Originally by: Helen Highwater, CSM5

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People have an unrealistic idea of what the CSM actually does. It's how dribbling ******s got elected because they had platforms like 'I will fix low-sec' or 'I will make CCP fix the lag'. The CSM doesn't generally present solutions to CCP because that historically isn't very effective so proposals like 'Improve the tracking of blasters' are dead in the water. They get raised anyway and then CCP buries them because they are more interested in having the problems highlighted rather than solutions put forwards.

Most of what goes on in public with the CSM is total bull****. The important stuff is what happens at the summits and in the internal forums. That's when CCP present their solutions and ask for the CSM to feedback on them and that's when the theorycrafting and superior knowledge of this horrible game come into play. In the year and a half since I've been a CSM alternate, 95% of my work has been shooting down other people's utterly dreadful ideas rather than actually raising new ones. Nobody cares about your ideas, least of all CCP, the best you can do is to try and slow the tide of slack-jawed idiocy coming from both sides of the table.

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Originally by: mostlyharmlesss

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I will go out of my way, and make a serious goon post.

Please, read what he is saying and don't focus on the Alliance/Corp. I know, even the most hated enemies agree on most of the points that he is writing, so please, vote with your brain, and not because of a "Free tengu"

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Originally by: Roc Wieler

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As a CSM 6 candidate, I can only speak for myself.

I've promised nothing. I've worked with CCP before. I know what types of obstacles may exist to be overcome.

My platform has been of integrity, a commitment to maintain open communication between CCP, CSM and players, and make sure that at the very least, the concerns of New Eden are heard.

I'm not lying to you.

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Originally by: Roc Wieler

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As a CSM 6 candidate, I can only speak for myself.

I've promised nothing. I've worked with CCP before. I know what types of obstacles may exist to be overcome.

My platform has been of integrity, a commitment to maintain open communication between CCP, CSM and players, and make sure that at the very least, the concerns of New Eden are heard.

I'm not lying to you.

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Originally by: Roc Wieler

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As a CSM 6 candidate, I can only speak for myself.

I've promised nothing. I've worked with CCP before. I know what types of obstacles may exist to be overcome.

My platform has been of integrity, a commitment to maintain open communication between CCP, CSM and players, and make sure that at the very least, the concerns of New Eden are heard.

I'm not lying to you.

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Originally by: Roc Wieler's blog

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I asked my own alliance, UshraÆKhan, to explain it to me. We spoke about logistical advantages for fleet activity, how easy JBN make it to trap an enemy fleet, or escape from one. Low upkeep costs, they donÆt appear on the overview, etc, etc. There are a lot of reasons why nullsec alliances love jump bridges, thatÆs for sure.

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Originally by: Roc Wieler

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I'm not lying to you.

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Originally by: Midi Messiah

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Originally by: Roc Wieler

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As a CSM 6 candidate, I can only speak for myself.

I've promised nothing. I've worked with CCP before. I know what types of obstacles may exist to be overcome.

My platform has been of integrity, a commitment to maintain open communication between CCP, CSM and players, and make sure that at the very least, the concerns of New Eden are heard.

I'm not lying to you.

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Originally by: Roc Wieler's blog

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I asked my own alliance, UshraÆKhan, to explain it to me. We spoke about logistical advantages for fleet activity, how easy JBN make it to trap an enemy fleet, or escape from one. Low upkeep costs, they donÆt appear on the overview, etc, etc. There are a lot of reasons why nullsec alliances love jump bridges, thatÆs for sure.

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Liar or just dumb?

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Originally by: Midi Messiah

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Originally by: Roc Wieler

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As a CSM 6 candidate, I can only speak for myself.

I've promised nothing. I've worked with CCP before. I know what types of obstacles may exist to be overcome.

My platform has been of integrity, a commitment to maintain open communication between CCP, CSM and players, and make sure that at the very least, the concerns of New Eden are heard.

I'm not lying to you.

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Originally by: Roc Wieler's blog

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I asked my own alliance, UshraÆKhan, to explain it to me. We spoke about logistical advantages for fleet activity, how easy JBN make it to trap an enemy fleet, or escape from one. Low upkeep costs, they donÆt appear on the overview, etc, etc. There are a lot of reasons why nullsec alliances love jump bridges, thatÆs for sure.

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Liar or just dumb?

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Originally by: Fix Lag

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Voter with 3 accounts checking in vOv

P.S. call out some idiot who's running on a BS platform and publicly humiliate him, please. kthanx.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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What I Can Offer You:

The raw, ugly truth. No pretty illusions. No false promises.

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Originally by: Facepalm

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You have my sword.

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Originally by: Forever A Clone

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The idea that anyone in eve (bar goons) would trust someone who lauds himself as a liar in every aspect of his life is laughable.

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Originally by: Forever A Clone

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The idea that anyone in eve (bar goons) would trust someone who lauds himself as a liar in every aspect of his life is laughable.

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Originally by: Goose99

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In EVE, PVE can happen anywhere, anytime. Whenever you undock, you subject yourself to involuntary PVE.

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Originally by: Roc Wieler

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As a CSM 6 candidate, I can only speak for myself.

I've promised nothing. I've worked with CCP before. I know what types of obstacles may exist to be overcome.

My platform has been of integrity, a commitment to maintain open communication between CCP, CSM and players, and make sure that at the very least, the concerns of New Eden are heard.

I'm not lying to you.

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Originally by: Imigo Montoya

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While there is one and a half years between the posts, I was quite amused at seeing a distinct switch in your stance on Sun Tzu and similar (theory of war) on Ten Ton Hammer.

In this post (about the Delve war) you say "Sun Tzu wasn't writing about a drug-addled Icelander's idea of an internet spaceship game", then later in this post (about the Cluster**** invasion of Fountain) you essentially embody the principles of Sun Tzu's philosophies.

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Originally by: Forever A Clone

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The idea that anyone in eve (bar goons) would trust someone who lauds himself as a liar in every aspect of his life is laughable.

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Originally by: Profiteering

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Edited by: Profiteering on 26/02/2011 05:14:51
Edited by: Profiteering on 26/02/2011 05:14:33
Funny how many people dont realise that anyone can be lying, even this guy. Usually someone who says he isnt lying may well be lying to just get votes his way. Remember a lawyer is not a leader.

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Originally by: Profiteering

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Edited by: Profiteering on 26/02/2011 05:14:51
Edited by: Profiteering on 26/02/2011 05:14:33
Funny how many people dont realise that anyone can be lying, even this guy. Usually someone who says he isnt lying may well be lying to just get votes his way. Remember a lawyer is not a leader.

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Originally by: Chinwe Rhei

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I don't think a feedback group should present an unified front at all.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Chinwe Rhei

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I don't think a feedback group should present an unified front at all.

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Then you must be very pleased by all that the CSMs have accomplished thus far.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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removing jump bridges would be ******ed, but ccp is likely to make a move on the bridge issue before the csm election actually goes through, so i don't think it'll have any practical relevance for CSM6. which is a shame, since the last time they tried to make a major balance fix in nullsec they created the hilariously profitable but unbalanced and stupid tech bottleneck. welp!

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Originally by: Marconus Orion

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You never had any issues about the tech bottleneck when you lived up north where they were at. Now that you are down south you are expressing that the situation is wrong.

Why the change of heart?

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Originally by: Two Shots

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The man can snap his fingers and say "Hey guys, this thing over here sounds like it might be fun; go do it if you feel like it," and thereby consistently summon up a fleet of a thousand people eager to go die horribly. Show me another leader who can do that without a bunch of threats, vapid CALL TO ARMS!!!!! posts, and general freaking out about Internet space ships. For that matter, show me a leader who can do it with those things.

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Originally by: Marconus Orion

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Originally by: The Mittani

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removing jump bridges would be ******ed, but ccp is likely to make a move on the bridge issue before the csm election actually goes through, so i don't think it'll have any practical relevance for CSM6. which is a shame, since the last time they tried to make a major balance fix in nullsec they created the hilariously profitable but unbalanced and stupid tech bottleneck. welp!

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You never had any issues about the tech bottleneck when you lived up north where they were at. Now that you are down south you are expressing that the situation is wrong.

Why the change of heart?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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The Foreverwar might be cooling off, but the war against drooling hisec missionrunners, lowsec k/d pirates, and 'elite pvp' nullsec nonsovholders is only beginning; it is CSM time, and the current crop of idiots is looking to ruin everything we know about sovereign space despite having never lived there themselves.We are now uniting with our allies (and even our nominal foes) to ensure that the Nullsec Bloc seizes control over the CSM, Jump Bridges aren't removed from the game, and that CCP is forced to get a clue.

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Originally by: The Mittens

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In this election, there will be no 'democracy'. In the past, Goonswarm has held primaries and divided its electorate among competing candidates. This year, you have two candidates: Vile Rat and myself. Legion of Death will be putting forth Death, Krutoj, or both for the DRF bloc. The NC can't put up Vuk (he's moving to Slovenia and won't have time) but will presumably be able to put up Elvenlord or someone else who is 'sound'. TEST will be putting forward a candidate on their own, assuming the ravages of unchecked voting and freedom do not ruin their voting bloc. If IT still existed in any appreciable form, I'd have contacted them about having one of their guys stand; we're hoping that Awagon will put forth someone, either Herculetz or Manny.

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Originally by: The Mittens

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]It has been a year, because CCP increased the terms; we are now on the verge of another election cycle. In this past year, CCP claims they have begun to 'listen' to the CSM, and what a time to listen. Most major nullsec alliances gave up on the CSM ages ago, and this year-long term is full of nobodies and carebears. With the exception of Vuk Lau, I don't think any of these people have a single system of sovereignty.Yet this is the pack of drooling idiots who CCP is now 'seriously listening to' about what should be done to change our gameplay. These are the people - who have never dealt with a jump bridge in their life - discussing how removing jump bridges and trying to make nullsec logistics 'less fun' will simultaneously make the game more fun and fix lag at the same time. We can no longer ignore the CSM or the threat which its unchecked idiocy presents to every single player who lives in conquerable space.We cannot sit idly by and allow these wretched lowsec pirates and mission-hub *****s to try to pollute the minds of the developers - devs who, in case you have somehow forgotten, barely play this game and certainly don't do so in 0.0.

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Originally by: James Tiberius Kirk

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Edited by: James Tiberius Kirk on 26/02/2011 08:32:06
Are you willing to break NDA?

If not, how will you even be different from any other CSM member?

Your general attitude towards CSM is commendable, but do you even believe it yourself that you are able to deliver?

Are you willing to report your own members to stop botting if it comes to that?

Your alliance openly violates EULA, are you going to try and protect them when it is apparent that the discussion is going against your alliance agenda?

Are you planning to say anything that isn't a lie?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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TheyÆre lying to you.

All the promises from the CSM candidates, all the æissuesÆ and æfeaturesÆ theyÆre going to address - itÆs all a pack of lies.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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The CSM is a sounding board. CCP comes to the CSM and lays out their ideas about whatever theyÆre thinking up, and itÆs up to the the CSM to provide feedback while gagged under a nondisclosure agreement.
<snip>
I know this because my directors have been on the CSM since its inception, and weÆve watched with growing frustration as the CSM showed promise, then failed to accomplish anything relevant.

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Originally by: Chribba

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I'm an Eve Online "celebrity" who thinks I should post in every thread even if it's a contentless one word post.

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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Originally by: Chribba

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I'm an Eve Online "celebrity" who thinks I should post in every thread even if it's a contentless one word post.

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Originally by: Chribba

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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Originally by: Chribba

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I'm an Eve Online "celebrity" who thinks I should post in every thread even if it's a contentless one word post.

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Word!

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Originally by: Profiteering

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Edited by: Profiteering on 26/02/2011 14:36:38
Mittani, Im just saying we dont know if your lying or not at all period. You may have things to lie about you that you didnt show in your post. The only reason your probably going to be a good leader is all those other goonswarm candidates will be elected at the most....You shouldnt call people deluded, you should convince them instead of calling them names, Good way to get another voter moron.

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Originally by: Marconus Orion

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Originally by: The Mittani

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removing jump bridges would be ******ed, but ccp is likely to make a move on the bridge issue before the csm election actually goes through, so i don't think it'll have any practical relevance for CSM6. which is a shame, since the last time they tried to make a major balance fix in nullsec they created the hilariously profitable but unbalanced and stupid tech bottleneck. welp!

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You never had any issues about the tech bottleneck when you lived up north where they were at. Now that you are down south you are expressing that the situation is wrong.

Why the change of heart?

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Originally by: James Tiberius Kirk

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Edited by: James Tiberius Kirk on 26/02/2011 08:32:06
Are you willing to break NDA?

If not, how will you even be different from any other CSM member?

Your general attitude towards CSM is commendable, but do you even believe it yourself that you are able to deliver?

Are you willing to report your own members to stop botting if it comes to that?

Your alliance openly violates EULA, are you going to try and protect them when it is apparent that the discussion is going against your alliance agenda?

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Originally by: RAW23

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So, don't expect that the Mittani will act in what you think are your interests if you vote for him. Expect, rather, to be told what is in your interest, whether you like it or not.

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Originally by: Two Shots

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Everyone has an agenda. Most people try to hide it, or flower it up with nice words about the importance of the Every Man. If your problem with The Mittani is that he has an agenda, then don't vote for himùor for anyone else in the CSM race. If your problem with The Mittani is that he admits to having an agenda, then help yourself to a sobering dose of reality: everyone has an agenda The Mittani loves you, and has your best interests at heart.

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Originally by: RAW23

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Edited by: RAW23 on 26/02/2011 19:00:33

Originally by: Two Shots

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Everyone has an agenda. Most people try to hide it, or flower it up with nice words about the importance of the Every Man. If your problem with The Mittani is that he has an agenda, then don't vote for himùor for anyone else in the CSM race. If your problem with The Mittani is that he admits to having an agenda, then help yourself to a sobering dose of reality: everyone has an agenda The Mittani loves you, and has your best interests at heart.

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The agenda outlined here is simply to forge the CSM into an effective and unified advocacy group. What is not outlined is exactly what it will advocate for once it is an effective group. Creating something powerful simply for the sake of having something powerful with an ends-blind attitude is the kind of political position that makes me want to run a mile. Creating something powerful with specific objectives in mind is something I could get behind, on the other hand. Now, The Mittani has referred readers to his Ten Ton Hammer articles if they want to know his views, and by implication, the kinds of positions he would likely use the weapon he plans to forge in support of. But this is just hiding these views behind several hundred pages of text. Why not just summarise them here? What, exactly, is the agenda?

Edit - Cute puppy btw.

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Originally by: RAW23

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The agenda outlined here is simply to forge the CSM into an effective and unified advocacy group. What is not outlined is exactly what it will advocate for once it is an effective group. Creating something powerful simply for the sake of having something powerful with an ends-blind attitude is the kind of political position that makes me want to run a mile. Creating something powerful with specific objectives in mind is something I could get behind, on the other hand. Now, The Mittani has referred readers to his Ten Ton Hammer articles if they want to know his views, and by implication, the kinds of positions he would likely use the weapon he plans to forge in support of. But this is just hiding these views behind several hundred pages of text. Why not just summarise them here? What, exactly, is the agenda?

Edit - Cute puppy btw.

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Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou

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On a more serious note, This CSM campaign is more watertight than the others. The Mittani has been high up in Goonswarm for years and knows alot about running sections, and now all, of the alliance. He also has real world experience of an intellectually demanding job that requires knowing : How to Lie, How to talk, How to convince people his points by using evidence. He also has an adorable puppy, a house he bought WITH CASH, has retired young and so can devote much neckbeard time to Internet Spaceships, looks like 'Dane Cook with down's syndrome', and flies A SABRE. This man is clearly the man for you for the CSM chair.

He also LARPs and stuff

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Originally by: Two Shots

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Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou

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On a more serious note, This CSM campaign is more watertight than the others. The Mittani has been high up in Goonswarm for years and knows alot about running sections, and now all, of the alliance. He also has real world experience of an intellectually demanding job that requires knowing : How to Lie, How to talk, How to convince people his points by using evidence. He also has an adorable puppy, a house he bought WITH CASH, has retired young and so can devote much neckbeard time to Internet Spaceships, looks like 'Dane Cook with down's syndrome', and flies A SABRE. This man is clearly the man for you for the CSM chair.

He also LARPs and stuff

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He also makes good posts.

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Originally by: Boogaloo

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Wow, you must think the eve playerbase is thick as pigs**t not to notice that the NC have launched a massive campaign to take control of the CSM to influence GM decisions to meet your alliance's priorities.

Just a coincidence that Mittens happens to run at the same time as Goonswarm join the NC? How exactly are the majority of Eve players helped by having one single alliance controlling all of the CSM?

Depressing to see metagaming get this obvious. I'm sure you'll take the more gullible players along with you, as you have a significant player following, and you deserve some of that following. Sad to see Mittens cashing in on his role as a genuinely neutral commentator outside the establishment just to promote his alliance.

Shame on you Mittani.

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Originally by: Scatim Helicon

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Originally by: Boogaloo

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Wow, you must think the eve playerbase is thick as pigs**t not to notice that the NC have launched a massive campaign to take control of the CSM to influence GM decisions to meet your alliance's priorities.

Just a coincidence that Mittens happens to run at the same time as Goonswarm join the NC? How exactly are the majority of Eve players helped by having one single alliance controlling all of the CSM?

Depressing to see metagaming get this obvious. I'm sure you'll take the more gullible players along with you, as you have a significant player following, and you deserve some of that following. Sad to see Mittens cashing in on his role as a genuinely neutral commentator outside the establishment just to promote his alliance.

Shame on you Mittani.

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Boogaloo more like BLOOBLOOBLOO

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Originally by: Boogaloo

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Wow, you must think the eve playerbase is thick as pigs**t not to notice that the NC have launched a massive campaign to take control of the CSM to influence GM decisions to meet your alliance's priorities.

Just a coincidence that Mittens happens to run at the same time as Goonswarm join the NC? How exactly are the majority of Eve players helped by having one single alliance controlling all of the CSM?

Depressing to see metagaming get this obvious. I'm sure you'll take the more gullible players along with you, as you have a significant player following, and you deserve some of that following. Sad to see Mittens cashing in on his role as a genuinely neutral commentator outside the establishment just to promote his alliance.

Shame on you Mittani.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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you might actually see a united csm try to get some **** done

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Originally by: The Mittani

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i'm anti-bot, yet i understand that the reason bots exist isn't so much rmt (because ccp cracks down on rmt very, very hard) but bad pve which amounts to little more than watching three grey bars turn red. in world of warcraft people bot because they want to rmt, but people actually play the pve because it's fun, not eye-stabbingly boring. ccp presently doesn't enforce anti-botting for **** (though they do anti-rmt) mainly because they realize their pve is godawful. i'd like to see the pve experience made much more fun, so people would actually play (and that thus i could gank an honest ratting raven, rather than have it auto-log when i enter local)

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Originally by: Marconus Orion

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The current CSM seemed pretty damn united about the removal/nerf of jump bridges. Which shortly after was when you went into a rage and decided that it was time for all the seats to be taken over by sov holding power block members. I posted the quote above you sent out. Do you no longer stand by what you said?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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in the csm fight you can only vote /for/ a candidate, not against one (since it's not a run-off). it's a fair assessment that krutoj will take the DRF/Rus vote, Seleene will get awagon + nonaligned nullsec, Vile Rat and myself will get Cluster****/GSF votes, and Elise or Prom will get PL + Tri/ncdot/ev0ke/generic nonsov elite pvp. killer2 is the official NC candidate. meissa or trebor will get the hisec bears, possibly roc if his campaign takes off.

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Originally by: iP0D

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That's a clever way of trying to establish a perception of a range of candidate names as being "evil block vote dudes so everybody don't vote for them pick a wannabee independant while mittens is safe with his effective block already in place"

<snip>

There's no need even for posing other niche Goon candidates to overshadow "independant" candidates on a per topic or "catch the mindset" basis even

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Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

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Mittani's emotional instability

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Originally by: Kalrand

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The reason you're seeing so many goon candidates this year, and never before is that it was customary that there was an internal primary. Mittani canceled that, and so anyone who was seriously thinking about running went "well, **** THAT GUY" and is going at it alone.

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Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

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so if you think you can change it by controlling all the seats then you truly are kalmad

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Originally by: Kalrand

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Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

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so if you think you can change it by controlling all the seats then you truly are kalmad

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I think you missed my point if you think I'm part of any effort to control anything.

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Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

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Originally by: Kalrand

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Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

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so if you think you can change it by controlling all the seats then you truly are kalmad

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I think you missed my point if you think I'm part of any effort to control anything.

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Obviously I wasnt talking about you

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Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

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Mittani knows (even though this is common sense) that people will vote for the leader anyway so no one really cares who is running as long as they have alot of sheeps to follow.

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Originally by: Marconus Orion

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Originally by: The Mittani

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The Foreverwar might be cooling off, but the war against drooling hisec missionrunners, lowsec k/d pirates, and 'elite pvp' nullsec nonsovholders is only beginning; it is CSM time, and the current crop of idiots is looking to ruin everything we know about sovereign space despite having never lived there themselves.We are now uniting with our allies (and even our nominal foes) to ensure that the Nullsec Bloc seizes control over the CSM, Jump Bridges aren't removed from the game, and that CCP is forced to get a clue.

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Did you write this?

Originally by: The Mittens

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In this election, there will be no 'democracy'. In the past, Goonswarm has held primaries and divided its electorate among competing candidates. This year, you have two candidates: Vile Rat and myself. Legion of Death will be putting forth Death, Krutoj, or both for the DRF bloc. The NC can't put up Vuk (he's moving to Slovenia and won't have time) but will presumably be able to put up Elvenlord or someone else who is 'sound'. TEST will be putting forward a candidate on their own, assuming the ravages of unchecked voting and freedom do not ruin their voting bloc. If IT still existed in any appreciable form, I'd have contacted them about having one of their guys stand; we're hoping that Awagon will put forth someone, either Herculetz or Manny.

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So you are of the belief that all the seats of the CSM should be held by those that belong to 0.0 power block sov holders only? No one from high sec, no one from low sec and no non-sov holding entities who live out in 0.0?

Originally by: The Mittens

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]It has been a year, because CCP increased the terms; we are now on the verge of another election cycle. In this past year, CCP claims they have begun to 'listen' to the CSM, and what a time to listen. Most major nullsec alliances gave up on the CSM ages ago, and this year-long term is full of nobodies and carebears. With the exception of Vuk Lau, I don't think any of these people have a single system of sovereignty.Yet this is the pack of drooling idiots who CCP is now 'seriously listening to' about what should be done to change our gameplay. These are the people - who have never dealt with a jump bridge in their life - discussing how removing jump bridges and trying to make nullsec logistics 'less fun' will simultaneously make the game more fun and fix lag at the same time. We can no longer ignore the CSM or the threat which its unchecked idiocy presents to every single player who lives in conquerable space.We cannot sit idly by and allow these wretched lowsec pirates and mission-hub *****s to try to pollute the minds of the developers - devs who, in case you have somehow forgotten, barely play this game and certainly don't do so in 0.0.

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The idea of CCP removing jump bridges or nerfing them does not agree with you?

Also, you seem mad.

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Originally by: Pisander

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Finally I'd like to state that it is quite hypocritical to call anyone a hypocrite and liar when you are head of an alliance that allows lying and scamming. By your very existence as head of Goonswarm you too are a hypocrite and a liar because you allow it to be done by your members. "Recruitment scam by Goons" It's all over the forums. As leader it goes to your character as well. So don't call others hypocrites and liars. the buck stops at the top buddy.

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Originally by: Vile rat's Bio

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NO YOUR ****TY EMPIRE CORP THAT IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE REST (IF ONLY YOU HAD A CHANCE) CAN'T JOIN OUR ALLIANCE.


ALSO YES, YOU WERE SCAMMED. NO YOU DIDNT PAY MONEY TO GET INTO OUR ALLIANCE YOU GAVE MONEY TO SOME DUDE WHO SAID HE WAS A DIRECTOR. YES WE ARE LAUGHING.


(10:01:37 AM) own-own-teredrum: vile your fail and your alliance will fall again, and we will be there for it bff

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Originally by: Two Shots

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Originally by: Pisander

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Finally I'd like to state that it is quite hypocritical to call anyone a hypocrite and liar when you are head of an alliance that allows lying and scamming. By your very existence as head of Goonswarm you too are a hypocrite and a liar because you allow it to be done by your members. "Recruitment scam by Goons" It's all over the forums. As leader it goes to your character as well. So don't call others hypocrites and liars. the buck stops at the top buddy.

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If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to go to the forums before being scammed, then perhaps they might have been better prepared. If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to go to eve-search or google before being scammed, then perhaps they might have been better prepared. If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to do any kind of research about their prospective new alliance/corporation, then perhaps they might have been better prepared. If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to read our alliance diplomat's in-game description, then perhaps they might have been better prepared. If only those people who decide it's a good idea to go to the forums and whine about being recruitment scammed had thought to visit to our website, then perhaps they might have been better prepared.

EVE Search - Goonswarm Recruitment
EVE Search - Goonwaffe Recruitment
EVE Online - Goonswarm Federation
EVE Online - Vile Rat
Google - Goonswarm Recruitment
Google - Goonwaffe Recruitment
Goonfleet Wiki - Joining Goonswarm

All of the above links are publicly viewable by anyone who looks.

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Originally by: Pisander

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Correct. My point was not that the scams aren't easily findable. And quite frankly I don't have a problem with it. People who get scammed deserve it. My point is your leader is calling CSM candidates liars and hypocrites which is hypocritical on his part because he heads an alliance that lies. Despite whether or not it is allowed or ones view on it, favorable on my part. It's a game. If someone is going to lie and scam and it's within the game EULA, which it is, it is still lying. And to head an organization that allows it (lying to scam) is hypocritical. Therefore there is no ground to stand on calling others liars and hypocrites. Therefore, for me , it null and voids any legitimacy to this campaign. That's what I'm saying Two.

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Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou

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Edited by: ImmaSplodeYou on 27/02/2011 17:38:04
The alliance itself is actually very open about not tolerating scamming by its directors, recruiters or ceos. You can't say the entire alliance are scammers because a few members decide to take some idiots for a ride to get carrier killmails and a few mil ISK. That's like saying I'm a murderer because someone was murdered by someone from my town

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Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou

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Edited by: ImmaSplodeYou on 27/02/2011 17:38:04
The alliance itself is actually very open about not tolerating scamming by its directors, recruiters or ceos. You can't say the entire alliance are scammers because a few members decide to take some idiots for a ride to get carrier killmails and a few mil ISK. That's like saying I'm a murderer because someone was murdered by someone from my town

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Originally by: iP0D

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Honest question though. It's been clear how CCP react badly to the hurf blurf fist on the table approach in previous CSM's, your entire presentation seems to come down to that. I could be wrong obviously, it could just be the :lolelections: part o it, I hope so. Unless you'd be banking on social engineering lines it just never gives any results for EVE as a whole, only for own interests and you don't strike me as just going out there to preserve your state of the union.

So, how exactly are you going to approach CCP when it is time to sit down at the table, where there is a very good part of CCP who is willing to listen if the work is done .. but also a very bad part of CCP which just wants to do new shiny stuff and gets butthurt when a CSM does not agree with something being :awesome:. to the point of literally turning their backs on the CSM, isolating them, slapping NDA on things while at the same time taking everything to the media. I am sure you understand the challenge, but do you have the methods for it. I'm not asking for some overview of background But for how you are really going to approach matters.

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Originally by: Pisander

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I'm going to call this campaign smoke being blown up the ass despite you saying it's not. And here's why.
CCP created the CSM. The CSM serves CCP not the other way around. If you think you are going to go in there and start swinging proverbial fists and bring CCP to the table to listen to "us" and what "we" want then you're crazy. CCP brought the CSM in to this world it can take it out. And your attitude because you're some big powerful guy in a big alliance doesn't mean **** and could possibly cause CCP to just simply get rid of the CSM. I kind of get the feeling you're about to walk in to the mentally handicap room at a school and start swinging. That ain't gonna last too long, ya know? (No offense CCP just making a point).

Sure there's things that suck but at the end of the day it's a game we play and CCP owns. It's their game.
I also believe that you realize that the CSM V has done some hard work and got a foot in the door to where CCP is more inclined to listen to the CSM bringing forth player concerns and issues and take more of what they say to heart. And because of the work by the CSM V you see an opportunity to go in their and ravage the little bit of soft underbelly that they (CSM V) got CCP to show, finally.

Finally I'd like to state that it is quite hypocritical to call anyone a hypocrite and liar when you are head of an alliance that allows lying and scamming. By your very existence as head of Goonswarm you too are a hypocrite and a liar because you allow it to be done by your members. "Recruitment scam by Goons" It's all over the forums. As leader it goes to your character as well. So don't call others hypocrites and liars. the buck stops at the top buddy.

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Originally by: 4C 4F 5645

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Your posturing about what you're going to do about sovereignty to your own voting block is no different then the people who say they're going to fix faction warfare or blasters or whatever.

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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I, for one, think that CCP should remove jump bridges and remove local (or even delay it).

This will make 0.0 require effort to live there and everyone and their brother will have fun killing bots who don't know who is in system out there.

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Originally by: Marconus Orion

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Edited by: Marconus Orion on 28/02/2011 04:36:17

Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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I, for one, think that CCP should remove jump bridges and remove local (or even delay it).

This will make 0.0 require effort to live there and everyone and their brother will have fun killing bots who don't know who is in system out there.

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FYP

It is amusing to see you pull the "This will cause more bots!" card if local and jump bridges are removed.

EDIT: You also just proved the point of how lazy people would move out of 0.0 if logistic, power projection and the instant Intel from local were nerfed. It would be too hard for you and you are unwilling to adapt.

But this all does come down to opinion on what 0.0 should be. Everyone thinks their version is the right one. The more we debate, the more everyone becomes entrenched into their opinion and the sounds of the opposing become more and more quiet in your mind.

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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I wasn't being sarcastic.

Please. Nerf. Jump. Bridges.

Local, too. Why? It'll give me a reason to finally quit this game as I laugh at those who want to live in the wasteland of 0.0

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Originally by: Lorna Sicling

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Although I have some reservations about the style of campaign that you're running (whether it is you directly or friends/associates on your behalf or at your request or neither), you are quite true that improved communication between the CSM itself, and also CSM to CCP is vital.

Have you any plans for involving the rank and file player base more in things - crowd sourcing more frequently etc?

The British government has a website where anybody can raise a petition and others can vote on it - I know that there's already mechanisms to do similar, but do/would you support this - would you expand this idea, or have you other ideas?

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Originally by: Camios

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Calling a game designer from CCP "an idiot" is pretty stupid.

CCP can listen to you or not, as they want. If you think that you will be able to force them to do what you think, you're just stupid, CCP will just silence you because they can.
There is no battle to fight against CCP, and if there were one you can't win it.

Putting it in another way: CSM5 achieved so much because they worked a lot to get trusted by CCP, and cooperate with them. You are just promising to screw it up, what a genius.

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Originally by: Karadion

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Originally by: Camios

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Calling a game designer from CCP "an idiot" is pretty stupid.

CCP can listen to you or not, as they want. If you think that you will be able to force them to do what you think, you're just stupid, CCP will just silence you because they can.
There is no battle to fight against CCP, and if there were one you can't win it.

Putting it in another way: CSM5 achieved so much because they worked a lot to get trusted by CCP, and cooperate with them. You are just promising to screw it up, what a genius.

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I searched for the quote "an idiot" and failed to find any. Did you just make that up by yourself?

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Originally by: Camios

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Originally by: Karadion

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Originally by: Camios

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Calling a game designer from CCP "an idiot" is pretty stupid.

CCP can listen to you or not, as they want. If you think that you will be able to force them to do what you think, you're just stupid, CCP will just silence you because they can.
There is no battle to fight against CCP, and if there were one you can't win it.

Putting it in another way: CSM5 achieved so much because they worked a lot to get trusted by CCP, and cooperate with them. You are just promising to screw it up, what a genius.

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I searched for the quote "an idiot" and failed to find any. Did you just make that up by yourself?

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Here, and the linked article is full of venom and madness. You can't really think CCP is going to work with one that does so much against them.

CSM will never have control over CCP, period. Mittani wants to go to Iceland to fight CCP, that's just a silly thing to do. You hate too much, dude.

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Originally by: Two Shots

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How can you accuse Mittens of being hateful?
Have you not seen his puppy?

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Originally by: Annette Jars

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The Mittani thinks he's good at managing people.

But let's face it. Running Goons isn't about leadership but more about being a Kindergarden Nanny.

Throwing a hissyfit and tantrum wont work with Devs and reading his garbage I see that's the only tactic he will be using.
Voting for a Goon, any Goon is something only the mentally challenged will do.

Ergo other Goons.

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Originally by: Camios

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Here, and the linked article is full of venom and madness. You can't really think CCP is going to work with one that does so much against them.

CSM will never have control over CCP, period. Mittani wants to go to Iceland to fight CCP, that's just a silly thing to do. You hate too much, dude.

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Originally by: Annette Jars

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The Mittani thinks he's good at managing people.

But let's face it. Running Goons isn't about leadership but more about being a Kindergarden Nanny.

Throwing a hissyfit and tantrum wont work with Devs and reading his garbage I see that's the only tactic he will be using.
Voting for a Goon, any Goon is something only the mentally challenged will do.

Ergo other Goons.

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Originally by: Annette Jars

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I have seen many drives of capsuleers.
Their daily struggle for some form of respect.

Respect from the Corporation they are part of.
Respect from the Alliance they are part of.
Respect from the Corporation or Empire they work for.

Yet the respect they are longing for isn't more than a mere smokescreen.

I for one hold no allegiance towards an Empire, corporation or socidty.
My sole concept is comprissed around the never ending value of Isk.

You pilots, corporations and Alliances have the Isk I crave.
Since you will not be parting with that Isk voluntarely I will come and get me what is mine.
I will come to your systems, I will disrupt your normal routine of making money.
I will be the annoying bug in your pelt which you can't get rid of, no matter how hard you try to scratch.

The only way to get me to move will be a medicine called ISK. The more I get the more you might get a say in where I head next.

Don't try to reason with me. I don't care for reason.
Don't try to expect mercy. Mercy is for the weak.
Don't try to sway me into your cause. We don't share a cause.

So be prepared you ancient behemoths. Extortion Incorporated will be dropping bombs near you soon.
And if you really make me mad I might get some friends to drop by.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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i run one of the meanest and most politically effective powerblocs in the game

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Originally by: Captain'o'Captain

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I hardly think a drake army fleet qualifies for "powerbloc" considering all it had to prove itself was an already failing alliance, which was blobed out every single time.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Captain'o'Captain

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I hardly think a drake army fleet qualifies for "powerbloc" considering all it had to prove itself was an already failing alliance, which was blobed out every single time.

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1/10, you didn't even get the fleet doctrine right

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Originally by: Captain'o'Captain

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Captain'o'Captain

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I hardly think a drake army fleet qualifies for "powerbloc" considering all it had to prove itself was an already failing alliance, which was blobed out every single time.

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1/10, you didn't even get the fleet doctrine right

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umm maybe not and I rly CBA to go through the KB's right now, however the second part is true and you can pretty much ask any IT member, the alliance was long dead before your coalition even invaded, and some1 even told me that the only reason they fought you for the 3 odd months was to get their supers in delve build, after that happend x13 and finfleet and dice packed their bags and left. I'm sure a "spy master" like yourself would know that...

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Originally by: The Mittani

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krutoj will take the DRF/Rus vote, Seleene will get awagon + nonaligned nullsec, Vile Rat and myself will get Cluster****/GSF votes, and Elise or Prom will get PL + Tri/ncdot/ev0ke/generic nonsov elite pvp. killer2 is the official NC candidate. meissa or trebor will get the hisec bears, possibly roc if his campaign takes off.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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i run one of the meanest and most politically effective powerblocs in the game, but you wouldn't know that because you probably have no clue what it's like to be outside of the roleplaying forums:

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Originally by: The Mittani

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the hilarious bit is that, for all your words about how smart and cunning and ~dangerous~ you are, you're not on a single killmail anywhere.

anyway, as far as management goes, the entire cluster**** is well aware of my capabilities, as is everyone who used to be in IT.

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I believe that it is time to transform the CSM by electing a hardline player representative that will forge the CSM into a strong, united body that can fight for the playerbase and shield it from idiocy.

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Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey

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This thread and Mittani's emotional instability

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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It was all over the news and forums that Maelstroms were the flavor of the month. How did you miss that?

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Originally by: Captain'o'Captain

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Admitted The Mittani didn't run that one, but he is a goon after all, cut from the same wood as all the other goons.

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Originally by: Andrea Griffin

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I believe that it is time to transform the CSM by electing a hardline player representative that will forge the CSM into a strong, united body that can fight for the playerbase and shield it from idiocy.

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How exactly do you plan to do this? The CSM has zero power. CCP can abolish it on a whim. CCP doesn't answer to the CSM, it's the other way around.

Being manipulative is a wonderful skill to have, and I have zero doubt that you are highly skilled considering what you have accomplished in game, but I don't see any leverage here.

Your presence on the CSM with this kind of agenda - the promise to be a bastard - could do more harm than good and cause CCP to take the CSM even less seriously.

Unfortunately you sound a lot like the New York union lawyers I have worked with whose style is extremely confrontational. In the end, BOTH sides lose, and the only person who wins is the lawyer when he walks away with a gob of cash.

Having someone so iconic to Eve on the CSM is appealing. You're obviously very intelligent and capable with an excellent knowledge of the game of Eve, and the meta-game of Eve. But, with this kind of attitude I'm afraid of what the end result will be.

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Edited by: General Windypops on 28/02/2011 22:22:36
Perhaps unexpectedly, I actually think that Mittens would be a very valuable asset to the CSM. He will undoubtedly be voted in, because of the sheer power of the block voting sytem he's employing.

My concern is more that whilst Mittens would be a valuable asset to a balanced and diverse CSM, Goonswarm and the NC have instead cooked up their little plot to fill the CSM with carbon copy clones of themselves for in game advantage, hence why I felt duty bound to stand.

Mittens? Yep, he'd be good. The whole cynical CSM takeover thing? Not chill.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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the subtlety and cunning with which I've murdered my way across EVE for so long with.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Camios

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Here, and the linked article is full of venom and madness. You can't really think CCP is going to work with one that does so much against them.

CSM will never have control over CCP, period. Mittani wants to go to Iceland to fight CCP, that's just a silly thing to do. You hate too much, dude.

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i've met chronotis. he did a ******ed thing with the tech bottleneck; it is the case. he's a nice enough guy, but the implementation of the dys/prom tweak was shortsighted, unless you're part of the tribal liberation force.

csming isn't a job for a sycophant, sorry kiddo

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Originally by: Camios

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Camios

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Here, and the linked article is full of venom and madness. You can't really think CCP is going to work with one that does so much against them.

CSM will never have control over CCP, period. Mittani wants to go to Iceland to fight CCP, that's just a silly thing to do. You hate too much, dude.

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i've met chronotis. he did a ******ed thing with the tech bottleneck; it is the case. he's a nice enough guy, but the implementation of the dys/prom tweak was shortsighted, unless you're part of the tribal liberation force.

csming isn't a job for a sycophant, sorry kiddo

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Let's forget for a moment the content of your toughts, if that implementation was good or terribly wrong.

Your saying

"I am the strong man you want for the CSM, I'll kick their ass, vote for me!"

sounds really like a populist try to ride the discontent.
We don't need "charismatic leaders" on the CSM, we need analytic and reasonable people to do a long and tiring work, like Trebor did.

If you are elected and you act as you tell us, we are going to miss CSM5, and all what they did.

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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Originally by: Camios

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Camios

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Here, and the linked article is full of venom and madness. You can't really think CCP is going to work with one that does so much against them.

CSM will never have control over CCP, period. Mittani wants to go to Iceland to fight CCP, that's just a silly thing to do. You hate too much, dude.

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i've met chronotis. he did a ******ed thing with the tech bottleneck; it is the case. he's a nice enough guy, but the implementation of the dys/prom tweak was shortsighted, unless you're part of the tribal liberation force.

csming isn't a job for a sycophant, sorry kiddo

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Let's forget for a moment the content of your toughts, if that implementation was good or terribly wrong.

Your saying

"I am the strong man you want for the CSM, I'll kick their ass, vote for me!"

sounds really like a populist try to ride the discontent.
We don't need "charismatic leaders" on the CSM, we need analytic and reasonable people to do a long and tiring work, like Trebor did.

If you are elected and you act as you tell us, we are going to miss CSM5, and all what they did.

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What you're saying is, we should add more **** to the backlog that will never be addressed, right?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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It might help assuage your concerns if you know that my political idols are Sir Humphrey Appleby and the 'Master of the Senate'-era LBJ ...

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Sir Humphrey represents, in many ways, the perfect technocrat. He is pompous, arrogant, elitist and regards his less-well-educated minister with some contempt. He frequently uses both his mastery of the English language and even his superb grasp of Latin and Greek grammar to perplex his political master and to obscure relevant issues under discussion. However, his habit of using language as a tool of confusion and obstruction is so deeply ingrained that he is sometimes unable to speak clearly and directly even in circumstances in which he honestly wishes to make himself clearly understood. He genuinely believes that the Civil Service knows what the average person needs and is the most qualified body to run the country, the joke being that not only is Sir Humphrey, as a high-ranking Oxford-educated Civil Servant, quite out of touch with the average person but also that the Civil Service identifies whatever is 'best for Britain' as being 'best for the Civil Service'.

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Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain

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Why aren't you making promises to those living in Empire that CCP will never fulfill and just add to the backlog?

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain

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Why aren't you making promises to those living in Empire that CCP will never fulfill and just add to the backlog?

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Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain

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Why aren't you making promises to those living in Empire that CCP will never fulfill and just add to the backlog?

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Well, when you put it that way...

Maybe I should be clearer. I understand that making wild empty promises to pander to our dreams is silly. There are indeed many candidates promising those in High- and Low- Sec players "oh I'll fix this for you and improve this and do that", but those aren't the people I (or any other thinking Eve citizen) consider as better options.

It's the other candidates who recognize the need to be realistic, but as Empire-experienced and Empire-dwelling players also understand and are directly interested in improving the parts of the game that those who aren't in Null-Sec are very concerned about.

Because, let's face it: even if The Mittani and Co. fix the CSM, they're going to try as hard as possible to address the issues that concern them most--the things that are the biggest and most unbalanced issues... for them. That's all well and good, and the 0.0 people should have every reason to vote for him (them?). However, the rest of us are ideally looking for someone who isn't about making empty promises, but at least has the concerns of Empire players dear to their hearts.

So sure, even if we've "seen the light" and are disillusioned about CSM candidates who promise to "fix game feature X" and "improve game detail Y", we still look at The Mittani and see... someone who cares very much about Eve... as it applies to him living in 0.0.

So in this context (and not "promise to fix this or that"), I ask: In what ways would the average Empire player see the benefits of voting for you? How will a CSM with The Mittani in it help alleviate the issues that are relatively unique to the Space of gate guns and CONCORD?

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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It's been stated multiple times that the CSM isn't for solving issues or really bringing them up with CCP (Again, the massive backlog). It's a sounding board that CCP bounces ideas off of. Also, we know how Empire currently is as most of us have alts that live in Empire along with ours in 0.0 (This is because you can't live in 0.0 without Empire due to the currently broken mechanics of 0.0) so it's not like anyone would advocate CCP trying to dismantle Empire or nerf it.

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Originally by: Boogaloo

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Sounds like you and your jerrymandering cronies have got this whole thing stitched up.

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Originally by: Merrian Webster Dictionary

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Gerrymander

• to divide (a territorial unit) into election districts to give one political party an electoral majority in a large number of districts while concentrating the voting strength of the opposition in as few districts as possible
  
to divide (an area) into political units to give special advantages to one group <gerrymander a school district>

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Originally by: Captain'o'Captain

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Now mitten's mighty "powerbloc" took somewhat 4 months to beat the same guys. I mean IT didn't even fight for delve. Now this is just my opinion, but it seems more like that mitten's coalition was kicking a dead dog, calling that a victory is just.. well... pathetic.

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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It's been stated multiple times that the CSM isn't for solving issues or really bringing them up with CCP (Again, the massive backlog). It's a sounding board that CCP bounces ideas off of.

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Originally by: Mynxee

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The assertion that the CSM is nothing but a focus group is flat-out wrong. CSM is a stakeholder, a status given it by CCP.

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Originally by: Han Pos

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Originally by: Mynxee

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The assertion that the CSM is nothing but a focus group is flat-out wrong. CSM is a stakeholder, a status given it by CCP.

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Wait...people actually believe this?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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holy god pause the thread everyone go look at this at first i was just 'who is this toolshed' and it opened up a yawning gulf of ever-increasing idiocy

there's poetry in there

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Originally by: Han Pos

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Originally by: Mynxee

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The assertion that the CSM is nothing but a focus group is flat-out wrong. CSM is a stakeholder, a status given it by CCP.

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Wait...people actually believe this?

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Originally by: Mynxee

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It will be interesting to see how CSM6's take on "stakeholder" status shapes up after they take office and how they choose to leverage it...or not.

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Originally by: Turina Hollow

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Mittani for CSM

The No BS approach is better than all the rest

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Originally by: Gewrixlera

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Originally by: Boogaloo

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Sounds like you and your jerrymandering cronies have got this whole thing stitched up.

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Throwing around words that don't mean what you think doesn't make you look smart.

Originally by: Merrian Webster Dictionary

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Gerrymander

• to divide (a territorial unit) into election districts to give one political party an electoral majority in a large number of districts while concentrating the voting strength of the opposition in as few districts as possible
  
to divide (an area) into political units to give special advantages to one group <gerrymander a school district>

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Goons can't Gerrymander the election. They can vote as a bloc, but so can any group of players with a cohesive membership and a candidate to stand behind. Fearmongering is for crappy U.S. news networks. Leave it there "Boogaloo".

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Originally by: The Mittani

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holy god pause the thread everyone go look at this at first i was just 'who is this toolshed' and it opened up a yawning gulf of ever-increasing idiocy

there's poetry in there

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Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain

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So, when the rest of Eve looks at The Mittani running for CSM, and consider the benefits of voting you in, what should we be thinking about?

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Originally by: Zati Pasirga

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Hello Mittani

I want to know why you hate free speech and democrazy and if you believe that your hate for free speech makes you a good CSM candidate?
Will you allow other goons to pick their goon-candidates in the future or will you continue to tell everyone who to vote like this year?
Will you allow other goons to write in the goonforum about their CSM campaign in the future or will you continue to threat them with a kick out of goonswarm because you hate free speech and democrazy?

Mittani, could you please explain why you destroyed the tradition of goon primary elections just to make sure that you can boost your ego on a 2nd class flight to iceland guaranteed?

Please explain why you support botting in the goon region and how you supporting botting could affect your CSM run and your relationship to CCP who are against botting?

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Originally by: Skunk Gracklaw

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How could they leverage it? There is no mechanism in place to do so. The whole stakeholder thing is a meaningless gesture by CCP and in real-world terms it has zero effect on the future of the game.

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Originally by: Zati Pasirga

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Hello Mittani

2)Why you threat Kalrand with removal of writing rights and/or kick out of goonswarm if he posts in SA about his CSM campaign?

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Originally by: Kalrand

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Originally by: Zati Pasirga

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Hello Mittani

2)Why you threat Kalrand with removal of writing rights and/or kick out of goonswarm if he posts in SA about his CSM campaign?

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FYI: The Mittani has no authority on SA, only on goonfleet.com.

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Hello Mittani

You accidently forgot to answer my questions, so i will summarize the most important ones:

1)Why do you think that the tradition of primary elections in goonswarm was bad and why you cancelled them to put yourself on #1?
2)Why you threat Kalrand with removal of writing rights and/or kick out of goonswarm if he posts on goonfleet.com about his CSM campaign?
3)Since you believe that you are cool and bright enough to think for all other goons, is it not possible to let them at least elect the 2nd place or is it too dangerous, considering the low popularity of Vile Rat?
4)Why do you support botting inside goon territory and do you plan to change that if you get elected for CSM?

Thank you for taking the time to answer concerns of the voters.

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Originally by: Enriana Shli****n

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The Mittani is a spineless confused nerd.
His tactic is to present himself as a strong leader when in fact he is not at all. The fact that he is leading goons atm says something about the state of goons, not The Mittani's abilities.
Gone are the romantic notions of **** the system. What goons have now is a calculating disturbed post-teen snake, who confuses napping the entirety of eve with being rational in a broken game.
This is a nerd who confessed there are exquisite pleasures to be had in griefing people out of this game.
People who are obviously hilariously ******ed ofc.

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Originally by: Two Shots

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Originally by: Enriana Shli****n

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The Mittani is a spineless confused nerd.
His tactic is to present himself as a strong leader when in fact he is not at all. The fact that he is leading goons atm says something about the state of goons, not The Mittani's abilities.
Gone are the romantic notions of **** the system. What goons have now is a calculating disturbed post-teen snake, who confuses napping the entirety of eve with being rational in a broken game.
This is a nerd who confessed there are exquisite pleasures to be had in griefing people out of this game.
People who are obviously hilariously ******ed ofc.

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Flattery will get you nowhere, I have LARPing and a puppy to fill the void that you just can't hit right.

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Originally by: Marconus Orion

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Originally by: The Mittani

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à. the war against drooling hisec missionrunners, lowsec k/d pirates, and 'elite pvp' nullsec nonsovholders is only beginning; it is CSM time, and the current crop of idiots is looking to ruin everything we know about sovereign space despite having never lived there themselves.We are now uniting with our allies (and even our nominal foes) to ensure that the Nullsec Bloc seizes control over the CSM, Jump Bridges aren't removed from the game, and that CCP is forced to get a clueàà. In this past year, CCP claims they have begun to 'listen' to the CSM, and what a time to listen. Most major nullsec alliances gave up on the CSM ages ago, and this year-long term is full of nobodies and carebears.

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Did you write this?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: iP0D

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Honest question though. ....So, how exactly are you going to approach CCP when it is time to sit down at the table, ....

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i'm going to collect intelligence, make some calls and probably wing it from there. how hostile ccp will be may depend on the composition of the CSM; the best approach may be a subtle one, outside the formal process rather than one that involves meeting minutes. it might be best done within a formal process but i doubt itàone of the easiest fixes and one that seems extremely obvious to me is just to get the whole csm on skype/conference ....

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Originally by: Two Shots

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The man can snap his fingers and say "Hey guys, this thing over here sounds like it might be fun; go do it if you feel like it," and thereby consistently summon up a fleet of a thousand people eager to go die horribly. à.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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What I can deliver is me being a ruthless, manipulative bastard. And you need that...

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Originally by: Mynxee

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It will be interesting to see how CSM6's take on "stakeholder" status shapes up after they take office and how they choose to leverage it...or not.

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Originally by: Cearain

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Belies his ignorance by implying that the majority of the work and influence of the CSM aren't already separate from the official "minutes"

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Originally by: digi

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You deserve a great game.
You deserve a real wage, not slavery.
You need someone to stand up for you and fight for what is right.
You need a Mitten that will unite this previously paralyzed circle of incompetents known as the CSM. The CSM can be strong with the right direction but all previous actions are for naught.

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