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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.03.01 20:36:00 -
[31]
It's boring because you don't undock unless there is a "friendly" BS/carrier fleet for you to hotdrop with your pirate buddies. And obviously no one tells you about such things.
Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |

Dunn Idaho
Caldari Core Impulse
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Posted - 2011.03.01 21:02:00 -
[32]
Go play with your pirate friends in saghtogas
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Azelor Delaria
Caldari Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2011.03.01 21:07:00 -
[33]
Originally by: King Rothgar It's boring because you don't undock unless there is a "friendly" BS/carrier fleet for you to hotdrop with your pirate buddies. And obviously no one tells you about such things.
Man, I wish my corp ran with pirates like Heretic Army...! ***** ***** ***** *****
"No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy." |

David Devant
Gallente CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.03.01 21:29:00 -
[34]
My wonderful thread. What have you done to it? 
Arzad remains uncontested. We're waiting for you. 
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Aznwithbeard
Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP
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Posted - 2011.03.01 21:34:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Azelor Delaria
Originally by: David Devant
Originally by: Arianna Satellizer
Neph bringing out BS fleet to chase cruiser fleet? http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=192605 So wheres the BS fleet youre speaking of? It seems your side had the BS and ze greater numberz.
CTRL-Q...id listen to your advice if your fleet arent such runners every night.
Bored atm so I'll bite on this. Firstly, our side had 'a' BS. Secondly, the 2 forces were broadly comparable but the mail won't show Amon's Scimi.
I'd argue this is a better reflection of the usual state of affairs:
http://ctrl.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8672671
This was second time that night that we actively engaged an Amarr BS fleet with our BC gang. We shipped down to frigs/dessies after that with predictable results.
I would like to say that in my week of being here, I have yet to see a call for battleships. Most of the time, we say "Let's go in cruisers". Just this past Sunday, for example, we took a group of eleven people out in shield battlecruisers, small tackle, and a single Scimitar. Every Minnie who saw us docked up, and we got no love from the pirates, either.
Battleships on both sides tend to be small and uncalled for. When they are, the two instances I have seen of the Minmatar fielding them have been to sit on the Huola 24th Imperial Crusade undock, ready to dock up if it comes down to it. Just last night, bahamut420 and several of his goons in battlecruisers and nano ships "camped" the Amarr Militia in the station. We all just laughed because of how truly pathetic it was.
I have yet to see the Minmatar bring out a true roaming fleet. Everything has been geared for fighting on a gate, station, or simply to get in, blob the hell out of someone, and spam local with "gf" even though all it was was pointing a lone ship and whoring 20 people onto the killmail. That's not a good fight.
I would argue that this is a better representation of what this conflict is like:
Linkage
19 people to take out a lone Omen Navy Issue and an Arbitrator. I watched Huola local spike from 30 to 64 that night, meaning that not only was local doubled, but it was done with the sole intention of blob warfare.
it's to the point that many in the Amarr militia don't want to fight the Minmatar, because we expect the blob. Hell, there have been talks of the Amarr heading on down to the Caldari/Gallente pipe, so we don't have to worry about you guys running around with Heretic Army because you're so friggin' terrible, or the usual 40-man blob waiting to gank a lone Rifter.
You want some fights, then provide them. Every time you provide another blob, it just gives the Amarr one less reason to play with you. And yes, I think we're almost to the point of "I'm taking my toys and going home."
I submit this www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=181292
while the pirates may or may not have been siding with you, you still brought 2 bassis a slew of bc and bs and tacklers (around 20 i think?) to kill a maelstrom, 3 bcs, and a cruiser. also, it took you 30 minutes to build fleet while we patiently sat there waiting.
TLDR get some balls, stop the massive "NEED HELP IN HUOLA" intel calls for a 6 man gang, and lets get some good fights.
While I was FCing a gang a few days back, I had my 20ish man fleet hold in an adjacent system while a few of you took on a few of us. Its called good fights, not OMGZ WHOS GOT BIGGER BLOB. Its also called escalation. Was expecting you to bring more, when you didn't i didnt.
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Sneaky Noob
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.03.01 22:40:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Azelor Delaria
...wah wah we are leet minny are mean blobbers we could win everything if wanted too and when we lose we don't want those ships anyways complain complain...
Sneaky Noob's FUN FACTS:
1.- Arzad and Oyonata, uncontested and under Minmatar occupation
2.- Last night the Amarr undocked a Thanny and a Mega on a Comet and a Jag on the Huola undock...
3.- That fight you all are arguing about was ******ed in many ways but typical of EU TZ fighting. What impresses me more than the amount of DUMB smacktalk found in this thread is that after almost 2 years ya'll are still doing the same thing, over and over and over again.
4.- Flyinghotpocket hates IFW more than he hates AUTOZ.
5.- Highway to the Danger Zone > Can't Stop Believing (for pvp), however... Mandy by Barry Manilow > ALL (for everything)
7.- Hard-shell tacos are for communists and people that kick puppies. While they may "taste" good, so does paste... and you should eat neither.
8.- I skipped #6
9.- US TZ Amarr need to find an FC ASAP. Eran and FHP are poor replacements for Pred.
10.- Don't Stand So Close To Me.
That is all.
The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.03.01 23:09:00 -
[37]
I demand a #6, I feel cheated. You also failed to troll me, or was skipping #6 that troll? God damn it.
Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |

Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
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Posted - 2011.03.01 23:49:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Sneaky Noob 5.- Highway to the Danger Zone > Can't Stop Believing (for pvp)
Disagree.
This for solo PeeVeePee
or
This in fleets when I'm flying a bellicose...because primary calls can **** off, I want that **** dead ASAP.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.03.02 00:15:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 01/03/2011 17:47:54
Originally by: Azelor Delaria
I would like to say that in my week of being here, I have yet to see a call for battleships. Most of the time, we say "Let's go in cruisers". Just this past Sunday, for example, we took a group of eleven people out in shield battlecruisers, small tackle, and a single Scimitar. Every Minnie who saw us docked up, and we got no love from the pirates, either.
Just an FYI, but once you get outside of the Auga/Houla triangle, an 11 man gang is pretty ****ing enormous. *****ing that the pirates won't engage your 11 man fleet is ******ed.
-Liang
Ed: TBH the only people that ever roam that big in the area is the FW gangs, Electus Blobtari, and Ivy League.
Uhm,Liang, that is not really true. We live partly in Dal and we very often get pirate gangs coming through. Yesterday evening, Heretics, obviously bored with camping the oso ama gate, went through dal with a 15 man gang and this evening, we had two pirate gangs, Friends of Harassment and AAA Citizens (the latter working with the Amarr for some reason) moving through there. Pirate gangs are seldom 30 man monster blobs, but they are also very seldom smaller than 8 or so, and almost always fly pimped out stuff. I've got no problem with this, but just wanted to correct the picture somewhat.
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.03.02 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 02/03/2011 01:36:46
Originally by: Bomberlocks
Uhm,Liang, that is not really true. We live partly in Dal and we very often get pirate gangs coming through. Yesterday evening, Heretics, obviously bored with camping the oso ama gate, went through dal with a 15 man gang and this evening, we had two pirate gangs, Friends of Harassment and AAA Citizens (the latter working with the Amarr for some reason) moving through there. Pirate gangs are seldom 30 man monster blobs, but they are also very seldom smaller than 8 or so, and almost always fly pimped out stuff. I've got no problem with this, but just wanted to correct the picture somewhat.
Dal is still part of the Auga/Houla triangle, and I never see those gangs 2 systems further up the pipe. From what I've seen the region outside of your special area of blobsville top ends at 10 man gangs - and those are pretty damn rare.
-Liang
Ed: I think what you seem to be missing is that nobody will go to blobsville Auga/Houla area without being in a reasonably sized gang. But when you get away from that specific area gang sizes drop off fast.
OH YEAH. I'd offer some /respect to IFW for good performance and good sportsmanship in our occasional clashes, but they decided they'd rather be enormous douchebag ****talkers. So no /respect for them. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
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Jones Bones
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2011.03.02 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Azelor Delaria
Man, I wish my corp ran with pirates like Heretic Army...!
LOLWUT?
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Aznwithbeard
Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP
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Posted - 2011.03.02 02:39:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Jones Bones
Originally by: Azelor Delaria
Man, I wish my corp ran with pirates like Heretic Army...!
LOLWUT?
i think theyre trying to say we fly with you.... not sure tho.... Guns don't kill people. onowait. |

Kri Matar
Minmatar Heretic Army
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Posted - 2011.03.02 03:03:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Aznwithbeard
Originally by: Jones Bones
Originally by: Azelor Delaria
Man, I wish my corp ran with pirates like Heretic Army...!
LOLWUT?
i think theyre trying to say we fly with you.... not sure tho....
LOLWHUT?
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Jones Bones
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2011.03.02 03:23:00 -
[44]
I would do anything to fly with AZN. And his beard. So soft. So sensual. Makes me feel secure.
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Vonlutt
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.03.02 03:38:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Vonlutt on 02/03/2011 03:38:44
Originally by: Arianna Satellizer
Confirming that you are never seen in the frontlines.
And I've never seen you, who the **** are you?
It's funny that you guys are bickering over this stupid ****, but it comes down to this:
EU TZ, Amarr outnumber Minny militia 3-1, and US TZ Minny outnumber Amarr 3-1. It's just how it is now, and it's pretty boring.
Feel free to check it, but all day long the Amarr own the Minns, and all night long the Minns own the Amarr. Depending on when you log on the situation is completely different. So we need volunteers to relocate to Eu/US to fix this so we can have proper fights again, mmk? ! |

Ya Nor
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.03.02 04:00:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Vonlutt So we need volunteers to relocate to Eu/US to fix this so we can have proper fights again, mmk?
ill relocate if you pay me. :D Chicks dig guys that play internet spaceships. |

Aznwithbeard
Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP
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Posted - 2011.03.02 04:42:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Jones Bones I would do anything to fly with AZN. And his beard. So soft. So sensual. Makes me feel secure.
confirming my beard is soft and sensual. Guns don't kill people. onowait. |

Azelor Delaria
Caldari Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2011.03.02 06:31:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Aznwithbeard I submit this www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=181292
while the pirates may or may not have been siding with you, you still brought 2 bassis a slew of bc and bs and tacklers (around 20 i think?) to kill a maelstrom, 3 bcs, and a cruiser. also, it took you 30 minutes to build fleet while we patiently sat there waiting.
TLDR get some balls, stop the massive "NEED HELP IN HUOLA" intel calls for a 6 man gang, and lets get some good fights.
While I was FCing a gang a few days back, I had my 20ish man fleet hold in an adjacent system while a few of you took on a few of us. Its called good fights, not OMGZ WHOS GOT BIGGER BLOB. Its also called escalation. Was expecting you to bring more, when you didn't i didnt.
There are no good fights. There may have been weeks and months ago, but there are none. Minmatar know they overrun Amarr at night. It's when they come out. They camp Huola 24th Imperial Crusade station and smack in local, expecting a fight. They may pick off a few dumbasses every now and again, but once it hits US primetime, Amarr just falls back to carebearing and ignoring intelligence passed around in general militia chat.
Hell, even intel channels are lacking in recon!
And it's really no better during the AU/EU timezones! Any time we warn people of a possible fight, there's still very few willing to put their ships on the line. It's to the point, as I said, that a few Amarr FW corporations have been talking about dropping from the militia altogether and heading to the Caldari front, or simply keeping the Empire tag and heading over to fight the Gallente. No one expects good fights. The Amarr are always worried about that blob they know to be there.
Also, this evening an IFW/CTRL-Q gang engaged in Huola. They brought a Vaga and several frigates, as well as a SFI. When Amarr began to - for the first time in weeks - put together a gang of comparable size (our gang consisted of eight people compared to their six), they were quick to jump back to Kourmonen. They waited and pulled together almost 20 people in order to take a 9-man gang.
"Good fight," they said in local. "It wasn't good, you guys pussed out and ran!" was our response. "Couldn't leave it at equal numbers?" "We weren't taking on two battlecruisers with cruisers and frigates."
It seems that Minmatards need the superior firepower as well as numbers. I remember in the Gallente militia we made it almost common to engage Caldari battleship fleets in battlecruisers, and with less numbers. And we'd win. ***** ***** ***** *****
"No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy." |

Aznwithbeard
Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP
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Posted - 2011.03.02 06:37:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Azelor Delaria I remember in the Gallente militia we made it almost common to engage Caldari battleship fleets in battlecruisers, and with less numbers. And we'd win.
^^ all youd have to do is slap some eccm on ur boats and roll them...... frickin gallente supertanking bcs. Guns don't kill people. onowait. |

Sneaky Noob
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.03.02 08:27:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Sneaky Noob on 02/03/2011 08:36:02
Originally by: Azelor Delaria moar emorage... more complain... whine whine whine... minmatard are bad we are good we rock blah blah blah...
Srsly dude, deep cleansing breaths. It's going to be OK, I promise.
Also, you're complaining a outnumbered HAC-Cruiser-Frigate gang didn't suicide itself into your station hugging BS-BC gang? Really? 
In retrospect, it's nice to have a new designated Amarr Complainer back on the forums.
EDIT: I know why you're mad, 12 kills and 11 losses would make anyone complain.
The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army
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Posted - 2011.03.02 09:39:00 -
[51]
I love this thread so much.
Except the part about Azn. That is his fault. _______________________ Drink Eau du Nichup«, the taste of heaven. Now available as Nichup Citrus« as well! |

Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.03.02 11:57:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Vonlutt Edited by: Vonlutt on 02/03/2011 03:38:44
Originally by: Arianna Satellizer
Confirming that you are never seen in the frontlines.
And I've never seen you, who the **** are you?
It's funny that you guys are bickering over this stupid ****, but it comes down to this:
EU TZ, Amarr outnumber Minny militia 3-1, and US TZ Minny outnumber Amarr 3-1. It's just how it is now, and it's pretty boring.
Feel free to check it, but all day long the Amarr own the Minns, and all night long the Minns own the Amarr. Depending on when you log on the situation is completely different. So we need volunteers to relocate to Eu/US to fix this so we can have proper fights again, mmk?
This, for the most part. I'm EU TZ and we mostly see larger Amarr gangs, or two or three separate gangs. I know that that changes later on.
Still, it's not always like that.
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Azelor Delaria
Caldari Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2011.03.02 14:15:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Sneaky Noob Edited by: Sneaky Noob on 02/03/2011 08:36:02
Originally by: Azelor Delaria moar emorage... more complain... whine whine whine... minmatard are bad we are good we rock blah blah blah...
Srsly dude, deep cleansing breaths. It's going to be OK, I promise.
Also, you're complaining a outnumbered HAC-Cruiser-Frigate gang didn't suicide itself into your station hugging BS-BC gang? Really? 
In retrospect, it's nice to have a new designated Amarr Complainer back on the forums.
EDIT: I know why you're mad, 12 kills and 11 losses would make anyone complain.
It's good to know that you didn't even read my post and then decided to quote it, "edit" it, and then try to say, "lawl ur bad".
Protip: You might ant to think before you post. |

Dunn Idaho
Caldari Core Impulse
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Posted - 2011.03.02 16:26:00 -
[54]
Minnies go get a ducking blob again allready, i'm ducking bored.
Until you do get a blob again, ima stick to killing germans in faction BSs, marauders and carriers ratting with black ops
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Ezra Tair
Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.03.02 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Ezra Tair on 02/03/2011 17:10:00
Quote:
[ 2011.03.01 16:18:20 ] Azelor Delaria > So bad. [ 2011.03.01 16:18:36 ] Ezra Tair > I know right, you should bring more. [ 2011.03.01 16:18:45 ] Azelor Delaria > We're not Minnies. [ 2011.03.01 16:18:57 ] Ezra Tair > IF YOU WERE, I'D BE DEAD, THANKFULLY YOU ARE NOT. [ 2011.03.01 16:18:59 ] Azelor Delaria > We don't need 40-man blobs to kill people who aren't pusies/. [ 2011.03.01 16:19:02 ] Ezra Tair > <opps caps> [ 2011.03.01 16:19:14 ] Ezra Tair > You need caps for that :P [ 2011.03.01 16:20:44 ] Azelor Delaria > Any time you want to fave a fight, let me know. [ 2011.03.01 16:20:50 ] Azelor Delaria > Until then, keep being that ***** you are.
He was upset because my smartbomb fit phoon with lows full of stabs would not engage a sacralige and two frigs. I supose my responses were not particualty flattering, but it seems he is very upset. Also if you leave the 'hot spots' of FW, you will encounter smaller gangs, such as his. Alas I was alone, and set up to kill untanked kiting bombers that run rampant thought the minmatar controled back end, and was unable to engage.
I personaly don't find it at all difficult to get a fight, just harder to get one where I know I'll get a kill and not a loss. But it doesn't stop me from trying. I think the current situation is due to no small part by the lack of routes though and around the Kour-auga hotspots. Would be interesting if the "FW-region" were set up a bitmore like the caldari-gallente front.
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.03.02 22:12:00 -
[56]
Good post op.
I think plex fighting is always great. Even if I end up dying to a much larger force I can at least move away from the entry and try to kill the initial tackle before I die. Sometimes, rarely, I manage to do this and warp out. Either way its good fun.
I really couldn't care less about occupancy but I often go in plexes because they are an obvious spot to find a fight.
The rats are a real problem and I wish they would do away with them - or they would stand down as was suggested. Because I donĘt want the agro I move away from the timers and the rats. Usually they donĘt attack. I almost never actually do the plex timers I just enter them and wait for fights.
I would love to see more plex fighting - even if it is not for system occupancy. It beats the hell out of gate fighting with blobs and falcons waiting on the other side. Not to mention gate camps.
If you see me in local and I'm looking for a fight then look for a plex and you will likely find me.
Also instead of just *****ing in here we should be supporting someone running for csm who wants to boost fw plexxing. If it is fixed it could very easily lead to awesome small gang pvp. Anyone know a candidate that this would be a priority for?
-Cearain
Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906 |

Sneaky Noob
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.03.02 22:29:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Azelor Delaria
Originally by: Sneaky Noob Edited by: Sneaky Noob on 02/03/2011 08:36:02
Originally by: Azelor Delaria moar emorage... more complain... whine whine whine... minmatard are bad we are good we rock blah blah blah...
Srsly dude, deep cleansing breaths. It's going to be OK, I promise.
Also, you're complaining a outnumbered HAC-Cruiser-Frigate gang didn't suicide itself into your station hugging BS-BC gang? Really? 
In retrospect, it's nice to have a new designated Amarr Complainer back on the forums.
EDIT: I know why you're mad, 12 kills and 11 losses would make anyone complain.
wah wah wah complain moar amarr read minny troll emo emo random swearing blah blah
Im gonna do you a favor an post your kill stats from the amarr killboard. 30-12 is better than the 12 losses to 12 kills you'd have on the minny board. still this harb fit is all kinds of win.
All in all, I find your anger/complaining rather subpar compared to some of the past whine-threads posted on this here forum of Warfare & Tactics. However, since at the moment you are the ONLY Amarr that sees fit to come out and complain I will overlook your delusional rants and spittle-filled raging in local and will award you ONE :GOLFCLAP:
The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
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Arianna Satellizer
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Posted - 2011.03.02 23:14:00 -
[58]
Originally by: David Devant
Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Some crap
Please post with your main so we can laugh at you in game as well. Thanks.
If you look closely into your losses youll see me killing you solo and in a gang couple of times I believe. Look closely you'll see the resemblance... Let me give you a hint "Satellizer"
And my post an insult??? So whats new its not like you guys will undock and start fighting now... yeah right. Cosmic miracle waiting to happen. Weve been waiting everyday at the main frontline gates every EU night. Last fun ive had was when you guys dropped your 2 nyx on our 20 bs gang+carrier on top of your BS gang. When was that 2 months ago? We lost but it was fun.
And the minnies complaining about Amarr blob. Are we to blame if its easy for us to form up with a lot of people wanting to participate. Maybe, if you guys in the minny side stop forming up based on your super intel channels within intel channels, youll actually get more people to fight. Not our fault that some your guys like to warp at 0 on our gate camps then go shout BLOB! YOu guys give us no fight, were forced to gate camp. Ever noticed how we actually love your new huola kourm gatecamp trend?
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Azelor Delaria
Caldari Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2011.03.03 01:10:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Arianna Satellizer
Originally by: David Devant
Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Some crap
Please post with your main so we can laugh at you in game as well. Thanks.
If you look closely into your losses youll see me killing you solo and in a gang couple of times I believe. Look closely you'll see the resemblance... Let me give you a hint "Satellizer"
And my post an insult??? So whats new its not like you guys will undock and start fighting now... yeah right. Cosmic miracle waiting to happen. Weve been waiting everyday at the main frontline gates every EU night. Last fun ive had was when you guys dropped your 2 nyx on our 20 bs gang+carrier on top of your BS gang. When was that 2 months ago? We lost but it was fun.
And the minnies complaining about Amarr blob. Are we to blame if its easy for us to form up with a lot of people wanting to participate. Maybe, if you guys in the minny side stop forming up based on your super intel channels within intel channels, youll actually get more people to fight. Not our fault that some your guys like to warp at 0 on our gate camps then go shout BLOB! YOu guys give us no fight, were forced to gate camp. Ever noticed how we actually love your new huola kourm gatecamp trend?
HAI MAIEV <3333 ***** ***** ***** *****
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BacardiDesire
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.03.03 01:11:00 -
[60]
don't join caldari, join gallente they have the same problem in EU timezone now sotf is gone  --- Crazy dutch mofo |
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