Each EW weapon as such is used for debuffing a enemy ship if used right most people are going to call OP about it but why so much on ECM?

So i ask again why are people so butt hurt about it?

It is easy to counter(:) use drones / FOF missiles / sensor damps and possibly some others(.) its not the best EW(.) its a good one(,) i admit that(,) but can be countered if you work around countering it.

I like these nerf ECM threads. It is like ECM whiners has been touched inappropriately and they were defenseless against it.

I love stunlock (general MMO term for what ECM does) threads, watching all the people who abuse it make snarky comments about those they kill with it because they're too chicken**** to try a head on fight.

Note, I have nothing against stuns, but stunlock-until-dead-with-no-realistic-counter is ALWAYS a bad idea.

Try again. I like to win and I rather win through dastardly tactics than lose with elegance.

To those that cling to that silly notion of honor in fights, you are as much of a relic as the ideals that you desperately cling to.

Read again, I have no problems with stuns, they're a great tactic... but stunlock until death? Yes, it is part of the game a present, but it shouldn't be, it shouldn't be part of ANY game.

Stunning a target and taking advantage of that to put them in a position they can't win is tactics. Stunlocking a target until they're dead and unable to do a single thing about it is just a cheep shot.

ECM doesn't immobilize (propulsion jamming does that) which stun locking is about, ECM is more like a blind.

Perhaps you confused the two. Whiners tend to confuse things, you see.

Stunlocks = being unable to do anything, take any action. And while yes indeed you can still move while ECMed (ohh my aren't we lucky?) You can still do nothing to fight back against your opponent.

And am I whining? I guess from the point of view of someone who routinely exploits and exploitable mechanic I am.

I'm not against ECM, I'm against ECM rendering a target helpless from the start to the end of a fight with no realistic recourse once it starts.

False.

FoF missiles. Smartbombs. Drones (especially sentries).

These are a few of the things you can still utilize if jammed.

Also, not unironically, ECM Burst.

You can also warp away. We're talking ECM here, not a combo of ECM + Point.

Think about it.

Ohh yes, a 6KM ECM burst is SOOOOO useful when you're ECMed from 50+ KM away (not, last figure pulled from my ass, don't know the range of ECM unites but I'm sure it's a LOT further away than n ECM burst)

well unless you're up against a scorpian I don't see a battleship being about to chance down an EWAR ship to get it in ECM blast range... and I can't imagine most would be stupid enough to initiate an ECM attack within ECM blast range of a battleship.

All other ewar modules attack a specific ship function - either tracking, warp, speed, CAP etc etc. Jammers take out every offensive module permanently all at once. No other module or weapon comes close to doing so much to an opponent. Of course it's overpowered, imbalanced, broken.

It's simply an "I win" button, and those who defend it so much know it.

So i ask again why are people so butt hurt about it?

For all the complainers, I advice you to fly ECM ships and see how it performs. It's not as gamechanging as it seems & due to ECM's reputation, almost any NON-jammed ship will be charging for you, so you better get ready to flee the moment you enter the battlefield.

Lets say that in ajn optimal case, I manage to jam 4 at once (very unlikely, but assume I use racial & manage to jam one of each) I can be assured that next cycle, at least 1 perhaps even up to 3 (4 if unlucky) will break the ecm. If they're smart, they started moving towards me, (or getting ready to jump)

ECM boats are amongst the most fragile as wel, as they need to sacrifice alot of tank to be effective.

These days, I fly my Curse, more effective & less visible effect, meaning players don't charge after me so easely.

It is easy to counter use drones / FOF missile's / sensor damps and possibly some others its not the best EW its a good one i admit that but can be countered if you work around countering it.

Each EW weapon as such is used for debuffing a enamy ship if used right most people are going to call OP about it but why so much on ECM?

So i ask again why are people so butt hurt about it?

ECCM - Midslot
Sensor Backup Array - Lowslot

Would you fit TEs/TCs if they had no effect on your turrets?

It is easy to counter use drones / FOF missile's / sensor damps and possibly some others its not the best EW its a good one i admit that but can be countered if you work around countering it.

Each EW weapon as such is used for debuffing a enamy ship if used right most people are going to call OP about it but why so much on ECM?

So i ask again why are people so butt hurt about it?

please stop with your weak arguments and just fit F.O.F missiles to your deimos and HTFU.

please stop with your weak arguments and just fit F.O.F missiles to your deimos and HTFU.