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Capitol One	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:37:00 - [31] Quote: "General" the logs shown here only prove the lack of ability of your pirate members under GCC. For clarification Ishukone-Raata first engaged Wolfsbrigade/Four Horsemen/COLD-Wing on the Kedama gate in Tama during a patrol. The combined Protectorate fleet engaged Ishukone-Raata forces first with a Abaddon/Guardian fleet, Ishukone-Raata was forced to retreat due to standing error's as members of these organizations showed as positive standings ensuring our forces effectiveness would be low. Once diplomacy was attempted the answers were very concerning after a Protectorate Fleet who we thought were allies engaged us by going GCC responded with "It will be a good fight!".. and "These pilots do not know who you are, so expect to be engaged." This engagement is grounds for KOS under Ishukone-Raata NRDS standing system, and was enacted several minutes after the attack. The fighting after the engagement resulting in losses on the Caldari Militia side is due to piracy on your part, it is laughable to listen to you calling us pirates. We have escorted neutral Orca's and ships through Tama on several occasions where forces like your own would destroy them. You can quote words from true Caldari, who know what Honor, and Duty stand for.. it still does not give you the right. These things are earned not given upon birth as a Caldari. Mr. Revenant. I'm afraid the fault lies with you. Despite your so called "blue standings", you had conveniantly forgotten to engage in proper diplomacy and inform Wolfsbrigade leadership, or anyone connected to our corporation for that matter, that you wished to have the privilege of blue standings. Therefore, to members of our own patrol, who had no knowledge of your precious false claims of fighting for the State, they could not diffrientate you from any other regular Pirate. In fact, it was The Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive who first engaged members of the Caldari Milita, the fighting arm of the Caldari State in its war efforts against the Gallente Federation, in an ignorant and baseless arguement of justice. Let me clarify. After being attacked and killed by pirates unafilliated with the Caldari milita, a corp known as Four Ponies of the Apocalypse, John Revenant, in his confusion, decides to attack a member of Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, a corporation that is coincidentally apart of the Caldari Milita. This leads to a surge of intelligence reports of "Pirate Activity in Tama", in this case: I-RED. A mixed fleet of a number of Milita corps assembles to counter the Pirate threat in Tama (I-RED), and finally engages on the Kedama gate at which point I-RED disengages. Later on, by which time I-RED has lost its GCC, the Milita fleet encounters the former pirate fleet again. And so, in a valiant act of selflessness, the pilots of the Milita fleet decide to take a standing hit with the Law in order to teach the I-RED that you do not commit piracy on Milita members unscathed. This would be the so called "piracy" you accuse us of. So you see, it is clearly by your actions that we find ourselves in this situation, after all, you draw first blood. Quote: You can quote words from true Caldari, who know what Honor, and Duty stand for.. it still does not give you the right. These things are earned not given upon birth as a Caldari. Quote: These things are earned not given... It is as if you take the words right out of my mouth. We earn our honor by enlisting and fighting for our State. Where is your honor? You hide yourselfs in null security space, while basing out of Gallente space in the sole purpose to strike against Caldari Milita corporations. You speak of honor but you have none. Hypocrit, that is what you are. In the end it comes down to the fact that you fight alongside Gallente Federation Milita corps against Caldari State Milita corps. You attack first, you declare war first. It is clear who is the aggressor here. Capitol One Brigadier General
TomHorn Caldari New Eden T2 Component Wholesalers	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:41:00 - [32] Everyone knows that [I-RED] are helping to fight against piracy in lawless space , and are caldari loyalists. If Wolfsbrigade are in the caldari militia and engaged [I-RED] then they should be ashamed of themselves. TH (Caldari loyalist retired sheriff The Forge region)
JT133	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:44:00 - [33] Originally by: John Revenent "General" the logs shown here only prove the lack of ability of your pirate members under GCC. For clarification Ishukone-Raata first engaged Wolfsbrigade/Four Horsemen/COLD-Wing on the Kedama gate in Tama during a patrol. The combined Protectorate fleet engaged Ishukone-Raata forces first with a Abaddon/Guardian fleet, Ishukone-Raata was forced to retreat due to standing error's as members of these organizations showed as positive standings ensuring our forces effectiveness would be low. Once diplomacy was attempted the answers were very concerning after a Protectorate Fleet who we thought were allies engaged us by going GCC responded with "It will be a good fight!".. and "These pilots do not know who you are, so expect to be engaged." This engagement is grounds for KOS under Ishukone-Raata NRDS standing system, and was enacted several minutes after the attack. The fighting after the engagement resulting in losses on the Caldari Militia side is due to piracy on your part, it is laughable to listen to you calling us pirates. We have escorted neutral Orca's and ships through Tama on several occasions where forces like your own would destroy them. You can quote words from true Caldari, who know what Honor, and Duty stand for.. it still does not give you the right. These things are earned not given upon birth as a Caldari. Should your emphasis on General be considered further evidence of your treason against the Caldari State by not recognising an official title given by the State Protectorate? Where was your diplomacy when these pilots engaged you? Did you not inform them of the apparent blue standing, or do you reserve that only for fleets which pose a threat? The information you have supplied is inconsistent with that which actually happened. To shorten the facts, you engaged The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse by going GCC in Tama. It is most probable that you, John Revenent, mistook them for the Four Little Ponies Of the Apocalypse. Furthermore, your attempt at so-called "diplomacy" is not what you delinate it to be - you closed the proper channels, and only opened them to attempt to minimize your losses while taking your desired path through Caldari-monitored space. With regard to piracy, the fact of the matter is that your presence in systems that we enforce Caldari law in almost always results in you being flagged as criminals globally by CONCORD. You are the pirates bringing unqualified tyranny and piracy to Black Rise. Yes, honour and duty are earned - "Brigadier General is the most senior commissioned rank in the State Protectorate. It ranks above Strike Commander." I think I need not say anymore of this particular issue. Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores What's the deal, JT133? You certainly don't have that Caldari jaw; you know how your glorious leader, Tibus Heth, hates ethnic Gallenteans. Do not believe everything you see, Mr. Inhonores. Due to my position, information pertaining to this matter is confidential and as such I cannot comment further on it. Originally by: Eran Mintor To say there is no honor in war, and then claim you are defending honor in war is indeed contradictory. You don't see it obviously, but for you to defend honor in war, there has to be honor already in it. If there is no honor in war, wouldn't you be defending your honor by not going to war? Honestly I don't know how I can better explain this to you, perhaps invest in a dictionary in one of those rusty stations of yours? Originally by: Sen Typhos The surprise some individuals are expressing confuses me. Surely after defending Prosperity Station alongside QCats pilots and allying with Vanguard, it had become obvious where IRED's loyalties lie. With anyone willing to rescue them from defeat.. [contd] Your support is always appreciated, Mr. Typhos.
Stalking Mantis Caldari Wolfsbrigade	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:53:00 - [34] So this is about Johns inability to determine the age and sex of a horse? ----------
Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:53:00 - [35] Originally by: Zeerover The Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive [I-RED] organization ... is actively promoting Gallente ideals such as virile liberalism. Wait... point of information. Is this the first instance in which the Gallente stand accused of virility? Well then! It's just as well those primitive Matari tribalist twits would not take my letter of recommendation! If there is one thing worth fighting for in this pathetic galaxy, it is surely the Master. But if there is one other thing in this galaxy worth fighting for, it is virility! I suspect however they will not take a letter of recommendation, either. Hmmm. Perhaps those adorable nuns will elevate my standing sufficiently...
Creetalor Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:55:00 - [36] Originally by: Senn Typhos The surprise some individuals are expressing confuses me. Surely after defending Prosperity Station alongside QCats pilots and allying with Vanguard, it had become obvious where IRED's loyalties lie. With anyone willing to rescue them from defeat. I encourage any Caldari loyalists to align with Wolfsbrigade for this campaign. No doubt Federation loyalists will be lining up to defend their brothers. You clearly leave out the presence of the Caldari Militia which was present with Drake Train they came upon our wish and the Gallente Militia did not hail to our wish but to those of the Intaki people. We came to the wish of the Intaki people, due to Ishukones effort to make it a stable trade region with Ishukone transports frequenting the area to give and sell supplies! Creedamce Shora Talor Executor Assistant I-RED Chusa
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:56:00 - [37] We engaged Four Horsemen one day after the engagement on the Kedama gate, I spoke to the leader of the Four Horsemen corporation after the engagement he suggested it was a mistake of identity which I made it very clear it was not. We were engaged by his organization, your own, and COLD-Wing one day before your pilots started losing ships. As we made it very clear we were not in Black Rise, and the Citadel to engage elements of the Caldari Militia on our patrol. You can continue to twist the situation to your needs, in pitiful attempts to seek help with your new-found friends in the Serpentis Loyalist's Anshar Inc. But it will not help you.. your pilots crimes of piracy will be paid in full, and the stain you place under the banner of the Caldari State will be removed.
Texcoyo Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:07:00 - [38] I think most of you State protectorate pilots forget, the reason why your fighting us to control territory, isn't because you work for some corporation of yours, its because your tyrant leader, Heth, commands that you do. John is acting in the best interests of his Mega-Corp, which is what good Caldari do, correct? They made a deal with the Federation, and the Intaki people to take over shipping and trade deals with them. I may not like it myself, but time has proven so far that it has been a benefit to the Intaki, and I since have changed my mind. The STPRO forces are just the wing of Heth bent on domination of the war zone, and further if they can manage it. He is no better a leader than the Federation president that ordered the bombardment of Caldari Prime. I can confirm, using my position as a director of QCATS, that we don't converse with John on a regular basis, share intelligence, or fleet with his employees. To call him a traitor to your race just shows how far the ultra-Nationalist behavior has rooted through you. Incapable of reason or diplomacy, and blindly fight the Federation for no reason other than the orders of your tyrant. As I said in the announcement, our mission may change, and one day may not be on cease-fire terms with I-RED. But as for now, we are. If you "Loyal" Caldari Heth puppets want to attack a state Mega-Corp subsidiary, feel free to make our point for us easier to show how far Heth is willing to go to push his own agenda.
Alexis Du'Volle	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:31:00 - [39] Originally by: John Revenent You can continue to twist the situation to your needs, in pitiful attempts to seek help with your new-found friends in the Serpentis Loyalist's Anshar Inc. But it will not help you.. your pilots crimes of piracy will be paid in full, and the stain you place under the banner of the Caldari State will be removed. Have you considered the fact that simply because Anshar Inc. Tagged pilots support an announcement on the IGS, they're not necessarily 'friends'? This is a perfect example of the ridiculous way IRED uses 'piracy' as an excuse to shoot legitimate groups who they don't happen to like.
Capitol One	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:35:00 - [40] This is wearisome, let me just post facts here. John Revenent Basilisk loss, date and time: 2011-03-09 21:54:00 More losses from this Pony corp follow. Looking over your killboards I notice you start killing off Milita pilots, these are not related to the 4 Horsemen incident however. Kill After kill Note that no aggression on behalf of Wolfsbrigade/Four Horsemen/Cold-Wing or other corps involved has happened yet. Then you aggress this pilot of the Four Horsemen, after incurring many losses by the Four Ponies, Lossmail Time and date: 2011-03-16 01:48:00 After which an I-RED drake is killed in just retaliation after what on our part appeared as unprovoked attacks (we understand the confusion however). Drake loss Time and date: 2011-03-16 02:24:00 This would be the occasion when, after you had lost your GCC, we were forced to go GCC in order to enforce the law in caldari space (I appreciate the irony, but the avoidance of GCC was not possible, due to high security standing after long stay in nullsec and the obvious lack of intent to attack when outnumbered). During this chaos, you manage to snatch one of us as we leave. Things have snowballed from there, and now we are at war. But the facts don't lie, I'm not going to quote anything or anyone, just let the facts speak for themselves. As for you Texcoyo, Quote: If you "Loyal" Caldari Heth puppets want to attack a state Mega-Corp subsidiary, feel free to make our point for us easier to show how far Heth is willing to go to push his own agenda. I think it's worth noting that I-RED wardecced W-BR, and only after the fact did we make the war mutual. So it's actually the other way around, the "state Mega-Corp subsidiary" is attacking us "Loyal Caldari Heth puppets" due to no reason than their own vanity and because they refuse to admit they are in the wrong. Respectfully, Capitol One Brigadier General
Valdezi Amarr Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:38:00 - [41] Originally by: Senn Typhos The surprise some individuals are expressing confuses me. Surely after defending Prosperity Station alongside QCats pilots and allying with Vanguard, it had become obvious where IRED's loyalties lie. With anyone willing to rescue them from defeat. I encourage any Caldari loyalists to align with Wolfsbrigade for this campaign. No doubt Federation loyalists will be lining up to defend their brothers. I think it's fairly clear that Wolfsbrigade has bitten off more than they can chew here. Why else would they be making this desparate bid for support from the rest of the Caldari Militia, many of whom are very friendly to Ishukone Raata? As for whether we will be seeking help from the Federate Militia, why would that be necessary? Wolves are dangerous yet, but most wolves know better than to proboke a bear. Also, Wolfsbrigade have bottomed out when this wolf's head is their only defender. Sometimes it's better to sleep alone than have a snake in one's bed.
Senn Typhos Anshar Incorporated	Posted - 2011.03.30 23:56:00 - [42] Originally by: Valdezi Edited by: Valdezi on 30/03/2011 23:38:30 Originally by: Senn Typhos The surprise some individuals are expressing confuses me. Surely after defending Prosperity Station alongside QCats pilots and allying with Vanguard, it had become obvious where IRED's loyalties lie. With anyone willing to rescue them from defeat. I encourage any Caldari loyalists to align with Wolfsbrigade for this campaign. No doubt Federation loyalists will be lining up to defend their brothers. I think it's fairly clear that Wolfsbrigade has bitten off more than they can chew here. Why else would they be making this desparate bid for support from the rest of the Caldari Militia, many of whom are very friendly to Ishukone Raata? So what would you call your bids to gather support from the Federation? Let alone pirate organizations. A "desperate bid" is an equally valid description of your pledge of fealty to the Vanguard after being chased out of Syndicate.
Valdezi Amarr Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:01:00 - [43] Originally by: Senn Typhos So what would you call your bids to gather support from the Federation? Let alone pirate organizations. A "desperate bid" is an equally valid description of your pledge of fealty to the Vanguard after being chased out of Syndicate. The famed Anshar 'intel' strikes again.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:03:00 - [44] Originally by: Senn Typhos A "desperate bid" is an equally valid description of your pledge of fealty to the Vanguard after being chased out of Syndicate. Senn, did anyone tell you that you're goddamn adorable when you think you have the faintest clue what you're talking about? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Milo Caman Gallente Anshar Incorporated	Posted - 2011.03.31 00:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Senn, did anyone tell you that you're goddamn adorable when you think you have the faintest clue what you're talking about? So how does it feel to be losing relevance faster than the version one Egonics Headset? ---
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Milo Caman So how does it feel to be losing relevance faster than the version one Egonics Headset? I dunno, you tell me. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Yazus Kor Kotharat Logistics	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:05:00 - [47] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris I dunno, you tell me. 'I know you are, but what am I?' "Beware, you who seek first and final principles, for you are trampling the garden of an angry God and he awaits you just beyond the last theorem."
Chicken W1ng Caldari Wolfsbrigade	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:07:00 - [48] Wednesday night ganking http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9267847
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:08:00 - [49] Originally by: Yazus Kor 'I know you are, but what am I?' His statement didn't really warrant anything more cerebral. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Dan Pyre Amarr Wolfsbrigade	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:20:00 - [50] Quote: I think it's fairly clear that Wolfsbrigade has bitten off more than they can chew here. Originally by: Chicken W1ng Good fight http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9267876
JT133	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:22:00 - [51] Originally by: Valdezi I think it's fairly clear that Wolfsbrigade has bitten off more than they can chew here. Why else would they be making this desparate bid for support from the rest of the Caldari Militia, many of whom are very friendly to Ishukone Raata? I believe [I-RED] is the one who has bitten off more than they can chew in this instance. This is evidenced by the fact that we had a 100% efficiency in the engagement just there, killed a multitude of your ships and just inflicted over 1 billion ISK in losses on you. As for asking fellow militia corporations to assist us in this war, it is meerly due to the fact that we often work together and they would no doubt relish in killing traitors of the Caldari State. We do not need any help, I believe that this is quite clear. http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9267873 [Note: Hawk kill is unrelated] To quote your new allies: "You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake." - Excerpt from the Federation Presidents response to the Caldari Proclamation of Secession. CE 23154.11.22 JT133 Brigadier General Caldari State
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:30:00 - [52] Boast away. While it is disappointing to see the men and women on board the ships die, it is not in vain Ishukone-Raata holds strong. The conflict has just begun.
Lock out Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:40:00 - [53] 32 SSN
Chicken W1ng Caldari Wolfsbrigade	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:42:00 - [54] Originally by: John Revenent Boast away. While it is disappointing to see the men and women on board the ships die, it is not in vain Ishukone-Raata holds strong. The conflict has just begun. Actually it is in vain! Surrender and give us your women before we torch down your towns!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.03.31 01:54:00 - [55] Originally by: Chicken W1ng Actually it is in vain! Surrender and give us your women before we torch down your towns! You know, given that you both work for the Caldari State, wouldn't those also be your towns and your women? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Bataav Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2011.03.31 02:21:00 - [56] Originally by: Senn Typhos The surprise some individuals are expressing confuses me. Surely after defending Prosperity Station alongside QCats pilots and allying with Vanguard, it had become obvious where IRED's loyalties lie. With anyone willing to rescue them from defeat. I encourage any Caldari loyalists to align with Wolfsbrigade for this campaign. No doubt Federation loyalists will be lining up to defend their brothers. You might be interested to learn that while it's true that I-RED and FDU fleets were present at the Prosperity Station defence Wolfsbrigade were present in the State Militia contingent. Bataav
Senn Typhos Anshar Incorporated	Posted - 2011.03.31 02:29:00 - [57] Originally by: Bataav Originally by: Senn Typhos The surprise some individuals are expressing confuses me. Surely after defending Prosperity Station alongside QCats pilots and allying with Vanguard, it had become obvious where IRED's loyalties lie. With anyone willing to rescue them from defeat. I encourage any Caldari loyalists to align with Wolfsbrigade for this campaign. No doubt Federation loyalists will be lining up to defend their brothers. You might be interested to learn that while it's true that I-RED and FDU fleets were present at the Prosperity Station defence Wolfsbrigade were present in the State Militia contingent. Bataav I can't imagine being interested to learn something ANN reported on the day it occurred. I think you're mistaking a comment in support of military action, for approval of the organizations involved.
Chicken W1ng Caldari Wolfsbrigade	Posted - 2011.03.31 02:29:00 - [58] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Chicken W1ng Actually it is in vain! Surrender and give us your women before we torch down your towns! You know, given that you both work for the Caldari State, wouldn't those also be your towns and your women? Are you from the 80s dude??
Bataav Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2011.03.31 02:35:00 - [59] Originally by: Senn Typhos I can't imagine being interested to learn something ANN reported on the day it occurred. I think you're mistaking a comment in support of military action, for approval of the organizations involved. So just to clarify... you're publically supporting Wolfsbrigade as Caldari loyalists, yet seem to be using the defence of Prosperity Station (that both groups were in the very same defence armada) as a reason to doubt I-RED's loyalties...
Alain Colcer Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.31 02:45:00 - [60] Originally by: Chicken W1ng Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Chicken W1ng Actually it is in vain! Surrender and give us your women before we torch down your towns! You know, given that you both work for the Caldari State, wouldn't those also be your towns and your women? Are you from the 80s dude?? You mean YC80? thats 92 years ago, my father was just starting his first job as a campaign liason for a major gallente politician in Everyshore. Are you that old?

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