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John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.04.05 21:20:00 - [1] Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive: Reset of Amarrian Bloc Saisieni New Eden, After talks with a representative for the Amarrian Bloc, and the continuous strain on relations between Ishukone-Raata and several Amarrian Loyalist groups. The Board of Directors made a decision to step back from the Amarrian political, and economical spheres. While aiding military and economically in the Amarr Empire for the past two years, over the past several months relations have begun to erode causing operational/diplomatic issues. Ishukone-Raata will be severing ties with all Amarr Empire Loyalist Organizations effective immediately to a neutral standing, all operations, and trade agreements will cease. We are saddened by this action, but view it as a necessary course of action considering present events. Relations can be attempted to be re-established when the Directorship views it applicable. Corporation/Alliances Reset: - CVA - CALVU - XDIAX - IPHAR - KTS - KOTMC - K-KDR We insist that other Amarr Loyalist Organizations who have us at positive standings please reset us until further notice. Rikaato. Fair Profits New Eden.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.04.05 21:41:00 - [2] I can't applaud I-RED enough for taking this step. Outstanding move, Revenent. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:38:00 - [3] Taisho Revenent, I am quite surprised to see the Knighthood name on your list. Our standings regarding your respectable organization are still blue and were to remain faithfully the same. I will have to pass the word to our leadership for further discussions and reconsiderations, but I am really unhappy to do so. I am maybe equally surprised to see that the CVA is on the list too, but I can't talk for them. Fair profits to you, Farel.
Mizhara Del'thul Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:44:00 - [4] I can't do much but provide a pale imitation of pilot Verone's statement on the matter.
Lucius Vindictus Amarr East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:52:00 - [5] I was unaware of any negative encounters, be it political, business or otherwise, with the Khanid Trade Syndicate. I will notify ambassador Vartesa of your decision. Bio Blog
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:54:00 - [6] It seems Mr. Revenent has taken the final step in burning the remainder of his bridges.
Valdezi Amarr Intaki Security and Intelligence Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.04.05 22:59:00 - [7] You'd be the expert on burning bridges, Soter. Maybe you can give Revenent-haan a lesson on doing it as efficiently as you?
BacardiDesire Wolfsbrigade	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:01:00 - [8] Edited by: BacardiDesire on 05/04/2011 23:06:02 burning bridges, burning fleets, who knows the bloody alliance itself might catch fire of this bold move General Green Potatoe --- Crazy dutch mofo
Veni'vidi Vixit	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:05:00 - [9] Im burning my bridge to you Sir John Revenent Best regards Rear Admiral Space Trash Can
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.04.05 23:57:00 - [10] Sad to see you choose temporary allies over permanent ones. ------------------------------------------------ Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.04.06 00:26:00 - [11] Originally by: Eran Mintor Sad to see you choose temporary allies over permanent ones. Our "Temporary" allies may have been a catalyst to this turn of events, but our relations have been strained with the Amarrian Bloc for some time.
Koronakesh Amarr Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.04.06 00:38:00 - [12] I don't see KPV in that list (which is fair in a sense, since this is about Empire groups), so I'll just assume you're too busy licking Silas' heels to spread your attention to the Imperials now... I guess that's progress, of a sort?
Sinjin Mokk Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium	Posted - 2011.04.06 01:06:00 - [13] Originally by: John Revenent Our "Temporary" allies may have been a catalyst to this turn of events, but our relations have been strained with the Amarrian Bloc for some time. Mr. Revenent, To me this seems like an excuse. It smells of someone who is looking for a reason and jumps at the first chance. Sophistry, after a fashion. As Lady Silas previously mentioned, I-RED, its subsidiaries and allies that were formerly "blue" will now be set to neutral. Gallente-loyalist corporations within I-RED will be taken on a case-by case basis but will probably retain their "red" standing due to the current state of war between the Amarr Empire and the Gallente Federation. In the hopes that I-RED will see the error of its recent actions, we will leave open diplomatic channels. As we are not currently supporting the State Protectorate, I do not foresee a need for open conflict at this time. That being said, The Khanid Provincial Vanguard will meet any act of aggression from any I-RED member on any KP-V member with deadly force. May God light a path through the dark places you currently walk. New Tales of the Dark Amarr
snake driver Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.06 01:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Koronakesh I don't see KPV in that list (which is fair in a sense, since this is about Empire groups), so I'll just assume you're too busy licking Silas' heels to spread your attention to the Imperials now... I guess that's progress, of a sort? KPV (and a good chunk of the other more conservative Amarrians) already reset IRED for allowing MXD into their ranks. This is just a face saving "we didn't want those allies anyways" sort of measure. It's possible that I'm mistaken, but if it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.04.06 01:43:00 - [15] Originally by: snake driver Originally by: Koronakesh I don't see KPV in that list (which is fair in a sense, since this is about Empire groups), so I'll just assume you're too busy licking Silas' heels to spread your attention to the Imperials now... I guess that's progress, of a sort? KPV (and a good chunk of the other more conservative Amarrians) already reset IRED for allowing MXD into their ranks. This is just a face saving "we didn't want those allies anyways" sort of measure. It's possible that I'm mistaken, but if it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. MXD will only be with us for a short while longer, we will not be seeking for positive standings with the Amarrian Bloc even after Andreus has left.
Kahar Dex Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 03:23:00 - [16] Edited by: Kahar Dex on 06/04/2011 03:26:06 To all here present - It will be noted that I am the "representative for the Amarrian Bloc" which Taisho Revenent spoke to. Although, I feel it pertinent to clarify some things. Incase there was any misunderstanding, I in no way, am a representative of the entire Amarrian Bloc. Although I am the official liaison between the CVA and the rest of Greater Amarria, and I have kept in constant contact with all Corporate heads to apprise them of the situation. My discussions with Taisho Revenent were merely to acquire information in order to relay I-RED's stance on recent event's to the Corporate heads of all Greater Amarrian Loyalist Organizations (Including Kingdom and Mandate) and to deliver his messages. CVA Clergy feels most grieved at these recent turn of events. And despite inquiring what could be done in order to maintain positive relations with I-RED, no response was given except the directive to relay Taisho Revenent's message. I sincerely hope, that in the future, relations between I-RED and Amarrian Loyalists can return to a state of normative mutual beneficence. To date, the CVA has taken no action on these matters. However, my report is finalized and will be sent to Lord Hardin by the end of today. My personal wishes, that God would keep Taisho Revenent from evil, and that we could perhaps in the future enjoy amicable relations. In God's Humble Service, Chancellor Dex Overseer, Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2011.04.06 03:36:00 - [17] Originally by: Kahar Dex CVA Clergy feels most grieved at these recent turn of events. And despite inquiring what could be done in order to maintain positive relations with I-RED, no response was given except the directive to relay Taisho Revenent's message. This seems oddly familiar. . .
Kahar Dex Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 03:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Lyn Farel Taisho Revenent, I am quite surprised to see the Knighthood name on your list. Our standings regarding your respectable organization are still blue and were to remain faithfully the same. I will have to pass the word to our leadership for further discussions and reconsiderations, but I am really unhappy to do so. I am maybe equally surprised to see that the CVA is on the list too, but I can't talk for them. Fair profits to you, Farel. Paladin Farel, The CVA is equally dismayed at this unfortunate turn of events. Even while the CVA was investigating an issue as requested by I-RED, they have decided to abruptly sever ties with us even though we as an organization had only taken the action of requesting information on I-RED's stance on the the current situation. I pray that God would give all parties wisdom in these matters. Yours Respectfully, Chancellor Dex
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.04.06 04:02:00 - [19] Pre-emptively, let it be known that Taisho Revenent made this decision entirely in the absence of any request or demand from Mixed Metaphor. Although we fully support his action in breaking ties with Empire, given what we know of his past dealings with them, we were not consulted on this decision before it was made, nor could we, in good faith, have asked him to make it on our behalf. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Vendrin Caldari Stimulus	Posted - 2011.04.06 04:51:00 - [20] Mr. Revenent, I think you will find out as I and the APEX Conglomerate did that the only real choice is independence from all the nationalist blocs. Good luck. ___________________
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2011.04.06 05:09:00 - [21] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Pre-emptively, let it be known that Taisho Revenent made this decision entirely in the absence of any request or demand from Mixed Metaphor. Although we fully support his action in breaking ties with Empire, given what we know of his past dealings with them, we were not consulted on this decision before it was made, nor could we, in good faith, have asked him to make it on our behalf. So, let me get this straight, John Revenent made this decision, unilaterally, with no consultation of the CEO's of the various corporations in his alliance? What the. . .
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.04.06 05:26:00 - [22] Originally by: Julianus Soter So, let me get this straight, John Revenent made this decision, unilaterally, with no consultation of the CEO's of the various corporations in his alliance? No. Originally by: Julianus Soter As an afterthought, wouldn't that mean Revenent was lying that the 'board of directors' had made the decision? Would they not consist of the constituent CEO's of the alliance, including Andreus Ixiris? MXD is a temporary attachT to I-RED - we joined to facilitate the provision of assistance with one specific issue (the W-BR war) after which we will depart again unless circumstances change. I neither desired nor requested a seat on the Directorate. I was not given a seat, and that suits me perfectly, although I'm sure if I asked I could. Given that I am not a member of the Directorate, I cannot speak for whether or not the Directorate was consulted regarding this choice, but if he says he did, I believe him. Do you have any more invalid inferences to draw from my words? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Diana Kim Caldari	Posted - 2011.04.06 06:31:00 - [23] I am not surprised with this turn of events. Dear I-RED members, your gallente masters should be very happy now. Please continue your usual frog-kissing gallente-hugging procedures and maybe Roden will assign some medals to you. Despite that, we already demonstrated you, that even gallente space can't save you from Caldari wrath. Punishment for treason is DEATH. D.Kim, Colonel --- We live and die for the State
Kahar Dex Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 07:20:00 - [24] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Although we fully support his action in breaking ties with Empire. I think we all know this already. I find your political subterfuge to be rather skillfully played. Considering how at one time you yourself had severed ties with IRED, but then being a creature of convenience like yourself changed sides on a whim if it meant you had a chance at shedding Caldari blood. Why is it that when Gallente sympathizers raise a fuss of who I-RED associates with, nothing happens... and yet when we Amarrians feel justifiably slighted, I-RED goes so far as to break ties with us? Taisho Revenent, I do not know what other slights and pressures I-RED has received from other Amarrian organizations, but I wonder, if reasonably, you can understand why we are thoroughly taken aback.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:03:00 - [25] Originally by: Kahar Dex I think we all know this already. I find your political subterfuge to be rather skillfully played. Considering how at one time you yourself had severed ties with IRED, but then being a creature of convenience like yourself changed sides on a whim if it meant you had a chance at shedding Caldari blood. Ah yes, the deal with Vanguard Imperium. Various members of I-RED told me some very... interesting particulars about how that deal went down - and you may noticed that when it was established to have been "over", we re-established diplomatic channels very quickly. Needless to say, these particulars depicted a sordid example of Imperial duplicity. Originally by: Kahar Dex feel justifiably slighted Ah yes, Imperials generally tend to feel slighted when uncomfortable truths are bandied about. Originally by: Kahar Dex Taisho Revenent, I do not know what other slights and pressures I-RED has received from other Amarrian organizations, but I wonder, if reasonably, you can understand why we are thoroughly taken aback. Yes, you Imperials aren't used to people calling you out on your bull****, are you? Kind of an unpleasant shock to the system, I imagine. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Vaari Amarr Imperial Pharmacy	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:04:00 - [26] Edited by: Vaari on 06/04/2011 08:05:37 You have aided Amarr Empire militarily and economically? That is ridiculous. I just checked my corporation standing towards your alliance, and it has been -10 for very long time. That means you have been enemies of the loyalty block(s) for very long time. This beginning. This birth of life. This dawn of greatness. I can not fail, for I have the Emperor to lead me and destiny to follow. undefined
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.04.06 08:14:00 - [27] Originally by: Vaari You have aided Amarr Empire militarily and economically? That is ridiculous. I just checked my corporation standing towards your alliance, and it has been -10 for very long time. That means you have been enemies of the loyalty block(s) for very long time. Yeah, but your corporation's standings are hardly a barometer of what anyone in the Empire thinks. You're a deluded old man that not even other members of the Empire actually listen to. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Kahar Dex Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:09:00 - [28] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Ah yes, Imperials generally tend to feel slighted when uncomfortable truths are bandied about. Slighted is an understatement. When you commit murder, attack property meant to improve the lives of uneducated homeless, and call our Empress an Abomination, I'd dare say that I-RED and anyone else for that matter should in no way be surprised at our displeasure of them conducting business with your sort Ixiris. Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Yes, you Imperials aren't used to people calling you out on your bull****, are you? Kind of an unpleasant shock to the system, I imagine. You have an amazing capacity for self-deception and evading other people's arguments while nimbly resorting to ad-hominen attacks. If you continue resorting to such tactics and profanity, it won't be long before people begin to distance themselves from you Ixiris and consider you more of a liability than asset.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.04.06 09:18:00 - [29] Originally by: Kahar Dex Slighted is an understatement. When you commit murder, attack property meant to improve the lives of uneducated homeless, and call our Empress an Abomination, I'd dare say that I-RED and anyone else for that matter should in no way be surprised at our displeasure of them conducting business with your sort Ixiris. They all deserved it. It's not my fault that wholy-deserved justice takes a form uncomfortable to your moral bankruptcy. Originally by: Kahar Dex You have an amazing capacity for self-deception No sir, I would have to award that accolade to a culture that enslaves entire races and then murders them in the name of an entity they know full well is fictional and yet still has the gall to declare themselves moral human beings, when they are neither. Originally by: Kahar Dex If you continue resorting to such tactics and profanity, it won't be long before people begin to distance themselves from you Ixiris and consider you more of a liability than asset. People have been saying that for six years now and it hasn't happened with anyone I care about yet. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Dex Kivuli Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:55:00 - [30] Revenent-suuolo, Excellent move! I think an important point here is that standings have been cleared; you haven't set them to red. Often the State's relationship with the Amarrians concerns me. They do not consider us equals: they consider us a tool. I fear that they - in many ways - present a far greater threat to the Caldari way of life than even the Gallente. I think it best if Caldari capsuleers keep to ourselves. Business is business, and I encourage trade with all. But cementing relationships that threaten to undermine our cultural identity is a bad move.

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