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Ji Sama
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Posted - 2012.09.01 07:56:00 -
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Greetings MD and fellow Capsuleers.
I am glad to be back, though I wish it would be under better circumstances. Truth be told, I have a bad taste in my mouth, and I know I have let some of you down. For that I apologize.
Now to the part, I think most of you are wanting information about:
I have now taken a snapshot of the TMPI portfolio. Anyone on this portfolio have the right to get their shares bought back.
Any investor with less than 1000 shares should contact me immediately. DO NOT SEND SHARES YET (This is simply because I do not want to lose oversight - if possible a "direct" transfer is preferred)
Any investor with more than 1001 shares will have to arm themselves with a little patience, you will get your shares bought back, but it might take a month or two to get all the assets sold, as well as generated the profit, to pay back what is owed.
Share buyback price is raised to 300% i.e. 3M ISK per share.
Ji Sama Former CEO of TMPI
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Ji Sama
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Posted - 2012.09.01 09:21:00 -
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Relevant threads.
TMPI IPO Announcement
TMPI Update Thread |

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
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Posted - 2012.09.01 11:07:00 -
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Welcome back! |

Ji Sama
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Posted - 2012.09.01 11:08:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Welcome back!
Thank you champ :) |

Magnu Stormhawk
The Gentlemen's Club of EVE
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Posted - 2012.09.03 07:31:00 -
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This thread needs more thrusting.
Welcome back :) |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2012.09.03 08:35:00 -
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Welcome back! Actually I was surprised seeing some weeks ago a character called "Ji Sama" running around in Minnie space, thought it was a new character owner. But no, a convo proved it's still the good ole buddy! Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Ji Sama
5
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Posted - 2012.09.03 11:36:00 -
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Thank you Magnu and VV :) Feels really good to be welcomed back. o/
Also had positive investor feedback so far. Only thing is that about half the investors don't seem to play anymore, but alas, this is an open offer, and will stand untill endtimes. :) |

Liberty Eternal
The Scope Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.09.03 19:11:00 -
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Ji Sama wrote:Thank you Magnu and VV :) Feels really good to be welcomed back. o/
Also had positive investor feedback so far. Only thing is that about half the investors don't seem to play anymore, but alas, this is an open offer, and will stand untill endtimes. :)
Welcome back Ji smuga! No worries, you can always donate any unfilled iskies to charity  |

Ji Sama
6
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Posted - 2012.09.03 19:45:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:Ji Sama wrote:Thank you Magnu and VV :) Feels really good to be welcomed back. o/
Also had positive investor feedback so far. Only thing is that about half the investors don't seem to play anymore, but alas, this is an open offer, and will stand untill endtimes. :) Welcome back Ji smuga! No worries, you can always donate any unfilled iskies to charity 
Thats a good idea. What is there to donate to? VV has some charity running, is the Audit Fund still open? Also do CCP still run this plex for charity thing?
Nice to see Liberty :) o/
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
340
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Posted - 2012.09.03 20:21:00 -
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The Audit Fund was shut down due to lack of demand, RAW reinstated it for some time using his own funds and then (iirc) transferred the money to VV (only remaining auditor) when he want inactive. I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |

Bath Sheeba
Another Success Story
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Posted - 2012.09.03 21:51:00 -
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Yaaaaay Ji Sama!
I am looking forward to getting my monies back...
I was afraid you had dropped eve altogether.
From all of us at ASSCO, welcome back! |

Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
7
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Posted - 2012.09.04 06:25:00 -
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Got it thanks for the update VV :)
Hey Bath, thanks for the warm welcome. If you have below 1001 share, you can contact me right now and get your shares bought back! |

Bath Sheeba
Another Success Story
57
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:05:00 -
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Shares transferred and iskies received, TMPI made good on it's debt!
Thanks Ji! |

Historical Research Advocate
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.05 00:57:00 -
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More drama please. |

Commander Godsmack
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.09.05 07:51:00 -
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I thought youz dead. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1897
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Posted - 2012.09.05 08:14:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:The Audit Fund was shut down due to lack of demand, RAW reinstated it for some time using his own funds and then (iirc) transferred the money to VV (only remaining auditor) when he want inactive.
(auditing has been pretty dead for the past year or so - RAW and Setrak had a long (unconclusive) debate on the viability of unsecured investments, Setrak eventually resorted to shutting down any uncollateralized offerings by meany of trolling and the MD public mostly went along with the "collateral or gtfo" sentiment - only during the past few months have people started asking for audits again)
I think I gave RAW's ISK back. But I had Jake Andarious sending me 1B for the audit "fund", but ATM that's sitting unused and if he still plays I'd like to give that billion back. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
7
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Posted - 2012.09.05 08:25:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:The Audit Fund was shut down due to lack of demand, RAW reinstated it for some time using his own funds and then (iirc) transferred the money to VV (only remaining auditor) when he want inactive.
(auditing has been pretty dead for the past year or so - RAW and Setrak had a long (unconclusive) debate on the viability of unsecured investments, Setrak eventually resorted to shutting down any uncollateralized offerings by meany of trolling and the MD public mostly went along with the "collateral or gtfo" sentiment - only during the past few months have people started asking for audits again) I think I gave RAW's ISK back. But I had Jake Andarious sending me 1B for the audit "fund", but ATM that's sitting unused and if he still plays I'd like to give that billion back.
Doesn't matter from my part, I declared all owed to TMPI null and void, before I emo rage quitted. |

Historical Research Advocate
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:29:00 -
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Ji Sama wrote:Doesn't matter from my part, I declared all owed to TMPI null and void, before I emo rage quitted. You meant, before you emo rage quit playing Ji Sama. Your other characters have been active.
are any of the people you owe money still playing? |

Historical Research Advocate
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.09.06 14:08:00 -
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lol. 48hrs in MD and almost no responses. Looks like you got away clean Ji. You just waited them out.
this thread is the most clear indicator i've ever seen that MD is officially dead. |

Brock Nelson
607
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Posted - 2012.09.07 02:43:00 -
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Even during TMPI's prime, Ji's book was a cluster **** and this thread is a cluster ****. Just another MD drama-rama Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
7
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Posted - 2012.09.07 06:11:00 -
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Brock Nelson wrote:Even during TMPI's prime, Ji's book was a cluster **** and this thread is a cluster ****. Just another MD drama-rama
Hi there Brock, thank you for sticking your head in. Please keep personal drama/vendetta out of this thread.
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Mme Pinkerton
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Posted - 2012.09.07 07:22:00 -
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Historical Research Advocate wrote:lol. 48hrs in MD and almost no responses. Looks like you got away clean Ji. You just waited them out.
this thread is the most clear indicator i've ever seen that MD is officially dead. I can look into your allegations when I have some spare time during the next few days if you want to.
However, I don't really see the point.
"OMG, a character left TMPI (in spring 2012!) just two days before Rhivre told scc-lounge that Caleb had recently met with Ji for cake" how does such knowledge help Ji's investors that are waiting for repayment? An IPO guide (David H'Levi) | Towards a Positive Argument For Investing (RAW23) | Freighter Operations 101 (Kazuo Ishiguro) | Dominion market analysis (Akita T)
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Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
7
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Posted - 2012.09.07 07:24:00 -
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Mme Pinkerton wrote:Historical Research Advocate wrote:lol. 48hrs in MD and almost no responses. Looks like you got away clean Ji. You just waited them out.
this thread is the most clear indicator i've ever seen that MD is officially dead. I can look into your allegations when I have some spare time during the next few days if you want to. However, I don't really see the point. "OMG, a character left TMPI (in spring 2012!) just two days before Rhivre told scc-lounge that Caleb had recently met with Ji for cake"how does such knowledge help Ji's investors that are waiting for repayment (or anyone else in MD for that matter)?
Meeting someone for cake IRL is not the same as playing eve...
I can confirm that it was not me that left with a toon, in spring 2012. I have disclosed all my alts. Also as MME says, it is irrelevant to the current situation. |

shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2012.09.07 09:41:00 -
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how`s everyone saying "welcome back" when the OP had his posting premiere in this thread? also nice rep-circle-************
sounds legit
EDIT: whats wrong with saying the word that explains when you touch yourself? its not even an insult, or anything discriminatory |

Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
7
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Posted - 2012.09.07 09:47:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:how`s everyone saying "welcome back" when the OP had his posting premiere in this thread? also nice rep-circle-************ sounds legit  EDIT: whats wrong with saying the word that explains when you touch yourself? its not even an insult, or anything discriminatory
Hello there, my posting history is a little older, you can see in the 2nd post in this thread, there is a couple of links.
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shar'ra matcevsovski
Hedion University Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2012.09.07 09:53:00 -
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Ji Sama wrote:shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:how`s everyone saying "welcome back" when the OP had his posting premiere in this thread? also nice rep-circle-************ sounds legit  EDIT: whats wrong with saying the word that explains when you touch yourself? its not even an insult, or anything discriminatory Hello there, my posting history is a little older, you can see in the 2nd post in this thread, there is a couple of links.
welcome back then |

Mme Pinkerton
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Posted - 2012.09.07 10:35:00 -
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shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:how`s everyone saying "welcome back" when the OP had his posting premiere in this thread? also nice rep-circle-************
http://www.eve-search.com/stats/Ji%20Sama
Ji Sama gained some early notoriety with his 1000 billion ISK offering but instead of being discouraged by the less than stellar response he decided to learn form his mistakes and launched Tash-Murkon Prime Industries half a year later.
After falling victim to Bad Bobby's Titans 4 U scheme and suffering from another default Ji Sama decided to close down TMPI but vanished from sight before completing the share buyback. The investors' response to this default was unusually mild (and late).
Ji Sama is a real-life acquaintance of Caleb Ayrania (and Rhivre is Caleb's girlfriend) and it is knownGäó that all scc-lounge visitors are actually Ji Sama alts. There is a character (Childeric III) the control over which has not always been clear and may have been shared between Ji and Caleb at some times (I remember looking into this issue in 2009 and at the time I was unconvinced that Ji really had controlled that character throughout).
Many of Ji Sama's alts listed in his bond threads have been biomassed, including the "Antiquarian" character (which is easily confused with a prolific forum poster known as "The Antiquarian").
If you like conspiracy theories the facebook page linked in the TMPI thread will lead you to some hilarious posts (on ATS and similar sites) by a much younger (but recognizable) Ji Sama.
That's pretty much all there is to know.
If Ji Sama has hidden alts that he played on during his absence I would expect them to be hidden somewhere in plain sight. An IPO guide (David H'Levi) | Towards a Positive Argument For Investing (RAW23) | Freighter Operations 101 (Kazuo Ishiguro) | Dominion market analysis (Akita T)
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Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
7
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Posted - 2012.09.07 12:02:00 -
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The main alts are still there.
Abdul Razzaq (active) Avendale (active) Avendale Amarrious (active) Chrotrud (active) Main Account (inactive) TGAOTU (active) TMP Curator (inactive) TMP Industries (inactive) TMP Paladin (active)
I am in the process of getting them all moved to 4-5 accounts.
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Historical Research Advocate
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.09.07 14:27:00 -
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Ji Sama wrote:The main alts are still there.
Abdul Razzaq (active) Avendale (active) Avendale Amarrious (active) Chrotrud (active) Main Account (inactive) TGAOTU (active) TMP Curator (inactive) TMP Industries (inactive) TMP Paladin (active)
I am in the process of getting them all moved to 4-5 accounts.
yes. it is completely impossible for you to have other alts. it is equally impossible that anyone, anywhere could or would ever lie about it. its not like eve is a game based on deception.
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Mme Pinkerton
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Posted - 2012.09.07 14:32:00 -
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Ji Sama wrote:The main alts are still there. mea culpa, some of them are not searchable via evewho which made me think hat they, too, had been biomassed (as that is how I had discovered this issue before)
turns out I was wrong and should have checked eve gate first An IPO guide (David H'Levi) | Towards a Positive Argument For Investing (RAW23) | Freighter Operations 101 (Kazuo Ishiguro) | Dominion market analysis (Akita T)
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Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
7
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Posted - 2012.09.07 17:38:00 -
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Mme Pinkerton wrote:Ji Sama wrote:The main alts are still there. mea culpa, some of them are not searchable via evewho which made me think hat they, too, had been biomassed (as that is how I had discovered this issue before) turns out I was wrong and should have checked eve gate first
No Problem at all :)
If you want I can give you a full API, if that helps you with your investigation :) |

Historical Research Advocate
State War Academy Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.09.08 15:44:00 -
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Mme Pinkerton wrote:shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:how`s everyone saying "welcome back" when the OP had his posting premiere in this thread? also nice rep-circle-************
http://www.eve-search.com/stats/Ji%20SamaJi Sama gained some early notoriety with his 1000 billion ISK offering but instead of being discouraged by the less than stellar response he decided to learn form his mistakes and launched Tash-Murkon Prime Industries half a year later. After falling victim to Bad Bobby's Titans 4 U scheme and suffering from another default Ji Sama decided to close down TMPI but vanished from sight before completing the share buyback. The investors' response to this default was unusually mild (and late). Ji Sama is a real-life acquaintance of Caleb Ayrania (and Rhivre is Caleb's girlfriend) and it is knownGäó that all scc-lounge visitors are actually Ji Sama alts. There is a character ( Childeric III) the control over which has not always been clear and may have been shared between Ji and Caleb at some times (I remember looking into this issue in 2009 and at the time I was unconvinced that Ji really had controlled that character throughout). Many of Ji Sama's alts listed in his bond threads have been biomassed, including the "Antiquarian" character (which is easily confused with a prolific forum poster known as "The Antiquarian"). If you like conspiracy theories the facebook page linked in the TMPI thread will lead you to some hilarious posts (on ATS and similar sites) by a much younger (but recognizable) Ji Sama. That's pretty much all there is to know. If Ji Sama has hidden alts that he played on during his absence I would expect them to be hidden somewhere in plain sight. None of this was relevant or proves anything in particular.
Nobody cares Ji. They're all gone. Anytime you want to play another game of musical chair bonds so that you can be left holding the bag again, please let us know. |

Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
7
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Posted - 2012.09.09 14:36:00 -
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Update: Currently around 4B have been paid back to investors. Investors totaling almost 20K shares have been contacted, and have responded. The plan is to allow investors with below 3001 shares to be allowed buyback from Monday the 1st of October. Thank you for your patience and positive feedback.
Currently there is no plan on what to do with the excess ISK, or what deadline should be set, but I am thinking at least 3-6 months, before donating the ISK to some charity. |

Cheque Please
Hot Like Mexico
2
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Posted - 2012.09.09 18:04:00 -
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Better late than never, right?
Welcome back
Mme Pinkerton wrote:
and it is knownGäó that all scc-lounge visitors are actually Ji Sama alts.
If Ji Sama has hidden alts that he played on during his absence I would expect them to be hidden somewhere in plain sight.
Oops, in that case, I guess I'm talking to myself.  |

Mme Pinkerton
88
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Posted - 2012.09.09 18:20:00 -
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Historical Research Advocate wrote:None of this was relevant or proves anything in particular. None of this was addressing you.
As I said I am still willing to devote a few hours to look into whatever claims about ji Sama you might make but instead of providing information that might be of use in such an investigation you chose to biomass your character.
I don't understand why you would not be interested in giving credence to your claims but I acknowledge that this doesn't imply they are wrong (maybe the list of Ji Sama's secret alts is just too large to fit into the margin... ).
My own motivation for interfering in this thread are as follows (no particular order):
1. I have talked to Ji Sama a few times and found him to be a very likable person. To my knowledge I did never conduct any business with Ji Sama and did not invest or advise other people to invest in any of his offerings.
2. The basic claim that (paraphrased) "Ji Sama played on alts while he was supposedly absent" is in my opinion not especially outlandish. I am pretty sure I am not the only person in the history of MD who has done something of that sort 
3. Yet I don't see why this claim warrants investigation. Whether you didn't pay your debt on time because you played on alts, because you played some other game or because you were busy doing real-life things doesn't change the fact that you didn't pay your debt on time. When someone didn't find any opportunity to pay his debts over one-and-a-half years the issue preventing him from doing so is almost certainly a lack of motivation rather than any physical/RL constraints.
4. I believe that debts should be honored regardless of whether the creditor is still actively playing the game or not. The trend set by AATP, EBANK, et al is worrisome and the interests of inactive players may be underrepresented due to obvious reasons.
5. It is natural that the MD community is happy about every "lost" face that shows up again and brings back memories of old times and hope for the future. It is also understandable that investors are happy about any ISK that they had already believed lost but might still regain and tend to be very lenient on the debtor as a consequence. I understand concerns that MD does too easily forgive defaults/delays of this sort - Kouryusei's return and disappearance being the most recent example. However, I don't think this thread is the right place to voice such concerns - at this point nobody knows if Ji Sama plans on leveraging his "MD reputation" ever again and there is nothing wrong with showing up to pay old debts.
6. Ji Sama's flirt with discordianism requires me to take a completely agnostic approach towards the truth or falsehood of any statements of his.
I won't have access to the game client until September 17th but I will see what I can do digging around.
(edit: conspiracies everywhere) An IPO guide (David H'Levi) | Towards a Positive Argument For Investing (RAW23) | Freighter Operations 101 (Kazuo Ishiguro) | Dominion market analysis (Akita T)
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Doktor Malinowka
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.09 19:10:00 -
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no offence, but this sounds like a not very good scam tbh...good luck either way |

GOTMYEYEONYOU
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:15:00 -
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Mme Pinkerton wrote:6. Ji Sama's flirt with discordianism requires me to take a completely agnostic approach towards the truth or falsehood of any statements of his. I fell out of my chair laughing when I saw the words "...flirt with discordianism..."
No one gives a flying ****. There's nothing to rehabilitate. |

Mme Pinkerton
89
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Posted - 2012.09.10 07:53:00 -
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GOTMYEYEONYOU wrote:No one gives a flying ****. There's nothing to rehabilitate. My plan had obviously been to restore Ji Sama's reputation from the damage it had taken from Historical Research Advocate's damning claims by proving that Ji doesn't have any secret alts.
Now that you have let me know that any such endeavour would be fruitless, that nobody cares and that my alt's Ji Sama's reputation is already damaged beyond repair I can safely leave the teapot at home and stop posting in this thread. An IPO guide (David H'Levi) | Towards a Positive Argument For Investing (RAW23) | Freighter Operations 101 (Kazuo Ishiguro) | Dominion market analysis (Akita T)
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Mme Pinkerton
90
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:09:00 -
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in other words [because sarcasm is hard and trolls are annoying] - there is no way any research of mine could have resulted in a result that is beneficial to Ji Sama.
The outcome would either have been "I haven't found any secret alts" which is exactly the point we are at right now or "I have found a character that I believe to be a Ji Sama alt for reasons x & y and which has been demonstrably active between spring 2011 and summer 2012". "Ji Sama is cleared of all accusations" could not have been a possible outcome as demonstrating the absence of a needle within a haystack is not feasible.
For the same reason Ji Sama has no sensible way to react to these allegations and the burden of proof lies with whomever that makes such accusations (-> Russel's Teapot).
However, I have no reason to waste my time if even those who support the claims against Ji Sama show no interest whatsoever in seeing them substantiated and am happy to get out of this thread. Bye. An IPO guide (David H'Levi) | Towards a Positive Argument For Investing (RAW23) | Freighter Operations 101 (Kazuo Ishiguro) | Dominion market analysis (Akita T)
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Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
7
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:21:00 -
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Thank you for contributing to this thread MME.
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.09.10 23:15:00 -
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Hi,
Thread cleaned up.
If you have comments to make, please do so in a constructive fashion.
Thanks and fly safe! ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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GOTMYEYEONYOU
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:24:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Hi,
Thread cleaned up.
If you have comments to make, please do so in a constructive fashion.
Thanks and fly safe! WTF is going on here? Why on earth would you delete my comments? Ji is clearly carrying on a sock puppet convo but you're "cleaning up"? |

Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
9
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Posted - 2012.09.14 03:01:00 -
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Back to the top....
It has become increasingly difficult to get in contact with some of the smaller investors, if anyone knows some of them, please give them a heads up. If this fails, I will open up the buyback for shareholders with less than 3001 shares, starting Monday 24th september.
Currently I have around 20B ISK in liquids, and I am hesitant to use them on the market, should they be needed for a buyout. Assets are valued at 30B+ atm, so I will have to use some of it for trading, if I am to honor the 300% buyback.
So in short it still means i'm around 70B short :)
Again a thank you to all the investors I did manage to complete they buyback with. You support means a lot. |

KNOTENUFLUV
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.14 04:19:00 -
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Ji Sama wrote:Back to the top....
It has become increasingly difficult to get in contact with some of the smaller investors, if anyone knows some of them, please give them a heads up. If this fails, I will open up the buyback for shareholders with less than 3001 shares, starting Monday 24th september.
Currently I have around 20B ISK in liquids, and I am hesitant to use them on the market, should they be needed for a buyout. Assets are valued at 30B+ atm, so I will have to use some of it for trading, if I am to honor the 300% buyback.
So in short it still means i'm around 70B short :)
Again a thank you to all the investors I did manage to complete they buyback with. You support means a lot. This has been the most unusual thread I've seen on the forums in quite some time. I went here to see the original conversation. In particular, the series of responses starting at #35. Ji Sama comes back out of nowhere to "repay" his debt incurred as part of a walkaway scam and to people he is surely aware are no longer in game. Very odd. |

Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
9
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Posted - 2012.09.14 04:46:00 -
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Hello Historical Research Advocate / GOTMYEYEONYOU / KNOTENUFLUV
You have made your point, you are kinda undermining it though, when you continue to create alts, and use them to harass me in this thread.
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Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
6
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Posted - 2012.09.15 05:19:00 -
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Holy Cow!
A Ji Sama sighting!
I am just recently back myself, not that anyone cares. Except maybe Brock. He cares.
Everyone told me you were all sad about T4U, (I was sad too, but then it got funny), and quit forever.
That's cool of you to come back and offer buybacks, especially after so long. Brock, for the 1000th time, Im not really Dutch! |

flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
353
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Posted - 2012.09.15 08:52:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Setrak eventually resorted to shutting down any uncollateralized offerings by meany of trolling and the MD public mostly went along with the "collateral or gtfo" sentiment - only during the past few months have people started asking for audits again)
Wrong , setrak's impact was small in my opinion.
He has been screaming the same crap for years ever since he got scammed himself- hell even bored of that crap himself to the point where he biomassed chars a while back -without result and now all of a sudden it worked ?We allways had people like that , names like yougotripped or riethe come to mind.
What did change was that people who invested big amounts in uncollateralised loans like Raw23 and myself for example have stopped investments or eve as a whole.With that the usuall jump on the bandwagon collapsed and people seem to be afraid to think about potential risks for themselves.Also with the low rate of people doing audits it became a pain in the ass for potential loaners to get an audit done in a decent time frame.I think VV was the only one left at one point.
Investments have become utterly boring and leaves the lill man with no colleteral only one option to grind for it himself.Wich ain't bad btw as i also allways did it myself and it is more satisfying at times.
BUT this is a o// welcome back ji thread so let's finish it with a
o// welcome back ji |

Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company
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Thank you for the welcome :)
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