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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.01.27 22:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Martinus Crimson
Lol .... am i the only one seeing that basically suprem didn't even fought 3FA directly. But 3FA did fall, And JQA is still standing. Nice work guy's, i guess its time to pick my old occupation up again.
We didn't?
They were our first target of our first attack.
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Maud
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Posted - 2005.01.27 22:57:00 -
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How do you guys sleep at night - probly facing each other i guess
For an aliance which was supposedly Anti Pirate you soon embraced a group which includes a number of known pirate corps.
As for the JQA becoming an agresive aliance ganking neutrals as the reason to do this.. don't mock peoples inteligence.
People know the real reason was you have turned pirate and ditched our friendship was because the JQA are too busy to come & bail you out when you overstreach yourselves & get into trouble.
This may work for you as you have allied with nearly every local pirate so any combat ineptitude would only be punished by the npc's or wandering noobs who venture out of empire.
I am probly tarring some of the old 3rd front with the wrong pirate brush as I do believe there are some good people amongst you. I aplogise to them for my Bile filled post.
I am just glad to be part of an aliance that holds decency as one of its goals.
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Monkiboy
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:00:00 -
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Supremacy guys please dont feed the trolls, or in some cases, become them.
Please see my post in our forums, thanks.
Monkiboy
Supremacy
Communications Director
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lacrimae
Arboc, I think you are misunderstand something. This deal is made with Supremacy, Black Reign and Black Omega Security, not with Imperium. We will continue to shoot down any Imperium member (and others) committing piracy in Syndicate.
You know that this sort of fence-sitting always leads to trouble. SUPRM will defend their Imperium buddies.
You should check up on EVE history to see umpteen examples of this kind of stand leading to a lot more trouble.
Just my observation.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lacrimae
We will continue to shoot down any Imperium member (and others) committing piracy in Syndicate.
Supremacy aggread to that?
In Imperium's thread;
Originally by: The Enslaver
Supremacy will defend Imperium, but remain seperate. All neutrals currently operating in the syndicate region should be warned that non-allies of Supremacy Corporation will be KOS.
Bit of a mix up there? Whats going to happen when a 3rd Front guy shoots a Imperium infront of a Supremacy pilot?
Just trying to clear things up  .
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Ifni
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:07:00 -
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So did Supremacy defeat the endboss of JQA yet?
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Eleese
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:08:00 -
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Anyone else find this extremely funny? :)
I mean i know JQA wont because they've been royally let down and shafted. But im sure imperium are having a good laugh.
But i find the bit were you insult xetic who flew to aid you from pirate corps invading yours and jqa space when there was no nap between us also pretty funny. |
Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:11:00 -
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Well well well.
Isn't this interesting, I think I'll refrain from flaming here out of respect for 3rd front alliance's actions.
Oh what the hell a little flaming can't hurt.
JQA; does it really surprise you that others don't want to be associated with your neutral ganking behavior ? Enjoy dying, you'll be doing a lot of it if I have anything to say about it (and I do  ).
3rd Front: I'll make sure any pirates and mercs I send up there to prey on JQA in the future leave you guys alone. (So far I haven't mentioned you at all since you're neutral to me)
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Monkiboy
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:14:00 -
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As I understand this-
All of Imperium and Supremacy, Black Reign and Black Omega Security are 5.1+ to 3FA in both directions with the exception of Clan Killers and Armoured Assassins.
These 2 are still hostile to 3FA I believe.
As such, we will not intervene on either side- it is part of the agreement.
Combat between these parties is not permitted in our space.
Clan Killers and Armoured Assassins share a common foe in JQA, hence our relationship.
As long as conversation occurs, any misunderstanding can be sorted out peacefully.
Points of contact: The Enslaver and Tholarim during EU time, myself during US time.
Monkiboy
Supremacy
Communications Director
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Wicke
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: Wicke on 27/01/2005 23:15:42
I have lost all my respect for the 3FA.
After SUPRM leaves I dont see anyway we can treat you anything more then neutral at best.
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Thryr Merim
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:18:00 -
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This has to be the collection of most clueless posts ever.
m0o kills | DNA kills |
Avernus
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:39:00 -
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Basically, I'm a completely neutral party in this discussion, but the contents of this post have grabbed my interest.
From everything I read here a few things seem obvious when ones emotions aren't involved. 3FA did what it had to do, and for good reasons; it seems like the majority of JQA posters here need to take a harder look at their own alliance and the reasons 3FA has given for the change in standings.
Kudos to 3FA for making a decision that couldn't have possibly been easy, but resulted in staying true to your principles.
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Artharas
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Basically, I'm a completely neutral party in this discussion, but the contents of this post have grabbed my interest.
From everything I read here a few things seem obvious when ones emotions aren't involved. 3FA did what it had to do, and for good reasons; it seems like the majority of JQA posters here need to take a harder look at their own alliance and the reasons 3FA has given for the change in standings.
Kudos to 3FA for making a decision that couldn't have possibly been easy, but resulted in staying true to your principles.
Tends to happen when you only hear one side of the story.
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Alzaria Lassem
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Posted - 2005.01.27 23:45:00 -
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Congratulations to 3rd Front for making the break, I hope that the invaders treat you well since you clearly do not stand for the piracy JQA did!
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Cenzo
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:02:00 -
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Would 3FA consider accepting corps from JQA that are displeased with how their alliance is running?
... just a thought I'd like to toss out.
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Marruni
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:04:00 -
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Clipped Wings a pirate now and 3FA 
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Avernus
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Artharas
Originally by: Avernus
Basically, I'm a completely neutral party in this discussion, but the contents of this post have grabbed my interest.
From everything I read here a few things seem obvious when ones emotions aren't involved. 3FA did what it had to do, and for good reasons; it seems like the majority of JQA posters here need to take a harder look at their own alliance and the reasons 3FA has given for the change in standings.
Kudos to 3FA for making a decision that couldn't have possibly been easy, but resulted in staying true to your principles.
Tends to happen when you only hear one side of the story.
Also tends to happen when I view JQA pilots making posts that ignore the actual details of the agreement that has come about. I don't pretend to know the full situation, or even half of the story. What I can base my judgements on, and what every other neutral minded person reading this post will base their opinions on, is the content of the replies made by JQA.
I take everything with a grain of salt on these boards, but there are some things that will stand out if you look for them.
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Cantari
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Cantari on 28/01/2005 00:08:37
Well if you think JQA is into ganking NEUTRALS why make your self NEUTRAL?
Flawed logic in there somewhere.
And may I just say, what ever happens I will remember what has happened here this day. No 3FA pilot will fly safely as long as I play EvE. Enjoy.
Cantari
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One Percent
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:12:00 -
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Saw this one coming a long way off.
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Destruct
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
3FA did what it had to do, and for good reasons; it seems like the majority of JQA posters here need to take a harder look at their own alliance and the reasons 3FA has given for the change in standings.
Kudos to 3FA for making a decision that couldn't have possibly been easy, but resulted in staying true to your principles.
This is why JQA-members are upset. The stated reason for this 180 degree turn is nothing but a lie. JQA was founded to fight pirates and outlaws to keep lower syndicate safe for all. we still live by that paragon. i regret the innocents that has been caught in the middle but it has never been our intention to kill neutrals and we do try to remedy those.
JQA and 3FA has shared the same views and been friends for a very long time. We have, to the best of our abilities, helped protecting our respective little corners of space. Nullifying one of the longest lasting alliances in EvE would have been one thing but to stab us in the back by lying to the community to make us look bad and nap'ing with the forces contesting our homes is a huge disspointment.
You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
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Monkiboy
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cantari
Edited by: Cantari on 28/01/2005 00:08:37
Well if you think JQA is into ganking NEUTRALS why make your self NEUTRAL?
Flawed logic in there somewhere.
And may I just say, what ever happens I will remember what has happened here this day. No 3FA pilot will fly safely as long as I play EvE. Enjoy.
Cantari
You might want to route such threats through your alliance ambassadors.
Monkiboy
Supremacy
Communications Director
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lollerskates
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:24:00 -
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Shocking... Well goodluck to jqa keeping their space, I'll sure miss them if they leave :<
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:39:00 -
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I can't say I'm not disappointed. I wish we could have worked this out.
I'm not going to flame. I respect 3rd front too much to let angry words fall now. You guys did what you thought you had to do, so be it.
We have long known that Supremacy are quite adept at undermining people's resolve to fight them through diplomacy (even if it is shotgun-style). I'm sorry to see you fall victim to it, but I guess you can afford to stay out of the conflict...for now.
Mind you, you shouldn't trust Supremacy farther than you can throw them. I've seen them change positions 180¦ at least two times since they arrived in Syndicate, saying one thing and then doing another (and I must applaud how vigorously they have done this, even if I am at the blunt end of it).
Be on your guard, 3rd front. Be watchful of your new allies.
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Theoraden
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Posted - 2005.01.28 00:44:00 -
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JQA are not an anti-pirate alliance, they are just an alliance that kills anything that comes near their Crokite.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Theoraden
JQA are not an anti-pirate alliance, they are just an alliance that kills anything that comes near their Crokite.
I wonder why we are getting flak from Celestial Apocalypse now?
As for anti-pirate, you should know very well that it is easy to twist those words any way you like. That doesn't make them true.
Frankly, I would not have expected a Celest member to play the word-twisting game.
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The Chef
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:05:00 -
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What is most worrying is that 3rd front did not make any efforts to communicate this to JQA through official channels. Our diplomats were not told anything, and there was no post on our forums about this issue.
One can't help but feel that this issue would have been quite easy to solve if only the proper channels had been used to communicate your feelings.
That, or the real reason has not yet been given.
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Ichabod Crane
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:06:00 -
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3FA are not pirates, nor will they ever be.
JQA have every right to feel betrayed by our actions, and I would expect nothing but condemnation. But do not insult us with petty claims of piracy on our part.
I respect your descision to fight on, and I would expect nothing less; however your conduct on these boards both towards us and others has been appauling, regarding that I am at a loss for words.
We do what we must to survive, and there are other ways to solve a conflict than through military might.
You will hear nothing more from me on the matter.
Regards,
Ichabod Crane.
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Asier
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Asier on 28/01/2005 08:06:11
Edited for hipocracy. Dont even know if that's spelled right :)
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Bertie
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:08:00 -
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So I see JQA being touted as 'Pirate Alliance' now, and 3FA being congratulated for breaking away and joining the xCA horde.
???!!!!WTFHASTHEWORLDGONEMAD??!!!!
FACT: JQA has ALWAYS been anti-pirate and it's member corps honour that religiously.
FACT: Any neutral shot down in error by JQA has a route to complain and we will recompense them for thier loss - does this practice sound like a pirate alliance to you??
FACT: xCA can be classed as nothing but a pirate group given their recent invasions and convenient associations with pirate corps
FACT: xCA have been throwing propaganda around JQA member corps for days, offering 'Get out now and we'll give you safe passage' and 'We would like to co-exist...'. Both have been rejected as we will not succumb to a pirate group. Were JQA the only ones to get those offers? I think not. And that sheds an interesting light on this development now doesn't it?
FACT: I am proud that JQA is standing it's ground on this. I for one would be ashamed to be a part of an alliance that sold out on either itself or its allies.
NB These opinions are my own and do not purport to represent either my corp or JQA.
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Theoraden
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
Originally by: Theoraden
JQA are not an anti-pirate alliance, they are just an alliance that kills anything that comes near their Crokite.
I wonder why we are getting flak from Celestial Apocalypse now?
As for anti-pirate, you should know very well that it is easy to twist those words any way you like. That doesn't make them true.
Frankly, I would not have expected a Celest member to play the word-twisting game.
Oi, I do not speak as Celests voice, I was in JQA, and I am voicing my opinion on their status PvP wise. Celest has no opinion on JQA.
You guys don't actively go out to kill pirates, you just shoot anything within your borders, if you were truely anti-pirate you'd do something about the ones that infest lower syndicate.
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