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Captain Megadeath
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Posted - 2011.01.28 15:27:00 -
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 Originally by: Mr Robato
You are already forced to wear pants, believe me i tried.
Strange, the character already comes with snazzy black pants fitted. I suppose you are either trying to for-go the trousers or you want a nude character for some sick reason. 
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
my name actually is short for catherine
Yeah, Katie Door perhaps...... lol
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Slack Scientist
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Posted - 2011.01.28 15:46:00 -
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I have no Shirt...
For all the good that does me 
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.01.28 15:56:00 -
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I thought the boob shot avatars were silly and tacky but not worth the hassle of actually addressing. Let people do what they want. But!
I seem to recall the Incarna videos showing bar strippers, and a dev saying that bar owners could buy dancers as decorations for their station bars. So... what are these dancers going to be wearing? Are they going to be shirted too? I suspect not, since that kind of defeats the purpose of such a bar decoration.
But the question is: if the dancers/strippers are scantily clad, why is there a different standard for player avatars?
Is it that CCP doesn't want players running around stations in bras and panties like it's Animal House? I can understand that reasoning - it breaks any sense of suspended disbelief in the environment. But... aren't the super ugly face avatars gonna do that too?
I'm just honestly curious what CCP's rationale is here.
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Mr Robato
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Posted - 2011.01.28 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Robato on 28/01/2011 16:16:15
Edited by: Mr Robato on 28/01/2011 16:13:34
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Strange, the character already comes with snazzy black pants fitted. I suppose you are either trying to for-go the trousers or you want a nude character for some sick reason.
No it doesn't. Or at least maybe it didn't when I created mine the first day of the patch. Either way, i distinctly remember it telling me i "..can not continue without choosing clothing for the following area:
BOTTOM "
as for the nude sick reason.., he has on boxer briefs or something. It's not nude...And yes, I am THAT guy.
Edit: I see... "trousers" yea....that.
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Doctor Carbonatite
True Slave News Network
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Posted - 2011.01.28 16:15:00 -
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Well, I have a female character with jacket/no shirt, and all this did was deny me the ability to redo the portrait, because no way in hell am I putting on one of those ridiculous shirts.
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Thinly Veiled
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Posted - 2011.01.28 16:24:00 -
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what happened to the sandbox? where you can do whatever you want? if people want to have shirtless portraits then why not let them? they have already seen the mostly naked in the character creator, why cut down options?
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Mr Hankie
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:00:00 -
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The description of exotic dancers, created by ccp:
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Exotic dancing is considered an art form, even though not everyone might agree. Exposing the flesh in public places may be perfectly acceptable within the Federation, but in the Amarr Empire it's considered a grave sin and a sign of serious deviancy.
Ironic!
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Lekla en Chasteaux
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lekla en Chasteaux on 28/01/2011 17:03:36
some of the outerwear (2 of them, in fact) looks like a full dress, and not just a jacket. I don't see why we can't wear those alone without a top or bottom.
I don't know what's going on with CCP. With the old character creator, maybe you didn't have full body shots and such, but you certainly could come close to looking practically naked with some races (like the clear plastic outfit for the minmatar vheri..whatevers).
Oh well...
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Shereza
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: W1rlW1nd
btw every character in eve is INDOORS ALL THE TIME (space stations <-> space ship) it doesn't even make sense for them to own a jacket let alone wear one.
You apparently don't know a lot about space. Space is cold. If you aren't in line of sight of a radiant object, typically a nearby star, you're going to be radiating heat into space and not getting any back. Secondly, stations built by the lowest bidder will never have quality insulation. This means that many stations out there are going to be cold in the outer portions, and in low rent districts as well. Thirdly, people come from all over. I've seen folks wearing coats in 80 degree weather and shorts in 30 degree weather. While I might applaud Alaskan women for making such a fashion statement in the middle of a Missouri winter I personally find it a tad insane.
Long story short, it makes sense for players to be able to wear jackets. What doesn't make sense is that the first couple selections of outerwear completely cover up any "top" piece you might be wearingj. This renders choosing a top pointless, yet you still must choose one even though nobody will ever be able to see it under said outer piece. 
Originally by: Vak'ran
As CCP has this nice ESRB "Teen | Violence" logo thing going on, why not add, next to violence, "possible thumbnail-size suggestion of the existence of mammaries". That wouldn't throw the ESRB all into a fit, would it? They know that most teenagers are aware of this fact... right?
Media rating centers/services can be really picky about some things. I've seen several video games that were given an M rating despite the content listings of several T(een) games containing more M(ature) content. Likewise I've also seen movies with ratings that include "partial nudity" that referred to topless men boxing, not the naked female breasts it means in every other instance of "partial nudity" I've seen.
Ratings and the agencies that make them are kinda silly. 
Originally by: Funesta
I just want to shoot at space ships, in the space-ship-shooting online game. Is that really too much to ask?
Is it too much to ask that you and people like you refrain from roaming around in stations where people whose actions you object to are doing the same thing? I'm not particularly keen on seeing half the population in a station, or more, running around looking like strippers, *****s, or harem girls/guards, but I'm less keen on restricting free choice.
I'll admit to having a couple top-less characters, in point of fact I'm posting with one now, but there's a difference between "dressing" your character that way for a specific effect (poor little emo/goth girl or trailer trash) and doing it just so you can see cyber-boobies. I'd really prefer for the latter idiots not to ruin it for the former.
Originally by: Funesta
Uh huh. That might work on your parents, but it won't work on me. "It's artistic, Mom! It's not ****, really!"
Then you're just being silly. I hate to break it to you but some people really do use scanty clothing to achieve specific looks or results that don't explicitly, or even implicitly, deal with sex.
Originally by: Funesta
Similarly, if an MMO pastes naked women everywhere, all the guys decide it's sexy party time instead of shooting-people time. Thus, if there end up being in-game strip clubs everywhere, and in-game naked chicks everywhere, this just becomes an inferior copy of Second Life and I take my money elsewhere - somewhere that I can SHOOT things.
No offense, but EVE isn't World of Warcraft. Despite the number of absolute morons in the game the general population base tends to be quite a bit more adult/mature than the people in the scenarios you're afraid of. Maybe you should actually wait and see how it goes before deciding it's the work of the devil and needs to be crucified on the altar of moral purity.
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Jisu Viscera
Minmatar
Setenta Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jisu Viscera on 28/01/2011 17:23:15
Originally by: Shereza
No offense, but EVE isn't World of Warcraft. Despite the number of absolute morons in the game the general population base tends to be quite a bit more adult/mature than the people in the scenarios you're afraid of. Maybe you should actually wait and see how it goes before deciding it's the work of the devil and needs to be crucified on the altar of moral purity.
He was referring to Second Life, and he does have a point. What was a great idea and genuinely had the possibility of turning out something great, Second Life pretty much degenerated into a *pron game. Not to say that the same thing would happen to EVE (moderation is key), but there is that. The likelyhood of that happening is pretty low though, all things considered - the gameplay and what you could do is much, much different.
*Really? That is a censored word? lol.
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Lekla en Chasteaux
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: Lekla en Chasteaux on 28/01/2011 17:23:51
I'm sure they'll add more options, eventually. But honestly, I've played other MMO's with a teen rating with women in MUCH skimpier clothing (most asian MMO's practically force female characters to wear almost nothing), I just don't see what CCP is trying to get across.
I don't care much for the above mentioned style of dressing characters, but as they have it now, every female character seems like they're trying to dress as tom-boyish as possible, and while this is fine, I don't think they should be restricted to that.
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Teranul
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:44:00 -
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I am posting in this thread to say only two things.
Fewer options are not more or better.
CCP, I am disappoint.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:51:00 -
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So much for legendary european "open mindedness". These avatars...even the more risque ones...are far more tame than others I've seen in other MMOs.
[21EL] Commander Tac-Ops / [21EL] I.S.C. |
Robdon
Darkwave Technologies
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:52:00 -
[134]
CCP are hilarious
A few days of chars being created without tops, and they fix it quickly... and a game that has the same bugs around for years and years and they cant/wont fix... its a bit sad...
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LuCinDA ArAn
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:53:00 -
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What a joke, I just wanted to change the angle of my picture but CCP will not let me because i have no top on? wtf i got a damn jacket i don't want one of them ugly t-shirt you try to force me to wear.
CCP is trying to hard to make this spaceship sims, Rollback on this terrible incarna update and get the PVP working again. If we wanted to play sims we wouldn't have sign up for eve in the first place.
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Doppleganger
Minmatar
Band of Builders Inc.
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2011.01.28 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: LuCinDA ArAn
What a joke, I just wanted to change the angle of my picture but CCP will not let me because i have no top on? wtf i got a damn jacket i don't want one of them ugly t-shirt you try to force me to wear.
CCP is trying to hard to make this spaceship sims, Rollback on this terrible incarna update and get the PVP working again. If we wanted to play sims we wouldn't have sign up for eve in the first place.
I wanted to do the same thing... slightly reposition my char. I made no changes to him and when the server re rendered him I lost my outer ware. Here they are getting picky over having shirts and yet I lost my vest in the rendering heh.
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Khun SP
Paramite Factories
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Posted - 2011.01.28 18:04:00 -
[137]
LOL @ how many toons with big b00bies are poasting on this thread
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Mortisha Drake
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Posted - 2011.01.28 18:32:00 -
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Am so glad I got in under the wire of this lame ass policy that CCP has put in for no good reason.
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Julia Kristeva
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.28 18:33:00 -
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I really wonder who makes these decisions and who he (or she) is hoping to please with this change. I like to remind CCP that the people who're actually paying for this game aren't the sort who get outraged over a nipple at a sporting event. I wasn't planning on going without a top on any of my characters but it annoys me my options are limited, especially as the clothing options were limited to begin with.
Just to put this into perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ReG411OLnI
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Irani Firecam
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.01.28 18:33:00 -
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Looks like everyone just wants to play "Boobies Online".
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Annacron Adaptive
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Posted - 2011.01.28 18:38:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Jada Maroo
I seem to recall the Incarna videos showing bar strippers, and a dev saying that bar owners could buy dancers as decorations for their station bars. So... what are these dancers going to be wearing? Are they going to be shirted too? I suspect not, since that kind of defeats the purpose of such a bar decoration.
That's easy: The demo those videos were from didn't have anything to do with the real incarna. The real incarna will be so different, so bad, that people wouldn't recognize it if it wasn't called incarna. I'm calling this right now.
Originally by: Jada Maroo
But the question is: if the dancers/strippers are scantily clad, why is there a different standard for player avatars?
Because logic has no place in reality.
Originally by:
Amarr is so overpowered, if an amarr shuttle warps in, everyone on grid starts taking residual damage.
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Sfynx
Caldari
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.01.28 19:04:00 -
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This shirtless thing makes females look... you know... female. Now you always have to dress them like it is always cold outside. For example the graphic artwork for Minmatar, I clearly remember a skinny girl wearing a bra and basically nothing else, but now it should have some sort of space suit suitable for polar expeditions before letting you advance to the next screen
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Summary: They are women, so they should be able to have some cleavage. Or is that reserved for the hot and steamy jacuzzi room action that will be introduced in Incarna? If so, I can wait.
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ctcp
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.28 19:43:00 -
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I'd gladly wear a shirt for a real name that didn't look like some internal code.
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Unteelai Ceygo
Minmataur Pilot
(doesn't the ctcp name look sort of like a ccp designation? eve-mail me if you think so) |
Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.01.28 19:58:00 -
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They should allow the big red bra and white shirt!
seriously CCP, it takes 3 minutes to implement a change weapon stats, as per your last CSM minutes, and it takes you years to rebalance weapons. 3 days into the expansion, you see that GIRL(S) {Guys In Real Life} are running around in bras and BAZINGA ... you fix it?
it is really sad that you have such strange priorities. A cm x cm pic of cartoon must be stopped!
Best regards,
Apollo Gabriel
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I Love Boobies
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Posted - 2011.01.28 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Irani Firecam
Looks like everyone just wants to play "Boobies Online".
I would definitely pay to play Boobies Online.
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Ludacrys
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Posted - 2011.01.28 20:48:00 -
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in b4 "sexual roleplaying" becomes a banable offense
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Rannz
Minmatar
Scordite Excavating Xenaphobe
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Posted - 2011.01.28 21:27:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Sophia Amelia Stone
Uh huh. That might work on your parents, but it won't work on me. ...
Sorry I'm not buying your reasoning. It fails on many levels.
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The majority of people who want naked avatars want to stare at fake boobs, or simulate fake sex in stations. They can do that in literally millions of other places. I don't want to deal with it here.
Assumption. You have no empirical evidence that can prove your conclusion. Besides, I saw no one in this thread that said they wanted naked avatars. Even if they did, so what you never see them. Even when and if Incarna makes it out, there is nothing that I have seen that says you must dock, go walk around a space station and seek out a "strip club". You can still blow up other space ships, even if the pilots are naked. 
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And yes, as a female who's played numerous MMOs, it does effect me. As soon as guys decide an MMO is an appropriate place to try to pick up chicks, they start bothering people like me who just want to smash space ships without getting hit on all the time.
Like you, I think it's silly that some folks think that a MMO is a good place to pick up others, but it happens in every MMO. Besides, if all you want to do is smash ships, then make a male avatar (since they are not that important to you anyway) and I am willing to bet no one will "hit" on you...unless you want the freedom to make an avatar the way YOU want it? That's interesting.
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Similarly, if an MMO pastes naked women everywhere, all the guys decide it's sexy party time instead of shooting-people time. Thus, if there end up being in-game strip clubs everywhere, and in-game naked chicks everywhere, this just becomes an inferior copy of Second Life and I take my money elsewhere - somewhere that I can SHOOT things. It becomes a game of pretend-sex with pretend-shooting on the side, just like strip clubs are places to look for pretend-sex with drinking on the side. Waste of time to pretend otherwise, for all of us.
IF that becomes the case then as you said, you can take your money elsewhere and if enough folks feel the way you do, it would hurt CCP enough to make a change. I don't see that happening though, as I have played Age of Conan which actually allows a player to play a female avatar and have their **** (no bra) hanging out and run around all they want. Is it rampant? Nope. Do you see a few isolated incidents? Yep. Has the game shut down yet? Nope. Guess what? Players can still log into the game, run raids, PvP, ride horses, gather resources, etc and the occasional bare breasted toon does not prevent it.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2011.01.29 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jisu Viscera
He was referring to Second Life, and he does have a point. What was a great idea and genuinely had the possibility of turning out something great, Second Life pretty much degenerated into a *pron game. Not to say that the same thing would happen to EVE (moderation is key), but there is that. The likelyhood of that happening is pretty low though, all things considered - the gameplay and what you could do is much, much different.
I'm actually aware of that. My point was that in World of Warcraft, a game generally accalimed as having one of the lowest common denominators for player intellect, such activities are relatively uncommon. I've never played Second Life, nor have I ever had any serious inclination to, so commenting on it would have been rather stupid for me.
Originally by: Khun SP
LOL @ how many toons with big b00bies are poasting on this thread
Eh, well, what can I say. This is my default character for posting on my default account for posting with. I've actually no real desire to post with other characters, even the one that vaguely looks like this one's over-weight, middle-aged, ****ed off mother. Besides, the larger assets suited the image I was going for, I don't want all of my characters to be modestly endowed or smaller. 
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Fact of the matter is that CCP really does need to include more options for clothing, including underwear, hairstyles, coloration, and body modification. Likewise we really do need more variation in what is usable in terms of combinations. Right now being forced to wear a shirt with some articles of Outer clothing is completely pointless after all.
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Feder Volldag
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Posted - 2011.01.29 00:34:00 -
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This seems to be aimed at not ticking off mom & dad who have to pull out the credit card. Or maybe some religious fanatics issued a bomb threat.
I can live with not seeing any bras, and if someone would want a full frontal naked avatar that would be cool too, as long as I can wear what I choose. I think it's silly to enforce dresscode like this. As has been said before, watch 60's Star Trek on TV, open your web browser or go to your local swimming pool and you will see more skin.
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Jazmyn Stone
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Posted - 2011.01.29 00:36:00 -
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Log on to EVE, choose between your 3 characters, when asked if you want to enter character creator, select "no", and check "do not ask me again".
You will be able to keep your portrait without the shirt under the vest.
If you enter into character creator, yes then you will be required to put a shirt on when you enter portrait area.
So, if you like what you see, you can keep it.
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