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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2011.03.05 21:46:00 -
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Gonna vote for this guy. His opening post and comments sounded more honest than most stuff I read.
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.05 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Hrothgar Doran Mittani, I have a question. Do you think that CSM should have a veto on some/most/all of CCP's actions/buffs/nerfs/features, etc?
I'm not sure if this has been posted before, but 10 pages is quite a bit to scan. Apoligies in advance to those who allready asked this or something similiar.
It doesn't matter if I think they should have a veto or not, because they never will have a veto.
Half of being a good politician is knowing how to pick your battles. Incarna, for example, has millions of dollars of real-world cash invested in it. It's going to happen. Period; trying to stop it, thinking your group of nine player reps can somehow get in the way of that amount of already-sunk capital, is a waste of effort.
You might be able to offer input and feedback to tweak it or improve it.
Originally by: Malcanis I have a question for mittens!
Assuming the vote fairy woke up in bed next to you one Sunday morning and promised you a wish in return for not saying anything to her boyfriend, who, out of the announced candidates, would comprise your "ideal result" CSM?
1: The Mittani as Chair (obviously) 2: Vile Rat? 3:?
The actual rankings don't matter. Obviously I want the Chair, but if I wanted the chair over ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ELSE I wouldn't vote-split the GSF bloc with Vile Rat. So clearly having VR on the CSM is more important to me than the Chair slot itself. The chair will be a helpful tool if I can get it, though; it shows a mandate, and implies power (even if the actual listed powers of the Chair are minimal).
I want solid and capable people on the CSM who aren't sperglords with no understanding of politics. The sort of person who'll try to 'Stop Incarna' or drone on about trivial bull**** for hours isn't going to help anything. Seleene knows his ****, Death and Krutoj know their ****. White Tree is solid.
I personally think that Meissa owns, having hung out with him at the 09 Fanfest. I think my platform annoys the **** out of him, but if you're a diehard '**** nullsec, **** the mittani' kind of voter, I'd point to Meissa as a sensible, intelligent non-nullsec voice.
Originally by: whaynethepain
All I want is a simple warnings of new developments that may spoil my Eve Online gaming rituals. Or I will ragequit Eve.
The other csm's seem to be speculating future depelopments in Eve as if it was their idea, close as they may become, and little as they effect the outcome, I still find this an insult.
Your my only hope.
I can communicate whatever isn't covered by the NDA. Making sure that news from the CSM actually gets read by the rest of EVE will be a priority.
Originally by: Veranius
I too once thought The Mittani was smug, foul mouthed scamming ***got like most of eve believes the rest of goons to be. Why? Because I had never actually talked/heard him talk and had only read his smug posts on Kugu. After joining the CFC and listening to his last, silver tongued "State of Te Goonion" speech I realized my impression was obviously wrong and that the impression I got from the rest of eve was wrong.
Mayhaps, dear reader, you too have heard such rumors?
I am, in truth, a smug, foul-mouthed scamming ***got. I just happen to have a silver tongue and a gift for politics.
Sins of a Solar Spymaster TheMittani on Twitter |
Kuzim Blaky'all
Minmatar Recycling and Recovery
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Posted - 2011.03.06 01:48:00 -
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sup sup so tehy say on da street, its about what a dawg know, not who a dawg meet but dig it, I been roun da block, an seen da mittani an him walk da walk
re-re ain been aroun' since kuzim's computer burn down to da groun so a dawg cant be presdent of eve a dawg put him endorsmen to a dawg who him belev
so dig it, this is da only endorsmen any dawg need: vote mittani: a force when a dawg playin eve need mad improvmen an him is a dawg who be talkin mad affluent him brinin mad order wit a mandate persuent to what all dawgs need, him da top of da pack, y'all lets sine dis bit: Sincerly: Kuzim Blaky'all
be safe dawg
PS somtims a dawg tax bad dawgs, but dont hate da playa, hate da game Recycliers reprazant!
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.06 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kuzim Blaky'all sup sup so tehy say on da street, its about what a dawg know, not who a dawg meet but dig it, I been roun da block, an seen da mittani an him walk da walk
re-re ain been aroun' since kuzim's computer burn down to da groun so a dawg cant be presdent of eve a dawg put him endorsmen to a dawg who him belev
so dig it, this is da only endorsmen any dawg need: vote mittani: a force when a dawg playin eve need mad improvmen an him is a dawg who be talkin mad affluent him brinin mad order wit a mandate persuent to what all dawgs need, him da top of da pack, y'all lets sine dis bit: Sincerly: Kuzim Blaky'all
be safe dawg
PS somtims a dawg tax bad dawgs, but dont hate da playa, hate da game Recycliers reprazant!
ladies and gentlemen, the only endorsement i will ever need
kuzim, it is an honor~
Sins of a Solar Spymaster TheMittani on Twitter |
Taross
Caldari V.O.C
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Posted - 2011.03.06 02:31:00 -
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It's pretty much a given you're gonna be on the CSM, and so will Seleene. Should you not accept that premise, please treat is as a hypothetical. (And you;d be deluded.) How is two or more big egoes in CSM6 gonna work out? Any prior idea on that? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.06 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Taross It's pretty much a given you're gonna be on the CSM, and so will Seleene. Should you not accept that premise, please treat is as a hypothetical. (And you;d be deluded.) How is two or more big egoes in CSM6 gonna work out? Any prior idea on that?
Mark and I get along like a house on fire, both from ~time served~ together in the Great Wars (with him against us in the first phase, and with us in the second) and we mesh well irl. We've chilled at the Eve Vegas thing as well as the last Fanfest, and I expect we'll do the same this year if he's going to Reyk in 17 days like I am.
Sins of a Solar Spymaster TheMittani on Twitter |
Enriana Shlirapen
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Posted - 2011.03.06 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Taross It's pretty much a given you're gonna be on the CSM, and so will Seleene. Should you not accept that premise, please treat is as a hypothetical. (And you;d be deluded.) How is two or more big egoes in CSM6 gonna work out? Any prior idea on that?
Mark and I get along like a house on fire, both from ~time served~ together in the Great Wars (with him against us in the first phase, and with us in the second) and we mesh well irl. We've chilled at the Eve Vegas thing as well as the last Fanfest, and I expect we'll do the same this year if he's going to Reyk in 17 days like I am.
Mark, in light of all these douchy words, would you care to comment?
Alexander, the high sec ignorant idiots may not be so easily pursuaded by your point of view. Never the less they do seem to be a power to be reckoned with. What would you say to someone 2 months in the game?
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.06 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Enriana Shli****n
Alexander, the high sec ignorant idiots may not be so easily pursuaded by your point of view. Never the less they do seem to be a power to be reckoned with. What would you say to someone 2 months in the game?
If you're a newbie, pretty much no one besides Eve University or TEST cares about the newbie experience in EVE as much as Goonswarm. We recruit newbies into the game constantly from SA, and the rifter has always been our main ship of the line.
(well, until we discovered maelstroms)
Anything that is good for newbies is something I'm behind; half of the trouble of running my alliance is often convincing new players that this buggy, hideous game is actually fun and not hideous.
Sins of a Solar Spymaster TheMittani on Twitter |
Enriana Shlirapen
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Posted - 2011.03.06 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Enriana Shli****n
Alexander, the high sec ignorant idiots may not be so easily pursuaded by your point of view. Never the less they do seem to be a power to be reckoned with. What would you say to someone 2 months in the game?
If you're a newbie, pretty much no one besides Eve University or TEST cares about the newbie experience in EVE as much as Goonswarm. We recruit newbies into the game constantly from SA, and the rifter has always been our main ship of the line.
(well, until we discovered maelstroms)
Anything that is good for newbies is something I'm behind; half of the trouble of running my alliance is often convincing new players that this buggy, hideous game is actually fun and not hideous.
oops Alex..'rifters' 'my alliance' :s
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Tango Zulu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.06 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kuzim Blaky'all da only endorsmen any dawg need
Hoh-lee Sh*******t. It haf ben dark times wit out ya dawg. Dark dark indeed.
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Kuzim Blaky'all
Minmatar Recycling and Recovery
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Posted - 2011.03.06 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tango Zulu
Originally by: Kuzim Blaky'all da only endorsmen any dawg need
Hoh-lee Sh*******t. It haf ben dark times wit out ya dawg. Dark dark indeed.
a dawg him been all about sellin mad hotdawgs dawg, else a dawg been a dawghouse wit mad bad luck.
mi ain want to tell him story up in eveside, takin away mittinis moment dig, maybe a dawg mail a dawg kuzim2skarkonstreet.info
be safe
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ImmaSplodeYou
HAMMERHOUSE
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Posted - 2011.03.06 10:26:00 -
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hey you're before my time but that's an awesome gimmick, well done
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.03.06 14:49:00 -
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I thought long and hard about posting here as I'm sure to get attacked by Goonswarm members seeing this as an attack on their leader, but it needs to be said:
Mittans, on SHC someone posted a quote from a Goonswarm internal thread by you communicating your feelings about one other particular CSM candidate: Trebor Daehdoow, and I quote the relevant bit:
Quote: (on why people on SHC like Trebor)...'why can't every candidate be just like Trebor' - who Helen Highwater identified as one of the most dangerous idiots on CSM5...
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Trebor is the CSM5 member who was directly responsible for the crowd sourcing initiative here on these forums where players could prioritize the wishes from a list of CSM issues that are on the CCP backlog. The results of that - the low hanging fruit, or easy-to-fix parts of game issues - led to the formation of CCP's so-called team BFF fixing at a fast rate exactly many of those issues.
I would honestly like to know what drives you and other Goon members to bad-mouth him behind closed doors. he has a proven track record on the CSM of getting real work done that benefits all of us.
The only conclusion I can come to is that you perceive him as a threat to some part of your in-game alliance, I presume his support for the nerfing of jump bridges as was speculated about by others.
I should also point out that your claim "They're lying to you" seems to actually mean "I'm lying to you". You do openly admit to being mean and devious, though, so I suppose it's us that would be the suckers if we were to believe that claim.
That said, I presume you will get into the CSM regardless due to the Goons' bloc vote and I implore you to at least try not be so divisive so as to revert the CSM back into the irrelevance it had a couple of years ago.
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Two Shots
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.06 17:13:00 -
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I don't see any reason goons would flock to attack you for that post.
But the answer to your question is simple: we don't like that guy because he's not our guy. The same way bloc/party voters in real life blindly support their side's candidate, people in EVE blindly support their side's candidate. And you know what that means? That means that the other guy's candidate is an idiot, a bigot, a pedophile, and drowns kittens in his spare time. Politics is politics.
Two Shots Goonwaffe |
Hans Geering
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Posted - 2011.03.06 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Two Shots That means that the other guy's candidate drowns kittens in his spare time.
I'd vote for that guy, **** kittens.
Why did you choose Vile Rat as your running mate?
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.06 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Geering
Why did you choose Vile Rat as your running mate?
Vile Rat has a proven record of diplomatic brilliance that has been honed over the course of the Great War, and he works for the State Department. He's savvy, intelligent, and pragmatic. We've worked as a team for many years.
Sins of a Solar Spymaster TheMittani on Twitter |
ImmaSplodeYou
HAMMERHOUSE
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Posted - 2011.03.06 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Hans Geering
Why did you choose Vile Rat as your running mate?
Vile Rat has a proven record of diplomatic brilliance that has been honed over the course of the Great War, and he works for the State Department. He's savvy, intelligent, and pragmatic. We've worked as a team for many years.
As you can tell they also have a budding bromance going on
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Kayl Breinhar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.07 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Hans Geering
Why did you choose Vile Rat as your running mate?
Vile Rat has a proven record of diplomatic brilliance that has been honed over the course of the Great War, and he works for the State Department. He's savvy, intelligent, and pragmatic. We've worked as a team for many years.
As you can tell they also have a budding bromance going on
One might say even that Vile Rat is a real *dragon* in the sack.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.03.07 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Two Shots I don't see any reason goons would flock to attack you for that post.
But the answer to your question is simple: we don't like that guy because he's not our guy. The same way bloc/party voters in real life blindly support their side's candidate, people in EVE blindly support their side's candidate. And you know what that means? That means that the other guy's candidate is an idiot, a bigot, a pedophile, and drowns kittens in his spare time. Politics is politics.
That might well be so, but it doesn't explain the need to single out Trebor, and it doesn't explain why Trebor was identified as the most dangerous member of CSM5, which lies in the past. Most dangerous member for what reason? I'm sure Goons will vote for who they are asked to anyway, so why the drama?
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4C 4F 5645
Rogue Drone Systems
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Posted - 2011.03.07 03:58:00 -
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Trebor is one of the few real competitors for the csm chairman mao post that's why.
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.07 05:11:00 -
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Edited by: The Mittani on 07/03/2011 05:18:11
Originally by: Bomberlocks That might well be so, but it doesn't explain the need to single out Trebor, and it doesn't explain why Trebor was identified as the most dangerous member of CSM5, which lies in the past. Most dangerous member for what reason? I'm sure Goons will vote for who they are asked to anyway, so why the drama?
You're so angry that anyone would dismiss Trebor's ideas that not only did you ragepost about the topic elsewhere, you popped over here, too.
So:
Quote: (4:42:19 PM) courthouse: here's a remove local argument: http://eve-search.com/thread/753528/page/28#811
(4:44:48 PM) courthouse: remove cloak/mwd trick: http://eve-search.com/thread/1067244/page/3#77
(4:45:47 PM) courthouse: don't ban bots, remove CONCORD protection for them: http://eve-search.com/thread/1151626/page/5#144
(4:50:21 PM) courthouse: allow shrink wrapping outside of courier contracts (oh the scam opportunities this would generate, obviously doesn't understand the trade market system or scamming risks): http://eve-search.com/thread/1187896/page/1#11
(4:51:26 PM) courthouse: flip-flopped on the nerfing local chat bit: http://eve-search.com/thread/1183529/page/1#11
(4:52:31 PM) courthouse: arguing for the dominion sov system of smaller more defensible systems that cost more to maintain: http://eve-search.com/thread/1178912/page/12#347
(4:53:11 PM) courthouse: changing doomsday to a pinball style weapon :cripes: [url=]http://eve-search.com/thread/1179554/page/13#364http://eve-search.com/thread/1305694/page/1#19
(5:00:27 PM) courthouse: ~heh~ http://eve-search.com/thread/1310381/page/1#12
(5:02:51 PM) courthouse: more on the invisible local bull****: http://eve-search.com/thread/1298061/page/2#35
(5:05:29 PM) courthouse: god, it's almost like trebor's angling for a development job with them
(5:06:30 PM) courthouse: bribery for votes in csm6: http://treborofthecsm.blogspot.com/2011/02/billions-in-bribes-for-ballots.html
(5:11:13 PM) courthouse: remove the ability to converse in local: http://eve-search.com/thread/1348969/page/1#2
(5:18:54 PM) courthouse: front loading data packets to players on the assumption that they won't be decryptable later, there's no way this can be exploited: http://eve-search.com/thread/1370180/page/6#174
(6:02:37 PM) courthouse: hahah he made his own wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Woodhead
(6:45:47 PM) courthouse: idiotsiren :siren: http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?p=1493796#1493796
Odds are good that the empire bloc will unite around this guy and he'll end up with the Chair; no doubt I'd end up crying impotent tears of rage over the loss.
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Courthouse
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.07 05:31:00 -
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A vote for Trebor is literally a vote for someone who is worse at EVE than CCP Developers.
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Avalloc
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.07 06:07:00 -
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Those Trebor links are pretty scary to read. Titan pingpong weapon? Yikes! |
Marconus Orion
Global Criminal Countdown
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Posted - 2011.03.07 08:45:00 -
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I guess thread linking of ideas is in so I will leave this here. http://scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=39368&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=405
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: pc l0adletter
I want accessible pewpew, and I don't care if it's instanced tournaments/battlegrounds/whatever, but it's really, really hard to get a good fight in this game, and I think it's a much bigger problem than too many jumpbridges or naps/blues.
i'd probably murder someone for a 'combat simulator' or some other rp'd fluff that would allow me to get some spaceship pvp action with the click of a button, a la world of tanks. such a thing could also help teach empire bears the basics of how not to **** their pants in terror in a fight, and result in more pvp across the game
eve's combat is amazing when it happens, it's the 99% of the time engaging in horrible awful boring pve or suffering through intentional filler bull**** that's so irksome.
yeah. instant, instanced pvp in eve. that'd own almost as much as a userbase-moddable UI. le sigh
That's right folks. The Mittani wants Battlegrounds in EVE. I'm pretty sure this was covered a while back and the rage against instant PvP in EVE was fierce.
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.07 09:07:00 -
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i'm sure that'll make the elite pvp vote, which isn't going to vote for me anyway, furious
Sins of a Solar Spymaster TheMittani on Twitter |
Fix Lag
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Posted - 2011.03.07 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani i'm sure that'll make the elite pvp vote, which isn't going to vote for me anyway, furious
You have my vote, and I'm an elite pvper! :smug:
I'm so cloaky I don't even show up on killboards.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.07 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Marconus Orion I guess thread linking of ideas is in so I will leave this here. http://scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=39368&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=405
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: pc l0adletter
I want accessible pewpew, and I don't care if it's instanced tournaments/battlegrounds/whatever, but it's really, really hard to get a good fight in this game, and I think it's a much bigger problem than too many jumpbridges or naps/blues.
i'd probably murder someone for a 'combat simulator' or some other rp'd fluff that would allow me to get some spaceship pvp action with the click of a button, a la world of tanks. such a thing could also help teach empire bears the basics of how not to **** their pants in terror in a fight, and result in more pvp across the game
eve's combat is amazing when it happens, it's the 99% of the time engaging in horrible awful boring pve or suffering through intentional filler bull**** that's so irksome.
yeah. instant, instanced pvp in eve. that'd own almost as much as a userbase-moddable UI. le sigh
That's right folks. The Mittani wants Battlegrounds in EVE. I'm pretty sure this was covered a while back and the rage against instant PvP in EVE was fierce.
Combat simulator and userbase moddable UI? Damn for that I can almost forgive he is a lawyer IRL and vote for him.
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swiftstick
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Posted - 2011.03.07 14:08:00 -
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that's funny a goon with a heart yea right hes the CEO of one of the main groups targeting noobs in the game promising null sec rats and good fun all just to rob you lulz and take all your items you want to have moved down .... i don't support this type of player for our best interest and if i was you i wouldn't ether beside most of his support you see r his own alliance
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holding pattern58
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Posted - 2011.03.07 14:11:00 -
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You bring some interesting ideas, however my votes are instead going to someone else.
(Not Trebor, he's just as toxic to my style of play as you are)
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.07 15:34:00 -
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Not one of the links was a proposal by Trebor. Interestingly enough Trebor allows *the players* to make the proposals and then he works to get ccp to implement *the players* proposals.
That whole assembly hall forum you know. Has the Mittani ever even visited it?
ItĘs very interesting that the only csm member that ever tried to measure how much *players* want certain proposals is singled out for ridicule by The Mittani. Of course, The MittaniĘs campaign depends on players being idiots so anyone who actually promotes what players want must also be an idiot.
-Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |
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