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David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.02.26 18:18:00 - [1] Two weeks ago, largely thanks to the ceaseless efforts Valkear General Sasawong, Arzad - home of the rebellion, fell from Amarrian control. Around this shining beacon of Matari strength Semou continues to burn. God botherers, where were you? As an Intaki internet spaceships dude I of course have a vested interest in "libertT, TgalitT, fraternitT", but tbqfh my primary concern is to try and get some good fights going. Last time Arzad fell, we were here in strength and engaging with our allies in some of the fiercest competition for sovereignity that the Minnie/Amarr front has ever seen. On behalf of our corp I would like to invite our counterparts to stand toe to toe with the Minmatar Militia in some quality plex engagements. The euro-zone may not be able to field 10 Abaddons at the drop of a hat, but come for our Ruptures and you're gonna be hurting. Yes we know the plexing system is faulty, yes we know it offers little reward. But is not the battle reward in itself? Avaunt! David Devant Cheief Executive Officer CTRL-Q
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.02.26 18:41:00 - [2] Speed tanking frigates and reship to max. size ships if anything "dangerous" appears .. sound familiar? Why should anyone bother chasing frigates around on the off-chance that there is a blob of actual ships ready? Even the RP crews are fed up with the whole thing at this point, its a senseless waste of time and an affront to us players. Retaking systems is easier than "defending" against frigs that speed tank all plexes, even minors (thought I was hallucinating first time I saw that one), so keep orbiting .. we'll be back from making tens of billions SoonÖ. FW is blobs, counter-blobs, neutral blobs, capitals and neutral unprobable booster alts .. FW has lost its lustre. There is no fights/battles to be had, one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks.
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.02.26 19:37:00 - [3] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Speed tanking frigates and reship to max. size ships if anything "dangerous" appears .. sound familiar? Why should anyone bother chasing frigates around on the off-chance that there is a blob of actual ships ready? Even the RP crews are fed up with the whole thing at this point, its a senseless waste of time and an affront to us players. Retaking systems is easier than "defending" against frigs that speed tank all plexes, even minors (thought I was hallucinating first time I saw that one), so keep orbiting .. we'll be back from making tens of billions SoonÖ. FW is blobs, counter-blobs, neutral blobs, capitals and neutral unprobable booster alts .. FW has lost its lustre. There is no fights/battles to be had, one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks. w/e. Bring 10 cruisers and so will we. Quit whining and come get some. Is this Veshta btw? If it is post with your fw character if you're in a fw thread.
Dingos Kidneys	Posted - 2011.02.26 20:40:00 - [4] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks. Well, maybe someone should tell Neph that if he brings 20 battleships and 9 guardians (with 10 extra BSes skulking in a safe just in case things go wrong) to chase down a cruiser-gang, he isn't likely to: a) get the minnie FC to engage at spastically low odds or b) catch any stragglers because he only brought BSes and no tackle mong.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.02.26 21:19:00 - [5] Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 26/02/2011 21:27:38 Originally by: Dingos Kidneys Originally by: Hirana Yoshida one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks. Well, maybe someone should tell Neph that if he brings 20 battleships and 9 guardians (with 10 extra BSes skulking in a safe just in case things go wrong) to chase down a cruiser-gang, he isn't likely to: a) get the minnie FC to engage at spastically low odds or b) catch any stragglers because he only brought BSes and no tackle mong. Confirming Ive been in the militia for about a week, we bring 10 cruisers, they bring 10 battleships with logistics and have a backup fleet 2 systems over. Hell this morning u needed a rapier, cyclone, and rupture with a neutral scimitar to kill a jaguar pro. Have had 2 decent fights and the rest have been ganks. Anytime an Amarrian FC wants to have a decent fight PM me and well do x vs x frig/cruiser/bc etc. Also confirming Im not an alt. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.02.27 01:25:00 - [6] I'd just like to confirm that small gang warfare is still alive, even if it is somewhat ill at the moment with a bad case of the blob. The problem with the blob is that you simply do not get good fights. Bringing a 20 man BS gang with Logi support and a 15 man BC support gang is just going to make WTs run or dock up. You can smack all you like in local but that's the way it is. It's in everyone's interest to limit the size of their gangs.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.02.27 09:22:00 - [7] Originally by: David Devant w/e.... Fairly certain I am the only Yoshida in Eve with a vested interest in FW, so yeah. And no I am not going through the circus that is CCP's inept HTTP coding to change account every time I have a chance to *** and moan about the status of FW Why should it matter anyway as long arguments are sound and reasoning valid? Originally by:** Dingos Kidneys Well, maybe someone should tell Neph... Confirming that it takes one to tango .. grow up will you, both of us are guilty in equal measure. Perhaps if more fights were conducted away from "home systems" where capitals are not available at the drop of a hat the urge to over-ship wouldn't be as great. Originally by: Bomberlocks I'd just like to confirm that small gang warfare is still alive... It's on life-support, wasting away in a coma. Blobs are more than the already covered over-shipping tendency caused by capitals (5 SC's on the front now is it or do we have 3 as well?). "Blobs" are also the 5 Thrashers trying to kill one Slicer or the ten Hurricanes ganking lone cruisers. I am beginning to think that RvB had the right idea all along with war conducted on the basis of gentlemen agreements/fun and not just for the almighty mail which is what FW has degenerated to.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.02.27 10:13:00 - [8] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 27/02/2011 10:13:27 I must live in the wrong timezone. I pirate in the Amarr/Minnie FW area all the time and its never as blobby as you guys say. Yeah the plexing sucks, but come on now. Its all about the pew, pew, pew anyway. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.02.27 10:42:00 - [9] It's not that blobby it's true and we still manage to enjoy ourseleves rather a lot if I'm honest Veshta, Veshta Yoshida. You should post with this character because it's the one fw people know. This was the last time we met: http://ctrl.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7921336 OMFG you were blobbed! You came back in another slicer 5 minutes later and returned the favour. See? Honourable pvp is still very much alive and kicking. What I am proposing is that we enhance opportunities for it occur. System occupancy may be severely faulty. But we know that plexes are not, they are one of the best opportunites for structured pvp in the game. With clever tactics a superior force can be overwhelmed. Size restrictions encourage the opposition to bring a reasonable force. They also suck in noobs from the much maligned 24th and TLF because WE NEEDS NUMBERS! What I'm saying is, come play with us. I know some of you will. AR and ABC are notable corps for bringing a tight force. We're just tired of retreating down to metro every night because you're forming something we have no hope of defeating.
Arianna Satellizer	Posted - 2011.02.27 10:52:00 - [10] Originally by: Aznwithbeard Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 26/02/2011 21:27:38 Originally by: Dingos Kidneys Originally by: Hirana Yoshida one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks. Well, maybe someone should tell Neph that if he brings 20 battleships and 9 guardians (with 10 extra BSes skulking in a safe just in case things go wrong) to chase down a cruiser-gang, he isn't likely to: a) get the minnie FC to engage at spastically low odds or b) catch any stragglers because he only brought BSes and no tackle mong. Confirming Ive been in the militia for about a week, we bring 10 cruisers, they bring 10 battleships with logistics and have a backup fleet 2 systems over. Hell this morning u needed a rapier, cyclone, and rupture with a neutral scimitar to kill a jaguar pro. Have had 2 decent fights and the rest have been ganks. Anytime an Amarrian FC wants to have a decent fight PM me and well do x vs x frig/cruiser/bc etc. Also confirming Im not an alt. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Confirming that you are never seen in the frontlines.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.02.27 12:12:00 - [11] Originally by: David Devant OMFG you were blobbed!.. Heh, that mail is ancient Nowadays that sort of engagement is rare as hell with Loki boosters everywhere, the "honourable fight" died when the T3 alts matured Plexes and their size restrictions would be a lot better if NPCs were changed. TD from Amarr and the TP/Missile spam from Matar are more than a little annoying. They should have been coded to "stand down" when members of both sides are present.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.02.27 18:16:00 - [12] Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 27/02/2011 18:16:55 Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Originally by: Aznwithbeard Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 26/02/2011 21:27:38 Originally by: Dingos Kidneys Originally by: Hirana Yoshida one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks. Well, maybe someone should tell Neph that if he brings 20 battleships and 9 guardians (with 10 extra BSes skulking in a safe just in case things go wrong) to chase down a cruiser-gang, he isn't likely to: a) get the minnie FC to engage at spastically low odds or b) catch any stragglers because he only brought BSes and no tackle mong. Confirming Ive been in the militia for about a week, we bring 10 cruisers, they bring 10 battleships with logistics and have a backup fleet 2 systems over. Hell this morning u needed a rapier, cyclone, and rupture with a neutral scimitar to kill a jaguar pro. Have had 2 decent fights and the rest have been ganks. Anytime an Amarrian FC wants to have a decent fight PM me and well do x vs x frig/cruiser/bc etc. Also confirming Im not an alt. WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Confirming that you are never seen in the frontlines. Uhhh, since joining Ive been pretty active, and.... you can look at the KB? K thx Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Ya Nor Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.02.27 23:06:00 - [13] confirming azn has been mowing down wt's since he joined FW. looking at the killboard top killers would help you out alot... Chicks dig guys that play internet spaceships.
foksieloy Minmatar Universal Army	Posted - 2011.02.28 06:57:00 - [14] It's Azn's fault. _______________________ Drink Eau du Nichup«, the taste of heaven. Now available as Nichup Citrus« as well!
Arianna Satellizer	Posted - 2011.02.28 10:28:00 - [15] oh look i see King rothgar former amarr second in your KB? Who is azn again?
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.02.28 11:09:00 - [16] Originally by: Arianna Satellizer oh look i see King rothgar former amarr second in your KB? Who is azn again? Actually, seeing King Rothgar moving to Minnies, as well as Saly Va, Voody Voodoo and Del fy, I think the blobbing problem may in fact solve itself in the end. This always does tend to happen to FW btw, one side gets too big and the other side won't fight any more and so people and corps on the bigger side start leaving due to boredom. Looks good to me. I get a chuckle from seeing Adolf Ehrnrooth on some of those KMs. A force for himself, shoots everyone from all sides, and more often than not gets away with it too.
Ya Nor Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.02.28 11:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Arianna Satellizer oh look i see King rothgar former amarr second in your KB? Who is azn again? its very convenient that you wait until the new week starts to look at and comment on the killboard top killers. do some damn research before you open your mouth. its really not that hard... Chicks dig guys that play internet spaceships.
Pax Thar Minmatar Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2011.02.28 13:08:00 - [18] Plex.s are a great way to force an almost even engagement and the Murientor will always engage if the odds are even close to winnable. And we are not alone.
Lord Ryan 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.02.28 17:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Speed tanking frigates and reship to max. size ships if anything "dangerous" appears .. sound familiar? Why should anyone bother chasing frigates around on the off-chance that there is a blob of actual ships ready? Even the RP crews are fed up with the whole thing at this point, its a senseless waste of time and an affront to us players. Retaking systems is easier than "defending" against frigs that speed tank all plexes, even minors (thought I was hallucinating first time I saw that one), so keep orbiting .. we'll be back from making tens of billions SoonÖ. FW is blobs, counter-blobs, neutral blobs, capitals and neutral unprobable booster alts .. FW has lost its lustre. There is no fights/battles to be had, one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks. ^this^
King Rothgar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.02.28 20:10:00 - [20] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Speed tanking frigates and reship to max. size ships if anything "dangerous" appears .. sound familiar? Why should anyone bother chasing frigates around on the off-chance that there is a blob of actual ships ready? Even the RP crews are fed up with the whole thing at this point, its a senseless waste of time and an affront to us players. Retaking systems is easier than "defending" against frigs that speed tank all plexes, even minors (thought I was hallucinating first time I saw that one), so keep orbiting .. we'll be back from making tens of billions SoonÖ. FW is blobs, counter-blobs, neutral blobs, capitals and neutral unprobable booster alts .. FW has lost its lustre. There is no fights/battles to be had, one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks. There is a lot of reshipping and it's a problem on both sides. If amarr brings a frig fleet, minnies bring cruisers, then amarr ships up to BC's and it just keeps going. Eventually one side realizes they just can't win or a big BS/cap fight happens. Sometimes those with more skill win and sometimes the bigger blob wins. That isn't to say you can't get some nice small fights though. With my switch to the minmatar side I find myself having to grind standings once more. The result of that is an awful lot of minor/medium plex running solo in a frigate. It's surprising how many little fights I've gotten in those. It's mostly boring, but I've also gotten some of the best fights I've had in months in them. As for my switch, it has nothing to do with blobbing. The epic hypocrisy and back stabbing within amarr is what drove me out. Not to say such things don't occur on the minmatar side, I'm sure they do. But I find it hard to believe it could be any worse. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.
Lord Ryan 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.02.28 20:38:00 - [21] Originally by: King Rothgar Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Speed tanking frigates and reship to max. size ships if anything "dangerous" appears .. sound familiar? Why should anyone bother chasing frigates around on the off-chance that there is a blob of actual ships ready? Even the RP crews are fed up with the whole thing at this point, its a senseless waste of time and an affront to us players. Retaking systems is easier than "defending" against frigs that speed tank all plexes, even minors (thought I was hallucinating first time I saw that one), so keep orbiting .. we'll be back from making tens of billions SoonÖ. FW is blobs, counter-blobs, neutral blobs, capitals and neutral unprobable booster alts .. FW has lost its lustre. There is no fights/battles to be had, one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks. There is a lot of reshipping and it's a problem on both sides. If amarr brings a frig fleet, minnies bring cruisers, then amarr ships up to BC's and it just keeps going. Eventually one side realizes they just can't win or a big BS/cap fight happens. Sometimes those with more skill win and sometimes the bigger blob wins. That isn't to say you can't get some nice small fights though. With my switch to the minmatar side I find myself having to grind standings once more. The result of that is an awful lot of minor/medium plex running solo in a frigate. It's surprising how many little fights I've gotten in those. It's mostly boring, but I've also gotten some of the best fights I've had in months in them. As for my switch, it has nothing to do with blobbing. The epic hypocrisy and Nephilim Xeno is what drove me out. Not to say such things don't occur on the minmatar side, I'm sure they do. But I find it hard to believe it could be any worse. Really I've alway found him quite likeable.I did the Minnie to Amarr switch, From -6 Amarr to +8 Amarr, took a couple months just to get positive. It was not fun. Good luck!
Arianna Satellizer	Posted - 2011.02.28 22:56:00 - [22] Edited by: Arianna Satellizer on 28/02/2011 22:59:39 Originally by: Dingos Kidneys Originally by: Hirana Yoshida one a month or less the rest are stupid suicides, hotdrops and ganks. Well, maybe someone should tell Neph that if he brings 20 battleships and 9 guardians (with 10 extra BSes skulking in a safe just in case things go wrong) to chase down a cruiser-gang, he isn't likely to: a) get the minnie FC to engage at spastically low odds or b) catch any stragglers because he only brought BSes and no tackle mong. Neph bringing out BS fleet to chase cruiser fleet? http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=192605 So wheres the BS fleet youre speaking of? It seems your side had the BS and ze greater numberz. CTRL-Q...id listen to your advice if your fleet arent such runners every night.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.01 05:47:00 - [23] Originally by: Arianna Satellizer oh look i see King rothgar former amarr second in your KB? Who is azn again? I take this as an insult and a challenge. If you werent an alt Id flex more epeen and say something about your mother.... instead Ill just continue chain smoking and scanning C+P Guns don't kill people. onowait.
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.01 10:45:00 - [24] Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Some crap Please post with your main so we can laugh at you in game as well. Thanks.
Ya Nor Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.01 11:03:00 - [25] Originally by: David Devant Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Some crap Please post with your main so we can laugh at you in game as well. Thanks. what he said. attempting to smack behind an alt does you no good now does it? Chicks dig guys that play internet spaceships.
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.01 11:52:00 - [26] Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Neph bringing out BS fleet to chase cruiser fleet? http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=192605 So wheres the BS fleet youre speaking of? It seems your side had the BS and ze greater numberz. CTRL-Q...id listen to your advice if your fleet arent such runners every night. Bored atm so I'll bite on this. Firstly, our side had 'a' BS. Secondly, the 2 forces were broadly comparable but the mail won't show Amon's Scimi. I'd argue this is a better reflection of the usual state of affairs: http://ctrl.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8672671 This was second time that night that we actively engaged an Amarr BS fleet with our BC gang. We shipped down to frigs/dessies after that with predictable results.
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.01 15:21:00 - [27] Originally by: David Devant Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Neph bringing out BS fleet to chase cruiser fleet? http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=192605 So wheres the BS fleet youre speaking of? It seems your side had the BS and ze greater numberz. CTRL-Q...id listen to your advice if your fleet arent such runners every night. Bored atm so I'll bite on this. Firstly, our side had 'a' BS. Secondly, the 2 forces were broadly comparable but the mail won't show Amon's Scimi. I'd argue this is a better reflection of the usual state of affairs: http://ctrl.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8672671 This was second time that night that we actively engaged an Amarr BS fleet with our BC gang. We shipped down to frigs/dessies after that with predictable results. I would like to say that in my week of being here, I have yet to see a call for battleships. Most of the time, we say "Let's go in cruisers". Just this past Sunday, for example, we took a group of eleven people out in shield battlecruisers, small tackle, and a single Scimitar. Every Minnie who saw us docked up, and we got no love from the pirates, either. Battleships on both sides tend to be small and uncalled for. When they are, the two instances I have seen of the Minmatar fielding them have been to sit on the Huola 24th Imperial Crusade undock, ready to dock up if it comes down to it. Just last night, bahamut420 and several of his goons in battlecruisers and nano ships "camped" the Amarr Militia in the station. We all just laughed because of how truly pathetic it was. I have yet to see the Minmatar bring out a true roaming fleet. Everything has been geared for fighting on a gate, station, or simply to get in, blob the hell out of someone, and spam local with "gf" even though all it was was pointing a lone ship and whoring 20 people onto the killmail. That's not a good fight. I would argue that this is a better representation of what this conflict is like: Linkage 19 people to take out a lone Omen Navy Issue and an Arbitrator. I watched Huola local spike from 30 to 64 that night, meaning that not only was local doubled, but it was done with the sole intention of blob warfare. it's to the point that many in the Amarr militia don't want to fight the Minmatar, because we expect the blob. Hell, there have been talks of the Amarr heading on down to the Caldari/Gallente pipe, so we don't have to worry about you guys running around with Heretic Army because you're so friggin' terrible, or the usual 40-man blob waiting to gank a lone Rifter. You want some fights, then provide them. Every time you provide another blob, it just gives the Amarr one less reason to play with you. And yes, I think we're almost to the point of "I'm taking my toys and going home." *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Lord Ryan 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2011.03.01 17:44:00 - [28] FW Pwnage!
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.01 17:47:00 - [29] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 01/03/2011 17:47:54 Originally by: Azelor Delaria I would like to say that in my week of being here, I have yet to see a call for battleships. Most of the time, we say "Let's go in cruisers". Just this past Sunday, for example, we took a group of eleven people out in shield battlecruisers, small tackle, and a single Scimitar. Every Minnie who saw us docked up, and we got no love from the pirates, either. Just an FYI, but once you get outside of the Auga/Houla triangle, an 11 man gang is pretty **ing enormous. *ing that the pirates won't engage your 11 man fleet is **ed. -Liang Ed: TBH the only people that ever roam that big in the area is the FW gangs, Electus Blobtari, and Ivy League. -- Eve Forum *** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Dunn Idaho Caldari Core Impulse	Posted - 2011.03.01 20:10:00 - [30] Well, atm its pretty **ing booring with all the frig and cruiser **. its really not my flavor, still stick around for the money though.
King Rothgar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.01 20:36:00 - [31] It's boring because you don't undock unless there is a "friendly" BS/carrier fleet for you to hotdrop with your pirate buddies. And obviously no one tells you about such things. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.
Dunn Idaho Caldari Core Impulse	Posted - 2011.03.01 21:02:00 - [32] Go play with your pirate friends in saghtogas
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.01 21:07:00 - [33] Originally by: King Rothgar It's boring because you don't undock unless there is a "friendly" BS/carrier fleet for you to hotdrop with your pirate buddies. And obviously no one tells you about such things. Man, I wish my corp ran with pirates like Heretic Army...! *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.01 21:29:00 - [34] My wonderful thread. What have you done to it? Arzad remains uncontested. We're waiting for you.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.01 21:34:00 - [35] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: David Devant Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Neph bringing out BS fleet to chase cruiser fleet? http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=192605 So wheres the BS fleet youre speaking of? It seems your side had the BS and ze greater numberz. CTRL-Q...id listen to your advice if your fleet arent such runners every night. Bored atm so I'll bite on this. Firstly, our side had 'a' BS. Secondly, the 2 forces were broadly comparable but the mail won't show Amon's Scimi. I'd argue this is a better reflection of the usual state of affairs: http://ctrl.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8672671 This was second time that night that we actively engaged an Amarr BS fleet with our BC gang. We shipped down to frigs/dessies after that with predictable results. I would like to say that in my week of being here, I have yet to see a call for battleships. Most of the time, we say "Let's go in cruisers". Just this past Sunday, for example, we took a group of eleven people out in shield battlecruisers, small tackle, and a single Scimitar. Every Minnie who saw us docked up, and we got no love from the pirates, either. Battleships on both sides tend to be small and uncalled for. When they are, the two instances I have seen of the Minmatar fielding them have been to sit on the Huola 24th Imperial Crusade undock, ready to dock up if it comes down to it. Just last night, bahamut420 and several of his goons in battlecruisers and nano ships "camped" the Amarr Militia in the station. We all just laughed because of how truly pathetic it was. I have yet to see the Minmatar bring out a true roaming fleet. Everything has been geared for fighting on a gate, station, or simply to get in, blob the hell out of someone, and spam local with "gf" even though all it was was pointing a lone ship and whoring 20 people onto the killmail. That's not a good fight. I would argue that this is a better representation of what this conflict is like: Linkage 19 people to take out a lone Omen Navy Issue and an Arbitrator. I watched Huola local spike from 30 to 64 that night, meaning that not only was local doubled, but it was done with the sole intention of blob warfare. it's to the point that many in the Amarr militia don't want to fight the Minmatar, because we expect the blob. Hell, there have been talks of the Amarr heading on down to the Caldari/Gallente pipe, so we don't have to worry about you guys running around with Heretic Army because you're so friggin' terrible, or the usual 40-man blob waiting to gank a lone Rifter. You want some fights, then provide them. Every time you provide another blob, it just gives the Amarr one less reason to play with you. And yes, I think we're almost to the point of "I'm taking my toys and going home." I submit this www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=181292 while the pirates may or may not have been siding with you, you still brought 2 bassis a slew of bc and bs and tacklers (around 20 i think?) to kill a maelstrom, 3 bcs, and a cruiser. also, it took you 30 minutes to build fleet while we patiently sat there waiting. TLDR get some balls, stop the massive "NEED HELP IN HUOLA" intel calls for a 6 man gang, and lets get some good fights. While I was FCing a gang a few days back, I had my 20ish man fleet hold in an adjacent system while a few of you took on a few of us. Its called good fights, not OMGZ WHOS GOT BIGGER BLOB. Its also called escalation. Was expecting you to bring more, when you didn't i didnt. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.01 22:40:00 - [36] Originally by: Azelor Delaria ...wah wah we are leet minny are mean blobbers we could win everything if wanted too and when we lose we don't want those ships anyways complain complain... Sneaky Noob's FUN FACTS: 1.- Arzad and Oyonata, uncontested and under Minmatar occupation 2.- Last night the Amarr undocked a Thanny and a Mega on a Comet and a Jag on the Huola undock... 3.- That fight you all are arguing about was *****ed in many ways but typical of EU TZ fighting. What impresses me more than the amount of DUMB smacktalk found in this thread is that after almost 2 years ya'll are still doing the same thing, over and over and over again. 4.- Flyinghotpocket hates IFW more than he hates AUTOZ. 5.- Highway to the Danger Zone > Can't Stop Believing (for pvp), however... Mandy by Barry Manilow > ALL (for everything) 7.- Hard-shell tacos are for communists and people that kick puppies. While they may "taste" good, so does paste... and you should eat neither. 8.- I skipped #6 9.- US TZ Amarr need to find an FC ASAP. Eran and FHP are poor replacements for Pred. 10.- Don't Stand So Close To Me. That is all. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE* -------
King Rothgar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.01 23:09:00 - [37] I demand a #6, I feel cheated. You also failed to troll me, or was skipping #6 that troll? God damn it. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.
Machiavelli's Nemesis Angry Mustellid	Posted - 2011.03.01 23:49:00 - [38] Originally by: Sneaky Noob 5.- Highway to the Danger Zone > Can't Stop Believing (for pvp) Disagree. This for solo PeeVeePee or This in fleets when I'm flying a bellicose...because primary calls can ** off, I want that ** dead ASAP.
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.02 00:15:00 - [39] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 01/03/2011 17:47:54 Originally by: Azelor Delaria I would like to say that in my week of being here, I have yet to see a call for battleships. Most of the time, we say "Let's go in cruisers". Just this past Sunday, for example, we took a group of eleven people out in shield battlecruisers, small tackle, and a single Scimitar. Every Minnie who saw us docked up, and we got no love from the pirates, either. Just an FYI, but once you get outside of the Auga/Houla triangle, an 11 man gang is pretty **ing enormous. *ing that the pirates won't engage your 11 man fleet is ****ed. -Liang Ed: TBH the only people that ever roam that big in the area is the FW gangs, Electus Blobtari, and Ivy League. Uhm,Liang, that is not really true. We live partly in Dal and we very often get pirate gangs coming through. Yesterday evening, Heretics, obviously bored with camping the oso ama gate, went through dal with a 15 man gang and this evening, we had two pirate gangs, Friends of Harassment and AAA Citizens (the latter working with the Amarr for some reason) moving through there. Pirate gangs are seldom 30 man monster blobs, but they are also very seldom smaller than 8 or so, and almost always fly pimped out stuff. I've got no problem with this, but just wanted to correct the picture somewhat.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.02 01:31:00 - [40] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 02/03/2011 01:36:46 Originally by: Bomberlocks Uhm,Liang, that is not really true. We live partly in Dal and we very often get pirate gangs coming through. Yesterday evening, Heretics, obviously bored with camping the oso ama gate, went through dal with a 15 man gang and this evening, we had two pirate gangs, Friends of Harassment and AAA Citizens (the latter working with the Amarr for some reason) moving through there. Pirate gangs are seldom 30 man monster blobs, but they are also very seldom smaller than 8 or so, and almost always fly pimped out stuff. I've got no problem with this, but just wanted to correct the picture somewhat. Dal is still part of the Auga/Houla triangle, and I never see those gangs 2 systems further up the pipe. From what I've seen the region outside of your special area of blobsville top ends at 10 man gangs - and those are pretty damn rare. -Liang Ed: I think what you seem to be missing is that nobody will go to blobsville Auga/Houla area without being in a reasonably sized gang. But when you get away from that specific area gang sizes drop off fast. OH YEAH. I'd offer some /respect to IFW for good performance and good sportsmanship in our occasional clashes, but they decided they'd rather be enormous douchebag **talkers. So no /respect for them. -- Eve Forum *** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Jones Bones Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.02 02:31:00 - [41] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Man, I wish my corp ran with pirates like Heretic Army...! LOLWUT?
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.02 02:39:00 - [42] Originally by: Jones Bones Originally by: Azelor Delaria Man, I wish my corp ran with pirates like Heretic Army...! LOLWUT? i think theyre trying to say we fly with you.... not sure tho.... Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Kri Matar Minmatar Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.02 03:03:00 - [43] Originally by: Aznwithbeard Originally by: Jones Bones Originally by: Azelor Delaria Man, I wish my corp ran with pirates like Heretic Army...! LOLWUT? i think theyre trying to say we fly with you.... not sure tho.... LOLWHUT?
Jones Bones Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.02 03:23:00 - [44] I would do anything to fly with AZN. And his beard. So soft. So sensual. Makes me feel secure.
Vonlutt Amarr	Posted - 2011.03.02 03:38:00 - [45] Edited by: Vonlutt on 02/03/2011 03:38:44 Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Confirming that you are never seen in the frontlines. And I've never seen you, who the ** are you? It's funny that you guys are bickering over this stupid **, but it comes down to this: EU TZ, Amarr outnumber Minny militia 3-1, and US TZ Minny outnumber Amarr 3-1. It's just how it is now, and it's pretty boring. Feel free to check it, but all day long the Amarr own the Minns, and all night long the Minns own the Amarr. Depending on when you log on the situation is completely different. So we need volunteers to relocate to Eu/US to fix this so we can have proper fights again, mmk? !
Ya Nor Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.02 04:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Vonlutt So we need volunteers to relocate to Eu/US to fix this so we can have proper fights again, mmk? ill relocate if you pay me. :D Chicks dig guys that play internet spaceships.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.02 04:42:00 - [47] Originally by: Jones Bones I would do anything to fly with AZN. And his beard. So soft. So sensual. Makes me feel secure. confirming my beard is soft and sensual. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.02 06:31:00 - [48] Originally by: Aznwithbeard I submit this www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=181292 while the pirates may or may not have been siding with you, you still brought 2 bassis a slew of bc and bs and tacklers (around 20 i think?) to kill a maelstrom, 3 bcs, and a cruiser. also, it took you 30 minutes to build fleet while we patiently sat there waiting. TLDR get some balls, stop the massive "NEED HELP IN HUOLA" intel calls for a 6 man gang, and lets get some good fights. While I was FCing a gang a few days back, I had my 20ish man fleet hold in an adjacent system while a few of you took on a few of us. Its called good fights, not OMGZ WHOS GOT BIGGER BLOB. Its also called escalation. Was expecting you to bring more, when you didn't i didnt. There are no good fights. There may have been weeks and months ago, but there are none. Minmatar know they overrun Amarr at night. It's when they come out. They camp Huola 24th Imperial Crusade station and smack in local, expecting a fight. They may pick off a few dumbasses every now and again, but once it hits US primetime, Amarr just falls back to carebearing and ignoring intelligence passed around in general militia chat. Hell, even intel channels are lacking in recon! And it's really no better during the AU/EU timezones! Any time we warn people of a possible fight, there's still very few willing to put their ships on the line. It's to the point, as I said, that a few Amarr FW corporations have been talking about dropping from the militia altogether and heading to the Caldari front, or simply keeping the Empire tag and heading over to fight the Gallente. No one expects good fights. The Amarr are always worried about that blob they know to be there. Also, this evening an IFW/CTRL-Q gang engaged in Huola. They brought a Vaga and several frigates, as well as a SFI. When Amarr began to - for the first time in weeks - put together a gang of comparable size (our gang consisted of eight people compared to their six), they were quick to jump back to Kourmonen. They waited and pulled together almost 20 people in order to take a 9-man gang. "Good fight," they said in local. "It wasn't good, you guys pussed out and ran!" was our response. "Couldn't leave it at equal numbers?" "We weren't taking on two battlecruisers with cruisers and frigates." It seems that Minmatards need the superior firepower as well as numbers. I remember in the Gallente militia we made it almost common to engage Caldari battleship fleets in battlecruisers, and with less numbers. And we'd win. *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.02 06:37:00 - [49] Originally by: Azelor Delaria I remember in the Gallente militia we made it almost common to engage Caldari battleship fleets in battlecruisers, and with less numbers. And we'd win. ^^ all youd have to do is slap some eccm on ur boats and roll them...... frickin gallente supertanking bcs. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.02 08:27:00 - [50] Edited by: Sneaky Noob on 02/03/2011 08:36:02 Originally by: Azelor Delaria moar emorage... more complain... whine whine whine... minmatard are bad we are good we rock blah blah blah... Srsly dude, deep cleansing breaths. It's going to be OK, I promise. Also, you're complaining a outnumbered HAC-Cruiser-Frigate gang didn't suicide itself into your station hugging BS-BC gang? Really? In retrospect, it's nice to have a new designated Amarr Complainer back on the forums. EDIT: I know why you're mad, 12 kills and 11 losses would make anyone complain. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
foksieloy Minmatar Universal Army	Posted - 2011.03.02 09:39:00 - [51] I love this thread so much. Except the part about Azn. That is his fault. _______________________ Drink Eau du Nichup«, the taste of heaven. Now available as Nichup Citrus« as well!
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.02 11:57:00 - [52] Originally by: Vonlutt Edited by: Vonlutt on 02/03/2011 03:38:44 Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Confirming that you are never seen in the frontlines. And I've never seen you, who the ** are you? It's funny that you guys are bickering over this stupid **, but it comes down to this: EU TZ, Amarr outnumber Minny militia 3-1, and US TZ Minny outnumber Amarr 3-1. It's just how it is now, and it's pretty boring. Feel free to check it, but all day long the Amarr own the Minns, and all night long the Minns own the Amarr. Depending on when you log on the situation is completely different. So we need volunteers to relocate to Eu/US to fix this so we can have proper fights again, mmk? This, for the most part. I'm EU TZ and we mostly see larger Amarr gangs, or two or three separate gangs. I know that that changes later on. Still, it's not always like that.
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.02 14:15:00 - [53] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Edited by: Sneaky Noob on 02/03/2011 08:36:02 Originally by: Azelor Delaria moar emorage... more complain... whine whine whine... minmatard are bad we are good we rock blah blah blah... Srsly dude, deep cleansing breaths. It's going to be OK, I promise. Also, you're complaining a outnumbered HAC-Cruiser-Frigate gang didn't suicide itself into your station hugging BS-BC gang? Really? In retrospect, it's nice to have a new designated Amarr Complainer back on the forums. EDIT: I know why you're mad, 12 kills and 11 losses would make anyone complain. It's good to know that you didn't even read my post and then decided to quote it, "edit" it, and then try to say, "lawl ur bad". Protip: You might ant to think before you post.
Dunn Idaho Caldari Core Impulse	Posted - 2011.03.02 16:26:00 - [54] Minnies go get a ducking blob again allready, i'm ducking bored. Until you do get a blob again, ima stick to killing germans in faction BSs, marauders and carriers ratting with black ops
Ezra Tair Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2011.03.02 17:09:00 - [55] Edited by: Ezra Tair on 02/03/2011 17:10:00 Quote: [ 2011.03.01 16:18:20 ] Azelor Delaria > So bad. [ 2011.03.01 16:18:36 ] Ezra Tair > I know right, you should bring more. [ 2011.03.01 16:18:45 ] Azelor Delaria > We're not Minnies. [ 2011.03.01 16:18:57 ] Ezra Tair > IF YOU WERE, I'D BE DEAD, THANKFULLY YOU ARE NOT. [ 2011.03.01 16:18:59 ] Azelor Delaria > We don't need 40-man blobs to kill people who aren't pusies/. [ 2011.03.01 16:19:02 ] Ezra Tair > <opps caps> [ 2011.03.01 16:19:14 ] Ezra Tair > You need caps for that :P [ 2011.03.01 16:20:44 ] Azelor Delaria > Any time you want to fave a fight, let me know. [ 2011.03.01 16:20:50 ] Azelor Delaria > Until then, keep being that ***** you are. He was upset because my smartbomb fit phoon with lows full of stabs would not engage a sacralige and two frigs. I supose my responses were not particualty flattering, but it seems he is very upset. Also if you leave the 'hot spots' of FW, you will encounter smaller gangs, such as his. Alas I was alone, and set up to kill untanked kiting bombers that run rampant thought the minmatar controled back end, and was unable to engage. I personaly don't find it at all difficult to get a fight, just harder to get one where I know I'll get a kill and not a loss. But it doesn't stop me from trying. I think the current situation is due to no small part by the lack of routes though and around the Kour-auga hotspots. Would be interesting if the "FW-region" were set up a bitmore like the caldari-gallente front.
Cearain Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.03.02 22:12:00 - [56] Good post op. I think plex fighting is always great. Even if I end up dying to a much larger force I can at least move away from the entry and try to kill the initial tackle before I die. Sometimes, rarely, I manage to do this and warp out. Either way its good fun. I really couldn't care less about occupancy but I often go in plexes because they are an obvious spot to find a fight. The rats are a real problem and I wish they would do away with them - or they would stand down as was suggested. Because I donÆt want the agro I move away from the timers and the rats. Usually they donÆt attack. I almost never actually do the plex timers I just enter them and wait for fights. I would love to see more plex fighting - even if it is not for system occupancy. It beats the hell out of gate fighting with blobs and falcons waiting on the other side. Not to mention gate camps. If you see me in local and I'm looking for a fight then look for a plex and you will likely find me. Also instead of just *****ing in here we should be supporting someone running for csm who wants to boost fw plexxing. If it is fixed it could very easily lead to awesome small gang pvp. Anyone know a candidate that this would be a priority for? -Cearain Make fw occupancy pvp instead of pve: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.02 22:29:00 - [57] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Sneaky Noob Edited by: Sneaky Noob on 02/03/2011 08:36:02 Originally by: Azelor Delaria moar emorage... more complain... whine whine whine... minmatard are bad we are good we rock blah blah blah... Srsly dude, deep cleansing breaths. It's going to be OK, I promise. Also, you're complaining a outnumbered HAC-Cruiser-Frigate gang didn't suicide itself into your station hugging BS-BC gang? Really? In retrospect, it's nice to have a new designated Amarr Complainer back on the forums. EDIT: I know why you're mad, 12 kills and 11 losses would make anyone complain. wah wah wah complain moar amarr read minny troll emo emo random swearing blah blah Im gonna do you a favor an post your kill stats from the amarr killboard. 30-12 is better than the 12 losses to 12 kills you'd have on the minny board. still this harb fit is all kinds of win. All in all, I find your anger/complaining rather subpar compared to some of the past whine-threads posted on this here forum of Warfare & Tactics. However, since at the moment you are the ONLY Amarr that sees fit to come out and complain I will overlook your delusional rants and spittle-filled raging in local and will award you ONE :GOLFCLAP: The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Arianna Satellizer	Posted - 2011.03.02 23:14:00 - [58] Originally by: David Devant Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Some crap Please post with your main so we can laugh at you in game as well. Thanks. If you look closely into your losses youll see me killing you solo and in a gang couple of times I believe. Look closely you'll see the resemblance... Let me give you a hint "Satellizer" And my post an insult??? So whats new its not like you guys will undock and start fighting now... yeah right. Cosmic miracle waiting to happen. Weve been waiting everyday at the main frontline gates every EU night. Last fun ive had was when you guys dropped your 2 nyx on our 20 bs gang+carrier on top of your BS gang. When was that 2 months ago? We lost but it was fun. And the minnies complaining about Amarr blob. Are we to blame if its easy for us to form up with a lot of people wanting to participate. Maybe, if you guys in the minny side stop forming up based on your super intel channels within intel channels, youll actually get more people to fight. Not our fault that some your guys like to warp at 0 on our gate camps then go shout BLOB! YOu guys give us no fight, were forced to gate camp. Ever noticed how we actually love your new huola kourm gatecamp trend?
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.03 01:10:00 - [59] Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Originally by: David Devant Originally by: Arianna Satellizer Some crap Please post with your main so we can laugh at you in game as well. Thanks. If you look closely into your losses youll see me killing you solo and in a gang couple of times I believe. Look closely you'll see the resemblance... Let me give you a hint "Satellizer" And my post an insult??? So whats new its not like you guys will undock and start fighting now... yeah right. Cosmic miracle waiting to happen. Weve been waiting everyday at the main frontline gates every EU night. Last fun ive had was when you guys dropped your 2 nyx on our 20 bs gang+carrier on top of your BS gang. When was that 2 months ago? We lost but it was fun. And the minnies complaining about Amarr blob. Are we to blame if its easy for us to form up with a lot of people wanting to participate. Maybe, if you guys in the minny side stop forming up based on your super intel channels within intel channels, youll actually get more people to fight. Not our fault that some your guys like to warp at 0 on our gate camps then go shout BLOB! YOu guys give us no fight, were forced to gate camp. Ever noticed how we actually love your new huola kourm gatecamp trend? HAI MAIEV <3333 *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
BacardiDesire Wolfsbrigade	Posted - 2011.03.03 01:11:00 - [60] don't join caldari, join gallente they have the same problem in EU timezone now sotf is gone --- Crazy dutch mofo
Ralnik Alpha Squad	Posted - 2011.03.03 01:15:00 - [61] Edited by: Ralnik on 03/03/2011 01:20:24 Originally by: Azelor Delaria There are no good fights. There may have been weeks and months ago, but there are none. Minmatar know they overrun Amarr at night. It's when they come out. They camp Huola 24th Imperial Crusade station and smack in local, expecting a fight. They may pick off a few dumbasses every now and again, but once it hits US primetime, Amarr just falls back to carebearing and ignoring intelligence passed around in general militia chat. Hell, even intel channels are lacking in recon! And it's really no better during the AU/EU timezones! Any time we warn people of a possible fight, there's still very few willing to put their ships on the line. It's to the point, as I said, that a few Amarr FW corporations have been talking about dropping from the militia altogether and heading to the Caldari front, or simply keeping the Empire tag and heading over to fight the Gallente. No one expects good fights. The Amarr are always worried about that blob they know to be there. Also, this evening an IFW/CTRL-Q gang engaged in Huola. They brought a Vaga and several frigates, as well as a SFI. When Amarr began to - for the first time in weeks - put together a gang of comparable size (our gang consisted of eight people compared to their six), they were quick to jump back to Kourmonen. They waited and pulled together almost 20 people in order to take a 9-man gang. "Good fight," they said in local. "It wasn't good, you guys pussed out and ran!" was our response. "Couldn't leave it at equal numbers?" "We weren't taking on two battlecruisers with cruisers and frigates." It seems that Minmatards need the superior firepower as well as numbers. I remember in the Gallente militia we made it almost common to engage Caldari battleship fleets in battlecruisers, and with less numbers. And we'd win. May I remind you that Amarr used to do the exact same thing in Auga & Dal and hell probably still does for all I know. All the station camping *gotory is why my old corp finally left the Minm/Amarr fight and went to Cal/Gal. The fighting went to absolute ** because of all the blob tards that wouldn't leave the Auga to Huola pipe line, doing little but bait and station hump. Which left very little of anything out in the back systems except for mission runners and ceptor/dram pilots that always ran at the drop of a hat. The fighting turned to crap because that's all any of you were willing to do. That's both Amarr & Minmatar whom, are to blame for your current situation.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.03 04:24:00 - [62] Stop talking about shooting and start doing it ffs. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.03 09:14:00 - [63] I'm pretty disappointed by all this in honesty. I like a nice forum smackwar as much as the next man. However no one seems to be referring to my initial post. Let me clarify... Post DT. Today. I will try to form a cruiser sized fleet to go plexing. Please come shoot at us. It will be fun. Also. I still have no idea who you are satelizerw/e. But I am impressed! Byeee
rodensteiner Amarr OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.03 13:44:00 - [64] Confirming that since joining FW, I've spent more time roaming 0.0 because there I can actually find something to shoot at! I don't have as many issues with blobs as they are somewhat the norm in EVE wherever you may go. My gripe is more about the utter lack of targets! When I do log on and hunt around FW lowsec space, I only ever seem to see the occasional stealthbomber as it jumps a gate, other than that, everyone seems to be docked Also, I could blame Azn, but that'd be too obvious... _____________________________________________ I'm horrible at PVP
Dunn Idaho Caldari Core Impulse	Posted - 2011.03.03 14:36:00 - [65] Originally by: David Devant I'm pretty disappointed by all this in honesty. I like a nice forum smackwar as much as the next man. However no one seems to be referring to my initial post. Let me clarify... Post DT. Today. I will try to form a cruiser sized fleet to go plexing. Please come shoot at us. It will be fun. Also. I still have no idea who you are satelizerw/e. But I am impressed! Byeee I find plexing as interesting as mining tbo, allthough mining pays a better isk/hour.
Machiavelli's Nemesis Angry Mustellid	Posted - 2011.03.03 14:38:00 - [66] Originally by: rodensteiner When I do log on and hunt around FW lowsec space, I only ever seem to see the occasional stealthbomber as it jumps a gate, other than that, everyone seems to be docked Outside of auga, kourm, huola there are usually very few war targets other than missionfarmers, who cloak the moment you enter local. I've started looking a bit further afield when I go roaming by myself.
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.03 14:56:00 - [67] Originally by: Dunn Idaho Originally by: David Devant I'm pretty disappointed by all this in honesty. I like a nice forum smackwar as much as the next man. However no one seems to be referring to my initial post. Let me clarify... Post DT. Today. I will try to form a cruiser sized fleet to go plexing. Please come shoot at us. It will be fun. Also. I still have no idea who you are satelizerw/e. But I am impressed! Byeee I find plexing as interesting as mining tbo, allthough mining pays a better isk/hour. It's basically a way of trying to get an even fight. Hello we are 10 cruisers sat in space come and shoot at us. Apparently no one wants to. Unless you can bait them and then warp in 10 BCs you're not interested.
BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.03 19:39:00 - [68] I completely agree David. The warzone has become rather stagnent for the EU guys. There are just so many of us, and so many seperate fleets fighting for kills. I had made a promise to invest more time in SUB BC fleets. And I have kept to my promise when I run the fleets. I understand that there are two sides to the story and we complain that you don't fight. You complain that we blob. Endless cycles Tbh I don't blame you for not fighting. If i were in your situations I would not fight something that we will never have a chance agasint. But that also, that being said, you know I don't shy away forma fight and will engage against the odd more than other :) Either way, plans are in motion within AB-C to make things more interesting in the warzone :) I think the Minmatar and Amarr will benefit greatly from it and many many good fights will ensue. P.S your ruptures suck agasint the super thin OMEN ;)
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.03 20:15:00 - [69] Edited by: Aznwithbeard on 03/03/2011 20:15:31 Originally by: BattleStar Crusader I completely agree David. The warzone has become rather stagnent for the EU guys. There are just so many of us, and so many seperate fleets fighting for kills. I had made a promise to invest more time in SUB BC fleets. And I have kept to my promise when I run the fleets. I understand that there are two sides to the story and we complain that you don't fight. You complain that we blob. Endless cycles Tbh I don't blame you for not fighting. If i were in your situations I would not fight something that we will never have a chance agasint. But that also, that being said, you know I don't shy away forma fight and will engage against the odd more than other :) Either way, plans are in motion within AB-C to make things more interesting in the warzone :) I think the Minmatar and Amarr will benefit greatly from it and many many good fights will ensue. P.S your ruptures suck agasint the super thin OMEN ;) ^^ seems legit.... like I have dropped in other topics, if you see me online, PM me, ill do my best to sc**** together a fleet and FC and we can always stage some x vs x fights..... edit: they literally blocked s-c-r-a-p-e- wth.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.03.03 23:28:00 - [70] Edited by: Mutnin on 03/03/2011 23:35:30 Originally by: Machiavelli's Nemesis Originally by: rodensteiner When I do log on and hunt around FW lowsec space, I only ever seem to see the occasional stealthbomber as it jumps a gate, other than that, everyone seems to be docked Outside of auga, kourm, huola there are usually very few war targets other than missionfarmers, who cloak the moment you enter local. I've started looking a bit further afield when I go roaming by myself. The problem is it used to not be like that. Back a year or so ago, you used to be able to get decent fights here and there roaming the back systems on the Amarr/Min front. TBH, I dunno why it changed to what it is now, but it's a shame because those back systems on the Amarr side of the map, used to be my favorite area to roam. It was a nice smallish area that was like 2 circles that made covering the whole area pretty easy in a short amount of time. That was the last area I could really solo with out the use of a scout. I used to be able to fly around in a Vexor, Arbi , Myrm or what ever and typically not run into massive blobs or gate camps and get decent fights.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.04 00:28:00 - [71] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 04/03/2011 00:30:45 Originally by: Mutnin That was the last area I could really solo with out the use of a scout. I used to be able to fly around in a Vexor, Arbi , Myrm or what ever and typically not run into massive blobs or gate camps and get decent fights. Uh, I still solo roam the whole Amarr/Minnie FW area, with Liang and other alts spanning both sides of the conflict. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. -Liang Ed: Also, I agree that the Amarr side is better for solo roams... by a little bit. :) -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Merdaneth Amarr Angel Wing.	Posted - 2011.03.04 00:35:00 - [72] Originally by: Mutnin The problem is it used to not be like that. Back a year or so ago, you used to be able to get decent fights here and there roaming the back systems on the Amarr/Min front. TBH, I dunno why it changed to what it is now, but it's a shame because those back systems on the Amarr side of the map, used to be my favorite area to roam. It was a nice smallish area that was like 2 circles that made covering the whole area pretty easy in a short amount of time. That was the last area I could really solo with out the use of a scout. I used to be able to fly around in a Vexor, Arbi , Myrm or what ever and typically not run into massive blobs or gate camps and get decent fights. Plexing has died even more, meaning less engable pilots are about. Fewer new pilots come into FW. Experienced pilots roaming in faction frigs make it a killing grounds for less experienced pilots without similar skills flying cruisers and frigates and the like. Most pilots just stay docked waiting for the other side to field a fleet. Sometimes there are less than 10 hostiles active in the entire area. Many hostiles that are active aren't willing to engage at a risk, meaning flyby's, staring contests and docking contests. I've taken to flying into hostile high-sec to find at least some targets in space. Because activity in general is dropping, its harder to find targets, which causes even less activity ad nauseam. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.03.04 00:44:00 - [73] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 04/03/2011 00:30:45 Originally by: Mutnin That was the last area I could really solo with out the use of a scout. I used to be able to fly around in a Vexor, Arbi , Myrm or what ever and typically not run into massive blobs or gate camps and get decent fights. Uh, I still solo roam the whole Amarr/Minnie FW area, with Liang and other alts spanning both sides of the conflict. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. -Liang Ed: Also, I agree that the Amarr side is better for solo roams... by a little bit. :) Yea, but you pretty much flew nothing but interceptors & slicers if I remember correctly. I'm talking about getting fights and soloing with cruisers and BC's.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.04 00:55:00 - [74] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 04/03/2011 00:55:08 Originally by: Mutnin Yea, but you pretty much flew nothing but interceptors & slicers if I remember correctly. I'm talking about getting fights and soloing with cruisers and BC's. Then you remember wrong. I mostly fly logistics ships... but solo I tend to fly anything from a Crusader to a Rupture to a Drake. I've even gone roaming about in a Hyperion a few times. -Liang Ed: Mostly Ruptures and Drakes tbh. As a flashy flashy pirate, frigs are of very limited utility to me. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
N'aryl	Posted - 2011.03.04 09:56:00 - [75] Edited by: N''aryl on 04/03/2011 09:56:46 I decided a few days ago to finally get my first PvP experience and join FW. My first pick for a base of operations, from a quick glance at the maps, was Huola. But one evening there was all I needed to know. That's not what I want. I since moved my stuff some systems farther into the FW zone. If all goes well, I'll be starting to solo roam a bit and fill the killboards with Executioner losses this weekend. Though I hope I can find some fights that last long enough to at least learn something. I could fly some sturdier stuff, but my wallet just says no. Edit: EU TZ btw.
Karl Planck Walt Disney Productions	Posted - 2011.03.04 13:59:00 - [76] All of this ranting is pretty misplaced. I find fights ALL THE TIME. FW, pirate, w/e. Its hilarious to see what seem people bring to the table and are surprised about not getting fights. A zealot with calvary next door. Pack of drams. BC fleet. Its why most of the tards don't leave korm/huola. I fly in a solo frig or cruiser and have no problem finding solo or small gangs to fight. That said, EU tz is a lot better for it. For reasons I can't quite put my finger on the minnies in the US TZ (Im US TZ) wont fight without superior number, at all. They all seem to travel in packs and refuse to fight unless they are trapped. Not quite sure what has led to this behavior, but it is a bit weak. In any case, get out in something small and go spread your plex's out. Lots of fights to be had. Amarr/Min front is A LOT better than caldari/gal front (or at least where they were 6 months ago) The only gripe I have is an old one, i wish the plexes would spawn randomly throughout the day instead of in the morning, i think this is what is really causing the blobs in the ustz, but i could be wrong. ------------------------------------------------- Don't debate with morons. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Dunn Idaho Caldari Core Impulse	Posted - 2011.03.04 14:19:00 - [77] Originally by: David Devant Originally by: Dunn Idaho Originally by: David Devant I'm pretty disappointed by all this in honesty. I like a nice forum smackwar as much as the next man. However no one seems to be referring to my initial post. Let me clarify... Post DT. Today. I will try to form a cruiser sized fleet to go plexing. Please come shoot at us. It will be fun. Also. I still have no idea who you are satelizerw/e. But I am impressed! Byeee I find plexing as interesting as mining tbo, allthough mining pays a better isk/hour. It's basically a way of trying to get an even fight. Hello we are 10 cruisers sat in space come and shoot at us. Apparently no one wants to. Unless you can bait them and then warp in 10 BCs you're not interested. Well i'm doing my part by staying away from the area for the time beeing . And you should know that i do really enjoy fighting outnumbered, cause thats where the challenge is. Back when we first joined, minnies where more numerus than amarr, and it was a blast.
Muad 'dib Caldari The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.03.04 15:16:00 - [78] It seems like the number of active pvpers is simply lower, i guess everyone is carebearing for isk since the good fights are rare atm. I dont know if thats lack of leadership, lack of isk, lack of active pilots or whatever else, it just seems really quiet this last few weeks. Meep Meep!
Saint Evonivon	Posted - 2011.03.04 15:30:00 - [79] Personally I think it would be nice if the mini's would just agree to to stop camping the kourm/huola gate 18/7 of the time. Let us move around and make small fleets to go pvp with. The "we only fight when we can gank" camp on that gate is getting old. That's my only real problem. The point has already been made about the shipping up subject so ya just the camps is my only emo rage. Sure the noobs in our militia keep throwing themselves to die at that gate and i'm sure you guys are having fun with that. Thing is though its blocking some people from wanting to operate in the area. I mean sure zero's frig fleets buzz around auga for like 2 hours and kinda shut things down but its only like 2 hours then its over. If you want to camp a gate like that plz go to null sec. There you can camp and gank till your blue in the face. Same **** with the Ezzur/Hof gate I've gone up there a few times looking to pew pew and bloody thrasher camps + big stuff support at times is just a pain. Enough with the camping please I want to hunt.
tagen young Caldari The Night Witch	Posted - 2011.03.04 15:50:00 - [80] something I've noticed on the Minnie side is the number of new recruits joining and the first thing they ask about are missions. typically there are 130-200 people online but only a small fraction of these are actually looking for pvp. The same must also apply with the Amarr. Those minmatar late night blobs that people talk about are typically 5-10 people while 20-25 amarr are being camped in Houla by a few minmatar pilots. During these quiet times it seems both sides only have a double of dozen fighters in space.
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.04 15:57:00 - [81] Thanks for starting to post Amarrian pig dogs! I wonder if part of the problem is that players are too packed in to one small area of space? If corps had some reason to spread out a bit (occupancy based PI? - something dumb like that) you might not get everyone camping Kourm/Huola all the time. As has been said before it makes it far too easy to reship to an easy counter. If gangs are out roaming then they are more likely to have a go I always feel. Would also give the local pirates a chance to redevelop perhaps as they are always under threat of a serious blobbing atm.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:34:00 - [82] Originally by: David Devant Would also give the local pirates a chance to redevelop perhaps as they are always under threat of a serious blobbing atm. Hi!! -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.04 19:10:00 - [83] dear amarr: please get more active late night USTZ. literally nothing going on last night. PS. Stop undocking carriers at huola 24th. no one cares. Guns don't kill people. onowait.
Damar Rocarion	Posted - 2011.03.05 14:26:00 - [84] Originally by: Karl Planck The only gripe I have is an old one, i wish the plexes would spawn randomly throughout the day instead of in the morning, i think this is what is really causing the blobs in the ustz, but i could be wrong. Plexes do spawn throught the day if you are willing to shift them. for example, Gallentes spend hours every day taking plexes in uncontested systems to get defensive plexes to Viriette constellation. One day they moaned that they took 47 during the night and not one spawned to right system. (47 x 15min on average = 705 minutes = 11h of work for few guys and their alts). Such is luck of the draw. So basicly if you want to plex, you need to do some work and i'm not talking about flying somewhere but really really waste your time for no gain and unrewarded (plus you have to pay rl money for it). But blame CCP mainly for "balancing plexes" and all that crap which actually turned the mechanism into even more ****** mutant than it was originally. Hell, I know that it is probably impossible for me to capture anything because they are willing to put so much effort into this at us tz when i'm sleeping but I dont really complain. Because time investment I spend doing offensive plexes, they spend at least 3-4, maybe 5 times more for it every single day (and quite often lose faction ships to pirates/militia while at it). This kind of griefing is plenty of reason for me to keep doing plexes
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.03.05 18:34:00 - [85] Edited by: Mutnin on 05/03/2011 18:35:11 Originally by: Saint Evonivon Personally I think it would be nice if the mini's would just agree to to stop camping the kourm/huola gate 18/7 of the time. Let us move around and make small fleets to go pvp with. The "we only fight when we can gank" camp on that gate is getting old. That's my only real problem. The point has already been made about the shipping up subject so ya just the camps is my only emo rage. Sure the noobs in our militia keep throwing themselves to die at that gate and i'm sure you guys are having fun with that. Thing is though its blocking some people from wanting to operate in the area. I mean sure zero's frig fleets buzz around auga for like 2 hours and kinda shut things down but its only like 2 hours then its over. If you want to camp a gate like that plz go to null sec. There you can camp and gank till your blue in the face. Same **** with the Ezzur/Hof gate I've gone up there a few times looking to pew pew and bloody thrasher camps + big stuff support at times is just a pain. Enough with the camping please I want to hunt. What you have to understand, is if it wasn't the Minie's doing it, it would be the amarr camping those gates. It's always been like that and probably always will. Which ever side happens to hold the biggest blob tends to be trhe side that camps and kills the noobs. I can remember coutless times of having Amarr fleets pretty much doing nothing but camping dal, auga, ama, kourm gates 18/7 as well. The problem is people are lazy and they want lots of risk less kill mails, so they tend to do what gets them that in the easiest way. Sadly, there are very few people in this game that are up for actually hunting out targets and taking risks in engagements that aren't a certain win. Everyone wants to play EVE on arcade mode with the easy switch turned on and then brag about how awesome they are.
Saint Evonivon	Posted - 2011.03.05 19:39:00 - [86] I agree with you Mutnin, I would still have no part of that though, really dislike long camps like that. I always felt gate's were a poor mechanic in the game, Rather have them removed and all ships have jump drives and you would have to lock onto the celestial bodies in the systems and you would jump to those. Then slow down the warp speed and have warp window so you could chase after things you picked up on your "active radar" and of course frigs and such would still be fastest and best for grabbing targets in warp and in normal combat. Have things like HIC's be really fast to and able to pull entire fleets out of warp, course the enemy fleet could keep an eye on their radar and send ceptors or something to intercept. Some sort of mechanic like that would be a lot more fun to me and more tactical. One can dream right hhehehehe. But on the other hand last night they didn't camp all night and hey guess what we got some fleets out and had some pew pew. Was a nice change for once.
Predator Elite The Institution. Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2011.03.05 22:50:00 - [87] As far as the gate camping goes that is just showing that the enemy is looking for fights so go kill them. I don't see how that would really intfere with being able to put a gang togther saint, hell I used to do it all the time.
Bringer Maker of Man Cerberus.	Posted - 2011.03.06 03:08:00 - [88] The main issue for USTZ for Amarr is the low activity level and the fact that the Minny just camp the Houla/Kourmo gate the whole time and if you do counter them they just bring in a gang that is 3 times bigger than your current gang. Another issue is even with a fair fight does go on the minny pilot has to have his 30 man fleet warp in to him so they can all assure they get on the KM. Sadly can't counter a gang that is bigger than you if you do not have no more people to pull from. Sadly the minny won't change as they love their KM, and same for the day time Amarr camping, they love their KM and won't stop. People are still in that mindset that they need 1000 KM and only 10 death to look cool even if all those KM have 20+ on them. Sadly it seems that FW is either people wanting to *** missions and make big isk or the KM *** and not interested in having fun.
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.06 03:53:00 - [89] Originally by: Bringer The main issue for USTZ for Amarr is the low activity level and the fact that the Minny just camp the Houla/Kourmo gate the whole time and if you do counter them they just bring in a gang that is 3 times bigger than your current gang. Another issue is even with a fair fight does go on the minny pilot has to have his 30 man fleet warp in to him so they can all assure they get on the KM. Sadly can't counter a gang that is bigger than you if you do not have no more people to pull from. Sadly the minny won't change as they love their KM, and same for the day time Amarr camping, they love their KM and won't stop. People are still in that mindset that they need 1000 KM and only 10 death to look cool even if all those KM have 20+ on them. Sadly it seems that FW is either people wanting to *** missions and make big isk or the KM *** and not interested in having fun. Pretty much have to echo these sentiments. Today I logged on to about 30 Minnies camping the usual Huola station, and smack talking in local about how Amarr were "noobs" and the like. Now I'm cool with smack talk. In fact, I take it as a badge of honor every time I get a hatemail for smacking so hard in local someone actually threatens to report me to the FBI for cyberbullying (I still have that one!). However, if you truly want a fight, stop bringing massive gangs that you know no one wants to go up against, because it's a guaranteed assbeating. Smaller gangs means more fights. Sure, you can pull off a few kills of noobs trying to undock, but that means nothing. And obviously the same applies to the Amarr. *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.06 06:48:00 - [90] Originally by: Azelor Delaria bla bla bla im an internet tough guy har har har watch me cyberbully you u are all blobbers wah wah And obviously the same applies to the Amarr. you FINALLY said something that makes sense, albeit after yet another post of you complaining and explaining that your anger rage smack is in fact, for teh lulz. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.03.06 11:34:00 - [91] this whole thread is lulz, Sneaky ------------------------------------------------ Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.06 15:54:00 - [92] Originally by: Eran Mintor this whole thread is lulz, Sneaky It's also for me to troll SneakyScrub, because apparently it's not hard. Is Sneaky like...the HiddenSnake or Damar/Bad Messenger of the Amarr/Minmatar front? I mean, he's following the same posting style, albeit without the "OMG CCP FIER ALL TEH PPLZ IN CHAREG OF TEH FW OMG" posts. But it's entertaining to troll, nonetheless. ;) *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.06 17:15:00 - [93] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Eran Mintor this whole thread is lulz, Sneaky It's also for me to troll SneakyScrub, because apparently it's not hard. Is Sneaky like...the HiddenSnake or Damar/Bad Messenger of the Amarr/Minmatar front? I mean, he's following the same posting style, albeit without the "OMG CCP FIER ALL TEH PPLZ IN CHAREG OF TEH FW OMG" posts. But it's entertaining to troll, nonetheless. ;) son, when you post delusional walls of text complaining and chestbeating it's not called trolling. (it's called getting trolled) The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.06 17:40:00 - [94] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Eran Mintor this whole thread is lulz, Sneaky It's also for me to troll SneakyScrub, because apparently it's not hard. Is Sneaky like...the HiddenSnake or Damar/Bad Messenger of the Amarr/Minmatar front? I mean, he's following the same posting style, albeit without the "OMG CCP FIER ALL TEH PPLZ IN CHAREG OF TEH FW OMG" posts. But it's entertaining to troll, nonetheless. ;) son, when you post delusional walls of text complaining and chestbeating it's not called trolling. (it's called getting trolled) Son, when you can't stop yourself from quoting me a minimum of three consecutive times and changing my post to something you can understand, it's called getting trolled. *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Oddymandius Minmatar Red Federation	Posted - 2011.03.06 21:22:00 - [95] Originally by: Azelor Delaria lolitrollu
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.03.06 21:39:00 - [96] Originally by: Garmon no U! ------------------------------------------------ Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe
Jones Bones Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.07 05:33:00 - [97] ITT: People mad.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.07 06:12:00 - [98] Originally by: Jones Bones ITT: People mad. confirmed Guns don't kill people. onowait.
N'aryl Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2011.03.07 10:19:00 - [99] Once you leave Huola/Kourm behind, it's actually not that bad EU TZ wise. I could have had quite some fights in the contested systems around Arzad. Though more with pirates than Minnies it seems. Sadly I had to evade most of them because my paper-thin Executioner wouldn't stand a chance against all those Jags chasing me. (Sorry to those) I really need to save up for some sturdier stuff so I can take these fights on. Finally got careless and died to a Rupture. So my first PvP fight ever was a really balanced. I think I even managed to lock him and fire one volley before going down in flames The guy didn't post the killmail though I had quite some fun and Huola won't see me again that soon.
Mitara Newelle Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2011.03.07 15:34:00 - [100] Late US tz is rough for Amarr, the Minnies have quite a few more people on, and a lot of them are very experienced: IFW, Autocannons, etc. We still get some fun fleet fights once in a while though. Smaller gang and solo fights are harder to come by. You can still get them in plexes if you're lucky. For myself I know I'm partly to blame as after nearly 3 years of plexing I am finding it very hard to do anymore. I'm starting to go out a bit more now lately, but meh. Blobs win fights(when they happen :p) it's a fact of life we must all deal with. Everyone does it, no one is innocent. Regarding Arzad - The initial minnie force was turned away if I remember correctly, but they simply came back in larger numbers and way larger ships :). I was trying to shift a plex back into Arzad before they took the bunker, but that was a no-go. The scarier system falling was Ezzara in my opinion. I don't think anyone on the Amarr side even knew it went vulnerable, which is totally sad.
rodensteiner Amarr OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.03.07 19:52:00 - [101] Originally by: N'aryl The guy didn't post the killmail though It's here: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12706722 _____________________________________________ I'm horrible at PVP
David Devant Gallente CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.07 20:05:00 - [102] Edited by: David Devant on 07/03/2011 20:05:35 Originally by: Mitara Newelle Late US tz is rough for Amarr, the Minnies have quite a few more people on, and a lot of them are very experienced: IFW, Autocannons, etc. We still get some fun fleet fights once in a while though. Smaller gang and solo fights are harder to come by. You can still get them in plexes if you're lucky. For myself I know I'm partly to blame as after nearly 3 years of plexing I am finding it very hard to do anymore. I'm starting to go out a bit more now lately, but meh. Blobs win fights(when they happen :p) it's a fact of life we must all deal with. Everyone does it, no one is innocent. Regarding Arzad - The initial minnie force was turned away if I remember correctly, but they simply came back in larger numbers and way larger ships :). I was trying to shift a plex back into Arzad before they took the bunker, but that was a no-go. The scarier system falling was Ezzara in my opinion. I don't think anyone on the Amarr side even knew it went vulnerable, which is totally sad. Not to downplay the acheivments of our uber US TZ in taking the bunker at Arzad, but I would like to point out that the plex battle is also being consistently won in the EU. Some quality resistance would be nice? P.S. Would someone send N'aryl a decent punisher fit ffs
Jones Bones Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.07 20:21:00 - [103] Originally by: Mitara Newelle very experienced: Autocannons, lolwut?
King Rothgar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.07 20:58:00 - [104] As with any corp, autoz has some highly experienced guys and some nooblets. The same could be said for heratics, I've seen ya'll do your share of dumb ****. Autoz does have a reputation for leeroying I think, but that's not a mark of low skill or inexperience. There is a big difference between accidentally attacking a much stronger force and doing so deliberately for the lols. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.
Jones Bones Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.07 21:03:00 - [105] Dude, Minnies aren't going to let you into their SC fleets. No matter how many carriers you suicide.
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.07 21:43:00 - [106] Originally by: Jones Bones Dude, Minnies aren't going to let you into their SC fleets. No matter how many carriers you suicide. Will they let me into them??? :D *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.07 21:53:00 - [107] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Jones Bones Dude, Minnies aren't going to let you into their SC fleets. No matter how many carriers you suicide. Will they let me into them??? :D no. u mad. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Azelor Delaria Caldari Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.07 21:58:00 - [108] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Jones Bones Dude, Minnies aren't going to let you into their SC fleets. No matter how many carriers you suicide. Will they let me into them??? :D no. u mad. imsopist. *** * * *** "No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy."
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.08 01:23:00 - [109] Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: Azelor Delaria Originally by: Jones Bones Dude, Minnies aren't going to let you into their SC fleets. No matter how many carriers you suicide. Will they let me into them??? :D no. u mad. imsopist. broll cory sto The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Kijo Rikki Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees	Posted - 2011.03.08 03:02:00 - [110] This looks like the right place to ask who controls Auga now. > WHILE SIG<AWESOME DO LOOP there is no escape from my crappy sig.
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.08 14:39:00 - [111] Originally by: Kijo Rikki This looks like the right place to ask who controls Auga now. Matt Damon! \o/ The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Kijo Rikki Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees	Posted - 2011.03.08 15:11:00 - [112] I don't know how to respond to that. I mean, I still have somewhat valuable ships stationed there, I think....what would Matt Damon do if I tried to sneak in and get them? The man wrote Good Will Hunting, you can't possibly hope to outsmart someone like that.
Shoghi Effendi Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.08 17:01:00 - [113] Originally by: Mitara Newelle Late US tz is rough for Amarr, the Minnies have quite a few more people on, and a lot of them are very experienced: Autocannons, etc. She said it, it's an internet truth now. I do think the Minnies need to back off Huola at night, though. Let them get some confidence and numbers up so we actually have something to shoot at.
King Rothgar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.08 20:28:00 - [114] Have to agree with the above. It is in the minnie militia's best interest to let the amarr leave the huola station for at least 30 seconds before we stomp them. Fortunately there are plenty of other targets to go after. My vote goes to booting heretic army out of amamake. I have nothing against pirates but they need to clean up those frozen corpses around the osso gate. I hate litterbugs. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.
Bomberlocks Minmatar CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.08 20:46:00 - [115] Originally by: King Rothgar Have to agree with the above. It is in the minnie militia's best interest to let the amarr leave the huola station for at least 30 seconds before we stomp them. Fortunately there are plenty of other targets to go after. My vote goes to booting heretic army out of amamake. I have nothing against pirates but they need to clean up those frozen corpses around the osso gate. I hate litterbugs.
Jengi Gotsen Gallente BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2011.03.08 21:05:00 - [116] Originally by: Kijo Rikki I don't know how to respond to that. I mean, I still have somewhat valuable ships stationed there, I think....what would Matt Damon do if I tried to sneak in and get them? The man wrote Good Will Hunting, you can't possibly hope to outsmart someone like that. Contract them to me. I'll handle Matt Damon.
Jones Bones Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.08 21:39:00 - [117] Originally by: King Rothgar My vote goes to booting heretic army out of amamake. we ded?
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.08 23:54:00 - [118] Originally by: Jones Bones Originally by: King Rothgar My vote goes to booting heretic army out of amamake. we ded? u ded. :( -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers	Posted - 2011.03.09 09:11:00 - [119] I think at the moment the Minmatar need a massive boost in the Eu TZ. Another corp like Dark rising and some FC's who arent afraid to fight against the odds. Over the last 3 weeks I have logged on roughly every other day in the EU prime time. Only to find that there are no Minmatar in space, anywhere. The only people you can find are the voody fan club who seem to have no will or desire lead the minmatar Ii know bara can FC). ATm the only active minmtar seem to be the Amarr pilots who got bored and made the switch. Auga, the once great strong hold of so many minmtar, has become something of a deserted pub/bar; where you have us amarr sat drinking our selves into an early night. I know the minmatar US tz is amazing and tbh i wish i could line up against you and fire my guns. But time zones are a 13itch. My prediction for the next few months will be that the Amarr will become bored and stagnant, loose a load of systems and become less active. Around summer time the Minmatar will out number the Amarr. Then towards the end of summer the Amarr will regain the systems resulting in regaining space superiority and the cycle will start again. How do I get these predictions???? Its no crystal ball. Its been happening since the start of factionwar. TL:DR MINMTAR NEED MORE CORPS/PILOTS/FC'S
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.10 02:52:00 - [120] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader TL:DR MINMTAR NEED MORE CORPS/PILOTS/FC'S You mean EU TZ Minmatar, right? 'Cause US-AU TZ already has too many. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Vordak Kallager Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.10 04:17:00 - [121] I volunteer Dolmant to lead suicide Reaper fleets in US TZ so Amarr at least has a chance of getting a few kills.
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.10 04:36:00 - [122] Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: BattleStar Crusader TL:DR MINMTAR NEED MORE CORPS/PILOTS/FC'S You mean EU TZ Minmatar, right? 'Cause US-AU TZ already has too many. I notice you aren't switching factions..... -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Mara Abraham Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2011.03.10 04:41:00 - [123] Greetings: As it stands now, there continues to be a lot of solo to fleet opportunity for Amarr and Minmatar. I stand with the Minmatar freedom warriors (fw) who are working towards a complete break down of the ability for the Amarr slave lords to keep a single slave on their hands; and even so, I don't want the Amarr Militia so demoralized they hide. One of the nice things in the past few days is that the Amarr seem to be picking up the pieces of a large number of defeats; and in the process a number of worth while fights have taken place. Thank you. --- Mara Abraham http://www.factionalwarfare.info
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.10 05:48:00 - [124] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Sneaky Noob Originally by: BattleStar Crusader TL:DR MINMTAR NEED MORE CORPS/PILOTS/FC'S You mean EU TZ Minmatar, right? 'Cause US-AU TZ already has too many. I notice you aren't switching factions..... I notice you aren't either. The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.10 18:22:00 - [125] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 10/03/2011 18:22:12 Originally by: Sneaky Noob I notice you aren't either. Both factions already shoot me. I don't see how me switching sides would give anyone more targets. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
Sneaky Noob Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.03.10 19:49:00 - [126] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 10/03/2011 18:22:12 Originally by: Sneaky Noob I notice you aren't either. Both factions already shoot me. I don't see how me switching sides would give anyone more targets. -Liang go FC the amarr us tz. plox. that would help both sides... The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
Liang Nuren	Posted - 2011.03.10 22:05:00 - [127] Originally by: Sneaky Noob go FC the amarr us tz. plox. that would help both sides... I don't think a 4 man corp would do well leading the entire Amarr side of the FW. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
failpirate CTRL-Q	Posted - 2011.03.11 00:23:00 - [128] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQvB6OjHOU -- this is my sig
Dunn Idaho Caldari Core Impulse	Posted - 2011.03.11 01:08:00 - [129] I lead a fleet today, i did not get any fights. You Bastards! Now its gonna be months before i lead a fleet again...
Jones Bones Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.11 01:27:00 - [130] Originally by: Dunn Idaho I lead a fleet today, i did not get any fights. We totes were gonna fight you. But then.... ABADDONS EVERYWHERE
Regis Nex	Posted - 2011.03.11 08:34:00 - [131] Oh the irony... heretics complaining about being outumbered ^_^ Booboo Bear Pew Pew
Jones Bones Heretic Army	Posted - 2011.03.11 14:19:00 - [132] Originally by: Regis Nex Oh the irony... heretics complaining about being outumbered ^_^ We're a group of homoerotic, risk-adverse pvpers. DONT BLAME ME BECAUSE IM BEAUTIFUL!
foksieloy Minmatar Universal Army	Posted - 2011.03.11 14:40:00 - [133] Originally by: Jones Bones Originally by: Regis Nex Oh the irony... heretics complaining about being outumbered ^_^ We're a group of homoerotic, risk-adverse pvpers. DONT BLAME ME BECAUSE IM BEAUTIFUL! Hard to notice when you surround yourself with even more beautiful people. _______________________ Find out whome to vote for in the CSM. Match your answers with the candidates.
Dunn Idaho Caldari Core Impulse	Posted - 2011.03.11 17:39:00 - [134] Originally by: Jones Bones Originally by: Dunn Idaho I lead a fleet today, i did not get any fights. We totes were gonna fight you. But then.... ABADDONS EVERYWHERE It was mostly geddons, and beeing militia, most where failfitted i belive, you would have ****d since you had quardians ! I'm hearby on stirke until someone fights me
Whimsical One	Posted - 2011.03.11 17:47:00 - [135] Originally by: Mara Abraham I stand with the Minmatar freedom warriors (fw) who are working towards a complete break down of the ability for the Amarr slave lords to keep a single slave on their hands; and even so, I don't want the Amarr Militia so demoralized they hide. I put on my robe and wizard hat.
Vonlutt Amarr	Posted - 2011.03.13 04:16:00 - [136] Edited by: Vonlutt on 13/03/2011 04:16:01 I dunno how to put this, but both militias are basically the same. What Amarr EU tz pilots experience is what Min US tz pilots experience. There is absolutely no real difference between the militias. During the day it sucks to be minnys, at night it sucks to be amarrios. P.S. your strike is counterproductive dunn !

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