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Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 08:52:00 - [31] Originally by: Ban Doga Originally by: Ioci Edited by: Ioci on 02/04/2011 08:33:55 Originally by: Arthur Frayn Edited by: Arthur Frayn on 02/04/2011 08:27:37 I feel cheated. I came in hoping the op would be ranting about a new mission that would be as tough as the lvl 4's were in the good old days of 2006, but it turns out the op just sucks at running the laughably easy missions we have now. Originally by: Ioci So everyone who doesnt have a PHD in EvE issions and 14 bookmarks to page long tutorials on each mission can't play EvE? But this is all coolio with people who play EvE? U just don't get it do you? CCP are laughing at you. Everyone who doesn't have the intelligence to google "Eve missions guide", click the third link down and spend a couple of minutes reading, can't play Eve very well. "U just don't get it do you?" Even highsec carebears everywhere are laughing at you. No, they aren't. A quite a few are posting examples of the broken AI in missions. Your appeal to the masses to support your trolling and griefing isn't going quite the way you xpected. Sorry that didnt work out for you. And I will be pushing this to the top untill the Devs answer it, or the end of the month. Either way, either or. I will continue to report flames, trolls and off topic additions. I will continue to complain about this. Not for the stupid ship but because it's broken and CCP can't have all yes men in thier subscription base. Probably hundreds of player complete that mission every day. It is far from impossible to complete, even without reading "for hours". Thousands of people are capable of killing scrammers and webbers and warp out before they lose their ships. It is also quite common that you will land on a certain location when warping into a deadspace pocket - if your second ship arrived far away from your first ship that's because your first ship moved that far away from the entry point. The fact that mission running is widely used to make ISK efficiently suggests that it is in fact too easily and you losing your ship was actually your fault. Missions are "broken" but not in the way you describe. They are "broken" because they are far too predictable and easy. I'm not sure what you actually expect because you don't say that. But not every combination of ships, equipment, skills, experience and missions will result in a success and there's nothing wrong with that. You have a right to your opinion. What I saw wasn't monday morning quarter backing, it was first hand and it is broken. I had good ship and I followed a reasonable course of action and I'm sick of being trolled for GTCs by bad code from a dev team that have lost perspective. a 1 mill mission in this game with the billion ISK ships should be farmed in 15 minutes. They don't do anything to reduce ISK requi to be competetive. The only do things to reduce the ISK faucets.
Hannibal Ord Minmatar Hannibals Commando's	Posted - 2011.04.02 08:55:00 - [32] That's great. You forgot to to read becase I had a Domi there too. The Domi left when it got over tanked and was removed from the battle with a static warp in point. Why did you even need the DOMI is the first place? If you are dual boxing, why didn't you put the BATTLESHIP in first. The Domi is completely irrelevant to your argument in every way. I mean, if you go stuck at the warp in gate... IT EVEN TELLS YOU IN THE MISSION DESCRIPTION (Battleships cannot use this gate) before you even accept the mission. THE HIC should not have even been anywhere NEAR the mission in the first place.
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 08:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Hannibal Ord That's great. You forgot to to read becase I had a Domi there too. The Domi left when it got over tanked and was removed from the battle with a static warp in point. Why did you even need the DOMI is the first place? If you are dual boxing, why didn't you put the BATTLESHIP in first. The Domi is completely irrelevant to your argument in every way. I mean, if you go stuck at the warp in gate... IT EVEN TELLS YOU IN THE MISSION DESCRIPTION (Battleships cannot use this gate) before you even accept the mission. THE HIC should not have even been anywhere NEAR the mission in the first place. There was no gate. It was a Warp in mission. You warped in to do an escort, the escort wasnt there. They then spawned 4 cruisers. This is the problem with people on the forums. They assume everything.
baltec1	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:04:00 - [34] Why would you even try to use a HIC to run a mission?
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:09:00 - [35] Originally by: baltec1 Why would you even try to use a HIC to run a mission? Did I mention nobody reads? Mining missions. I had mining assets in the region. I had a Hic. A hic that could and did tank 11 BS, 6 cruisers and 4 frigates. It just couldn't do it forever and with a scram on it, the death came. FTR I have a few billion in ISK and around 20 billion in asset. This isnt about losing a HIC. its about a Dev team that have given up on a game and predatory practice by a corporate Cockroach that used to treat EVE like it's Gem.
Sarmatiko	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:10:00 - [36] Oh btw, the joy from this delicious thread would be incomplete without HIC mission fitting. OP can you provide this valuable information to devs so they can fix things that broken ~~in your brain probably~~?
Hannibal Ord Minmatar Hannibals Commando's	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:12:00 - [37] There was no gate. It was a Warp in mission. You warped in to do an escort, the escort wasnt there. They then spawned 4 cruisers. This is the problem with people on the forums. They assume everything. I'm sorry I had assumed the ship you expected to bring it was not allowed in which would mean it was a mechanic that prevented the domi entering the mission. But actually it just means that you fail even worse than I assumed in the first place.
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:14:00 - [38] Edited by: Ioci on 02/04/2011 09:15:27 I also expect the forum dogs to let all these trolls to chew at me untill they fet bored, then lock the thread. I never expect a Dev to answer this and untill everyone is forced to buy GTCs to play the game I don't expect any of the subscription yes men to do anything but troll me. I'm still going to add replies un till the above happens I could edit out the typos but trolls will just find something else to feed on.
baltec1	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:15:00 - [39] Originally by: Ioci Originally by: baltec1 Why would you even try to use a HIC to run a mission? Did I mention nobody reads? Mining missions. I had mining assets in the region. I had a Hic. A hic that could and did tank 11 BS, 6 cruisers and 4 frigates. It just couldn't do it forever and with a scram on it, the death came. FTR I have a few billion in ISK and around 20 billion in asset. This isnt about losing a HIC. its about a Dev team that have given up on a game and predatory practice by a corporate Cockroach that used to treat EVE like it's Gem. You used a HIC in a mission. Im sorry but this is all your falt. A HIC is not built for doing missions, everyone knows this. Everyone also knows that you will get a random mining/transport/combat mission from all agents and that you can simplyskip it. This issue is all your own doing.
Stella SGP The Kimotoro Initiative	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:16:00 - [40] I totally agree with the OP. They should have provided pop up windows telling you exactly what is going to happen and how you should do it. Also why the hell are the NPC's fielding multiple ships bigger then frigates?!? There should only be 1 frigate. This game is simply too hard for some of us. You're right, it's CCP's fault for not making missions idiot proof and causing incompetent people like you to lose their ship.
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:18:00 - [41] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Ioci Originally by: baltec1 Why would you even try to use a HIC to run a mission? Did I mention nobody reads? Mining missions. I had mining assets in the region. I had a Hic. A hic that could and did tank 11 BS, 6 cruisers and 4 frigates. It just couldn't do it forever and with a scram on it, the death came. FTR I have a few billion in ISK and around 20 billion in asset. This isnt about losing a HIC. its about a Dev team that have given up on a game and predatory practice by a corporate Cockroach that used to treat EVE like it's Gem. You used a HIC in a mission. Im sorry but this is all your falt. A HIC is not built for doing missions, everyone knows this. Everyone also knows that you will get a random mining/transport/combat mission from all agents and that you can simplyskip it. This issue is all your own doing. No, I used a HIC to scout the mission. I usually use a Passive drake and would have set one up but after losing the HIC, I decided the who set up was just broken.
Hannibal Ord Minmatar Hannibals Commando's	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:20:00 - [42] Originally by: Ioci Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Ioci Originally by: baltec1 Why would you even try to use a HIC to run a mission? Did I mention nobody reads? Mining missions. I had mining assets in the region. I had a Hic. A hic that could and did tank 11 BS, 6 cruisers and 4 frigates. It just couldn't do it forever and with a scram on it, the death came. FTR I have a few billion in ISK and around 20 billion in asset. This isnt about losing a HIC. its about a Dev team that have given up on a game and predatory practice by a corporate Cockroach that used to treat EVE like it's Gem. You used a HIC in a mission. Im sorry but this is all your falt. A HIC is not built for doing missions, everyone knows this. Everyone also knows that you will get a random mining/transport/combat mission from all agents and that you can simplyskip it. This issue is all your own doing. No, I used a HIC to scout the mission. I usually use a Passive drake and would have set one up but after losing the HIC, I decided the who set up was just broken. Confirming Armour Tanked ships make excellent fast scouts with good GTFO ability.
Terick Calvantia	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:22:00 - [43] Holy crap, this troll has been way over fed. 10/10 man really. Unless of course any of this really happened, in witch case I think this is the first time any one gets to use the words "emergency" and "vasectomy" together in the same sentence.
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:22:00 - [44] Originally by: Sarmatiko Oh btw, the joy from this delicious thread would be incomplete without HIC mission fitting. OP can you provide this valuable information to devs so they can fix things that broken ~~in your brain probably~~? Chuckle up, trolls. According to devlogs the nerfs are coming to nullsec too. Soon you will all be buying ISK.
baltec1	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:25:00 - [45] Originally by: Ioci No, I used a HIC to scout the mission. I usually use a Passive drake and would have set one up but after losing the HIC, I decided the who set up was just broken. No, you used a pvp ship to do something it wasnt built to do and got it killed. Nothing here is broken other than your tactics.
Sarmatiko	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:28:00 - [46] Originally by: Hannibal Ord Confirming Armour Tanked ships make excellent fast scouts with good GTFO ability. Probably it was shield-nano-devoter
Hannibal Ord Minmatar Hannibals Commando's	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:29:00 - [47] Originally by: Sarmatiko Originally by: Hannibal Ord Confirming Armour Tanked ships make excellent fast scouts with good GTFO ability. Probably it was shield-nano-devoter That explains it. Kinda like a laser Vaga. I can see where the OP is coming from now.
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:33:00 - [48] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Ioci No, I used a HIC to scout the mission. I usually use a Passive drake and would have set one up but after losing the HIC, I decided the who set up was just broken. No, you used a pvp ship to do something it wasnt built to do and got it killed. Nothing here is broken other than your tactics. But the Domi lived. Oh, thats right, you didnt read about the Domi. You just snipered in on your opportunity to flame someone.
Burnharder	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:36:00 - [49] I don't understand. Are you saying the mission is broken because your Domi arrived 90km away from your HIC? Otherwise, the HIC would have been saved?
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:37:00 - [50] Originally by: Ioci Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Ioci No, I used a HIC to scout the mission. I usually use a Passive drake and would have set one up but after losing the HIC, I decided the who set up was just broken. No, you used a pvp ship to do something it wasnt built to do and got it killed. Nothing here is broken other than your tactics. But the Domi lived. Oh, thats right, you didnt read about the Domi. You just snipered in on your opportunity to flame someone. yeah but you used a HIC on a mission. I can do that mission with a NH and come back with barely any shield damage. You went to use a HIC + backup on a mission that can be done with a drake and lost the HIC. like, what? --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
baltec1	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:37:00 - [51] Originally by: Ioci But the Domi lived. Oh, thats right, you didnt read about the Domi. You just snipered in on your opportunity to flame someone. The HIC is still dead and you are still whining about it.
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:39:00 - [52] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Ioci But the Domi lived. Oh, thats right, you didnt read about the Domi. You just snipered in on your opportunity to flame someone. The HIC is still dead and you are still whining about it. And you are still trolling my thread even though nobody asked you to.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:41:00 - [53] Originally by: Ioci Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Ioci But the Domi lived. Oh, thats right, you didnt read about the Domi. You just snipered in on your opportunity to flame someone. The HIC is still dead and you are still whining about it. And you are still trolling my thread even though nobody asked you to. well you still lost a HIC on a mission. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:50:00 - [54] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Ioci Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Ioci But the Domi lived. Oh, thats right, you didnt read about the Domi. You just snipered in on your opportunity to flame someone. The HIC is still dead and you are still whining about it. And you are still trolling my thread even though nobody asked you to. well you still lost a HIC on a mission. Yep. It was a PvP ship lost to a high sec mission that paid 1200 LP and 1 mill ISK. It had no chance. It wouldn't have in null sec either. Its why I pulled it. Lagg and black screen kills ships there. Glad you are all enjoying your EvE store ISK game that requires you to blob the nodes untill they crash and never make errors. Its a relaxing game. A fun game. ISK grind and macro precision combat, macro mining, macro missioning. Its nice that you can enjoy this.
Sarmatiko	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:56:00 - [55] Originally by: Ioci Glad you are all enjoying your EvE store ISK game that requires you to blob the nodes untill they crash and never make errors. Its a relaxing game. A fun game. ISK grind and macro precision combat, macro mining, macro missioning. Its nice that you can enjoy this. I have bad news for you. Probably even macro can`t fail on that mission because this is the easiest one lvl 4 after Recon. And you failed it and still lost HIC
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:59:00 - [56] Originally by: Ioci Edited by: Ioci on 02/04/2011 08:33:55 Originally by: Arthur Frayn Edited by: Arthur Frayn on 02/04/2011 08:27:37 I feel cheated. I came in hoping the op would be ranting about a new mission that would be as tough as the lvl 4's were in the good old days of 2006, but it turns out the op just sucks at running the laughably easy missions we have now. Originally by: Ioci So everyone who doesnt have a PHD in EvE issions and 14 bookmarks to page long tutorials on each mission can't play EvE? But this is all coolio with people who play EvE? U just don't get it do you? CCP are laughing at you. Everyone who doesn't have the intelligence to google "Eve missions guide", click the third link down and spend a couple of minutes reading, can't play Eve very well. "U just don't get it do you?" Even highsec carebears everywhere are laughing at you. No, they aren't. A quite a few are posting examples of the broken AI in missions. Your appeal to the masses to support your trolling and griefing isn't going quite the way you xpected. Sorry that didnt work out for you. And I will be pushing this to the top untill the Devs answer it, or the end of the month. Either way, either or. I will continue to report flames, trolls and off topic additions. I will continue to complain about this. Not for the stupid ship but because it's broken and CCP can't have all yes men in thier subscription base. If you want an official response then file a petition, the forums are here for ALL of us to discuss on so I don't care how much you want only dev responses, we all will have something to say. And sure MOST games are for pure enjoyment but EVE is one that requires you to do your homework to enjoy it, and yes we like it that way. We enjoy that process of seeing our plans unfold, learning new things, being able to apply what we know to the game and see it take effect. Everyone else that DID look it up is laughing at you right now including myself...and btw you CAN do that mission even when u pop all the triggers if u can pop the webbers first and keeps peed up in a smaller T2 ship like that. -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact	Posted - 2011.04.02 10:00:00 - [57] Originally by: Ioci Originally by: baltec1 Why would you even try to use a HIC to run a mission? FTR I have a few billion in ISK and around 20 billion in asset. This completely negates your pathetic "only ship in area" excuse for bringing the HIC in the first place. Just admit you can't run a mission properly and throw in the towel. By the way, real men biomass when they emoragequit.
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 10:01:00 - [58] Originally by: Sarmatiko Originally by: Ioci Glad you are all enjoying your EvE store ISK game that requires you to blob the nodes untill they crash and never make errors. Its a relaxing game. A fun game. ISK grind and macro precision combat, macro mining, macro missioning. Its nice that you can enjoy this. I have bad news for you. Probably even macro can`t fail on that mission because this is the easiest one lvl 4 after Recon. And you failed it and still lost HIC Yea, easy. What mission was I doing? Link it please.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.04.02 10:03:00 - [59] Edited by: Grimpak on 02/04/2011 10:04:19 Originally by: Ioci Originally by: Grimpak well you still lost a HIC on a mission. Yep. It was a PvP ship lost to a high sec mission that paid 1200 LP and 1 mill ISK. It had no chance. It wouldn't have in null sec either. Its why I pulled it. Lagg and black screen kills ships there. Glad you are all enjoying your EvE store ISK game that requires you to blob the nodes untill they crash and never make errors. Its a relaxing game. A fun game. ISK grind and macro precision combat, macro mining, macro missioning. Its nice that you can enjoy this. you lost a HIC in a mission. that alone makes your argument invalid. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Sarmatiko	Posted - 2011.04.02 10:05:00 - [60] Edited by: Sarmatiko on 02/04/2011 10:05:21 Originally by: Ioci Yea, easy. What mission was I doing? Link it please. http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=AttackoftheDrones4 Kill one cruiser Kill 3BS+2 cruisers from spawn ????? PROFIT!

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