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Asier
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:09:00 -
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Edited by: Asier on 28/01/2005 08:19:59
Edited for hipocracy again...
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Goauld
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Ichabod Crane
3FA are not pirates,
Ichabod Crane.
That im afraid i have to agree with.
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Hessi
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Hessi on 28/01/2005 01:13:51
Originally by: Ichabod Crane
We do what we must to survive, and there are other ways to solve a conflict than through military might.
Thanks for giving out the real reason why you did what you did instead of some diplomatic whitewash painting old former friends as evil.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Theoraden
You guys don't actively go out to kill pirates, you just shoot anything within your borders,
Apparently, a lot has changed since you were a member.
Read about the y9g and m2 accusations. Those actions were taken by JQA to route out pirates. Our navy had the responsibility to seek out pirates beyond our borders before the xCA war as well.
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
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CKieschnick
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:19:00 -
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lol that corp asier, dna has a char in there also oh nos ;)
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Cmdr Sp0ck
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:20:00 -
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What's so wrong with shooting unknown people in your claimed space?
Morale issues?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:23:00 -
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Your navy needs lessons in the difference between ganking everyone they encounter and killing "pirates", but I guess there's no point anymore, your image as a whole is already so tainted even your closest allies choose not to associate with you anymore.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:25:00 -
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Yes, I know about your little incident. We apologized. That horse is dead already.
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
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lollerskates
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:28:00 -
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JQA has always shot anyone who goes into their space, and nobody ever cared because your not going through vv to go anywhere... The problem was just when they claimed M2-CF1, one of the major hubs of lower syndicate. Now legitimate people going to solitude run the risk of getting shot down.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:37:00 -
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I don't remember an apology, nor even being contacted by anyone from JQA, nor will I let it drop, ever 
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Diemos
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Diemos on 28/01/2005 01:43:25
Originally by: Bertie
So I see JQA being touted as 'Pirate Alliance' now, and 3FA being congratulated for breaking away and joining the xCA horde.
???!!!!WTFHASTHEWORLDGONEMAD??!!!!
FACT: JQA has ALWAYS been anti-pirate and it's member corps honour that religiously.
FACT: Any neutral shot down in error by JQA has a route to complain and we will recompense them for thier loss - does this practice sound like a pirate alliance to you??
FACT: xCA can be classed as nothing but a pirate group given their recent invasions and convenient associations with pirate corps
FACT: xCA have been throwing propaganda around JQA member corps for days, offering 'Get out now and we'll give you safe passage' and 'We would like to co-exist...'. Both have been rejected as we will not succumb to a pirate group. Were JQA the only ones to get those offers? I think not. And that sheds an interesting light on this development now doesn't it?
FACT: I am proud that JQA is standing it's ground on this. I for one would be ashamed to be a part of an alliance that sold out on either itself or its allies.
NB These opinions are my own and do not purport to represent either my corp or JQA.
FACT: I don't give a flying ****
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Ifni
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Posted - 2005.01.28 01:53:00 -
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Edited by: Ifni on 28/01/2005 01:52:43
Originally by: Theoraden
if you were truely anti-pirate you'd do something about the ones that infest lower syndicate.
I don't infest. I linger.
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Kristoffer
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Posted - 2005.01.28 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Clipped Wings
Then the attack came...and it struck us instead. JQA's response was, after we had contained the xCA fleet in our home system for nearly 2 days, was to stand down from full alert to high alert, seeing they were not the targets of the attack.
In my first week as JQA I remember clearly joining a JQA relief fleet sent down to 3FA space because of trouble with Supremacy in your space.
Funny.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.01.28 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: One Percent
Saw this one coming a long way off.
You're not the only one to do so.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.01.28 02:33:00 -
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The face of politics within eve is changing. People's views change. What i ask JQA to consider here, is that 3FA is taking their own members into account here, and their own values.
I'm not asking you to like what's going on here, i've been in a similar situation, yea it's not the nicest of places, but guys don't flame them, appreciate why they've done this.
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Ben Derindar
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Posted - 2005.01.28 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Ben Derindar on 28/01/2005 02:38:03
Originally by: Theoraden
they are just an alliance that kills anything that comes near their Crokite.
Well of course. Every alliance has a right to protect its assets. 
Regards the original statement, I would like to remind everyone that there is a difference between a neutral standing and a hostile standing. Yes, it's unfortunate that 3rd Front are no longer our allies, but there's no need for back-stabbing metaphors unless they decide to actually fire on us. They've said they won't anyway, so that's fine by me.
I can imagine the difficulty with which this decision would have been made, but while not everyone may like what it says or appreciate its timing, we should still respect them for making their position clear.
EDIT: Reverend, I was getting around to it. 
/Ben
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Missa
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Posted - 2005.01.28 02:37:00 -
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Clipped, I love you like a friend of a brother but you have to realize in the battle on the 23rd of Jan most of Xetic and the JQA got kicked from the Eve server about 3 minutes and 40 seconds into the battle. We were not allowed to relog into the game for over 20 minutes when the node went down. There is nothing anyone can do about this problem but CCP. They alone hold the power to fix this and to have prevented it from happening, as well as the power to fix it for the future so it doesn't happen. I really thought more of you...but then again most likely this message from 3rd front I bet is due to some pressure from Suprem and their minions. As far as y9g is concerned, I know that you Clipped have been in contact with people in our alliance on the 21st of this month or earlier by a day or 2. These conversations which I have not seen myself, but have seen reports which clearly state this to be the opposite of what you typed today on the forums...And if that's true and you are just blatantly(sp?) lieing now on the eve-online forums...well I really thought more of you This is all really sad...why Clipped? Why?
--Missa
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Wicke
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Posted - 2005.01.28 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: Wicke on 28/01/2005 03:58:17
Sig Broken but its uber. -.- |
Paladin Knight
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Posted - 2005.01.28 04:12:00 -
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Good Bye Clipped and 3rd Front .
As one of the people that helped set you up where you are today with Wolfman , I must say ..... WTF ?
Iv known you all for a long time , and I know the truth . If I have to start posting all eve mails and chat logs here it wont make 3rd look good at all !
At least you could of told me about this .
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Paladin Knight
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Posted - 2005.01.28 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: Paladin Knight on 28/01/2005 04:15:17
opps posted under the wrong char , this is Nache1
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Dust Brother
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Posted - 2005.01.28 04:35:00 -
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Believe me, we all can read between the lines. 3FA are making up reasons so they dont have to fight. They are simply... S C A R E D... they know it'll be a drawn out war, they know they dont have the might, honor, or courage to be an ally, so they rather claim "neutral" and be amongst themselves.
They basically are living the philosophy... "keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer".
PLAIN AND SIMPLE... 3FA ARE COWARDS.
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CKieschnick
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Posted - 2005.01.28 04:40:00 -
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great way to show repsect to friends calling them cowards and such if it was really backstabbing yall like half of you are crying about they would be shooting at you but there not, go figure.
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Dust Brother
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Posted - 2005.01.28 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: CKieschnick
great way to show repsect to friends calling them cowards and such if it was really backstabbing yall like half of you are crying about they would be shooting at you but there not, go figure.
who said i was a friend? anyway, seems to me if JQA does get overun, perhaps they'll be looking for a home where 3FA now resides. a knife in the back is hard to forget.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.01.28 05:34:00 -
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JQA are class acts, sorry to see this happen to them.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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PASTOR TROY
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Posted - 2005.01.28 05:41:00 -
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Eh, I have seen this story somewhere before..hmmm where was it? Oh yeah I remember ..It was in the north. Except with diffrent characters... Hmm let me guess Supremecy = Bob, That means JQA = PA, then that makes 3rd front=N.S.A/fade union. So that means 3rd front goes nuetral(check).. Supremecy and allies concentrates on JQA(check). Once JQA is defeated or almost defeated. Supremecy start using their pirate friends to start harassing 3rd front. Then Supremecy makes up excuse(plotting attack, lost frigate, etc..) to attack 3rd front. Supremecy wins..
Hmm history repeats itself.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.01.28 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Baun
JQA are class acts, sorry to see this happen to them.
Too bad the same cant be said for you.
Wise decision to seek peace with these corporations. It takes bold leadership to look to the future rather than living in the past. These are three of the best, if not THE best corps in Eve. Their word can be taken straight to the bank.
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fugazii
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Posted - 2005.01.28 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Arboc
So 3rd Front are now pirates...
Shame, looks like JQA are the only anti-pirate alliance in Syndicate now.
& before you jump on your high horse clipped, do not even try to say that you are not pirates, just look who your bed fellows are.. Clan Killers, Geeklab, Armoured Assasins, Supremacy, ect...
there are no pirates in .0 because to be a pirate youd need to break a law of some type, .0 systems lack laws therefor making what you said untrue. in .0 theres only attackers and defenders, no neutrals, no pirates, no good/bad guys.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.01.28 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: Baun
JQA are class acts, sorry to see this happen to them.
Too bad the same cant be said for you.
Stinging over getting absolutely owned today are you? Don't troll this thread please. Keep it on topic.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.01.28 06:03:00 -
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Edited by: Vince Draken on 28/01/2005 06:03:56
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: Baun
JQA are class acts, sorry to see this happen to them.
Too bad the same cant be said for you.
Stinging over getting absolutely owned today are you? Don't troll this thread please. Keep it on topic.
LOL, keep dreaming. By FA's standards killing 5 and lossing 4 is pounding someone. I guess you really do suck.
Onoes, you got one more Shinra battleship in an engament. You should be truely proud. Our current kill loss ration for bs is over 20:1. Including the 6 we have liberated from safespots.
Keep trying Baun and you might be as believable as Fox News.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.01.28 06:06:00 -
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Oh yeah, glad I bought all those offices with an alt corp in FOuntain now. I'll be smoking a victory cigar their soon enough.
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