something so trivial? We're playing an MMORPG. Everything is trivial. Also, I ask again: who in their right mind would continue paying money to play a game whose features they weren't satisfied with? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:32:00 - [48] Edited by: Forum Guy on 22/01/2011 12:33:07 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Forum Guy The reason they restrict what bloodlines/races can do (n/a to this game) and look like is to keep a seperate identity for each, so not everyone looks the same. This argument doesn't really hold water. Have you looked at portraits lately? Everyone already looks the same, and the less options each bloodline has, the more people will look the same. I have and there's plenty of very good and different looking portraits. Although can't honestly say I like yours much at the moment. Not all the items have made it into the game yet, I suspect it was a time issue. So it would be safe to assume in the future that we will be able to customise bloodlines/races further. If the choice is make people have more choices now and lose race/bloodline identity. Or wait so that they have more time to add more character customisation and keep bloodline/race identity seperate. Then personally I'd rather wait.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:34:00 - [49] Originally by: Forum Guy If the choice is make people have more choices now and lose race/bloodline identity. We lost the majority of "race/bloodline identity" the moment our characters stopped looking like cartoonish charicatures and started looking like human beings. What is so important about "race/bloodline identity" anyway? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
AterraX Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:35:00 - [50] OP should play a game more suited for his taste: Linky ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:43:00 - [51] I'm so mad too! Its like my avatar's picture has a meaningful effect on my in-game performance and other races get the adva.. Oh wait. Nobody will miss you! ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:49:00 - [52] Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 22/01/2011 12:49:57 I was disappointed by the lack of accessories, tattoos, clothing and hair colour. Civire in particular apparently have NO fashion sense, but it's probably just as bad all over It seems they've forcibly added restrictions to each bloodline to make it so there's still some noticeable variety between them as well as ensuring that people can't make broken faces, but we've lost a lot of customisation in the process... Still, as bad as it is, I don't think it's anything to (permanently) quit the game over; you'll get over it eventually . (and hopefully CCP will fix this mess)
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:55:00 - [53] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Forum Guy If the choice is make people have more choices now and lose race/bloodline identity. We lost the majority of "race/bloodline identity" the moment our characters stopped looking like cartoonish charicatures and started looking like human beings. What is so important about "race/bloodline identity" anyway? Actually going from cartoonish to more real looking is not losing identity, if anything it's actually giving them more identity. If everyone made them look the same then yes there would be no individual identity as far as looks go, but that holds true to the old system too. Sounds to me you might have some underlying racial issues. You have to be comfortable with the characters you play. We are not going to go back to the old system and they won't just change it because you want them to. So you really only have two choices: 1) accept it for what it is at the moment and see when new items/styles are added. 2) Do something else. Assuming you are not just trolling of course.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.01.22 13:35:00 - [54] Originally by: Forum Guy Actually going from cartoonish to more real looking is not losing identity, if anything it's actually giving them more identity. As individuals. The massive, clearly-visible and frankly somewhat ridiculous distinctions between races and bloodlines have been done away with, and everyone now looks more similar than before, which is not neccesarily a bad thing. But giving us the correct tools to allow us to individually customise our character is important, and CCP haven't. Originally by: Forum Guy Sounds to me you might have some underlying racial issues. Nice strawman, is your house fire-safe? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.01.22 13:42:00 - [55] Edited by: Anne Arqui on 22/01/2011 13:43:57 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris What is so important about "race/bloodline identity" anyway? They don't mean anything in the game (except for 1 starter skill and a corp management skill). EVE's lore and especially your decendance hasn't got any consequences in the game whatsoever. I'll repeat myself; "I didn't pick the old look for the bloodline, that bloodline just happened to have that look. Now I'm stuck with the bloodline but the possibility to have that certain look is gone." And given to another bloodline. Bloodlines have limited options - and in my case it doesn't have the options I want, while other bloodlines have far more options to re-make my character in the spirit of how she used to look. And that annoys me to no end.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.01.22 13:45:00 - [56] Originally by: Anne Arqui They don't mean anything in the game. EVE's lore and especially your decendance hasn't got any consequences in the game whatsoever. I'll repeat myself; "I didn't pick the old look for the bloodline, that bloodline just happened to have that look. Now I'm stuck with the bloodline but the possibility to have that certain look is gone." Bloodlines have limited options - and in my case it doesn't have the options I want, while other bloodlines have far more options to re-make my character in the spirit of how she used to look. And that annoys me to no end. I'll agree with pretty much all of this, but since I'm a roleplayer, the lore behind my bloodline actually has some meaning to me, so even in the unlikely event that CCP even allowed changing it, I wouldn't want to. I'd like the customisation options on my current bloodline expanded, and the same for everyone else's. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Forum Guy	Posted - 2011.01.22 14:05:00 - [57] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Nice strawman, is your house fire-safe? I might be nice in general (more of a choice really) but I'm no pushover.
Mina Hiragi Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2011.01.22 14:05:00 - [58] Am I wearing pants? Am I not wearing pants? Nobody knows! Because clothing is pointless until ambulation arrives. Also, I shall fight to the spacedeath to prevent hoods from ever falling into the hands of cheese-stinking Gallente. Hoods are the sole right and responsibility of true-blooded Amarrians. GOD WILLS IT.
Tramadol Hydrochloride	Posted - 2011.01.22 14:07:00 - [59] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris BAW Just go away.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.01.22 14:09:00 - [60] o/ good luck with whatever you are up to next. /c Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'


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