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Meolyne
los tabarnakos
Ouate de Phoque
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:52:00 -
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That's a nice surprise to see some french translation in EVE. I hope this will come true one day.
And if it's an error or some kind of joke, here the screens for the sake of our memories
Login
Options
Skills
Skills looks like a bit messy though. Would like to see texts without capitals
14jour(s) 5h 32mn 23s
Note the "Mn" for minute, not in International System, but widely used by Frenchs and officialized since 1948.
Anyway, Good Job once again CCP. |
fab24
Tax Fraud Corporation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 21:37:00 -
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They, long ago, did this and it was terrible. It just confuses every single french player (including myself) that have been playing for atleast 6 month. The language frontier keeps kids away from the game, and it's great this way. It's some kind of filter.
Adapt, or die. |
Meolyne
los tabarnakos
Ouate de Phoque
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Posted - 2012.08.30 23:05:00 -
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Not sure to understand your "adapt or die" conclusion.
I'm just congratulating CCP for continuing EVE's localization.
I don't think Russians, Japaneses and Dutchs players are majority teens nowadays.
Moreover, i know this is a general thought that Kiddies come to games in their own langages but remember you learn English at 9' and EVE is not quite an easy game (plus PEGI 12+)
And if you can't join an alliance because of your mentality, then...you''l do some Lvl4 and stop.
No Raid 25 HardMode, no 'bind on Equip', no purple, no pokemon's pets, and especially no Pandas !
This is the filter you look for.
People who succeed in Eve, should play Eve, no matter their age.
Remember the daddy behind him/her could be Mittani.  |
Falrec
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.31 18:14:00 -
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Mmmmhhh.... That sound good, thank CCP  |
Lacrima Mosa Est
TEST Citizens Please Ignore Holdings
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Posted - 2012.09.03 13:57:00 -
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yeah, that's sound cool, please work more on that way CCP.
Merci :) |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.07 00:03:00 -
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fab24 wrote:They, long ago, did this and it was terrible. It just confuses every single french player (including myself) that have been playing for atleast 6 month. The language frontier keeps kids away from the game, and it's great this way. It's some kind of filter.
Adapt, or die.
[joke]
Then your filter miserably failed the day Eve started in English with all your US/GB fat kids in front of their computer training hard with sodas and chips to get some weight and bully on the internet
[/joke]
You rule seems not working for Germany/Russia/Japan, it's probably because it's a very bad one.
brb |
Indalecia
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Posted - 2012.09.07 21:34:00 -
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fab24 wrote:They, long ago, did this and it was terrible. It just confuses every single french player (including myself) that have been playing for atleast 6 month. The language frontier keeps kids away from the game, and it's great this way. It's some kind of filter.
Adapt, or die.
Confirming this guy is not representative of the french-speaking community.
Sure, for vets, having a native translation is a burden and they'd rather keep the english (which they can), but I think it improves the NPE. See what is happening with german and russian players.
Bonne soir+¬e |
Grombutz
Treasures Collectors
Solar Citizens
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Posted - 2012.09.07 23:42:00 -
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This reminds me of the survey I had for the german - loca.
Localization should be scratched of the board. There is nothing good with it. Most ppl speak english. Communicating in different languages can be hard for some people allready, and it only gets worse with multiple languages (clients) involved.
I know french ppl are proud of their language, but rly, the last thing eve needs is another localization.
Don't get me wrong, the quality of localization is pretty good, it's just a useless feature.
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Bouh Revetoile
Barricade.
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Posted - 2012.09.08 10:59:00 -
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Grombutz wrote:There is nothing good with it. Most ppl speak english.
This is so elitist and close minded ! Most people playing the game speak english, because the others cannot play, the game being in english !
Localisation is the best thing that can happen to french community. The only ones to disagree are bitter vet missing the "EVE at 2000 toons" era and selfish elitist who don't want to share their game.
It's easy : localisation => more people => better EVE
=> more french people => even better EVE for french people
Localisation only *add* to the game. Bitter vet and elitist will always be able to keep their game in english and join some elitist US alliance to stay away from their fellow...
Adapt or die work both ways... |
BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
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Posted - 2012.09.11 05:46:00 -
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More localization means more player added to the base, that can't be bad 
An BTW, you don't have to be a kid to be a jerk, eve is already full of it (yeah i'm already here, so nothing worse can happen to this game ^^) |
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Meolyne
los tabarnakos
Ouate de Phoque
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:22:00 -
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BugraT WarheaD wrote:
An BTW, you don't have to be a kid to be a jerk, eve is already full of it
So true... So sad ! |
BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
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Posted - 2012.09.12 07:09:00 -
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I know i'm off topic Meolyne but i like your alliance :D
And I don't have any localized words in french in my test client ... How do you managed to get them ? (yeah i'm curious !) |
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CCP Shiny
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.13 12:18:00 -
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I only came across this thread now, so not sure if this is still happening. If so, could you please confirm where you saw this? Which server? Which language was the client set to? Also, what is the language of your OS?
Also, unfortunately this is an error at this point. While French is certainly one of the languages we consider for potential future localization, the EVE client is currently not supposed to be in French. I am happy to see enthusiasm for it though
- CCP Shiny
EVE Localization |
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Meolyne
los tabarnakos
Ouate de Phoque
15
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:04:00 -
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Oh serisously ?
Damn !
Consider youselves happy i'm posting more screens because if it's a bug, well, it's a good one
If it's a Dev Mate which implemented this joke, like the one which introduced colors on this forum for CCP Punkturis some times ago as i was asking on the test forum thread, then the only punishment he deserves is to FINISH this job ! 'cuz it's quite well translated.
Anyway... (sad face)
System : Win7x64 ultimate french
Eve's Setting : English / Eve IME on / always use english voice unchecked
Machine : a 35kg laptop with a pair of Xeons inside  . (MacPro)
Next image will tell you what you're looking for. Full Res.
Login Screen Full
This one shows interesting NPC corporations names.
Corporations List
That's all i've seen.
This client was updated by Sisi launcher (Don't tell me to trash it, i won't)
I will edit this eventually because i have to re-install a new build on my new SSD.
To BugraT : LOL, yeah the name is well chosen. All credits go to Quebec.
Can't help your curiosity, i don't know myself. but it's happenning only on this client. 
[Off Topic] And yes it good to be French sometimes, but not today  |
Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.14 23:59:00 -
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If you do the translation someday, please do NOT translate the names and UI elements... or people won't understand each other. |
BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
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Posted - 2012.09.15 06:31:00 -
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It's translated in German, russian and Japanese, and these people don't seems to have problems to understand other people in other langages.
But it certainly a bug if you game is in french only in the title screen. |
Bouh Revetoile
Barricade.
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Posted - 2012.09.16 19:43:00 -
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Tanaka Aiko wrote:If you do the translation someday, please do NOT translate the names and UI elements... or people won't understand each other.
People *will* understand each others. Most people are actually able to learn two or more names for one thing ; they did it for warcraft 3 at least in my own experience. |
Meolyne
los tabarnakos
Ouate de Phoque
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:42:00 -
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I just made a fresh install from TQ, and it's still in French. \o/
"Le cluster n'accepte pas les connexions pour le moment"
It means CCP just kicked us from Singularity.  Now i have to play without those nice bugs  it's a shame !
Guys i'm happy to read some logic and constructives posts, thank you.
I'm sure CCP is reading. |
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CCP Shiny
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.17 11:58:00 -
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I am reading indeed - thank you for the input, even though it is obviously a hypothetical discussion at this point.
@Meolyne - thank you for the additional information, I hope you won't be too sad to hear that we have fixed this defect internally already.
- CCP Shiny
EVE Localization |
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Meolyne
los tabarnakos
Ouate de Phoque
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Posted - 2012.09.17 18:53:00 -
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You are Welcome Ma'am !
 yes i'm sad indeed.
Anyway, as with the new overview you tried to implement with incursions, i will tell "I was there"
Thank you for taking part into this.
care ! |
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Grombutz
Treasures Collectors
Solar Citizens
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:46:00 -
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Bouh Revetoile wrote:Grombutz wrote:There is nothing good with it. Most ppl speak english.
This is so elitist and close minded ! Most people playing the game speak english, because the others cannot play, the game being in english ! Localisation is the best thing that can happen to french community. The only ones to disagree are bitter vet missing the "EVE at 2000 toons" era and selfish elitist who don't want to share their game. It's easy : localisation => more people => better EVE => more french people => even better EVE for french people Localisation only *add* to the game. Bitter vet and elitist will always be able to keep their game in english and join some elitist US alliance to stay away from their fellow... Adapt or die work both ways...
From my experience, ppl don't care about the language the game is in aslong as its still readable and not in some weird kyrillic-language. I might be wrong, but CCP had a survey for localization with an option for " I play the game because there is a localized-client ". I bet there aren't many ppl choosing this option. PPL will allways find someone in their language which is able to help out - but different names for different items just makes communicating harder. Along with this, beeing able to cut yourself out of the need to communicate with players not able to speak your language doesn't make the game easier.
I'm in Solar, and while those guys are nice and friendly, some of them doesn't even understand english. While it's good for them to have a russian client (like french would be good for french people), it definately makes it harder to set up things together (which is kinda sad).
While french is an awesome language (I can't speak btw), I doubt the need for it, and the benefits from having a french client. Might be me, but's my meaningless opinion anyway and I really doubt it will change s.th. ;)
the same is true for the german client. In my opinion as a german, the german localization doesn't add good stuff. Only thing it's doing is making it harder to understand help given by other players, guides, Forums etc.
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BugraT WarheaD
Astromechanica Federatis
47
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Posted - 2012.09.19 10:11:00 -
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Believe us or not ... But french people weren't as turned to english as other country ... History bla bla bla. |
Meolyne
los tabarnakos
Ouate de Phoque
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Posted - 2012.09.19 23:35:00 -
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LoL
That's because English/Americans usually love our French accent
I ran into this several time with incursion : "You sir, are a French ! isn't it ? oh, Bonjour ! comment allez-vous?" (i'm skipping mistakes)
I heard one Dev @fanfest2012 can't remember his name who spoke Frenglish and can't say what he's done in Eve, but he's awesome
As for Grombutz, Of course it makes comprehension harder, but for those experienced guys, i'm sure you can run your client in English. as for unexperienced ones, make a strong base then learn important translated words.
and for mission runner, i can assure you reading all this interesting pages is a pain where you know it is.
PS : we already have good guides and forums in French for Eve. i started there  |
Taliah Meyhin
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Posted - 2012.09.20 13:57:00 -
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When I started playing, what annoyed me the most was reading descriptions (tutorials, misions, weapons, ammo, items descriptions) in english even if, I think, I can read english quite easily.
And I agree with BugraT WarheaD : Quote:More localization means more player added to the base, that can't be bad
I tend to think that the easier it is to learn how to play EVE in the beginning, the more players you'll keep later, after the trial period. And if there's a translation for these players, you'll make them happy.
Please, support this idea : Overview Filters
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Taliah Meyhin
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Posted - 2012.12.15 19:10:00 -
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Bump.
I am still hoping to see a french localization one day..
Good feature requests : Overview Filters --á Fleet window - Sub-folders for Bookmarks |
SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.17 09:59:00 -
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Same here, s'il vous plait. |
Taliah Meyhin
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Posted - 2012.12.19 13:31:00 -
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To minimize the cost of the translation, I am sure lots of french players (like me) would want to help translate item descriptions, missions details, interface, etc...
Then, once we would all think our translation is finished, we could send it to CCP for approval and modifications.
The french players could work all together on this joint work.
Good feature requests : Overview Filters --á Fleet window - Sub-folders for Bookmarks |
Taliah Meyhin
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Posted - 2012.12.31 13:51:00 -
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I don't know how is the translation is in German but for this "theoretical" French translation, we could just leave some words or terms in english.
After asking some french players about this idea, some of them answered me that they were worried about the fact that some friench players could use the french language, and others the default english language.
They fear that it will be a mess in channels to understand each other..
That's why (I think), the french translation (if there is one) could only be done on missions stories/details, items descriptions (but not necessary all specific terms)...
Good ideas :
Collapsible Windows // Overview Filters // new Fleet UI |
Taliah Meyhin
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Posted - 2013.02.14 17:54:00 -
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Valentine's day bump.
Have fun, make love and please support this idea.
Good ideas :
Collapsible Windows // Overview Filters // new Fleet UI |
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2013.02.14 22:14:00 -
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BugraT WarheaD wrote:It's translated in German, russian and Japanese, and these people don't seems to have problems to understand other people in other langages.
That's because people in Russia using English client for most part. And those not, are not posting on these forums anyway. |
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