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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:02:00 -
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CCP Mort is bringing us our latest dev blog in our series of technical dev blogs. Go here and read Introducing steps to improve network performace of EVE: THE FCP.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us |
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Zirse
Minmatar ZED Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:04:00 -
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First!
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Vuk Lau
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:21:00 -
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Interesting read (and in before Trebor)
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haav0c
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:43:00 -
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In after Zymurgist. why no pretty graph?
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deathpain
Gallente The Graduates
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:46:00 -
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I would be interested to see how well this actually improoves our end game play. So yeah, graph please lol. |
Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:47:00 -
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Loving the super technical dev blogs of late. Keep them coming.
However, one complaint. I DEMAND A GRAPH! And make it pretty! -----------------------------------
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Men Who Stare At Gates
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:50:00 -
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So we have Kaffeine and FCP, now wheres ma' Pizza :)
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:50:00 -
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So you added a BrainÖ hamster. Remember to feed the guy.
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Ms Michigan
Gallente Aviation Professionals for EVE
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:54:00 -
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All I have to say is "WOW!" and Holy cool Batman. This is Epic. For companies that can afford and run progs like EVE this will make a huge difference is my guess.
Talk about tackling latency head on. With this and source code/logic optimization I get goose bumps.
Good stuff CCP. o7
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Estimated Prophet
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Posted - 2011.03.23 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Estimated Prophet on 23/03/2011 12:56:42 Edited by: Estimated Prophet on 23/03/2011 12:55:40
Originally by: Joe SMASH I DEMAND A GRAPH! And make it pretty!
Here's my before, from Australia: http://i.imgur.com/vEeyH.png
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Austherus Sialomaet
Amarr Sialomaet Institute of Dark Arts
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:00:00 -
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I love how CCP tell us what is happening. Other companies are always like "We have a problem, wait for the fix...".
Explaining this kind of thing is not going to fix the issues, but it makes us trust in CCP
Sorry for the bad english
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ChromeStriker
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:00:00 -
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Would someone like to sum this up into something for us who think the internet is a magik cable you put into your computer? will this mean i get instant connects? or fast station docks??
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Levitikon
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:01:00 -
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Did you just become a tier1 ISP, or some network engineer made an embarrassing mistake in his devblog?:P
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Allan Glass
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:06:00 -
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Will this have a secondary location to report back to that isn't anywhere near the CCP datacenter/AS?
I remember a month or two ago, I was out on a roam and suddenly a good portion of the fleet was knocked offline because there was a transient routing issue affecting US west-coast Comcast Users. Everything CCP-related was unreachable, not even pingable for upwards of 20 minutes. Would FCP even be able to report back about such a problem if it occurs again? |
Levitikon
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:14:00 -
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FCP doesn't report to you, it reports to server.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:16:00 -
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Bahh while I was logging in I noticed this on the side thingy, read it as "introducing ships to improve network performance of eve" which sounded pretty cool.
Eitherway great work captain .
Im not Bismaru, im better! |
Thoraxe Rig
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: ChromeStriker Would someone like to sum this up into something for us who think the internet is a magik cable you put into your computer? will this mean i get instant connects? or fast station docks??
If I read it right, this should make our connections more reliable. Perhaps faster?
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Nayette Ellis Dalogne
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:17:00 -
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Awesome stuff! *enjoys the nerdgasm*
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Dek'athor
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:24:00 -
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UUuuuuuu, that sounds like a rather big improvement
*feeds the network hamsters a tasty snack*
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Abramul
Gallente StarFleet Enterprises -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Abramul on 23/03/2011 13:39:20 I assume it's not possible for the end-user (or the game client) to force a specific route?
(Nice work, by the way. Hadn't realized the internet was this blind; suppose it's probably a result of it being far larger than originally expected)
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Helothane
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: Helothane on 23/03/2011 13:44:48 I'd have to look up the product literature, but it sounds like FCP dynamically decides which networks to announce via what interfaces. As long as the interval that it can choose to change announcements is large enough, I think it sounds like a good solution. BGP does not do quick, dynamic changes well.
NB: The exception to the rule of "Tier 1 ISPs don't pay for connections, others pay them" is when they are connecting to other tier 1 ISPs. The assumption there is that the traffic from another tier 1 will be more or less balanced with the traffic coming from the other side of the connection that tier 1 ISPs don't charge each other. The problem comes in when a tier 1 ISP decides that another company is no longer a tier 1 ISP and wants to charge them...
Quote: I assume it's not possible for the end-user (or the game client) to force a specific route?
No, you cannot. Routing between ASs is controlled by the AS path, and as an end user, you have no control of that. There are only 65000 unique AS numbers for the entire Internet (65000 - 65535 are like the 192.168.x.y IP addresses, they are not supposed to be publically routable), so for CCP to have its own is quite something.
(Former network engineer for a US Tier 1 ISP, back when there were the 'Big 7')
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ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:43:00 -
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Anxiously awaiting how Murphy will frack up this one.
BrainÖ hamsters 4tw! \o/
______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:46:00 -
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In This Devblog: Sexism. 'He'? |
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Caldari Cryo Innovations Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.03.23 13:56:00 -
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Good writeup. You should consider having Ars Technica re-post this, or provide this as an article there. --------------------------------------------- U.S. Diplomat Cryo Innovations
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.03.23 14:00:00 -
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Will FCP be incorporated into the client in any way? Will the client try and modify the path back to the server, even if it just tries to copy the server-to-client path?
Is this a big issue with large fleet lag? That is, once in place will the size of a lag free fleet fight go up?
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Charles37
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Posted - 2011.03.23 14:02:00 -
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I love the tech blogs like this one and the previous one with lots of gory technical details. Keep them coming!
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Commander Azrael
Red Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.23 14:39:00 -
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Dammit!
When is another position going to be become available on your network team!
Nice dev blog
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Ay Liz
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.03.23 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ay Liz on 23/03/2011 14:52:52 Can this partially fix the problems a lot of players had in the last months with random disconnects? If that FCP thing detects a lot of packet loss or high latency on a route, for example, somewhere at Telia, will it try to reroute us through a usually worse but in that case better route? It kinda sounds like that and it would be awesome.
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Jacqueline Coeur
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.23 15:18:00 -
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Chribba is known for not quitting EvE with the "ESC menu" but by simply tinkering with his BGP configuration (of course Chribba has BGP peering, his AS is the only known one that is both non-numeric and 16 nibbles instead of 16 bits. It is, of course, VELDSPAR).
Internap's Flow Control Platform is rumored to be so effective that Chribba's EvE client will stay connected no matter how much tinkering he does with his BGP config. In fact it'll even stay connected during downtime.
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Lord's Prophet
Totally Abstract O X I D E
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Posted - 2011.03.23 15:19:00 -
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This devblog is just another step towards the EVE cluster becoming self-aware and killing us all. ________
Originally by: CCP Mitnal If I ever need an alligator at 3am, I now know where to find one!
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