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Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.03 09:59:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Furb Killer
Oh and btw net neutrality isnt all that good. Sure there are good parts about it, but at the same time I think it is not only reasonable, but actually a great idea to give traffic with high latency demands, for example gaming, but also remote desktop, voip, etc priority over traffic with low latency demands, like usenet, torrent, etc. The speed of those usenet downloads then should not be significantly affected, while you can gain much better latency for gaming when the network is under high load.
The problem with setting priorities on traffic/packet types is that the ISPs want to bill you for that right. Which is really no different than the 'bandwith cap' discussion here (stealth nerf of Internet, either way). Also, you start to get into that 'grey' area where businesses can overtake/override the public on whatever caps are put in place - especially if ISPs begin to market ultra-high-priority Internet traffic as a cheap alternative to leased lines.
Don't get me wrong, I want to see more options - both on the low-end and high-end. But most ISPs do that in the US by bundling the Internet with TV and Phone, which is what irks me most. There are times (like my previous apartment) where not having that bundle is mandatory, and you get hurt in the wallet.
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Pehk Mak'mel'ahma
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
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Posted - 2011.02.03 10:11:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Razputon
As a Canadian player I am staring down the possibility of metered internet. As such I am going to have to pay for everything over 15-25GB per month of bandwidth. As such I am going to have to watch my bandwidth usage or face a massive internet bill. So, does anyone know how much bandwidth Eve uses, say on a per hour basis?
A lot of us in Canada are trying to stop this from coming but a lot of ISP's are plunging ahead.
Bell's Sympatico has plans for people facing the bandwidth cap. THere is a 40 GB plan that fits EVE perfectly and allows for music and video downloads as well.
Pehk
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Mathious Audtore
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Posted - 2011.02.03 10:18:00 -
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Its a sad day when ISP start to limit the plans the cost is allmost noting to them..... I used to work for a dialup ISP years ago once we payed for the hardware it was all profit but at any rate you can run a prgram like Bandwidth Monitor... http://www.bwmonitor.com/ let that run on a normal EVE day for you and see what you get I hope enough people have another ISP they can change to get away from the cap....
Best of luck!
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Hyveres
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.03 10:18:00 -
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Stuff like this makes me happy to live in a scandinavian country where download caps are unheard of and fiperoptic cable owned by different companies makes competition a reality :)
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Jandice Ymladris
Caldari
DRAMA Inc
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.02.03 12:01:00 -
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Coming from a country that has bandwith limit imposed by the goverment (Belgium) I can verify that Eve will run easy with your current limit. I currently use a 15 Gb plan, and can still play all online games i want + get patches without exceeding the limit. Things you have to watch out for is streaming, that consumes tons of bandwith (Youtube movies & the like). Reason for the downloadlimit here was to fight piracy, wich seems to work somewhat.
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Falcun
Gallente
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.02.03 12:36:00 -
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dont worry, they reversed it :D
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Zombatar
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Posted - 2011.02.03 13:13:00 -
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I fail to understand how in developed countries, Canada/UK/Belgium/USA things like limited bandwidth plans still exist. This it totally unheard of in some countries less developed. 15gb/month is so low you have no idea until you switch to unlimited bandwidth. I found it hilarious when I moved to UK and saw their commercials with OMFG 40gb/month, this was their best offer. UK is 5 years behind in Internet plans compared to some countries.
I searched for an unlimited plan and thank god I found one, but at some crappy speed like 1mb/s. Lawl 1mb/s lawl, and UK is developed? Something is wrong here, or something is missing that I do not know about. Back in my country 10mb/s - unlimited is under 10 pounds. Here I pay double for 10 times less the speed.
Anyone got any ideas why this is so?
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Judge LearnedHand
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Posted - 2011.02.03 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Razputon
As a Canadian player I am staring down the possibility of metered internet. As such I am going to have to pay for everything over 15-25GB per month of bandwidth. As such I am going to have to watch my bandwidth usage or face a massive internet bill. So, does anyone know how much bandwidth Eve uses, say on a per hour basis?
A lot of us in Canada are trying to stop this from coming but a lot of ISP's are plunging ahead.
Looks like your government has made the right decision! Congrats.
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/02/03/0427210/Usage-Based-Billing-In-Canada-To-Be-Rescinded
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Shandir
Minmatar
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.02.03 13:32:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Jandice Ymladris
Coming from a country that has bandwith limit imposed by the goverment (Belgium) I can verify that Eve will run easy with your current limit. I currently use a 15 Gb plan, and can still play all online games i want + get patches without exceeding the limit. Things you have to watch out for is streaming, that consumes tons of bandwith (Youtube movies & the like). Reason for the downloadlimit here was to fight piracy, wich seems to work somewhat.
Yes, to fight piracy. Nothing at all to do with the cost of not having 3rd world internet provision.
Plus, if you're playing EVE, then piracy is happening. Y'know, actual piracy, with real internet spaceships.
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ivar R'dhak
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Posted - 2011.02.03 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: ivar R''dhak on 03/02/2011 13:43:59
Originally by: Shandir
Originally by: Jandice Ymladris
Coming from a country that has bandwith limit imposed by the goverment (Belgium)
Yes, to fight piracy. Nothing at all to do with the cost of not having 3rd world internet provision.
Plus, if you're playing EVE, then piracy is happening. Y'know, actual piracy, with real internet spaceships.
Heh, wanted to rabblerabble your post for government corruption/corp greed propaganda but noticed it¦s hopefully sarcasm.
The internetz needs a sarcasm font!
NOW I need to punch a puppy or something to get rid of the outrage. 
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XY Zed
Caldari
Taarakian Bellator Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.03 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: XY Zed on 03/02/2011 14:48:04
The Canadian government has overturned the decision to cap the Internet.
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Punker Adagear
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Posted - 2011.02.03 15:16:00 -
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Im from the uk and have a mobile broadband connection ( you know those rubbish donble type things) and it has a 15gig allowance on it per month
Now i play most days atm, and am logged into game most the time even if AFK, but i still have plently og allowance left at the end of the month maybe 4gig depending on how much stuff i watch on internet.
The only thing you may have problems with is if you need to reinstall up or update ( this last expansion seriously killed my allowance)
Other then what you do in game you should have enough bandwith left
Sorry i only scanned the post so youve prolly had same amount of feedback
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Korvan Hraldir Davanev
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Posted - 2011.02.03 15:35:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Lexa Hellfury
Originally by: Korvan Hraldir Davanev
I play eve using mobile broadband. Last month I played 2-3 hours a night on average and just about stayed under 1gb for the month
That would be nice, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Been playing for 1 hour 9 mins. Total usage = 10.9mb including some forum browsing. while travelling
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Korvan Hraldir Davanev
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Posted - 2011.02.03 15:37:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Punker Adagear
The only thing you may have problems with is if you need to reinstall up or update ( this last expansion seriously killed my allowance)
Other then what you do in game you should have enough bandwith left
Agreed - updates are a pain - last month I had to get an extra 2gb.
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Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle
Nostradamus Effect
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Posted - 2011.02.03 16:41:00 -
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They haven't reversed the decision yet, I should add. Things change all the time.
Anyways, telecommunications companies LOVE Canada. The CRTC only allows 3 major companies, and those companies have former execs on the CRTC board. I'm tired of getting bent over for my internet/phone/cable. I switched from Telus to Virgin, only to find out that Virgin has to pay dues to Telus for using their network, so the rates are pretty much the same. I don't even use my cell anymore, and I pay $24 per month. No voicemail, no call display, no evenings starting at 6 (Yes that's right, you have to pay extra to have your evenings start at 6 now. Does that even make any sense?? My goddamned evening starts when I get off work!), and only 150 anytime minutes, and 50 texts per month. It's a paperwieght as far as I'm concerned.
Anyways, Tony Clement is winning votes for the Conservative gov't by standing against this. I hope that's not the only reason he's doing this.
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Sral TBear
Macaroni family
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Posted - 2011.02.03 16:49:00 -
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wowser. Im think i should be happy..
i pay 5 euro a month with a unlimtet(use) 50/50mbit fiber
Some thing`s are not that bad in socialist Denmark
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KWyz
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:10:00 -
[77]
Edited by: KWyz on 03/02/2011 17:12:11
Wow...I mean...just wow. I pay 20 something euros a month for a bundle of TV, telephone and 25/20 Mb/s internet connection, completely unlimited.
How is it that countries with vastly more developed infrastructures such as Belgium, or the UK have such...silly limits?
I live in freaking Romania, for goodness sake! Have you people SEEN the roads here?
Edit: is it just a case of plain old corporate greed on the part of the ISPs?
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Hemp Invader
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:19:00 -
[78]
Originally by: KWyz
Edited by: KWyz on 03/02/2011 17:12:11
Wow...I mean...just wow. I pay 20 something euros a month for a bundle of TV, telephone and 25/20 Mb/s internet connection, completely unlimited.
How is it that countries with vastly more developed infrastructures such as Belgium, or the UK have such...silly limits?
I live in freaking Romania, for goodness sake! Have you people SEEN the roads here?
Edit: is it just a case of plain old corporate greed on the part of the ISPs?
Hey I live in Romania too, and I can confirm that I pay less on internet subscription than on eve online. And even though you may think my connection is cheap ass, I have 20 Mb/s external bandwidth with unlimited download/upload :).
@op: What can I say, your country sucks....bad.
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:31:00 -
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Uh oh, you learn something new everyday. I pretty much thought Romania was all donkey chariots and stone/stick things. You have EVE!?!?! And with better connection as I do...bugger!
Originally by: CCP Shadow
Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:33:00 -
[80]
Aaaaaah... I love the Canadian government.
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Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:44:00 -
[81]
Originally by: KWyz
I live in freaking Romania, for goodness sake! Have you people SEEN the roads here?
Yes, and if I ever get there (not likely) I want to drive this. Saw it on Top Gear and it looks amazing.
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:46:00 -
[82]
Wire shark is your friend
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Bobbee Sephora
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:55:00 -
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heh.. I had 10gb of traffic on my phone last months bill... wow. Good thing I am connected into the fiber backbone of our public utility district. 70mb average download speed, 50mb average upload, unlimited... 40 bucks. Best of luck.
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Hun Tim
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Posted - 2011.02.03 18:10:00 -
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I live in a somewhat rural location and the only broadband I can get is satellite (WildBlue). Since I have a 7.5 GB/mo limit (yes it stinks) I pay attention to my usage. Eve has typically used about 3-7 meg per hour doing general stuff. I don't know if the new avatar stuff has affected it much, but my total usage doesn't seem to have changed much, so I'm assuming not, since 95% of my internet usage is Eve. 
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paracidic
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.03 18:41:00 -
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I have been told today that the Canadian Govt has told crtc that if they do not recind the decision that the Cabinet will be making an order in council and then press a law through so this is a dead issue.
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Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.02.03 18:56:00 -
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I went full out tinfoil mode when I saw this. 
Ended up with about 10 tabs open in my browser reading up on everything, signing the petition, and coming to the realization that my previous 'unlimited' plan now has a 60GB cap with a $2 charge for each GB I go over. I'd say normally that amount would be sufficient, except I'm well aware how large many games are that I download with Steam, and that Netflix would be completely screwed over, etc etc.
:crikey:
Glad to see the Govt moving to reverse this. Also made me much more aware of alternative ISP providers out there, so much thanks for the links and info provided in this thread.
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Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle
Nostradamus Effect
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Posted - 2011.02.03 19:35:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Corporal Punishment08 on 03/02/2011 19:36:03
FYI,
They're saying that this new CRTC ruling was a knee-jerk reaction to Netflix coming to Canada (I think someone already mentioned this).
Also, just so you all know, here is what I pay:
Home phone/Cable TV/Internet = $120cad per month
Cable TV is nothing special. Standard cable package, no special order channels.
Cell Phone: $25cad per month
No voicemail, no call display, nothing extra
For reference, the Canadian Loonie is pretty much on par with the American Greenback, which is worth about .75 Euros.
Some people say our rates aren't bad. Others say our rates are ridiculous. What do you think?
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Avernus
Gallente
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.02.03 19:40:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Corporal Punishment08
Edited by: Corporal Punishment08 on 03/02/2011 19:36:03
FYI,
They're saying that this new CRTC ruling was a knee-jerk reaction to Netflix coming to Canada (I think someone already mentioned this).
Also, just so you all know, here is what I pay:
Home phone/Cable TV/Internet = $120cad per month
Cable TV is nothing special. Standard cable package, no special order channels.
Cell Phone: $25cad per month
No voicemail, no call display, nothing extra
For reference, the Canadian Loonie is pretty much on par with the American Greenback, which is worth about .75 Euros.
Some people say our rates aren't bad. Others say our rates are ridiculous. What do you think?
Damn son! (Compared internationally, our rates royally suck ass)
Who are you with? Looking at similar setup to yourself with Shaw in MB, $75 a month, 15mbps down, 1mbps up connection.
Just got off the phone with Shaw, no word yet on if they'll rescind the overusage fees with what is happening with CRTC.
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Pehk Mak'mel'ahma
ODATRIK Integrated Solutions
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Posted - 2011.02.03 20:17:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Pehk Mak''mel''ahma on 03/02/2011 20:24:27
Originally by: KWyz
I live in freaking Romania, for goodness sake! Have you people SEEN the roads here?
A neighbour from Romania tells me Steeles Avenue in Toronto reminds him of home :)
Pehk
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CCP Yokai
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Posted - 2011.02.04 15:56:00 -
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Okay, so I did some checking...
Today we do not track this. We keep up with the CPU and Memory used per player on our cluster but not the bandwidth per user.
I think it's a really good idea to have this data and I am asking our leet DBA's and Network guys to start collecting it.
It will take another week or so to get some of this out to the thread... but I will post here when I have it.
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