Also not everyone flies in a gang.

It would seem overpowered to be able to interfere with the LOCK RANGE or 4+ ships in a single ship right?

Well how about the damn Falcon being able to almost completely remove 4+ ships from a fight whatsoever (notwithstanding smartbombs or drones that already have a target).

I am still amazed that this bullshit is allowed to go on.

ECM is so ubiquitous it's a joke. CCP really should do something about this pathetic 'chance based' (lol) mechanic.

In before all the cowards that can't handle risk come in defending overpowered mechanics. "I can't risk having someone actually fighting while I PVP".

Also, well done for implying ecm is chance based. It is nigh on guaranteed to jam every time.

I feel your pain!

if only eve had modules to counter such ships, like a module which increases your sensor strength or boost your locking range. They could be called sensor booster and maybe ECCM... but i doubt ccp would ever introduce them into the game :(

More ridiculous lies about how powerful ECM is posted by someone more interested in hyperbole than facts.
Do you work for the republicans?

There's ways to deal with ECM, I'm sorry that you're unwilling to use them.

Hint: it's more than just ECCM

ECM is a force multiplyer much teh same as logistics. Take away theese abilities and Eve is reduced EVEN MORE to a numbers game.

A small gang with ECM can fight a lrager force. A small gang with ECM and logistics can fight an even larger force. Send a small gang with neither against a larger force and it dies almost every time unless using such tactics as kiting.

A kiting force will destroy a larger force that can not hit it. Is that overpowered? If the defending force has ecm they can force teh kiting force to leave the field or render tehm inefective, is that overpowered?

In massive fleet fights, both sides often have ECM, taking people out of the combat, is that overpowered?

ECM seems overpowered in specific circumstances, if the enemy force has ECM adn a larger number, you will be overwhelmed fast, is that overpowered? They would probably have killed your force anyway. If teh smaller force had the ECM teh battlfield is levelled. Is that overpowered?


Think about what you are saying and look at it form other angles. If you are just but hurt because someone beat you down using ECM, that isnt a reason for it to be changed, it may be a reason for you to look at your own fleet compositions though.

A falcon with 6 jammers has no tank and can be instapopped almost just by looking at it.

projected ECCM sig amps rigs? and so on?

You misspelled dirty f'ing liberal democrats.

It would seem overpowered to be able to interfere with the LOCK RANGE or 4+ ships in a single ship right?

Well how about the damn Falcon being able to almost completely remove 4+ ships from a fight whatsoever (notwithstanding smartbombs or drones that already have a target).

I am still amazed that this bullshit is allowed to go on.

ECM is so ubiquitous it's a joke. CCP really should do something about this pathetic 'chance based' (lol) mechanic.

In before all the cowards that can't handle risk come in defending overpowered mechanics. "I can't risk having someone actually fighting while I PVP".

Why not atleast remove perma-jamming, maybe have it capped at 30secs-1min then there's a 15 second cooldown of sorts before they can continue to stop you playing.

I think that the main reason people think Falcons are OP is how much they matter in small engagements, let's say there's two 5 man gangs facing off, one's a nano gang with 1 Vaga, 1 Cynabal, 2 Canes and a Scimitar The other's a mixed match gang of 4 t1 frigs and a Falcon. Providing the Falcon has the correct ECM and the pilot isn't suffering from a seizure or wife aggro the frig gang would win 9/10.

To only real way to counter the Falcon is with more Falcons or just blob it, which is ********, and doesn't mean that it isn't OP.

OMG, really a "because of falcon" post in 2012? dude your late to the party just go cry in a corner somewhere.

Of course you can play. When you are jammed, you are playing - if you are being jammed it means someone else is NOT being jammed. So take one for the team, it's only 20 seconds jeez. In the meantime you could be, I dunno, burning towards the falcon so the minute the lock breaks you are on top of him and he's in range, perhaps?

I feel your pain!

if only eve had modules to counter such ships, like a module which increases your sensor strength or boost your locking range. They could be called sensor booster and maybe ECCM... but i doubt ccp would ever introduce them into the game :(

You have decided to add in a scenario where there are other people, because it suits a point you are intending to win.
Then you decided I am in a ship that can burn to the falcon, because it suits a point you are intending to win.
And you also decided that I am in a ship faster than a falcon, because it suits a point you are intending to win.

So based on this, you either don't have a prop mod or are flying a MWD battleship solo, based on the fact you can't "burn" and are slower than a falcon.

From this information, I can conclude it's not ECM's fault you're dying, it might be a case of PEBKAC.

That fleet comp should OWN 4 frigs and a falcon becasue if he jams the DPS the scimmy should keep them alive and if he jams the scimmy the one unjammed DPS boat from that list should no problem at all killing frigs. there is no way a competent group of pilots in those ships should lose to four frigates because of one falcon. Also who flies a minny only gang? you are asking for some idiot to bring a jammer boat and **** you off because its easy against single race fleets.