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Clown Pron	Posted - 2011.02.25 00:45:00 - [31] Originally by: Misty McGinnity Shut the **** up
Estel Arador	Posted - 2011.02.25 00:52:00 - [32] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha 1) Never got why you are so depressingly confrontative (or worse) in the large majority of your replies to anyone. I'm afraid you have to wrong impression of me. I can be confrontational sometimes, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply to "the large majority" of my replies. I have made nearly 7200 posts, many of them quite decent and sometimes even helpful. Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha 2) CCP tends to forbid to repost even simple in game things, Name one 'simple' ingame thing, other than killmails - I wouldn't consider communication with CCP employees and bugs/exploits to be simple. With these three categories, I believe most restrictions are covered. Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I don't want a 3rd party private convos being forwarded to another 3rd party that could even publish it in a nonconsensual way. You don't want it so you refer to some fictional rules; I'm not sure if that's the best way to support your opinion. Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha In case saying it 3 times was not clear enough, he can give the API to whoever he wants. It's the possibility that a 3rd party would phish his mail via API and post "confidential" screenshots sent in a trust relationship that don't fly with me. Great - so I can sabotage any audit by unilaterally sending information which I don't want the auditor to see to the auditee and then claiming confidentiality. Seems like a good system to me!
Misty McGinnity	Posted - 2011.02.25 00:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Clown Pron Originally by: Misty McGinnity Shut the **** up U mad? trollface.jpg
Clown Pron	Posted - 2011.02.25 01:04:00 - [34] Originally by: Misty McGinnity Originally by: Clown Pron Originally by: Misty McGinnity Shut the **** up U mad? trollface.jpg No, everybody wants you to stfu, biomass, uninstall and buy a gun
Misty McGinnity	Posted - 2011.02.25 01:10:00 - [35] Originally by: Clown Pron No, everybody wants you to stfu, biomass, uninstall and buy a gun he mad. interesting Audits can easily be sabotaged by sending a mail, further de-bunking there "need"
Krythas	Posted - 2011.02.25 01:26:00 - [36] Originally by: Misty McGinnity interesting Audits can easily be sabotaged by sending a mail, further de-bunking there "need" Why only interesting audits ? and who's "need" is it ? if it's an interesting audits "need" then why would they need to have a "need" and what exactly is a "need" anyway ? is it like a pony ? I like ponys.
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six	Posted - 2011.02.25 02:00:00 - [37] Originally by: cosmoray After reading several reviews about collateral and security, I realise I haven't been audited since 2008 for my first business. I plan to rectify this. When I return from travelling (I may be back Friday) I will release my API details on MD, allowing EVERYONE to conduct there own audit of me. You get to see my highs and lows, my collateral holding, my loans, my trades, ........ EVERYTHING Over the weekend, I will announce time, I will release the LIMITED API code. I will also make the FULL API code available to well known auditors if they want it. I will post in this thread the time that I will release the API codes. Then you get to have some fun. TRUE TRANSPARENCY!!! Is it just me or does this sound overly dramatic for just releasing audit data? Hmmm. ______________________________
Ray McCormack Nordar Innovations.	Posted - 2011.02.25 04:45:00 - [38] Originally by: cosmoray FULL API KEY: JrQKHWpeZbFG6GUR8eEKoUqilsNoFRD2IbzK7BSpCLn5ppLdg77fnoz8a6xkrRL9 Useless without your userid. And effectively useless if not cached through a proxy, people will just be fighting for the next few days to beat the cache timers. Not in the Exchange, don't invest!
Ave Volta Black Frog Logistics Red-Frog	Posted - 2011.02.25 06:30:00 - [39] It's threads like these that remind me that when important issues come up, you can always trust MD to come together in the spirit of colaboration and brotherhood to tackle the great questions of industry. This thread has brought out the best in everyone! -------------------------------- RED FROG ALLIANCE: Here, There, and Everywhere.
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 11:10:00 - [40] Originally by: Kalrand Originally by: Ray McCormack With AATP's API being public, the dozens of people constantly demanding public oversight very vocally but never with any real follow up action failed to notice the BPOs being unlocked and contracted to another corp several weeks ago. Was that the big announcement? Quoted because I didn't see an answer.

Ray McCormack Nordar Innovations.	Posted - 2011.02.25 11:51:00 - [41] Originally by: Ave Volta This thread has brought out the best in everyone! Yeah, I hate the fact I'm having to re-associate douche-bags to portraits, used to be I could skip posts just from their ugly mugshots. Not in the Exchange, don't invest!
Estel Arador	Posted - 2011.02.25 13:02:00 - [42] Originally by: Ray McCormack Yeah, I hate the fact I'm having to re-associate douche-bags to portraits, used to be I could skip posts just from their ugly mugshots. Finally a post from Ray I can agree with!
Femaref Armageddon Day WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.02.25 13:27:00 - [43] Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: cosmoray FULL API KEY: JrQKHWpeZbFG6GUR8eEKoUqilsNoFRD2IbzK7BSpCLn5ppLdg77fnoz8a6xkrRL9 Useless without your userid. And effectively useless if not cached through a proxy, people will just be fighting for the next few days to beat the cache timers. Damn, you don't know anything, do you?
cosmoray Cosmoray Holdings Corp	Posted - 2011.02.25 13:38:00 - [44] Am I missing something here? Do I have to post the user ID for it to provide all the info?
Lost Hamster Hamster Holding Corp	Posted - 2011.02.25 13:46:00 - [45] Originally by: cosmoray Am I missing something here? Do I have to post the user ID for it to provide all the info? The API key is only valid with a user ID. However I would strongly recommend not to publish it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shields are like pants, they're supposed to come off. Armor is like the condom once its gone ur ****ed
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2011.02.25 15:39:00 - [46] Originally by: Selene D'Celeste ......have you even done anything in the past two years that didn't involve speaking without thinking, let alone anything useful? Yes, I stuck around with the mess you helped create at EBANK, and did what I could in a what some call vain attempt in recovery. You're just as responsible for EBANK's mess as anyone else who was there, nice to see you can so easily shrug the burden of responsibility to "customers" off your back. Running at the first sign of trouble and out right abandoning that sense of responsibility isn't exactly a glorified sign of security either. Amarr for Life
flakeys The Great cornholio's	Posted - 2011.02.25 15:41:00 - [47] /me starts handing out popcorn ...
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2011.02.25 15:50:00 - [48] Originally by: flakeys /me starts handing out popcorn ... It'll be a short show - My character has completed it's lines. Amarr for Life
flakeys The Great cornholio's	Posted - 2011.02.25 15:53:00 - [49] /me asks for a refund to the seller for 50 kilo of popcorn
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 15:54:00 - [50] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 24/02/2011 17:01:26 Quote: You are making a vield legal threat against Cosmo. I understand that you don't want your super secret stuff out in the open for the world to see It's not as easy as that. A Cosmo customer (not mine, I don't recall about having heard of him before) contacted me so that I would contact him. The alledged reason is that Cosmo is not reachable. Then he said me things to tell him with screenshots to "prove" it. He did not authorize others to look at his in game chat, I don't even think the EULA would allow for it and for sure I don't want consequences even with a 1% probability it's against the EULA. As for the secret stuff, it's nothing really that important. I would not care to have that posted anywhere but the customer lack of authorization still stands. Dear VV, Get your head out of your butt. You are alleging that players of EVE: Online, the popular Internet space ship game, are required to respect the expressed requests of other players in regards to information disclosed "in private". Were this to be true, then espionage would be against the EULA and could be avoided entirely by the CEO of a corporation placing some fine-print disclaimer in his corporation's description. If you really believe that a request, even if agreed to by both parties, to keep information private is somehow binding, then you are utterly wrong. "Dear potential corporation member and/or out-of-game services user; let it be henceforth stated than any information regarding the activities or disposition of the alliance or corporation, its assets or members, its holdings or influence, < Insert some more legalese here to cover all possible permutations of things that could in any way affect a space ship guild > shall be considered confidential information disclosed to you, the user, in private counsel; therefore, any release of the < aforementioned block of legalese > to any party not expressly authorized to you in writing from the < list of people who can tell you it's okay to release intel > SHALL RESULT IN US CRYING TO CCP ABOUT YOUR EULA VIOLATION, YOU BEING BANNED FROM THIS SPACE SHIP GAME, AND A REAL LIFE LAWSUIT SHALL BE LEVIED AGAINST THREE GENERATIONS OF YOUR DESCENDANTS. Seriously. Take a step back, and realize this game is not nearly as big a deal as you and a lot of other people would like it to be. Two Shots Goonwaffe

Estel Arador	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:07:00 - [51] Careful Two Shots, or VV will accuse you of being a meanie!
Amarr Citizen 155 Nordar Innovations.	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:09:00 - [52] I'd like to take this opportunity to announce my candidacy.
Jackie Fisher Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:10:00 - [53] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 I'd like to take this opportunity to announce my candidacy. Do we need to send you our API key before we can vote for you? Joint Venture Conglomerate
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:10:00 - [54] Originally by: Estel Arador Careful Two Shots, or VV will accuse you of being a meanie! Two Shots Goonwaffe
Amarr Citizen 155 Nordar Innovations.	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:11:00 - [55] Originally by: Jackie Fisher Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 I'd like to take this opportunity to announce my candidacy. Do we need to send you our API key before we can vote for you? Umm, duh.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:13:00 - [56] Originally by: cosmoray Am I missing something here? Do I have to post the user ID for it to provide all the info? I strongly advise you to not post it, because it can be used to attempt a brute force attack against your account. In fact come the new API, for that reason, the user ID won't be to be included any more. Originally by: Two Shots Seriously. Take a step back, and realize this game is not nearly as big a deal as you and a lot of other people would like it to be. The game per se is not a big deal to me at all. I just happen to give a big importance to diligence, customers privacy and committment towards those who trusted me with any tangible or intangible value / information. This is regardless of being a game, RL or whatever and takes precedence over context. I.e. even if it's a game I feel bound to respect the same principles of outside the game. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Amarr Citizen 155 Nordar Innovations.	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:18:00 - [57] Edited by: Amarr Citizen 155 on 25/02/2011 16:19:06 I just threw up in my mouth. Edit And for the reading impaired. :1615118 : JrQKHWpeZbFG6GUR8eEKoUqilsNoFRD2IbzK7BSpCLn5ppLdg77fnoz8a6xkrRL9
Kalrand GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:20:00 - [58] Originally by: flakeys /me asks for a refund to the seller for 50 kilo of popcorn Won't happen. Your KalPopcorn sale was actually bundled along with many other sellers and released as a set of KalCDOs onto the market.
SencneS Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:36:00 - [59] Originally by: Kalrand Won't happen. Your KalPopcorn sale was actually bundled along with many other sellers and released as a set of KalCDOs onto the market. Sounds like a opportunity to get in on the popcorn market, and sweet market it is! Insight incident, setup shop to sell popcorn. Like how McAfee employee virus writers to write non-impact viruses to justify their product. Or Advertisers pushing Malware that looks like Virus protection, emulates your machine is riddled with scary sounding viruses, then sell you the Virus Protection to remove it.. Amarr for Life
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 16:43:00 - [60] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Originally by: Two Shots Seriously. Take a step back, and realize this game is not nearly as big a deal as you and a lot of other people would like it to be. The game per se is not a big deal to me at all. I just happen to give a big importance to diligence, customers privacy and committment towards those who trusted me with any tangible or intangible value / information. This is regardless of being a game, RL or whatever and takes precedence over context. I.e. even if it's a game I feel bound to respect the same principles of outside the game. I like how you completely avoided the point that was expressed in my post (which in case you or some reader didn't know was me contradicting you), and much like a greasy-palmed politician deftly side-stepped the issue to offer an endearing, rehearsed line about your outstanding character. Now that you've taken a moment to remind us all that you're a good person with enough moral fiber to pass a herd of buffalo through your ethical colon, would you care to actually address my counter-claim to your claim? Two Shots Goonwaffe



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